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save the biscuit

The approach is wrong

violence is not the answer
I'm history protest was a key factor for discussion.

Violence causing harm and damage often led to consequences that differ than desired goals.

When we founded Indymedia in 1998 and 1999. Our goal was to bring a voice to offer discussion in hope of change.. before, during and after the WTO in Seattle.

The one thing we realized from both sides was discussion was important, violence was counter productive.

I have since seen many brothers and sisters dedicated to this cause from our orgin die.

I feel sad, that many of the new movement, feel the unwillingness to discuss but choose a violent path ..

Why I agree you send up against power. I also believe we are better examples by not becoming them. But remaining us.


Violence is now sometimes allowed and condoned 09.Aug.2020 14:20


There's an emerging tolerance in our new leaders that was not present in past generations. Violent protest is not new and will continue if allowed. None of the Portland City Council members will denounce violent protest - only if the violence is inflicted by police.

Discussion is considered hate speech by many - you must speak and follow orthodoxy.

When your argument is weak you're left with nothing but to silence and harm those with you whom disagree.

Facts and information which do not contribute to the narrative-du-jour need to eliminated and or adjusted.

Their tired rhetoric now leads many to believe, "They doth protest too much!"

Thanks, Troy 19.Aug.2020 10:09

Jody Paulson

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." - MLK
"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." - Einstein

"approach is wrong", because none of it addresses the *ACTUAL PROBLEM* 21.Aug.2020 13:16


Financialization is only about making money from money 21.Aug.2020 04:42
newswire article commentary global 23.Apr.2020 05:36 economic justice

Financialization Is Only About Making Money From Money, Not The Real Economy Or Capitalism

Here are some articles written in the past 2 or 3 years about Financialization, which has been growing since the 1970s and has been endemic in the global economy since 2000.

When combined with fiat currency issued by private central banks (as currently seen with the Federal Reserve's QE-infinity bailouts, payouts etc.) it is a recipe for economic disaster and further weakens the overall Real Economy i.e. actual goods and services transacted along with price discovery function and valuation. It is so pervasive that our global economy can be no longer be considered a "free market" or "capitalism".

The financialization of banking, and of business in general, has hampered real growth and innovation while exacerbating inequality. It has disconnected actual product from value, and created vast bubbles in markets such as housing, insurance and credit. Buybacks by corporations of their own stocks have contributed to rigging of capital markets. Today the finance sector makes up only 7% of the economy and creates a mere 4% of all jobs, while generating 40% of corporate profits.