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History & Strategy of German Antifascism

Saturday, September 8, 2018 from 7-9pm
Cider Riot! 807 NE Couch St Portland, Oregon 97232
German antifascist activists, with over 10 years experience, present the major strategies, struggles, and theories of the „Antifaschistische Aktion" from 1932 to the present.
History & Strategy of German Antifascism
The latest rise of fascist movements and parties has once again made it clear: organized antifascist resistance is necessary. In order to successfully intervene and stop fascism from spreading, it is useful to take a look at the different experiences built from movements in other countries. Particularly the history of the Antifa movement in Germany has to offer a lot of different approaches and experiences.

The speakers, who are organized in the "ums Ganze!" Bündnis and have been part of antifascist initiatives and organizations for over 10 years, present the major strategies, struggles, and theories of the „Antifaschistische Aktion" from 1932 to the present. Afterwards, we hope to have a discussion about the lessons for the movement today, going forwards in 2018 and share our experiences as activists.
Hosted by: Rose City Antifa, African & Native Solidarity PDX, & Pacific NW Antifascist Workers Collective

homepage: homepage: http://https://rosecityantifa.org/

"theories from 1932 to the present" — Good luck 24.Aug.2018 16:02

comparing Germany (or Italy), then to U.S.A., now.

We've seen this movie before; if you adhere dogmatically to the 'genius' of Alexander Reid Ross and his intellectual ilk then you've got a lot to learn about the 21st century corporate capitalist plutocracy (Antifa today having seemingly jettisoned its post-1990s Battle In Seattle knowledge base) :

Google this... 01.Sep.2018 15:24



Portland indymedia holocaust denial

Be ready to have your mind blown

^ 04.Sep.2018 05:07


so [ a bunch of people in Portland ] protested David Irving the last half dozen times he came here?

who cares and neo-Nazis (in America) are nothing like the Europe Nazi political entity 1933-1945

good luck with your delusional navel gazing cider riot joke shop

someone's butthurt 04.Sep.2018 12:52


too close to home?

"too close to home?" 04.Sep.2018 14:03


that one set of irrelevant cranks (Antifa) enjoys chasing another set of irrelevant cranks (neo-Nazis / the likes of Irving) around?

No, no I'm not "butthurt"

Interesting results 04.Sep.2018 17:44


Not sure I'd characterize either party as "irrelevant" considering the failure to root out local Nazis and Nazi sympathizers resulted in the deaths of Taliesin Myrddin Namkai Meche and Ricky John Best.

Some of the results:

portland imc - 2018.06.29 - Let's get this guy fired ... - Portland Indymedia

Jun 29, 2018 -  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2018/06/436250.shtml ... talk by notorious Holocaust ‐ denier David Irving when Irving passed through ...
7 pm tonighDavid Irving holocaust revisionist ... - Portland Indymedia

Dec 14, 2003 - Deborah Lipstadt, the academic who won a libel victory after describing the right-wing historian David Irving as a Holocaust denier, this month ...
Rose City Antifa: Oregon Neo-Nazi Leader Hides ... - Portland Indymedia

Jul 30, 2010 - The Portland anti-racist group Rose City Antifa has discovered that a ... Holocaust denial seems to be a special interest of Corinna Burt's.
David Irving, Holocaust Denier, Scheduled to Speak in Portland on ...


Mar 30, 2011 - For more information on David Irving, please refer to our 2009 Portland Indymedia release here , and South Side Chicago ARA's release below ...

Anti-Fascist Front - Willamette Week

Sep 22, 2009 - The letter included a calling card for Rose City Antifa, a Portland anti-racist group ... posts articles about its activities on the Portland Indymedia website. .... about Jewish power and his denial of the Nazi genocide against the ...
Cyprus IndyMedia computers seized illegally by Police; members ...


Aug 6, 2015 - o- An article was published on the Cyprus IndyMedia website that made ... a penniless hippy medic, but the Portland Indymedia collective called him ... on a private list with a Holocaust Denier Tim Titrud and his lawyer buddy ...
Portland, Oregon: Rose City Antifa Statement on Anti-Semites and ...


Jun 25, 2009 - The event was sponsored by the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance, and was initially scheduled to take place at the ... separatist" who is involved with Holocaust-denial circles, gave a ...  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2009/06/3.
Oregon Commentator » Blog Archive » The Pacifica Forum Road Show

Jun 27, 2009 - From Portland Indymedia: ... separatist" who is involved with Holocaust-denial circles, gave a presentation to a ... (The Portland SHARP cleaned out a neo-nazi infestation in the 90's using, shall we say, aggressive tactics.).
Accusations, boycott from anti-fascist group puts strain ... - Bike Portland


Oct 2, 2012 - ... (anonymously) posting accusations against Calvert on Indymedia, on the local Shift bike group email list, and in comments here in BikePortland. ...... Since we are talking about white supremacists, Holocaust deniers, and ...

9/11 Truth Alliance Dramatica : Portland: Holohoax Titrud and Tim ...

Sep 9, 2012 -  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/09/417943.shtml?discuss ..... holocaust denier organizes picnic at sellwood park, invites racist convicted ...

And someone screwed up the ANTIFA link 04.Sep.2018 17:53


text:  http://https://rosecityantifa.org/

Link:  http://https//rosecityantifa.org/

Now the first one makes sense, someone copypasta-ed wrong.
The second looks like someone deliberately broke the link.

Lets just put the real one right here:


and this too:



I'd characterize 'each party' as "irrelevant" considering the failure of 04.Sep.2018 21:30

Anyone In Portland Or the U.S.

to give a flying **** about anything at all posted ^^^^ above.


Nazis on the March in Germany 04.Sep.2018 21:51

by Victor Grossman

September 3, 2018


Ten eventful days in Germany set alarm signals clanging louder and louder - worst of all in the East German state of Saxony -- but in Berlin as well!

In the first episode, in Saxony, the neo-Nazi PEGIDA movement, which has marched in Dresden on many Mondays since 2014, has faded with the growth of the more respectable-looking, more successful but equally racist Alternative for Germany (AfD), which now, with 25% in the polls in Saxony, is second strongest party, with a strong chance of winning next year's state elections and forming or at least sharing the next government. In fact, it is close to edging out the Social Democrats as second strongest party in all of Germany.

On August 16th the two closely-related far-right rivals, PEGIDA and AfD, joined in anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim togetherness for another protest meeting in Dresden, Saxony's capital.

At a PEGIDA rally six weeks earlier, at a time when a ship full of people rescued from drowning in the Mediterranean was desperately seeking a port, the crowd had chanted "Let it sink! Let it sink!" For the August 16th rally a TV channel sent out a team to film these or similar goings-on.

Suddenly an ugly-looking demonstrator with an odd cap in the colors of the German flag ran in front of the camera shouting that they were filming him without his consent, thus breaking the law. The journalists told him to simply walk away if he didn't want to be filmed. Instead, after shouting angrily into the camera, he called the police and insisted that they arraign the "law breakers". The police obliged and held the team virtually captive for 45 minutes to "register their identity" and write up the mutual accusations. This effectively blocked their filming - clearly what the man had intended.

The story, with the angrily shouting face, hit the national media, accompanied by accusations that the police had worked hand in hand with PEGIDA to curb freedom of the press.

What followed was curious: the minister-president of Saxony, a right-wing Christian Democrat (Merkel's party), sided not with the TV crew but with the police - for "properly doing their duty". Under pressure he promised to "further investigate" the case.

Then came the crowning revelation - a discovery that the angry protester was himself an employee of the state police authorities - "not in duty but on vacation". Police and PEGIDA seemed somehow in cahoots!


Two days later it was Berlin's turn. Every year the Nazis, old and new, mark the death in 1987 of Hitler's Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess, who flew a famous solo flight to Scotland on May 10th 1941 in an unsuccessful attempt to make peace with Britain six weeks prior to the Nazi attack on the USSR. Hess committed suicide in 1987 while imprisoned for life in a four-power prison in West Berlin's Spandau district, and while the prison was torn down years ago to prevent its becoming a shrine, the Nazis meet there anyway. Last year they were outnumbered by anti-fascists - 2000 to 800 - and thus kept from carrying out their planned march.

This year they again called for a march. Berlin's city-state minister responsible for law and order, a Social Democrat, stated regretfully that he could do nothing to legally prevent them and OK'd it. So the anti-fascists again organized a protest, with church groups, party groups, unions and others organizing a big counter-rally and, by some, a blockade of the Nazi march route. About 2500 showed up. There were very few Nazis, they could hold no rally and the battle seemed won; church bells knelled in triumph and local political leaders were jubilant.

Then it leaked out that this was the wrong place! The Nazis had evidently agreed with the police to forget Spandau and switch their march through a left-leaning area in East Berlin, with one section known for so-called "autonomous", action-prone young people, whose anti-fascist action often included bottles and stones. Police units, part of the 2300 assembled that day, now marched alongside about 700 Nazis from their starting place (now United Nations Square, in GDR days it had been Lenin Square) along the entire route, protecting them against small, hastily assembled groups of anti-nazis, including a very few bottle or stone-throwers of the masked, "black bloc kind which the mass media love to stress. Some rules for the march had been handed down: no boots, no uniform, no mention of the name Rudolf Hess. Instead, their big banner at the front quoted him in big letters: "I regret nothing"!

In the meantime the main anti-fascist group in Spandau, off in the city's western outskirts, was trying to get back into town to stand up properly to the Nazis. But the police first hindered them from reaching the train station and, when many finally did slip through, the police prevented them - and other passengers - from leaving the train stations nearest the Nazi march and even stopped a train which would have taken them close to the final Nazi rally.

The police could thus boast, by and large, that peace and order had been maintained. The Nazis could boast that they had accomplished what they had planned. As for the city government, a delicate coalition of Social Democrats, Greens and also the LINKE (Left), they had nothing to boast of; indeed, there were no audible statements of any kind.


Peace and order were frighteningly absent the next weekend in Chemnitz (after Leipzig and Dresden the third biggest city in Saxony). A Saturday evening city festival was suddenly ended by a murder; a young man of 35 died of knife wounds after a fight. Two young immigrants were arrested, a Syrian and an Iraqi. The mass news rag BILD quickly spread a story that he was killed while protecting a German woman harassed by the foreigners. The story, a total invention, spread like wildfire in Facebook and other social media; the fact that the victim's father was Cuban and the background of the fatal fight was still a secret was of no importance; the victim was "a German killed by knife-wielding foreigners, asylum-seekers". On Sunday evening a memorial march to the site of his death, with flowers and candles, swiftly turned into a wild chase by 800 fascist types against anyone who looked "foreign", against those calling for calm, against any and all journalists, considered enemies, and against the pitifully small contingent of police trying to separate opposing groups.

By Monday evening the fascists - with supporters from all over Germany - had rallied a mob of about 7000 thugs who basically seized and controlled the city center. The police, although certainly forewarned, had strangely assigned only a puny contingent of 600 cops with two water cannon, which proved almost totally ineffective. The wild attacks of the previous evening were multiplied against journalists but especially against the courageous 1000 to 1500 who held up banners saying "No to Racism and Violence" or "Chemnitz - Free of Nazis" - and were only partially protected by the police. Luckily, except for one man whose nose was broken, only a few were injured - but this was less a result of police "separation" than the steadfastness of the anti-fascists.

Chemnitz has a varied history. An industrial city specializing in heavy machine tools, it leaned strongly to the left before Hitler took over. It was hit heavily by wartime bombing. In 1953, in the days of the East German Democratic Republic, it was renamed Karl Marx Stadt, with the approval of one sector of the population and the silent disapproval of another. After German unification in 1990 76% voted to return to the name Chemnitz. But part of its heritage included a massive bronze bust of Karl Marx, erected in 1971 - 23 feet high and with its granite pedestal 43 feet. Perhaps surprisingly, the Chemnitzers decided to keep this monument, which they fondly nicknamed "nischel", a slang word like "noggin". It became a main attraction of the city, with souvenir replicas even in chocolate. Offers to buy it from West Germany and the USA were rejected. Behind it, in large stone letters, are the Communist Manifesto words "Workers of the world unite" in German, English, French and Russian.

Last Monday the mob surrounded the Marx bust. They did not damage it physically, but films show thugs shouting from the pedestal, with one man raising his arm in the legally forbidden Hitler salute! The slogans, written or shouted, were in a similar vein. The biggest banner said in local dialect, "We wanna be German - and free". Many shouted the "We are the people" slogan used by the anti-GDR crowds in 1989, but now directed against foreigners, Merkel, LINKE, the press, anyone but fascists.

How could this happen? Although unification (or "annexation") was 28 years ago - it will again be celebrated on October 3rd - wages in Saxony are almost a quarter lower than in Germany nationally, although hours average longer. The all-German average jobless rate is 5.1% - but 7.3% in Chemnitz, with a high proportion of hope-destroying "precarious" jobs. Many here are angry - and misled, and there are a variety of racist and fascistic groups, which all joined together!

The fascistic Alternative for Germany, although always disparaged by the other parties, has been given surprisingly generous treatment by most of the media which, although the fascists attack them as pro-immigrant, have actually played up every criminal deed by an immigrant or other "non-German", often for weeks and months, while hardly mentioning or quickly dismissing countless attacks on people of color or wearing head cloths or with other "non-German" characteristics.

Merkel's CDU party, despite its "tsk-tsk" rejections of mob actions, almost always condemns both "left and right extremists" but often stresses the former, who are usually the most active and often the only sector really fighting the Nazi menace. In Saxony, recent years have seen many violent but hardly punished attacks on immigrants and often revealed suspicious connections and collusion between conservative government institutions on many levels and the fascist mob, most alarmingly with the Bureau to Defend the Constitution (Verfassungsschutz), which is much like the FBI. What will happen if in states like Saxony the AfD shares or even heads a state government? Déjà vu 1932?


The fascists marched again Thursday evening, but a big anti-fascist counter-rally is planned for Chemnitz on Saturday, September 1st. Other major protests are planned for Berlin and Hamburg in September and October. A big new attempt to push back this scary onslaught is due to be launched on September 4th; Aufstehen - Stand Up - hops to create not a new party but a movement, uniting people Social Democrats, Greens, the LINKE or any others in a combined effort to win successes for working people: affordable homes and controlled rents, better wages and pensions, taxes on the super-wealthy, stronger unions, and peace in the world. This and the other efforts represent hopes for fighting back. Their success could be crucial in all of Europe, indeed in all the world.

You are obviously wrong 05.Sep.2018 17:01


"I'd characterize 'each party' as "irrelevant" considering the failure of
Anyone In Portland Or the U.S.to give a flying **** about anything at all posted ^^^^ above."

On the contrary, everyone who cares about social justice cares about the circumstances leading to the murder of Taliesin Meche and Ricky Best in Portland, especially Portlanders. Or maybe you'd like to give citations?

Or maybe you mean no one cares about the actions of Antifa in previous years attempting to call attention to these problems? You are aware Rose City Antifa posted this entry, right? Or are you saying Rose City Antifa, African & Native Solidarity PDX, and Pacific NW Antifascist Workers Collective don't give a flying fukk either?

hey "...." : I posted this to the newswire— 06.Sep.2018 13:39


newswire article reposts portland metro 13.Nov.2017 22:01

anti-racism | legacies

13 November 1988: Murder Of Mulugeta Seraw (29 Years Later)
author: _

Mulugeta Seraw (October 21, 1960 - November 13, 1988) was an Ethiopian student who went to the United States to attend college. Seraw was killed in November 1988, at age 28, in Portland, Oregon by three white supremacists. His father and son successfully filed a civil lawsuit against the killers and an affiliated organization, holding them liable for the murder.


Yep, ^*THAT*^ Was Yours-Truly-posted

@LookieHere 07.Sep.2018 18:40


Not sure what you're getting at.

Now you're saying you DO give a "flying fukk" about the work of Rose City Antifa, et al to exposed racists, holocaust deniers and anti semite fronts in the Portland area?


I guess that's good to know. So why were you objecting about it in several comments?

Germans know fascism when they see it 07.Sep.2018 23:25

Reuters (2003)

33% of Germans under 30 think US did 9-11
68% think media lied about what happened in the attacks

Poll shows many Germans see U.S. behind Sept 11

BERLIN, July 23, 2003

Almost one in three Germans below the age of 30 believes the U.S. government may have sponsored the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington, according to a poll published on Wednesday.

And about 20 percent of Germans in all age groups hold this view, a survey of 1,000 people conducted for the weekly Die Zeit said.

It also said 68 percent of all Germans felt the media had not reported the full truth behind the attacks, in which some 3,000 people were killed when hijacked planes were crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

After the September 11 attacks, there was an outpouring of sympathy from Germans for the United States. Despite misgivings, Germany joined a military campaign against the al Qaeda network that Washington blamed for the attacks.

But as the United States geared up for war against Iraq, relations soured bady as Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder expressed vocal opposition to the plans.

Although the United States took strong offence at Berlin's attitude, Schroeder's anti-war stance was popular in Germany and helped him to snatch victory in last September's elections.

Asked whether they believed that the U.S. government could have ordered the September 11 attacks itself, 31 percent of those surveyed under the age of 30 in the poll answered "yes", while 19 percent overall gave the same answer.

Die Zeit said widespread disbelief about the reasons given by the United States for going to war in Iraq and suspicion about media coverage of the conflict had fostered a climate in which conspiracy theories flourished.

"The news is controlled," 17-year old Kenny Donaubaur was quoted as saying. "You could see that in the Iraq war. It doesn't seem to me that you get the full truth."

Antifa Loses Nearly Every Conflict and Hurts The Democrats 19.Oct.2018 13:51


reading this at first i read irreverent 20.Nov.2018 21:06


irreverent maybe a better word than irrelevent