I'm not a fan of Albright, but after reading about the sold out event, I have to wonder about the agenda and purpose of the people planning to protest:
Prague Winter: A Personal Story of... Madeleine Albright New Trade Paper $15.99
Secretary Madeleine Albright SOLD OUT @ 7:00pm
Bagdad Theater 3702 SE Hawthorne Blvd.
Portland, OR
(503) 236-9234
Before Madeleine Albright turned 12, her life was shaken by the Nazi invasion of her native Prague, the Battle of Britain, the near-total destruction of European Jewry, the Allied victory in World War II, the rise of communism, and the onset of the Cold War. Drawing on her memory, her parents' written reflections, interviews with contemporaries, and newly available documents, Albright recounts a tale that is by turns harrowing and inspiring. In Prague Winter: A Personal Story of Remembrance and War, 1937-1948 (Harper Perennial), Albright reflects on her discovery of her family's Jewish heritage many decades after the war, on her Czech homeland's tangled history, and on the stark moral choices faced by her parents and their generation. At once a deeply personal memoir and an incisive work of history, Prague Winter serves as a guide to the future through the lessons of the past. Secretary Albright will be joined in conversation by Maria Wulff, president of the World Affairs Council of Oregon. This event is cosponsored by the World Affairs Council of Oregon.
Please note: Tickets for this special event, $15.99, include admission and a copy of Prague Winter, and are available at the box offices of the Bagdad Theater and Crystal Ballroom, online at eTix.com, or by phone at 855-227-8499. Books will be distributed at the event.
We're sorry, this event is sold out.
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Hmmm....Albright is Jewish. It will be interesting to see who shows up to protest. Using war crimes in Iraqi as an excuse is slight less odious than using the Palestinian cause as an excuse:
It would help if the persons calling for the protest clarified where they were coming from. As we've seen before, radical doesn't automatically equal progressive.
@tired
If you're that tired,"tired", then you've been reading recently enough to notice the flood of anti Semite bullshit on imc in the last month. In your own words it has been "Non Stop". Since the people didn't identify themselves, or even the subject Albright was speaking on, when I found out she was promoting her book about her youth in Prague and fleeing Nazis, that raised some flags. You know, because of the "non stop" anti Semite bs at imc. You also wrote: "Rex makes clear his obsessive agenda too." This doesn't make you look as smart as your think it did.
I apologize to the announcement poster if indeed their only concern was Albright's inhumane foreign policy. Still, it's an odd omission not to link to the speaking event and the subject. It could have underlined the protest: "Albright talks about fleeing Nazis, but those Iraqi children couldn't flee."
Note I wrote: "It would help if the persons calling for the protest clarified where they were coming from. " Are you Op?
@dude
Generally I agree, though I'd say she was out of touch and drunk on power. (Saying the same thing a different way?) But calling her a "major war criminal" is inaccurate, and over the top.
@Garth
You wrote:
"What does it matter if Albright is Jewish? The woman said she thought it was worth it that about a half million Iraqi children died under the sanctions in the 1990s. Would she only have been condemnable had she been a Christian? "
Your comment has some interesting inherent assumptions. Especially in light of certain "non stop" propaganda.
I don't care one way or the other what ethnicity or religion Albright is....but there's an organized community of clowns who do.
I agree her actions should be confronted by real progressives demanding social justice. What I have trouble imagining is real progressives organizing a protest of this event and not mentioning Albright's subject matter, the Nazi invasion in her early life.
And it's not like this was some secret event. It was on the Powell's calender. There was plenty of time to organize a real good protest, not some at the last minute with 2 hours to go half assed shit.
Albright was raised Catholic, but converted to Episcopalianism at the time of her marriage in 1959. Albright did not learn until late in life that her parents were Jewish and that many of her Jewish relatives in Czechoslovakia had perished in The Holocaust, including three of her grandparents.[12][13]
After the defeat of the Nazis in the European Theatre of World War II and the collapse of Nazi Germany and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, Albright and family moved back to Prague, where they were given a luxurious apartment in the Hradčany district (which later caused controversy, as it had belonged to an ethnic German Bohemian industrialist family forced out by the Bene decrees - see "Controversies"). Korbel was named Czechoslovak Ambassador to communist Yugoslavia, and the family moved to Belgrade. Communists governed Yugoslavia, and Korbel was concerned his daughter would be indoctrinated with Marxist ideology in a Yugoslav school, so she was taught by a governess and later sent to the Prealpina Institut pour Jeunes Filles in Chexbres, on Lake Geneva in Switzerland.[14] Here, she learned French and went by Madeleine, the French version of Madlenka, her Czech nickname.[15]
However, the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia took over the government in 1948...
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Notice how "rex" is not like most indymedia readers/posters? He/she never has anything meaningful to contribute from a radical left perspective. "rex" is the only person who is paid by a government to post here (and to many other sites).
"As we've seen before, radical doesn't automatically equal progressive." - rex
"rex", let me help you with trying to fit in at (infiltrate) left-oriented websites.
Radical does NOT equal progressive.(DUH!)
Progressives want to gradually reform existing social systems.
Radicals want to tear them down and build something completely different.
Hey, aren't you lucky? I'm up late...gotta get my "cointepro" overtime in, yo!
Now to your comments:
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"rex", let me help you with trying to fit in at (infiltrate) left-oriented websites.
Radical does NOT equal progressive.(DUH!)
Progressives want to gradually reform existing social systems.
Radicals want to tear them down and build something completely different.
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You are correct:
radical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_radicalism The term political radicalism (or simply, in political science, radicalism) denotes political principles focused on altering social structures through revolutionary means and changing value systems in fundamental ways.
progressive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism Progressivism is a general political philosophy advocating or favoring gradual social, political, and economic reform.
The point I was making, echoed in your own words, "left-oriented websites", is being radical isn't automatically mean one is from the "left", progressive being a convenient stand in for left politics in general. That is not strictly correct, so I apologize for the confusion.
However, most normal people who wondered what I meant would have just asked....
Now a question: why the obsession with labeling "infiltrators"? You sound like a very angry and unhappy person.
Since you appear to identify with radical (and presumably leftist)politics, perhaps you can use some of that radical anger commenting on the right wing spam. Let me suggest this vaccine thread: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/02/422037.shtml
It will be a more productive use of your time than imagining "infiltrators" under everyone's beds.
I have evidence of it: I have a constant erection for no explainable reason. I blame Rex.
@blues - you're delusional on a grand scale.
Those who go around accusing people, without evidence, of being saboteurs are likely the actual saboteur. It's self-defeating and damaging to spread rumors about people. Simply confront their ideas.
Rex is not a new contributor to Indymedia, that name has been used for a couple years. People who post anonymously without a regular handle are worthless in making these accusations, as any post is likely their first post ever. This is, yet again, another reason to use a name consistently in order to build up a reputation. Blues, Rex, Garth and myself have all done this. Figure it the fuck out, or please go away.
In Rex's first comment they are trying to clarify if this is going to be a masked-up protest or not. It likely wasn't, Rex. They rarely are. It was probably the same old people and nobody sexy. Everything beyond that has been stupid infighting, with nobody contributing anything to the market place of ideas.
>>>He/she never has anything meaningful to contribute from a radical left perspective
debunking anti vaccine and other propaganda is meaningful. some of that shit sounds reasonable until you know who's pushing it.
your meaningful contributions to a radical left perspective?
aside from calling imc users out as infiltrators....so meaningful /sarc
Maybe I'm over-sensitive to commenters who look like troublemakers. Maybe I've seen the rotten misery and ruination that certain people can inflict, and have become too touchy. That can get to you after a while.
You have to understand where rex is coming from. He's an unhappy individual who learned somewhere, probably from an authority figure early in life, that belittling people for mistakes is how to build their self esteem. Notice he dismisses all criticism as spewing off nonsense as if others look like fools.
But to rex it's not understandable. Because rex has deluded himself into believing rex never makes mistakes. Ergo he has no sympathy for people. We should feel sorry for him. Most people with this problem don't have close friends. Their constant negativity drives people away. They feel they're victimize and misunderstood.
Unfortunately, when they get called on shit, they don't reflect how they screwed up and how not to screw up again. Instead they look for the next excuse to attack someone to make themselves feel better. It never works but that doesn't stop them. Just look at rex on IMC.
Here's the original; you can see from the date the lame troll jlang copypasta my comment:
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@just wondering 23.Feb.2013 13:09
rex link
You have to understand where "." is coming from. They are an unhappy individual who learned somewhere, probably from an authority figure early in life, that belittling people for mistakes is how to build their self esteem. They probably come from the very privileged class they claim to criticize, are college educated and are possible obsessive compulsive. Notice they dismiss all of what "comrade" said as "spewing off nonsense and making yourself look like a fool" and only focus on the one(possible) mistake?
Actually most of "comrades" comment seems accurate. I think I've seen that blue haired guy, didn't know he was connected to conspiracy crazies. "Comrade" may be wrong about Schwiebert, but it's an understandable considering all the vocal libertarian tax resistor conspiracy spam out there. Just look at IMC.
But to "." it's not understandable. Because "." has deluded themselves into believing "." never makes mistakes. Ergo they have no sympathy for people who do. We should feel sorry for them. Most people with this problem don't have close friends. Their constant negativity drives people away. They feel they're victimize and misunderstood.
Unfortunately, when they get called on shit, they don't reflect how they screwed up and how not to screw up again. Instead they look for the next excuse to attack someone to make themselves feel better. It never works but that doesn't stop them.
Oh well. I guess everyone has to have a hobby.
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That all you got jlang?
BTW this kinda thing works better if you can show the person you're trolling is angry and irrational. All jlang's comment proves is they have the same hangups as "."
Today (February 20, 2013)
Prague Winter: A Personal Story of... Madeleine Albright New Trade Paper $15.99
Secretary Madeleine Albright SOLD OUT @ 7:00pm
Bagdad Theater 3702 SE Hawthorne Blvd.
Portland, OR
(503) 236-9234
Before Madeleine Albright turned 12, her life was shaken by the Nazi invasion of her native Prague, the Battle of Britain, the near-total destruction of European Jewry, the Allied victory in World War II, the rise of communism, and the onset of the Cold War. Drawing on her memory, her parents' written reflections, interviews with contemporaries, and newly available documents, Albright recounts a tale that is by turns harrowing and inspiring. In Prague Winter: A Personal Story of Remembrance and War, 1937-1948 (Harper Perennial), Albright reflects on her discovery of her family's Jewish heritage many decades after the war, on her Czech homeland's tangled history, and on the stark moral choices faced by her parents and their generation. At once a deeply personal memoir and an incisive work of history, Prague Winter serves as a guide to the future through the lessons of the past. Secretary Albright will be joined in conversation by Maria Wulff, president of the World Affairs Council of Oregon. This event is cosponsored by the World Affairs Council of Oregon.
Please note: Tickets for this special event, $15.99, include admission and a copy of Prague Winter, and are available at the box offices of the Bagdad Theater and Crystal Ballroom, online at eTix.com, or by phone at 855-227-8499. Books will be distributed at the event.
We're sorry, this event is sold out.
________________________________________________________________________-
Hmmm....Albright is Jewish. It will be interesting to see who shows up to protest. Using war crimes in Iraqi as an excuse is slight less odious than using the Palestinian cause as an excuse:
It would help if the persons calling for the protest clarified where they were coming from. As we've seen before, radical doesn't automatically equal progressive.