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disxcussion can yield some interesting results. Earlier I had posed. I believe. a question in  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2016/07/432804.shtml
After some discussion, what I see as an interim period as in the 30s, or really, a festering period will set in. Take a read at  link to www.zerohedge.com and then wonder at the 'economic miracle' or as one person said to me "We've never been here before..." to which I retorted, but silently out of the respect for the discussion "bull shit". Never been here before?

Still, I don't see how war will be avoided. Do you? Fortunately this time around, I'm too old for that shit to be arrested like the Vietnam War.

what kind of 'war'? 23.Jul.2016 19:08


shaker the world of the early-mid 20th century is far different from now.

Further, any 'war' would not be a clash of civilizations as World War II turned out to be.

after WWII, all wars will be limited 'brushfire' conflicts having no lasting economic impact to the major powers (except for gradual depletion of national resources, currency etc. in that direction)

There is no 'Home Front' for the purported War On Terror. It is a sham. Nobody is growing victory gardens, or recycling rubber, or holding canned food drives, etc. on behalf of the 'war production output' or soldiers deployed to Afghanistan / Iraq.
(Sure there are tiny nonprofits which do similar things, post-2001. But nothing at all compared to the gigantic U.S. government-sponsored and -overseen efforts of WWII. No comparison.)

There is no economic comparison (in terms of standards of living, income etc.) between the mid 1940s and today. None at all.

The U.S. government, in World War II, commandeered giant automotive factories (which the capitalist owners temporarily surrendered control of) in order for them to produce tanks, munitions, and aircraft. Today everything is handled by contractors, albeit at a smaller scale.
And, it is not done at a scale or with purpose of defeating an entire nation's (Germany's or Japan's) industrial war effort.
No comparison.

(As you are well aware, although the 'War On Terror' is heavily propagandized as some sort of "clash of civilizations" particularly by the far-right and Christian/religious right, it absolutely _IS NOT_ and actually is a gigantic 'false flag' similar to the Emmanuel Goldstein metaphor from Orwell's 1984)

have you mistaken 23.Jul.2016 21:03


what happened during the war while I'm speaking of what led to it?

stop talking in innuendo shaker Speak + define clearly what you mean. 24.Jul.2016 00:48


What imminent "war" are you on Earth talking about?

just write it out. No need to get all 'artsy', covert and/or political-innuendo with it.

(if you do so, then we can have a discussion / exchange of ideas. Thanks)

Prostitution and Upward Mobility? - Kamala Harris 27.Jul.2016 16:45

Red 'X' Society

Prostitution and Upward Mobility in the Sacramento Valley.

Carla Barros - AKA - Attorney General California Kamala Harris
Carla Barros - AKA - Attorney General California Kamala Harris

innuendo? 04.Aug.2016 08:58


"the nuclear option should not at all be taken off the table. That has been my position consistently."(ABC News, December 15, 2015)

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

(ABC "Good Morning America.", quoted by Reuters, April 22, 2008)

Both quotes of Hillay Clinton. She's consistent, all right. Heard Trump talk?


Pay attention? Or as Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." While paying attention to Orwell.