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obit. Gore Vidal, no acknowledgment of 9/11 as inside job

curious to see many of the vanguard left-liberal outlets (reference/check 'em out yourselves) express such reverent appreciation for the life and work of the late great Gore Vidal this past week.

What was more interesting though, was how none of those venues mentioned his doubting of the officially-presented events narrative for September 11, 2001.
did anyone happen to find a single obituary / article on Gore Vidal's passing,

which notes his 9/11 skepticism in particular ?

don't miss a beat 05.Aug.2012 13:23

Jimmy Mack

Because A) He didn't. He said he believed the United States government had advanced knowledge and chose to do nothing about it, B) Watch any interview of him over the last 10 years and you get that he had kind of started to go a little...mmmm, I don't know, senile, also evidenced by C) He openly sympathize, correspond with, and express his comradery with THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBER. You know, the madman who murdered a hundred some odd men women and children because he was a right wing conspiracy nut who couldn't differentiate between his government and children in a fucking day care.

Source? 05.Aug.2012 15:45

Den Mark, Vancouver WA

I never read anything that said that Vidal agreed with mcvey. Corresponding with mcvey would fit Vidal's curiosity & does not imply sympathy. As to 9/11, am i right in recalling that Vidal said that the victims were as much victims of government foreign policy as of the terrorists, which happens to be the truth. It's still the truth. People still die because of u.s. foreign policy, by the thousands, but americans are busy shopping & snacking & watching tv.

interviews: Gore Vidal on 911 05.Aug.2012 16:52

learn how to read pravda


Classic 06.Aug.2012 06:42

Garth

This is a classic case of the 9-11 conspiracy folks reading something to mean what they want it to instead of what it is. Vidal never said the bombings were an inside job. He did say the government screwed up, missed all the signs, and for him the most important aspect was that the Bush Administration was not held accountable for this incompetence. Congress just rolled over and didn't hold any investigations of substance. That is a far cry from saying it was an inside job.

" That is a far cry " 06.Aug.2012 12:23

ungarth

" classic case "

what the he** is a 'classic case' ? You sound like a 'classic case' for the funny farm.


" reading something to mean what they want it to instead of what it is "

Who's "reading" anything ?

Have you answered the originally posited thread request? None of the published obituaries have referenced his skepticism on the events of September 11, 2001.

" Vidal never said the bombings were an inside job. "

He did, as much, in the videos posted above. He had serious doubts about the official story, and believed in the possibility (while he many not have himself cast a direct case or 'accusation') that the Bush administration had some foreknowledge or complicity in that day's events.

Watch those videos, learn and understand.


" He did say the government screwed up, missed all the signs, and for him the most important aspect was that the Bush Administration was not held accountable for this incompetence."

Citation please? Sounds like __you__ Garth, said that -- not Gore Vidal.



" 9-11 conspiracy folks "

Who might they be? In one of the GV interview videos posted above, he recommends one of David Ray Griffin's books to the audience.

There are many levels and areas for skepticism of the official 9/11 story provided by U.S. government. One need not assert a "conspiracy" in order to cast skepticism upon the official-presented narrative.

R.I.P. Gore Vidal: Interview about Imperial America. 06.Aug.2012 17:41

musing

R.I.P. Gore Vidal: Interview about Imperial America on Democracy Now—
"This interview, uploaded to youtube in August 2011, was apparently recorded sometime during the bu$h administration." — (article - August 4th 2012)  link to exopermaculture.com





~ Peace
~ In Memoriam ~
~ In Memoriam ~

Here 07.Aug.2012 10:57

Jimmy Mack

On 9/11:

"Everything the Bushites touch is screwed up. They could never have pulled off 9/11, even if they wanted to. Even if they longed to. They could step aside, though, or just go out to lunch while all these terrible things were happening to the nation. Yeah. I believe that of them."

Suck on that "truthers."

 http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2001/09/mcveigh200109\

This is the link to his piece on Timothy Mcveigh. He did have an active correspondence with him until Mcveigh was executed, and I don't know if I would say he supported his actions so much as sympathized with him, at least from what I can gather. It had actually been misrepresented to me when explained, and this is actually a somewhat deep and thoughtful interpretation on Timothy Mcveigh's actions and those of the United States government. I personally think he was a madman. But it does give balance to the whole debacle. I feel weary of posting this here because I'm sure the "truthers" will read it and then say that Vidal was an Oklahoma City Bombing "truther." Seriously, do you people not get this, when writers ask questions like this they're usually doing so to make you think outside of the box, because there are sick and disturbing things your government is ready and willing to do to you. But not EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS UNDER THE SUN IS BEING COMMITTED BY YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. They have to eat, drink and shit too you know.

And another thing.. 07.Aug.2012 11:16

Jimmy Mack

What about this, you see the story next to this one, to your left, the one about Anarchists being brought before a Grand Jury? Now, I don't know these people personally, but I'm assuming they're not "truthers," and I'm assuming they don't put much stock in the belief and probably don't have a lot of friends who are, and probably have devoted next to zero time of their life in anything relating to 9/11. But they're being persecuted by their federal government. There is a deliberate attempt to destroy their credibility, bring them out into the open, and instill fear in their persons. So somebody must thing they're a threat to something. Something in their perception of the world, in their paradigm in a threat to the United States government and it's interests and they want to destroy that paradigm and de-legitimize it before it spreads.

Now, let me ask you something else. Does anyone give a shit, a flying fucking shit about you or your "truther" friends? Do you think the F.B.I. even notices you exist? Or anyone of your ilk for that matter? Why? There are probably more truthers than there are Anarchists, or at least before the Occupy movement there were according to polls. But why are they a threat, non-violent, or not than comparatively speaking in regards to...most of the rest of the general population; believers in an ideology that does nothing but promote freedom and altruism. Why aren't there "Grand Jury Indicts Steve the twice divorcee" instead of these two? Whose perception of reality is more of a threat to the United States government and it's interests, you or them? Ask yourself that, seriously.

I'm trying to argue logic with you people. I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I know it's hard to admit you've wasted years of your life here. But Gore Vidal...You can't even get your own token boys straight; put next to no stock in the theory as well. No one with any sense is with you here. Give it up.

"su** on" WHAT, "Jimmy Mack" ? 07.Aug.2012 11:47

_

" "Everything the Bushites touch is screwed up. They could never have pulled off 9/11, "


Still (of course) no citation but that's par for your course.

Anyway, 2,000% refuted by the video interviews with GV posted above. One of the interviews btw was conducted in late Sept. 2001, and the other one in 2009; so a full perspective and perhaps? 'evolution' of his view of the topic can be clearly seen, as well.

the September 2001 [note its publication date] article in Vanity Fair you linked about McVeigh says __NOTHING__ about the September 11, 2011 attacks.

(and yet furthermore the issue of McVeigh was already dealt with, as was mention of the VF article itself earlier on thread prior to your regurg)



" Does anyone give a shit, "


Well you apparently did, enough to post total irrelevance several times over onto this thread. What other possible reason (we wonder) might there be for your feigned? interest....

Fuck me 08.Aug.2012 11:13

James Browns ghost

I'm Jewish, and I'll admit, I was responsible for 9/11.

JUST GET MY NAME OFF YOUR WEBSITE. ADAM TREMAINE AND SYLVIO GRACO, PLEASE.

rex and the Antifa are disinformation agents serving the elitist Establishment. 11.Mar.2013 10:15

Antifas are Fascists

The message of rex and the Antifa is:
9/11 Truthers, critics of the War on Terrorism, critics of the Israeli theocracy, and critics of Global Warming are "dangerous conspiracy loons."

rex and the Antifa parrot the "official version" of the White House, the Pentagon, the mainstream media, and the corporations. rex and the Antifa are disinformation agents serving the elitist Establishment. Their goal is to disrupt the activities of real activists.

rex and the Antifa are disinformation agents serving the elitist Establishment. 11.Mar.2013 10:15

Antifas are Fascists

The message of rex and the Antifa is:
9/11 Truthers, critics of the War on Terrorism, critics of the Israeli theocracy, and critics of Global Warming are "dangerous conspiracy loons."

rex and the Antifa parrot the "official version" of the White House, the Pentagon, the mainstream media, and the corporations. rex and the Antifa are disinformation agents serving the elitist Establishment. Their goal is to disrupt the activities of real activists.