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“Zero Dark Thirty”: The deeper, darker truths

Obama didn't kill Osama
 http://empirestrikesblack.com/2013/02/zero-dark-thirty-the-deeper-darker-truths/

Osama bin Laden was not killed on 2 May 2011 during the raid on a compound in Pakistan. He actually died in Afghanistan on or about 15 December 2001 ~ and he was buried there in an unmarked grave.

Local obituaries reported Osama's death at the time. Even FOX News subsequently confirmed it. He was buried in an unmarked grave in accord with Muslim traditions. He did not die in Pakistan."

A film that may even take the Academy Award for "Best Picture of 2012" raises serious moral issues; glorifies a political stunt and is based on an historical fiction. It is the latest in Obama propaganda.

Osama bin Laden was not killed on 2 May 2011 during the raid on a compound in Pakistan. He actually died in Afghanistan on or about 15 December 2001 — and he was buried there in an unmarked grave.

Local obituaries reported Osama's death at the time. Even FOX News subsequently confirmed it. He was buried in an unmarked grave in accord with Muslim traditions. He did not die in Pakistan.
Nick Kollerstrom has published about it, Osama bin Laden: 1957-2001. David Ray Griffin has a book about it, Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive. And Scholars for 9/11 Truth has written about it.

The film suggests that torture produces actionable intelligence, when virtually every military and intelligence expert will confirm that you are told what those being tortured think you want to hear to stop the pain.

As TIME and the Huffington Post have reported, the film's depiction of torture has created a controversy that may affect its chances for an Oscar. Among the most notable commentaries is one by Matt Tiabbi.

A columnist for Rolling Stone, he has raised serious questions:

"[I]f it would have been dishonest to leave torture out of the film entirely, how is it not dishonest to leave out how generally ineffective it was, how morally corrupting, how totally it enraged the entire Arab world, how often we used it on people we knew little to nothing about, how often it resulted in deaths, or a hundred other facts? Bigelow put it in, which was "honest," but it seems an eerie coincidence that she was "honest" about torture in pretty much exactly the way a CIA interrogator would have told the story, without including much else."

***Osama was "our man in Afghanistan"***

Even more importantly, the political context has been all but lost to history. Obama was on the hot seat for an apparently fake birth certificate, having troops in Pakistan and not closing Guantanamo.

By alleging that the tip had come from a prisoner held there and using troops stationed in Pakistan, in a brilliant political stroke, he took his birth certificate off the front page, positioning himself for re-election.

Osama was "our man in Afghanistan." During the uprising against its occupation by Soviet forces, he was instrumental in securing Stinger missiles, which were used to shoot down their helicopters and planes.

In an earlier film about Afghanistan, "Charlie Wilson's War", Osama's role was conveniently omitted. It would have been embarrassing to have acknowledged "the man behind 9/11" had been working for us.

The demise of the Soviet Union in 1991 left the military/industrial complex scrambling for some new "boogie man" to justify massive expenditures on military weapons and curtail any "peace dividend."

Nothing could be more useful than a shadowy "terrorist" threat that has no geographical boundaries, where you can commit a terrorist act any time it's most politically convenient, as with the Bali bombing.

Australia had been reticent about joining the "war on terror." What could be a greater inducement than to slaughter many Australians by means of a fabricated attack to motivate its enthusiasm for that war?

Analogously, what could have been more beneficial to Obama than to "take out" a man who was already dead by executing a political stunt that most Americans would not be in a suitable position to contest?

***Problems with the "Official Account"***

But there were problems. Local residents had never seen Osama. They identified the man in the photo as the compound's owner, who was not bin Laden. The SEALs performed their task and were gone.

A photograph of the President, the Vice President, and the Secretary of State was widely circulated as engrossed in watching it go down in real time. But the photo itself would turn out to have been staged.

Leon Panetta, Director of the CIA, let the cat out of the bag by noting that there had been no visual footage of the raid during its first 20-25 minutes, which was more than the lapsed time for the whole event.

The body was allegedly identified by DNA comparisons in less time than scientifically possible ~ and was then dumped into the sea "in accordance with Islamic practice," which was a ridiculous contention.

Burial at sea is disrespectful of the body, which can be consumed by sharks, fish and crustaceans. That is not a Muslim tradition, but it conveniently disposed of the most powerful proof of fakery and fraud.

When most of the SEAL team involved in the raid were killed when their helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan a few months later, it was not implausible to suppose that they might have been silenced.

Osama and al-Qaeda, which was the name given to "our base" in Afghanistan, had nothing to do with 9/11. Osama denied that he was involved in 9/11, implicating a "government within the government."

Another prominent figure who has acknowledged the existence of a "government within the government" is William Jefferson Clinton, who admitted that this is an entity over which he exercised no control.

Research by experts at the Vancouver Hearings (15-17 June 2012) has vindicated his claim, where US neo-cons ~ with assistance from the Mossad and the complicity of the Pentagon ~ orchestrated 9/11.

There are many articles about this, including "Peeling the 9/11 Onion: Layers of Plots within Plots" (with Preston James) and "James H. Fetzer: 9/11 IRAN REVIEW Interview". Or read "9/11: Have we been bamboozled?" The second death of Osama does not stand alone.

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Video: Osama bin Laden denies involvement in 9/11

 http://www.videosfortruth.com/osama-bin-laden-denies-involvement-in-911/

Clinton Connection 08.Feb.2013 22:57

Dude

Note Bill Clinton, Arnold Schwarzenegger and perhaps Sylvester Stallone
were at the Grammy s watching the awards for zero dark 30.
Looking for Osama for Obama
Looking for Osama for Obama
Did You See Osama
Did You See Osama

....... 09.Feb.2013 07:47

Caesar

Barack Hussein Obama is an illegal alien.

Not sure about this guy 09.Feb.2013 12:27

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I also wonder about the Osama situation. But is this guy a good source?

According to this blog Fetzer has some weird connections to both Moonie and Larouche cults:
 http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/03/jim-fetzer.html

Fetzer also organizes with antisemites:

 link to rosecityantifa.weebly.com

"Jim Fetzer is a conspiracy theorist who publicly denies that he is an antisemite while recycling antisemitic myths such as those of "dancing Israelis" on 9/11/01, as well as promoting writings by antisemitic propagandists such as Benjamin Freedman."

Maybe Mr. Fetzer can weigh in?

“New” news to me. 10.Feb.2013 15:32

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Never heard of this before.
Jun 21, 2002  http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
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Good abc link 10.Feb.2013 15:56

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Of course conspiracy loons will dismiss this as the media out to get them:

"Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.

The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel. '

That's the OWNER of the moving company, NOT the students. The students were left "holding the bag" so to speak:

"'A Scary Situation'

Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients' actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. "You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They're speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on 'em. One's got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that's a scary situation."

But Gordon insisted that his clients were just five young men who had come to America for a vacation, ended up working for a moving company, and were taking pictures of the event.

The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests. "

Shit those kids(well, they're in their 30s now) probably want the hide of their employer for leaving them high and dry MORE than conspiracy loons who think "Jews did it". If anyone might have been a spy, it was the moving company owner, who was long gone:
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Sources also said that even if the men were spies, there is no evidence to conclude they had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. The investigation, at the end of the day, after all the polygraphs, all of the field work, all the cross-checking, the intelligence work, concluded that they probably did not have advance knowledge of 9/11," Cannistraro noted.

As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the attack on the Internet, couldn't see it from their offices and went to the parking lot for a better view. But no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct.

According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.

While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS' questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.

Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."

A GALLERY OF FAKE DEAD BIN LADENS 12.Feb.2013 11:28

Osama bin Rottin'

Proof that Reuters' and the British Press used photoshopped images of the supposedly freshly killed bin Laden.

 http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/galleryoffakebinladens.php

Osama bin Laden was a CIA puppet and Al Qaeda are CIA/NATO mercenaries. 25.Feb.2013 12:28

Al Qaeda is CIA

Osama bin Laden was an agent and a puppet of the CIA. Osama bin Laden died in Afghanistan during the winter of 2001-2, and the posthumous videos and audios attributed to Osama bin Laden are forgeries produced by the CIA. The Abbottabad raid by the US Navy Seals was a hoax.
 http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/galleryoffakebinladens.php

Al Qaeda is a group of international mercenaries who are organized, funded, and directed by the CIA and NATO to conduct assassinations, false-flag attacks, and phoney insurgencies or "revolutions" in an effort to destabilize nations and overthrow governments that are targeted by the CIA and NATO. Al Qaeda mercenaries have served NATO and the CIA in the Balkans (Kosovo, etceteras), against Gaddafi in Libya, and now against Assad in Syria.
 http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-us-al-qaeda-alliance-bosnia-kosovo-and-
now-libya-washington-s-on-going-collusion-with-terrorists/25829

In the aftermath of the CIA-supported "Jasmine Revolution" in Tunisia, that country has become a staging ground for the NAT0/CIA-led mercenaries; recently 132 NAT0/CIA mercenaries carrying Tunisian passports or identifications were killed in Syria.
 http://www.4thmedia.org/2013/02/16/syria-132-tunisian-insurgents-killed-in-
aleppo-tunisia-developing-into-salafist-hotbed/

 http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/11/27/274840/syria-names-142-foreign-
insurgents/

The African Embassy Bombings; the USS Cole bombing; the 9/11 attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon; the Bali, Madrid, and London 7/7 bombings; and the Mumbai 2008 attack were all perpetrated by the CIA, in collusion with its agents and its allies. Since 9/11/2001, the FBI in the USA and the MI5 and MI6 in the UK have provocateured many "terrorist plots" which exploited naive and incompetent Moslem youths as patsies. The "War on Terrorism" is actually a US/NATO/Israeli war of aggression for dominance and control of the resource-rich Middle East, Africa, and South Asia.

Manufactured history, State propaganda, and professional sycophancy. 22.Mar.2013 18:20

Camille Lascaux

War Lovers Pitch Book at Powells, Meet Blowback from Wise Elders

On Wednesday, March 20th, at 7:30pm, Powell's City of Books on Burnside
hosted three of the authors, including the co-editor, of the war-fiction
anthology "Fire and Forget: Short Stories from the Long War."

Powell's Books' advert for the event said: "Fire and Forget: Short Stories
from the Long War (Da Capo) is an unprecedented collection of hard-
hitting, poignant short stories written by 13 young veterans of the Iraq
and Afghanistan wars. On-hand for a panel discussion will be
coeditor/contributor Roy Scranton and contributors David Abrams and Gavin
Kovite. This event is cosponsored by the Returning Veterans Project."

At their appearance at Powell's, Scranton, Abrams, and Kovite tried to
sell the idea that the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were "just wars" which
improved the lives the people of Iraq and Afghanistan while protecting
Americans. They said they hoped that their book would help to persuade the
public that the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were justified.

During the Question and Answer session that followed the three "Fire and
Forget" authors' presentation at Powell's Books, the authors were asked
why they chose fiction, instead of non-fiction, to describe the US-led
wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The authors replied that fiction provided a
more creative way to present their message, which they hoped would become
the dominant narrative for the history of the wars in Afghanistan and
Iraq.

As the Question and Answer session continued, an Asian-American woman
stood up and said that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were based on lies,
were crimes against the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, and were extremely
detrimental for the US troops and for the US economy. Then a Viet Nam War
veteran stood up and said basically the same thing.

A young Powell's staffer interrupted both the woman and the veteran, and
he tried to pressure them to stop speaking, but they both ignored him, and
they both said what they wanted to say. The crowd was swayed by the woman
and the veteran's speeches, and for the remainder of the evening the three
pro-War authors were conducting a damage-control operation for their
Imperialist ideology.

The knowledge and ethics gap between the elder, wiser generation and the
young war-lovers was palpable at the event.

Manufactured history, State propaganda, and professional sycophancy.

The US Government, the US Military, and the CIA provide funding, support,
and a career path for propaganda writers and filmmakers through various
agencies. Shortly after 9/11, the US Government announced that it was
recruiting writers to construct a narrative around the War on Terrorism.
Later the US Military announced that it was directing active-duty service
personnel to write pro-war and pro-military blogs on the Internet.
Journalists are embedded with the US Military and the CIA in war zones, in
foreign assignments, and within the USA. Since World War Two, the US
Military has maintained a film propaganda agency, headquartered in Los
Angeles, that "liaisons" with the Hollywood film industry to produce
propaganda films that masquerade as action films and as historical or
political dramas.

In "Seal Target Geronimo" (2011), a book about the alleged raid by US Navy
Seals that supposedly killed Osama bin Laden, author Chuck Pfarrer wrote:

"Just days after the operation, the CIA started to meet with authors. The
agency knew that JSOC [Joint Special Operations Command] would not
cooperate with journalists or historians -- and that would allow them a
chance to "inform the narrative" of the raid at Abbottabad. There was a
legend to be made, and all that was necessary was to pour out the facts
into the waiting notebooks of eager journalists.
But which story was the right one? The forty-five minute firefight?
The "kill mission" to Abbottabad? The story was becoming muddled with
corrections, and it looked like the tail was starting to wag the dog. The
White House cracked down, and in the second week of May, the word went
out -- no more leaks. Anyone who talked would be fired. This wrong-footed
the CIA's Office of Public Affairs (OPA), who had already begun to meet
with several authors. Writers and screenwriters who had been invited to
headquarters for talks on background suddenly found themselves frozen out.
[...]
As he prepared to move over to the Pentagon, Leon Panetta gave a CIA tour
to a gaggle of twenty-five freshman congressmen. The topic of the Bin
Laden movie actually came up, and one of the congressmen asked Panetta who
he wanted to play him in the movie. Panetta answered right away -- "Al
Pacino," he said.
Before Leon Panetta left the CIA, he'd quietly given the go-ahead to bring
back the writers. But not just any [italics] writers. Those frozen few who
had hoped the agency would call them back now read that the CIA was in the
movie [italics] business.
Vanity Fair [italics] reported that Oscar-winner Kathryn Bigelow [who
directed the Hollywood war-fiction propaganda film "The Hurt Locker,"
which was released in 2008] would direct the CIA's version of the
Abbottabad raid for Sony Pictures. As Ms Bigelow lunched in the CIA's food
court, she was unlikely to have spotted a table of plain-clothed SEALs,
but they saw her."

Kathryn Bigelow's film "Zero Dark Thirty" (2012), about the alleged raid
by US Navy Seals at Abbottabad, Pakistan, that supposedly killed Osama bin
Laden, was nominated for five Oscars for the 85th Academy Awards,
including Best Picture, Best Actess (Jessica Chastain), and Best Original
Screenplay. It was a theatrical triumph of manufactured history, State
propaganda, and professional sycophancy.