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Video: Stop and Ask - Your Rights and the Police Friendly Conversation

This video is an out-take form a longer video filmed in Portland on 10/05/10.
I included in this clip the topic of the police stopping you in public to have a friendly *talk.
This video is on "your citizens rights" when being stopped on a sidewalk (and not driving).
This video explains from the police's own words what they are trying to do and what "you can do"
Your Rights and the Police
Your Rights and the Police
The footage in this video was presented to the Portland Police's "Citizen Review Committee and the Police review Board on Oct 5 2010 in the city hall chambers.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsAEpwQoHno

These meeting are open to the public and I have recorded all of them so far, I have been posting them on Portland Indymedia and on my Website.  http://www.joe-anybody.com/id157.html (look to right side of page)

Showing your ID or "consenting to a search" which you are "not" obligated to do, are the points in this out-take video clip. Unless your under some kind of level of investigation, and are being arrested or detained for questions, in that case you will not be "Free to Go" and you will need to provide ID to them.

In my recent encounter when I was filming a vigil/protest, and was asked to show my ID, had I been moving (rather than stationary) or felt a bit more threatened by the questions ...I could have said. "I do not want to talk with you and am I free to Go?" [Key words] AM I FREE TO GO?

The police can not "block you or stop you or place themselves in front in a way of "authority" if they are (only) talking with you in this friendly manner".

As mentioned in this video, the police are able to ask questions that are casual like any citizen might ask or say in public to one another. But the question should not be *making you feel "uncomfortable". [key point]

I would suggest (my own thought here)if your uncomfortable with the questions or how this casual talk is going, simple stat: "I feel uncomfortable with these questions and do not want to have a conversation with you, am I free to go?"

My recent situation with a Homeland Security Policeman over this very same ID check charade was video recorded here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwSv2jHZ5pU

When the police are asking you friendly questions (fishing) (pre-text snooping) you do not have to answer nor talk with them. Besides just being silent, --> You should always ask "Am I free to go or are you detaining me?"
If they (friendly) ask "Can I look in your bag or pockets?" you politely say "No thank You, I do not consent to a search".

Worse case and if detained say "I want to speak with my lawyer" and say "I want to remain silent" NOTHING else should be said.

The caveat to [video] filming your interaction is that you now have a record of the conversation, otherwise if there turns out to be a "she said he said" situation/violation, with only your word over theirs, you will usually loose. Your video is the evidence needed.

This shorter version was from Day 1 tape 2 - the full version is in two parts here:

[1]  http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceTrainingDay1Part2&reCache=1
[2]  http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceTrainingDay1Part2

Any information you give: Can and WILL be used against you

homepage: homepage: http://www.joe-anybody.com/id157.html


Related Tips 06.Nov.2010 16:36

ben waiting

General guidance for dealing with the police

1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you badmouth a police officer.

2. You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. Otherwise, you don't have to answer any questions if you are detained or arrested, with one important exception. The police may ask for your name if you have been properly detained, and you can be arrested in some states for refusing to give it. If you reasonably fear that your name is incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, which may be a defense in case you are arrested anyway.

3. You do not have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT.

4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police, as you you can be arrested for it.

Remember:
Think carefully about your words, movement, body language, and emotions.
Do not get into an argument with the police.
Anything you say or do can be used against you .
Keep your hands where the police can see them.
Do not run. Do not touch any police officer.
Do not resist even if you believe you are innocent.
Do not complain on the scene or tell the police they are wrong or that you are going to file a complaint.
Do not make any statements regarding the incident.
Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.
Remember officer badge & patrol car numbers .
Write down everything you remember ASAP.
Try to find witnesses & their names & phone numbers.
If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.

If you feel your rights have been violated, file a written complaint with police department internal affairs division or civilian complaint board, or call the ACLU hotline, 1-877-6-PROFILE.

All six das of police training video clips 21.Dec.2010 17:27

Joe Anybody

All The Training links are here for the 6 days of Police training for the IPRC an dthe CPRC


Portland Police Training
"Use of Force"

An open to the public training session from the city and the police on the use of force and other police training subjects .
This is day one of six days (Held on Tuesdays)
Total of 6 to 7 sessions presented (Oct / Nov 2010)
Held in Portland City Hall Chambers 6-9 PM

10.5.10
Day 1 - Tape 1
 http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceTrainingDay1Part1PortlandOregonOct52010

Day 1 - Tape 2
 http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceTrainingDay1Part2&reCache=1




10.12.10
Day 2 - Tape 1
 http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceTrainingDay2Part1-Oct112010
Day 2 - Tape 2
 http://www.archive.org/details/PortlandPoliceTrainingDay2Part2-Oct112010




10.19.10
Day 3
part 1 & 2 combined onto - only 1 tape
 http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceTrainingDay3PortlandOregonOct192010





10.26.10
No Session
This week was skipped





11.2.10
Day 4
part 1 & 2 combined onto - only 1 tape
Less Lethal Use Of Force  link to www.archive.org



11.9.10
Day 5 - Tape 1
The police training - filmed in 2 parts
 http://www.archive.org/details/PortlandPoliceTrainingDay5Nov92010Part1Of2
Day 5 - Tape 2
 http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceTariningDay5Nov92010Part2Of2





10.16.10 coming soon
Day 6 - Tape 1
 http://www.archive.org/details/PortlandPoliceTrainingDay6Nov162010Part1

Day 6 - Tape 2
 http://www.archive.org/details/PortlandPoliceTrainingDay6Nov162010part2




(most of these video files you can "stream" on Archive .org a couple you will have to "download" to watch)