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Do we need a militant movement to save ourselves and the planet

Alternet is sort of a softer progressive magazine so it was surprising to find this article here today. It discusses a new book which is out which discusses violence as a means to stop corporate destruction.
Alternet says the book has more points to make than violent revolution and that the authors make the point that given the scale of corporate destruction, to sit and do nothing endangers the lives of everyone on the planet. Alternet says the book is worth looking at for the data whether or not you agree with violence (which is more than property destruction).

The data in the book is sobering.

The authors share too, some novel ideas in their book on how to undo some of this corporate destruction which relate to permaculture. There are other ideas like the idea of community enforced areas like "rape free zones." No matter your opinion on violence, or even if you have an opinion, it is a good read.

 link to www.alternet.org

DGR is not a realistic alternative 08.Aug.2011 01:19


I agree that we do need a militant movement to destroy capitalism and save the planet, but I would also argue that the methodology and outlook being put forth by Deep Green Resistance (DGR) doesn't offer a realistic strategy or analysis to bring about positive social change (ie destroy capitalism and all of it's oppressive social relationships). DGR downplays the importance of social revolution and mass struggle, in favor authoritarian urban guerillaism and minority terrorism. DGR also ignores the historical and material importance of class in not only understanding the functioning dominant power structure, but also it's importance in how we struggle against it. It's not enough to just be pro-militancy or pro-violence tactically, without a revolutionary analysis and strategy based upon the mass movements of the working class, our militancy is nothing more then posturing at best. I think it is important to be critical of the mainstream environmental movement and other leftist dogmas, but DGR isn't the alternative we need.

I know it may sound cliche but I will post a link to the essay You Can't Blow Up A Social Relationship, and although I don't agree with all of it's conclusions, I think that many of it's criticisms can be applied to DGR.


Different fight? 08.Aug.2011 05:04

Mike Novack

"....Deep Green Resistance (DGR) doesn't offer a realistic strategy or analysis to bring about positive social change (ie destroy capitalism and all of it's oppressive social relationships)...."

Perhaps that is true, "Red", but for "deep greens" capitalism is an INCIDENTAL target. Many/most deep greens might beleive that there are no possible solutions to the ecological crisis that include capitalism and many might believe that there are reasons to oppose capitalism for OTHER than ecological reasons, but few of them beleive that JUST doing away with capitalism would do very much toward getting us humans back intot ecological balance with the rest of the environment.

PLEASE -- I am not saying that it isn't possible to be both red and green. Just that "redness" in no way, shape, or form correlates to "greeness". Improving fairness between humans is a worthy cause but humans could among themselves be perfectly fair but together continue to trash the ecosystem. You shouldn't have to search very far for quotes describing the "red" vision along the lines of how once the revolution is won we will togetyher exploit nature for the benefit of all instead of just the few.

Allies perhas - your draftees, never.

Does the world really want to be saved? 08.Aug.2011 05:26


Forget the politics of the day as to who is right or wrong as to their approach, but just look at the results. Most Americans are not willing to sacrifice their own comfort and standing to help their grandchildren.
I'm not questioning your commitment but protests, direct action, etc. Have only one real goal, and that is to educate the masses of a certain issue. Based on news of the last few months, it would seem most Americans are aware of the problem, but would gladly trade all of their tomorrows for one single yesterday.