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9/11 and the Rise of the Global Police State

"A History of False Flag Events" Presented by a panel of 9-11 activists, 6 different historic "false flag events" will be described and briefly discussed. False Flag actions are, of course, bread and butter for the growing global police state. Don't be caught flat footed
9/11 and the Rise of the Global Police State

Jim Fetzer, Author, Teacher

Co-Founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Friday, September 9th 7pm - 9pm
Sellwood Community Center
1436 SE Spokane Street

Recommended Reading: "Peeling the 9/11 Onion: Layers of Plots within Plots", Veterans Today



Continuing Education for Dissident Citizens

Saturday, Sept 10th 10am-3pm

Sellwood Community Center



10am-11am "Critical Thinking" A lecture discussion of the meaning of critical thinking. Discussion of rhetorical devices that cloud critical thinking, ad homonym attacks, straw man, cognitive dissonance, cognitive diversity, poisoning the well, guilt by association; Concept of "belief" in the realm of critical thinking. Led by Professor Tim Calvert SFB, dissident, critical thinker.



11am-12pm "A History of False Flag Events" Presented by a panel of 9-11 activists, 6 different historic "false flag events" will be described and briefly discussed. False Flag actions are, of course, bread and butter for the growing global police state. Don't be caught flat footed Presented by Professor Tim Titrud, Professor Cathie Bell, and Professor Richard Frager Ph.D. V.A.T.



12pm-1pm Catered Lunch. Food will be brought in so that the discussion and momentum will remain high. Food will include both Vegetarian/vegan and meat from the proud tradition of Iraq. Food catered by Zahra Alkabi, Iraqi Refugee living in Portland.



1pm-2pm Guest speaker Fritz Springmeir, author, political prisoner, expert on secret societies and the occult, will discuss occult symbolism in the 9-11 attacks.



2pm-3pm Resource Review for activists. A panel of 9-11 truth activists will present their favorite resources from Books, documentaries to Web Sites. All 9-11 activists are welcome to submit a sheet with web sites, books and documentaries.



Pre-registration encouraged. Cost for both days $35.00. Jim Fetzer's talk will be $10.00. Saturday workshops with lunch included will be $25.00.

All who pre-register will have lunch included with their registration fee, late comers will pay for lunch. Contact Oregontt.aol.com.



More information and registration form at  http://www.pdx911truth.com

 link to protest.net
 link to protest.net

503-823-3195, 503-701-3481

homepage: homepage: http://911scholars.ning.com/profiles/blogs/9-11-and-the-rise-of-the-global-police-state-portland-or-9?xg_source=activity
phone: phone: 503-823-3195
address: address: Sellwood Community Center 1436 SE Spokane Street


* 04.Sep.2011 09:43

Damos(A)

I seriously doubt this will even have much of a turn-out, considering the cost and that it's way out in Sellwood.

david irving was way out at the airport 09.Sep.2011 18:09

otoh

don't think distance from downtown affects these folks. they have at least a couple of mailing lists sure to get the word out to the die hard brainwashed faithful. otoh the cost is kinda high for this kinda thing. can't see the usual tea bagger conspiracy fan shelling 35 bucks out that could go to beer.....

A likely answer to this odd situation 10.Sep.2011 18:15

worth repeating

"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments." - Nietzsche.

This method is also known as 'poisoning the well.' But to add to another well-worn phrase, 'please don't throw the 9/11 truth baby out with the disinformation bath water!'

Many who've seriously looked into the evidence about 9/11/2001 agree with or lean toward some form of 'inside job' explanation for what happened that day. Take a hard look at the damning DVD "9/11 Mysteries," or carefully read books like "Crossing the Rubicon" and "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions." These are almost impeccable in their critical analyses of 9/11/2001 when compared to 'official' conspiracy story sources, and, when combined with looking at everything else investigators can find out about it, feel they have little rational choice other than to see the events of 9/11/2001 as having been some form of 'inside job.' And this isn't even mentioning the fairly recent discovery of nano-thermite chips in WTC tower debris by Steven Jones, et al. <  http://tinyurl.com/dny6mo >

Well, if an 'inside job' was indeed at work, then associating in the public's mind
(a) the 9/11 truth movement
plus
(b) racism and/or other bizarre theories
equals
*precisely* what those who might be covering up any 9/11 'inside job' would want: more cover.

Indeed, they may want this association meme so badly that they try to *make sure* it happens.

Consider this scenario: Provocateurs are put into grassroots, progressive-leaning 9/11 groups, and honest citizen investigators are one by one ousted by incessant personal attacks, harassment, real and faked internecine 'fights,' or just the general negative atmosphere of group meetings. These ousted citizens are quickly replaced by followers of bizarre &/or racist theories and yet more provocateurs. Public figures are invited by the group to speak; some speakers are authentic 9/11 researchers/whistleblowers, others spout bizarre &/or racist theories. The general public, of course, doesn't know which is which in advance but eventually learns to associate the concept of "9/11 truth" with "bizarre &/or racist theories" and subsequently steers clear of anything having to do with "9/11 truth."

It certainly doesn't help that some of the leading exponents of mainstream 9/11 truth seem oblivious to this phenomenon, occasionally even appearing themselves on openly racist talk shows and conferences. But even given that disturbing situation, the evidence for 9/11/2001 having been some form of 'inside job' is simply too overwhelming to brush aside as 'fascist conspiracy mongering.' (But it does make one wonder about the degree of naivete' or ultimate allegiances of said leading exponents....)

Anyway, the irony of this present situation with Tim Calvert, Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance, et al may be this:
The expressed anti-Jewish, etc. sentiment is not motivated by actual disdain toward Jews, etc. so much as simply wanting to implement cynical disinformation designed to fracture the 9/11 truth movement both internally and from the 'left/progressive' public.

But whether authentic racism or cynical tactic, allowing oneself to be swayed to believe that the 9/11 truth movement is dominated by ugly racists and bizarre theories is also counter to the facts about the mainstream of that movement. (For just a few examples, see www.911truth.org, www.911blogger.com, www.truthaction.org,  http://stj911.org (Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice), and  http://pl911truth.com (Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth).)

As far as the term 'conspiracy theory' used pejoratively, progressives and allies should take a hard look-and soon-at "Conspiracy Phobia On the Left" by Michael Parenti, who is hardly a wild-eyed radical right-winger (see
www.questionsquestions.net/documents2/conspiracyphobia.html ).
KBOO also recently broadcast a talk Parenti gave about how so many on the left have been led to reflexively dismiss any discussion of conspiracy by those in positions of power.

Also consider this: There really is a sizable percentage of the neo-Nazi, white-supremacist movement who sincerely consider themselves to be environmentalists and even make statements for protecting/living harmoniously with Nature. Suppose a local environmental group was dominated by such people, and suppose it invited speakers of their outlook to give talks about it. Does that mean that progressives and their allies should immediately abandon working for environmental causes or otherwise on behalf of Nature? Of course it doesn't. But by the same token, the racist actions of the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance shouldn't mean that progressives and their allies should abandon uncovering and spreading the truth about 9/11/2001.

Why? BECAUSE WIDESPREAD PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACTS OF 9/11/2001 ENDS THE WARS, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. The attacks of 9/11 were done-in part-to generate and maintain those wars. Widespread willful ignorance/fear/denial of that knowledge by the public, on the other hand, simply maintains the Empire's status quo: endless wars and endless suffering for many, leading to endless profits and endless power for few.

The stakes involved in widespread 9/11-truth knowledge are absolutely enormous; that's why there's such a big disinformation push by those wanting to maintain the coverup and maintain this status quo. Yes, the ramifications of 9/11 truth are deeply disturbing-there's been and continues to be betrayal and manipulation on a large scale (though many doing so no doubt were/are being manipulated/duped by various means), and 9/11 truth itself is only the tip of a very big social pathology iceberg.

Transforming this situation for the better requires widespread knowledge of the actual facts involved. So follow the truth wherever it leads and expose it to light, but-as the situation in Portland is now pointing out-just also be sure to use great care when choosing those to expose it with.
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Omg 13.Sep.2011 17:44

aguy

Saw a poster about these people, lol. Not very flatering. Probably a grayscale printed from the fans of antifa blog...for comparison see  http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3135/pdxnutslol.jpg

This was your event? 13.Sep.2011 18:08

words fail


lol 13.Sep.2011 20:52

wait for it

the bwaaahing will start in 3...2...

discussion

doing time 02.Sep.2011 18:37

anon

see image
Doing Time
Doing Time

real terrorist 02.Sep.2011 19:44

Damos(A)

Yeah, i heard this miserable piece of shit Cheney just put out a new book, trying to pin all the blame on Colin Powell. Not that Powell himself is blameless - but really, Cheney should be tried for global atrocities and then hung.

hahahaha doing time indeed 02.Sep.2011 19:49

rAT

Hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!

ps 02.Sep.2011 20:03

rAT

Heyyyyy- that's much better than Oswald's "backyard" photo!

haha what? 03.Sep.2011 13:59

rex

"1pm-2pm Guest speaker Fritz Springmeir, author, political prisoner, expert on secret societies and the occult, will discuss occult symbolism in the 9-11 attacks. "

Occult. Symbolism. of 911.

that is awesome.

This is also the guy who tried to bomb an adult video store.

IXXI Truth Movement perverted by right-wing xtians! 03.Sep.2011 14:25

Damos(A)

Oh man, i looked up this Fritz Springmeir guy, and he's a christian right-wing piece of shit! He thinks the entire world is under threat by some "Global Satanic Conspiracy"! Total white supremist horseshit!

Just look at his wiki page:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Springmeier

Posting graphics content (media attachments) is futile 03.Sep.2011 17:26

media server RIP

Thumb-nail pictorial items posted along with articles and comments remain at thumb-nail scale. (When I, for one, click on the thumb-nail, the browser returns an alert "Unable to connect" and that it "can't establish a connection with the server at media.portland.indymedia.org". If anyone else *does not* experience this same or similar failure, I'd like to know.) The effect is usually less than what the contributor intended. Photos remain tiny. Print matter remains generally unreadable except for the very large print.

It's apparent that the PIMC media server doesn't process media attachments and/or respond to requests for downloading in their original scales, as attached by contributors -- anymore. (It once did, but hasn't been accessible -- if indeed it still exists -- for several months. Alerts, queries to PIMC volunteers -- I guess that's "worker bees" -- have stirred no reaction or brought some explanation, so far as I know. If the media server is to be off-line indefinitely, "Step 3: choose file attachments . . ." should be modified -- either removed or edited to say in effect that media attachments aren't supported "at this time".)

A parallel site is needed to send readers to in order to benefit from the graphic content (photos, print posters, flyers, etc.) that contributors wish to have viewed or copied as accompaniment to their postings. Those posting to PIMC and wanting to include some kind of an attachment of a graphics/pictorial/print poster nature might consider identifying an alternate site and its URL/link in order to allow users to view/read/download graphic content that they wish to be a part of their posted narrative or comment.

no working img links seriously sucks 03.Sep.2011 21:29

shrugs

google came up with another posting they have here:
 http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/09/02/18689317.php

pic link works fine:  http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2011/09/02/fetzer-911event.jpg

note differences in description of event in image: "2 hate crimes matthew shepard" is in the image but not in the text. weird.

Thankfully 04.Sep.2011 06:44

Garth

Well, at least the occult symbol talk is after the one on critical thinking. God knows how the occult symbol thing could have gone awry if people weren't thinking critically about it.

Worth attending 09.Sep.2011 08:58

FalseFlagUSA

With all the bogus events going on in Portland, spOOky speakers, pro-war goons, pretend Patriots, this event looks like a breath of fresh air. I don't care how many attend, I WILL be there. The attacks on the speakers are unfounded, but the useful idiots have to say something nasty, that is their M.O. Let the truth be known.

Open Hearts Open Minds - Sharing AND Caring!! 09.Sep.2011 15:21

Intersting

I find it interesting that there are ridiculous attacks on this little meeting, that only PROVES that we are having a positive effect. I've known these people for a long time and there are not pro-nazi, if anything, they are the true anti-fascists. They use their real names and no not hid behind nameless blogs that make undocumentable accusations. But because they do, it only proves that we are having a real positive effect, or else why would they waste their time. We always ask for feedback because to ignore us drives us crazy, so in a kooky way it's our way of saying thanks for caring and thanks for sharing.

undocumentable accusations? 09.Sep.2011 18:18

question of calvert's fans

fritz WASN'T convicted of making setting off a bomb? calvert and others DIDN'T bring two holocaust deniers to portland? did you read the fritz wikilink damos posted?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Springmeier

"They use their real names and no not hid behind nameless blogs "
i'm sure after hosting 2 holocaust deniers and a religious extremist bomber, antifa or whoever will be rushing right out to give you their personal phone numbers....oh wait, they AREN'T as stupid as calvert/portland911wacky's think! imagine that!

more questions 09.Sep.2011 18:55

@FalseFlagUSA

your comment raises more questions than it answers. it sounds like you're involved in the event maybe you want to explain why calvert and the portland 911alliance thinks its a good idea to invite a convicted bomber to speak. unless you all believe(like many of fritz's fans do) he was framed by the fbi with the jewish illuminati? and is it true "professor" tim titrud is saying matthew shepard's murder wasn't a hate crime? like you said, let the truth be known.

Let's Get Real 10.Sep.2011 02:02

Damos(A)

The IXXI Truth movement has to a significant extent been hijacked and perverted by libertarian right-wing religious fanaticals who see some sort of supply-side "Satanic conspiracy" lurking behind every corner. David fucking Duke is supposedly a IXXI "Truther". So are many racist tea-baggers (funny how none of 'em spoke up until about three years ago). Do we REALLY need scumbags and rats like this on our side?! Also, IXXI conspiracies, well-founded or not, have been little more more than an excuse for alot of LONG-TIME anti-semites to blame Jews for everything nefarious.

The discussion in Sellwood is a great concept, for the most part. But unfortunately, it seems they're allowing space for christian zealots, anti-semites, and Nazi sympathizers. David Irving is certainly worth listening to. However, Fritz and Calvert (at least) should DEFINATELY be called out on their bullshit - especially Fritz!

Plus, the $35 door fee does seem steep and reeks of profitizing. Ralph Nader spoke for FREE here acouple of years ago. Noam Chomsky spoke during the same weekend for a fee, but you could still watch/listen to him FREE on monitors, live feed.

We were right, the event was well attended. 10.Sep.2011 21:33

Anti IsraHELL

We were right, the event was well attended and the anonymous attacks by the JDL and their small-minded minions had NO effect. I guess if I were defending some murderous thugs from IsraHELL I would be forced to lie about pro-nazi and other made-up silly attacks. Of course we were there, we have real names and real lives and are not hiding behind a computer. We pity you but understand you psychosis and realize you are all sociopaths at heart and sad little people in the flesh. I'm glad that you didn't give your names, we really can't help you unless you realize you need help. So keep posting your childish remarks, they are humorous considering this how you spend your worthless lives.

who's "we"? 10.Sep.2011 21:49

?

care to answer any of the questions people asked here?

*crickets* 11.Sep.2011 00:03

*tumbleweed*

anyone?

1984=911 11.Sep.2011 15:58

jb

George Bush returns to Booker Elementary School to talk to the kids to get a little PR. After his talk he offers question time.

One little boy puts up his hand and George asks him his name.

"Stanley," responds the little boy.

"And what is your question, Stanley?"

"I have three questions. First, why are you President when Al Gore and John Kerry got more votes? Second, why did you just keep reading that book about pet goats? And third, why was Cheney there holding your hand and the Commissioners weren't allowed to take notes?"

Just then, the bell rings for recess. George Bush informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.

When they resume George says, "OK, where were we? Oh, that's right: Question time. Who has a question?"

Another little boy puts up his hand. George points him out and asks him his name.

"Bobby," he responds.

"And what is your question, Bobby?"

"Actually, I have five questions. Why are you President when Al Gore and John Kerry got more votes? Second, why did you just keep reading that book about pet goats? Third, why was Cheney there holding your
hand and the Commissioners weren't allowed to take notes? Fourth, why did the recess bell go off twenty minutes early? And fifth, what the hell happened to Stanley?"