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Whatever happened to freedom from religion?

Believers in organized religions have been sold into a kind of slavery by governments, priests, ministers, rabbis and imams. What's even worse, many parents supporting these religions force their children to accept fanciful, irrational and hateful beliefs - a form of child abuse.
"Every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics: You are all stardust. You couldn't be here if stars hadn't exploded, because the elements - carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution - weren't created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the only way they could get into your body is if those stars were kind enough to explode. So forget Jesus. The stars died so you could be here today." Physicist Lawrence M. Krauss, 2009.

Forget Jesus? Is Professor Krauss serious? Yes, considering the fact that Jesus is the most overrated human being who likely never existed on the planet Earth.

Jewish historian Philo (20 BCE - 50 CE), along with about 40 other historians of that period don't say anything about Jesus. Only two paragraphs from one historian - Josephus - are alleged to refer to Jesus, but forgeries and disputes abound. For someone who performed all those miracles, died on a cross and rose from the dead, one would think there'd be a great deal of historical evidence, but there's not.

The character of Jesus - like other prophets and gods of Judaism and Christianity - is based on a compilation of earlier Pagan beliefs and sky gods.

* Jesus evolved from Horus and Osiris of Egypt, Attis of Phrygia, Krishna of India, Mithra of Persia, among others.
* The three kings or magi can be found in Orion's belt - pointing to the star Sirius and to sunrise on December 25th.
* The 12 disciples of Jesus are the 12 constellations of the Zodiac.
* Moses was created from Sargon of Akkad, Mises of Egypt and Minos of Crete.
* The Ten Commandments are a later edition of the Babylonian Code of Hammurabi, the Hindu Vedas and spell 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
* Many ancient cultures mention the great flood. Noah and his ark were built upon these and the flood in the Epic of Gilgamesh (2,600 BCE).
(References: The God Who Wasn't There, Zeitgeist: The Movie and Atheist Alliance International 2009 Convention.)

Religious belief is not based on facts. For example, the 1915 Armenian Genocide, orchestrated by the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire, is still denied by Turkey. One and a half million Armenians were slaughtered for their religious belief (Christian) by those with an opposing belief (Muslim).

Throughout the course of history, many millions of human beings have been killed because one group of deranged people despised the religion and ethnicity of another group. Fundamental Christians, Jews and Muslims are responsible for ongoing wars of domination. Lethargic Christians, Jews and Muslims are responsible for allowing these wars to continue.

In the U.S. over the past few decades, religion creep has turned into a religious invasion. Now with Romney the Mormon and Santorum the Catholic running for U.S. president, it's beyond absurd. What do these two developmentally disabled adults understand about science? And yet, the smooth-talking psychopath named Obama is clearly not an option for our optimal health.

Faith-based belief in government and religion will result in our downfall.

anok 02.Apr.2012 19:24


Yeah right, we get it, not a lot of religious people on here. If you want to speak to a demographic who shows up here looking to pontificate shitty religious notions go after the 2012 folk. Those are the vapid shit for brains non idealist religious people. At least Christians and Jews and Muslims are dealing in reality in the sense that their religions give them community and a sense of acceptance. And not all religious people are Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney. The 2012 folk are the ones out of their fucking skulls. A religion based off of a cultural fad that's based off a misrepresentation of the Mayan calendar accepted by absolutely no one who adheres to that faith. And we have to listen to them because we all fit into the demographic of people who listened to Bob Dylan when we were 17 years old. We get it though, most of us are cranky leftists who hate religion just as much as you do.

On top of which, no matter who (and we know it's going to be Mitt) comes out of the Republican primary on top, not one of them stands a chance of winning unless no one votes. Which I don't really care I"m still going to vote Green. I think most conservatives and folk in the middle are kind of feeling the way you do these days. I don't think we have to drive the point home any more, George W. Bush did that all by his lonesome, we can get on with our lives and deal with this in relation to how it pertains to interpersonal relationships, or some political significance, somewhere in rural alybamy I'm sure some awfully sexist patriarchal bullshit law is about to be voted on or go into effect. But I know all of this already.

anok 02.Apr.2012 19:36


Oh yeah, and alot of Zeitgiest was bullshit too. I'm an atheist, but 9/10's (one less than 11) of that movie was utter fabrication. Like, what was it, Bethlehem, yeah Bethlehem, he said there was no Bethlehem prior to like...1000 A.D., which is of course, at least if you DO follow science and academia, is utter bullshit and he has no fucking idea what he's talking about and there's been a town called Bethlehem since before the Jews showed up in the region. I mean, the guy was pulling things literally out of the air, completely and utterly misrepresenting quotes so as to appeal to people who WEREN'T going to follow up on them...I mean seriously, why Zeitgeist, it's actually about as rooted in reality as the New Testament.

And another thing, on going wars, no, not because of religion, because of politics. The religion is the language in which people usually communicate. If that were the case, that say, Israel and Palestine isn't a geo-political struggle but a religious one, than why not until the 20th century did it manifest itself in the way that it has, why only until a secularist nationalist ideology showed up did anything resembling what's happening now take place. And than Christianity is responsible for the Civil Rights movement, never mind all that activist stuff. But most of these wars have NOTHING to do with religion other than in the abstract. Maybe some sort of reaffirming of cultural elitism and xenophobia, but they usually also occur in some sort of ethnic/tribal/geo-political sort of framework so...