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The Lone Vet, Free Speech, Portland Police, APAIC, and the Lawsuit

The Lone Vet is now in court, this time he is not defending himself. It is reversed, he is charging the Portland police with interfering with his rights. (free speech) And it is they who will be defending themselves and their cozy relation ship with APAIC lobby group.
The Lone Vet  Arrested  2009 APAIC driveway crossing
The Lone Vet Arrested 2009 APAIC driveway crossing
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Joe Walsh known also as "The Lone Vet" is going to be in court this week.

The first day in court is today (Tuesday 8.17.10)
He will be back Wednesday and Thursday.
Joe was arrested at a 2009 APAIC fundraiser, for crossing the driveway
(While using the sidewalk)

Here is a 2 min video out-take of The Lone Vet getting arrested by the Portland Police at the APAIC fundraiser.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNCUawwI4YE

He was arrested by the Portland police.

To see a short video on "what / who is APAIC is"
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4nZnGukomA )

This unlawful arrest happened last year in around March 2009.

The DA prosecuted but lost and now the tide has turned.
Joe is now, taking the city to court over the fact that they (Portland Police) were unlawfully involved in holding him in custody and denying him from asserting his "right to free speech".

The start of the trial is 9:00 AM on Tuesday, August 17 we all will know more of the scheduling of witnesses etc after a full day in court today.

This hearing will be going for a few days, info will be posted here on Portland Indymedia

We now have a courtroom, the trial against the city for Joe's arrest at the AIPAC fundraiser, ) is in Rm 518 and the Judge is named Hon. John Wittmayer.
The well known (peace and justice advocate) Kafoury Law Firm is representing Joe.

Any solidarity is appreciated. More information on this trial will be posted right here as it develops.


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What is "their cozy relation ship with APAIC lobby group"? 17.Aug.2010 17:00

notabigot

Do you believe that AIPAC was responsible for the Portland police misbehavior in this case? If a Muslim group had held a conference and the same thing happened, would the Muslim group have been responsible?

Portland police, in case you haven't noticed, are often involved in unconstitutional violations of protesters' rights. Is AIPAC responsible for all of that? Was it AIPAC that caused your own arrest for photographing the police?

You need to examine your own and your allies' (lack of) consciousness in order to elevate the discourse.

Tuesday Report 17.Aug.2010 22:10

Joe Anybody iam@joe-anybody.com

On Wednesday morning The Lone Vet <Joe Walsh> will be the first on the witness stand.

Tuesday's actions were highlighted by the inconsistencies of the representative of the Middleman Center, it was obvious to all except (her) that her recollections were, to be charitable, less than truthful.

The defense seems to hang on the testimony of the police, they, all in lock step say that the protesters were stopping cars (?) from going in and out of the center, that the protesters were banging on cars with their signs, even Sargent Nice's car. Can you imagine what would have happened if people were banging their signs on Nice's car, would he get out and shoot everyone or just beat them to death?

Tomorrow the Lone Vet will be the first witness on the stand and we expect some fireworks during his testimony. The cops will also probably testify how fearful they were of this non violent group.

For those who were at both protests in 2009 and 2010 you noticed a big change in the way the police acted, there was no closing off of the sidewalk, protesters were in the driveway and using the age old sign of protest of chalking was allowed to write their message across the driveway; big difference from 2009.--we have already won!

If you can go to the court on 4th street at 9:00 AM and show some support and solidarity.
(possible rm# Rm 518)

Line of Separation 17.Aug.2010 22:29

Jackson

I don't think APAIC is clean and insulated. I see a level of tolerance and even possible provocateurness when I look over the videos. I see that they "used" (paid) the law to perform a duty. They authorized the activities of the aggressors (police) and allowed their (dirty) money to buy them selves into this cozy(ugly) relationship.

hmmm?

Speaking of "(lack of) consciousness" from how I see this APAIC lobby group they are pretty cozy with lots of ugly doings.

red herring? 18.Aug.2010 14:10

notabigot

No one here is saying nice things about AIPAC, which is a despicable, racist organization. The question is how you can blame AIPAC for continuous vicious police misconduct, including the arrest of the Lone Vet. I have been asking this question ever since this arrest happened, and I have yet to hear a cogent answer. The only people I've heard anything from are obvious anti-Semites who want to blame zionists, neocons and Jews for every crime under the sun.

So Jackson, explain why you think AIPAC's "provocateurness" (a word that suggests that the level of your understanding matches your thesis) caused a corrupt police department to make an arrest that they otherwise would not have made.

Incidentally, I am not only a political activist who has been arrested many times, but a longtime supporter of Palestinian and Lebanese rights. I abhor AIPAC, but I view the willingness to blame Jewish-dominated organizations for U.S. crimes as bigotry.

hmmm?

What and Why 18.Aug.2010 14:31

Jackson

Mr. Walsh is suing the Portland Police, for false arrest (not for violating his 1st amendment)

They charge him with "Interfering with a police officer" & "Failure to obey a lawful order"

They could of cited him on the spot, but choose to arrest, cuff (and the cuffs were too tight, which they did nothing to correct) and then book him, and release him at the downtown central precinct. The all claim they were just doing their jobs and what they were told their directives were. (We have all heard that before)

He never did block nor stop any vehicles from entering the parking lot.

When he was free to go from the short time that he was kept in jail, he was released (dumped) downtown with his belongings (including oxygen bottle which was about to run out)

When asked how the booking sheriffs acted towards him, he replied "with respect, they were just doing their jobs"
When asked how the Portland Police treated him, he replied "terrible, they were rude, mean, angry and disrespectful"
When he asked how he felt now about protesting, he replied "the Portland Police scare me, I'm in fear but I wont stop protesting"

(just a general statement) - The defense was very objectionable to having any information spoken to the jury regarding "why" Mr. Walsh is protesting or what his reasons were to protest that day, (APAIC) being at the Jewish center. They nixed (objected) to a lot of the background and logic as to "why he was protesting". It is obvious they didn't want any logic as to why this protest was happening or why people were motivated to speak up, known to the jury.

This case will proceed into this afternoon and then again tomorrow 8.19.10
It is on Floor #5 in the courthouse on 4th street in room 518

WW has an article on Page 5 about this case in todays weekly addition.

The Law "breaking the law" 18.Aug.2010 15:14

shame tosee

stupid cops do this all the time to people
most people don't fight back, they take their lickin and leave


my my hey hey
looks like 250 thousand going his way

the moral of the story "protesters have rights"
break the law & you will pay, cops broke the law, now they pay

directives 18.Aug.2010 19:42

Jackson

notabigot asks - "So Jackson, explain why you think AIPAC's "provocateurness" (a word that suggests that the level of your understanding matches your *thesis) caused a corrupt police department to make an arrest that they otherwise would not have made"

OK - how about I put my *thesis this way:
APAIC uses the Middleman facility, who in turn hires the police who in turn crank out the pressure on the protesters. Meanwhile middleman staff, various local government security branches, APAIC security, APAIC staff, Facility operation managers and their assistants, plain clothes undercover officers, all collaborate while "no one takes the blame or responsibility"

The Facility is directing the police, yet the facility is not in the lawsuit, because Judge Breithaupt dismissed the Middleman facility as defendants in this case. Of course it is just the police who were following their directives (?) But who really wanted this type of security pressure etc? Who really is "directing"?

There were that day, unknown non protesters around some of the protesters, messing with them, like being rude, blowing smoke in people face's (blatantly) and trying to provoking a rise by their actions or their verbal threats. There was at least one man from APAIC security walking in the street and back in forth (in video) who was taking close up, face shot pictures. He was allowed free roam with no policing or "required following the law" which was being levied to the folks on the sidewalk. This man Exempt from following the law) in fact did block traffic AND worked for APAIC or the Jewish council or someone important like that (I don't recall exactly, at this moment).

The fact that "clear the driveway order" was coming from inside the facility, to the police, sure leads my level of understanding to know this is more than a cop making a bad call.

To throw the "bigot" term around so loosely as you do, is really almost an oxymoron when you keep using it in your comments. For I was not just blaming a Jewish-dominated organization (for U.S. crimes) for the pure sake of being Jewish-dominated! Let Us Be Clear On That!

Speaking for myself, I am blaming APAIC <and> the Middleman facility, where they had their gathering hosted for being involved in this all along, whereupon they hired some cops to do their front end policing. It really follows the thesis of the "shit rolls down hill" theory in reverse.

Can I find that direct order, probably not.
Will only the police get the blame? Probably.

Is this the best that you bigots can do? 19.Aug.2010 09:44

notabigot

Re: "This man Exempt from following the law) in fact did block traffic AND worked for APAIC or the Jewish council or someone important like that (I don't recall exactly, at this moment)."

Before you try to debate someone, you should try to know who and what you're talking about.

Re: "To throw the 'bigot' term around so loosely as you do, is really almost an oxymoron"

I recommend that you look up the word "oxymoron" so you understand what it means before you use it.

I could go on, but I think your screed proves my point.

Oh, and Jackson: You're a bigot, just like the morons who call Obama a secret Muslim or who think Blacks are dominating the country. Of course, you fit right in with your allies.

Judge throws case out 19.Aug.2010 11:46

Joe Anybody

The judge tossed this case on the third day
No need for a Jury
No constitutional protection
No justice
It could / might be appealed ?

not abigot 19.Aug.2010 11:48

is a bigot

trolling, ranting, and then resorting to name calling tsk tsk

to the Bigot "notabigot" 19.Aug.2010 12:02

Jackson

Hey you are a Bigot ..... signing your name that you are not is not an oxymoron it is a LIE!

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RE: Re: "This man Exempt from following the law) in fact did block traffic AND worked for APAIC or the Jewish council or someone important like that (I don't recall exactly, at this moment)."

Before you try to debate someone, you should try to know who and what you're talking about.

Hey bigot --> **Walsh's lawsuit also points out that police allowed Ismail Khaldi, Israel's deputy consul in San Francisco and the dinner's main speaker, to cross the driveway and block traffic on a public street while photographing protesters.
**(  http://wweek.com/editorial/3641/14402/)

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RE: Oh, and Jackson: You're a bigot, just like the morons who call Obama a secret Muslim or who think Blacks are dominating the country. Of course, you fit right in with your allies.


Seeing you want to make idiot comment like this to me, when I am trying to have a dialog with you, I will no longer be involved in conversation with you and 'your ilk". I generally ignore bigots who think they are "above the rest of society". I (now) regret even trying to communicate with you. Your a jerk!

AIPAC loves you 19.Aug.2010 13:19

notabigot

AIPAC loves those who exaggerate their power and hates those who minimize it.

Why?

Because their fund-raising and organizing depends on their seeming to have super-human powers. So those who say, e.g., that "the lobby" is more powerful than the military-industrial-complex, or more powerful than the oil lobby, are valuable assets to AIPAC rather than enemies.

AIPAC hates Massad, Chomsky, Klein, Zunes, and Finkelstein (and me); and they love the bigots who regularly post their delusions on indy.

Regarding the judge's decision: I think that the attempt to make AIPAC a central issue in this case was counter-productive. I always thought Walsh would win on First Amendment grounds, and I'm disappointed that the police won a victory here.

Video: The Provocateurs at the APAIC event 24.Aug.2010 19:28

joe anybody

i was given this video from 3.29.09 at the APAIC event at the Jewish center
it shows a part of what was going on that day, as some of the political folks were prevented from moving freely, these jerks with name tags roamed around messing with people.


basically this short clip shows some of the Provocateurs who were obvious from the event, trying to intimidate the protesters out on the public sidewalk.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Hek0bwOtw