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Sunnyside Neighborhood Meeting On Proposed Clearwire Cell Tower at SE Yamhill & 29th Ave.

Portland citizens are meeting to oppose placement of cell towers in our neighborhoods.
Show your support by attending these important community events.
All are open to the public.
July 12th (Monday), 7:30 Clearwire neighborhood meeting for the proposed Sunnyside Neighborhood cell tower on SE Yamhill and 29th Avenue, hosted by the Sunnyside Land Use and Transportation Committee. Meeting at Southeast Uplift Coalition building at 3534 SE Main St.

There are more cell towers planned for other neighborhoods as well. Portland Indymedia has received several news wire posts about the detrimental effects of these towers in particular and cell phone usage in general.

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does it make sense for anyone who 12.Jul.2010 16:16

?

uses a cell phone to go to the meeting?

To ? 12.Jul.2010 16:47

Relay

Good question. "Does it make any sense for someone with a cell phone to attend this meeting?

I think it would. Technology is one thing; extravagantly ramping up that technology and, say, replacing existing telephone poles with much more invasive, unsightly and harmful cell towers is another..................

Cell phone, like computers, are an evil, though they have become a necessary evil for many people.
That doesn't mean we should encourage, allow or even tolerate the escalation of this technology. If the usage of the automobile stayed at the level of say, the 1930's, and rose slowly, we wouldn't be in the spot we are now.
If technology moves at a slower pace, the community has time to recognize it's impacts and demand changes from manufacturers and government.

The technology is here; we can't do anything about that. What we can do is strive to protect the community from unchecked and unscrupulous growth.

yes, that's my question... 12.Jul.2010 17:36

questions

I don't know how this technology works. So if I use a cell phone by a company, and then they need to put in another cell tower because other people in the area also want to buy a cell phone by that company (Do more cell phones mean there have to be more towers to handle the traffic, or is it just for better coverage and clearer reception for the area?) - how can I complain? Because if I have a cell phone, how can I protest a tower in my neighborhood? It wouldn't be fair if it went in someone else's neighborhood just because I didn't want it in mine, if I'm still using it - that would be pushing the problem on them (of course they all have cell phones too).

Went to the Meeting 13.Jul.2010 08:08

Jim Lockhart

Which consisted of a Clearwire representative making a brief presentation and then during the ensuing Q & A, basically thumbing his nose at the community.
Many times during the meeting citizens complained that proper notice of the meeting was not given. Consequently, few people attended, about a dozen or so, and I was the only one outside their neighborhood, other than the Clearwire rep.

Apparently the City has already provided cell phone and wireless internet industries with the necessary access and permission to erect microwave towers throughout the city, including in residential neighborhoods.
I say microwave towers, because Clearwire is a high speed internet service, not a cell phone company. I believe they both use microwave technology to carry their respective signals. This is still somewhat murky to me, so anyone who has information about this.............

What I did gather from the meeting is that these towers do emit microwave pollution and noise into the neighborhoods, quite possibly whether they are in close proximity to residential areas or along major thoroughfares.

Another thing I got out of this meeting was that these meetings are merely a matter of form, and that it's basically between the City government and industry.
The Clear Wire representative stated that they intend to erect about 400 towers in Portland, only 20 of which will be in neighborhoods. They intend to replace existing power poles with their technology, metal poles up to 40% higher than the original power poles.

And it's quite possible, maybe even probable, that other wireless companies AND cell phone companies will also seek to raise their own towers throughout the city as well.

This representative gave, or at least seemed to me to be trying to give, the impression that they really didn't need the permission or the good will of the neighborhoods in which they intended to erect these towers and that they will hold the meetings as required and then continue with their scheduled activities. If this is true, that's even more reason to rise up, organize and find ways to stop them.

Many of us use this technology, whether or not we subscribe or will subscribe to Clear. Yet it is growing too fast and will soon engulf our culture, as did the automobile, the micro chip and our dependency on unsustainable forms of energy. Now is the time to slow down the rampant, unchecked spread of this possibly harmful technology.
Not only is it possibly dangerous, but the attitude of this company reeks of corporate privilege and disregard for the health and well being of the communities in which they intend to wring their profits.

It will be much more difficult if not impossible to slow this technology down later on down the road. Witness our dilemma with petroleum, and the grief caused by allowing our dependence on this resource to mushroom unquestioned and unchecked.

I don't know what the next step should be, but certainly these though these towers will provide faster and better access to the internet, they are not a good thing.

Original Post is Factually Incorrect 13.Jul.2010 17:43

No Proof of Detrimental Effects

The article speaks to the so called "detrimental effects" posted previously here on PDX IMC. I posted on one of the first articles pointing out that there is no evidence that this is the case. In fact scientific studies have largely proven the opposite. While some studies show an extremely minor correlation with adverse health effects causation has largely been ruled out. Now, of course we can't say for sure what the long term effects of living with cell phones is, because they have not existed for a long enough time to draw a conclusion either way. There is also an argument to be made as to whether we want these not very esthetically pleasing eye sores to be in our neighborhoods. However, to continue to spread misinformation about the (at best) inconclusive connection between health and cell towers does nothing but causes panic where there is none. Here is a great article written by, the assistant professor and Director of General Neurology at Yale University School of Medicine, Steven Novella: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=5207#more-5207

to "No Proof......." 13.Jul.2010 19:02

Jim Lockhart

While you are entitled to your opinion, there are others who disagree. Here's a link on the Respectpdx website which provides abundant reference to these studies...........

 http://www.respectpdx.org/research/


Many studies are given:

From Powerwatch.org:

 http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/science/studies.asp

The U.K. nonprofit, Powerwatch, has assembled an excellent list of scientific papers on EMF health effects. There are currently 971 studies on the list, including 35 studies specifically on "mobile phone masts" (UK parlance for cell towers). The list include studies that found a significant health effect and studies that did not. (Of the 971 studies, 652 found a significant health effect, 138 did not, and 181 "offered important insights or findings but is neither a positive or null finding.")



Another good group of independent, peer-reviewed studies is assembled in the August 2009 EMF Special Issue of the journal Pathophysiology. (Click the "Open All Previews" link near the top of the page to open all abstracts at once.)

 link to www.sciencedirect.com



As has happened in other industries (tobacco, for example), research funded by the wireless industry finds dramatically less evidence of negative health effects from RF radiation than does independent research. Two useful articles on this problem are available here ( link to www.microwavenews.com)


Believing is Seeing


There is a difference between opinion and fact 13.Jul.2010 19:31

"No Proof..."

Jim, the argument that the industry studies are biased is a logical fallacy. I could just as easily state that the studies that you posted are biased in the opposite direction as they were funded by anti-cell tower groups. The one cite whose URL didn't proclaim this bias, sciencedirect, threw a malicious content warning on my browser.

However, if you look at the whole of all of the studies, and then remove all of the studies where the research method is flawed (as outlined in Steven Novella's article linked above) one is left with a sample of studies that show no adverse health effect caused from exposure to cell phones.

This is not an opinion it is a scientific conclusion. For example, some may disagree that this post is on portland.indymedia.org, but the fact remains that it is. It is the same with the supposed adverse health effects of cell phone radiation. Some may believe that there is a connection between cell phones and health, but there is no factual evidence to support that position. There is only blind faith.

Road Kill, Clearwire Declares War on Portland 02.Aug.2010 22:30

David Ehm morrisonbooks@gmail.com

More information about the biological effects of non-ionizing radiation from wireless technology is coming out every day. Enough is not being done by cities, counties, states and the Federal Government to protect us from the potentially devastating health and environmental effects. Through the 1996 telecommunications act the telecoms are shielded from liability and oversight. Initially cell phones were released with no pre-market safety testing despite the fact the Government and the Military have known for over 50 years that radio frequency is harmful to all biological systems (inthesenewtimes dot com/2009/05/02/6458/.). Health studies were suppressed and the 4 trillion dollar a year industry was given what amounts to a license to kill.
On it's face, the 1996 telecommunications act is unconstitutional and a cover-up. Within the fine print city governments are not allowed to consider "environmental" effects from cell towers. They should anyway! It is the moral and legal obligation of our government to protect our health and welfare? Or is it? When did this become an obsolete concept? A cell tower is a microwave weapon capable of causing cancer, genetic damage & other biological problems. Bees, bats, humans, plants and trees are all affected by RF & EMF. Communities fight to keep cell towers away from schools yet they allow the school boards to install wi fi in all of our schools thereby irradiating our kids for 6-7 hours each day. Kids go home and the genetic assault continues with DECT portable phones, cell phones, wi fi and Wii's. A tsunami of cancers and early alzheimer's await our kids. Young people under the age of 20 are 420% more at risk of forming brain tumors (Swedish study, Dr. Lennart Hardell) because of their soft skulls, brain size and cell turn over time. Instead of teaching "safer" cell phone use and the dangers of wireless technology our schools mindlessly rush to wireless bending to industry pressure rather than informed decision making. We teach about alcohol, tobacco, drugs and safe sex but not about "safer" cell phone use. We are in a wireless trance, scientists are panicking while young brains, ovaries and sperm burns. Clearwire has declared war on children, pregnant women, animals and plants and deserve urgent action to protect our lives.