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Major Anti-War Groups Staying Quiet About (Or Supporting) Obama’s Afghan Escalation

Don't look now, but President Obama's announcement today of an escalation in the American presence in Afghanistan is being met with mostly silence — and even some support — from the most influential liberal groups who opposed the Iraq War.
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It's another sign of the dramatic shifts in the political landscape caused by Obama's election and the economic crisis. Groups whose fundraising and membership exploded with their opposition to Bush's Iraq policies are adapting to a new world where public outrage is focused heavily on the economy and leading liberal groups suddenly have an inside track to the White House.

MoveOn.org, the most visible and controversial anti-war bugaboo to people on the right, declined to make any public statement about Obama's Afghan policies in response to my queries. An official close to the group confirmed to me that MoveOn wouldn't be saying anything in the near term. The group is expected to poll its members on Afghanistan, the official said, though it's unclear when.

MoveOn's own members were recently polled on their priorities for 2009, and Afghanistan didn't make the cut.

Nor will we hear anything from Americans United for Change, which ran $600,000 worth of TV ads against the Iraq War in the summer of 2007. "Americans United for Change doesn't plan to comment on President Obama's new strategy," a spokesperson for the group, Lauren Weiner, just emailed.

Jon Soltz, the head of VoteVets, one of the most pugnacious anti-Iraq War groups, came out in support of Obama's Afghan strategy in an Op Ed with The Huffington Post.

One group did blast the strategy today: Tom Andrews of Win Without War warned that it "will lead to quagmire" and "undermine our security."

The relative silence on the left about Obama's Afghan strategy is understandable. The politics of Afghanistan are murky because of September 11th. The argument against staying isn't as clear cut as with Iraq. Liberal groups don't want to distract from passing Obama's enormous domestic agenda. Obama's Afghan moves are part of a larger regional strategy that rests heavily on diplomacy — a major break from the past. And officials with some of these groups don't want to lose inside influence with the White House.

Times do change.

K 02.Apr.2009 21:56


blah blah blah.......... same old shit. fuckin liberals just being obedient little slaves. anti-war when it is the team they oppose, pro war when it is their own team.

the U.S. has no business being in other peoples countries and killing. that is called murder. it is wrong. it was wrong when Bush did it and it is wrong when Obama does it. but of course these goodie-goodie liberal types have always shown their true colors if you are ready to look. as the old saying goes, scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

J 02.Apr.2009 22:02


The people of the U.S. are remarkably obedient and oh so ignorant and poorly educated. That is why they can so easily be conned over and over. How easy it was for Democratic Party infiltrators to take over the anti-war movement. The Democratic Party has started move wars than the Republicans. People in this country got no savvy, and are self absorbed. More concerned with how they 'feel' than with any actual ethical position.

Nothing new 02.Apr.2009 22:59

Phil Ochs

All you need to know about the liberal position was summed up perfectly by singer/songwriter Phil Ochs in the late 60s.

Love Me, I'm A Liberal

I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

"The politics of Afghanistan are murky because of September 11th. " 02.Apr.2009 23:03


What if the remaining peace activists pounced on 9/11 truth? Nothing to loose, my friends.

Not liberal 03.Apr.2009 06:54

But very anti-war


Not liberal-antagonistic, either.

. 03.Apr.2009 10:15


"The politics of Afghanistan are murky because of September 11th. "

Actually, they are not murky. That is just some more smokescreen bullshit from the liars in DC. The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. The Taliban offered to hand over Osama Bin Laden to the international criminal court. The U.S. refused. Why? cause the U.S. wanted to attack for geo-politcal reasons (not to mention that the U.S. was upset that the Taliban stopped heroin production)

Liberals have no real ethical stand. They only really care about their own self image and social standing.

Can We "change" presidents? 03.Apr.2009 11:57


Cynthia McKinney For President: The Elephant In The Room  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PalVqU5vY

All we want is the truth. Why is that so wrong? Why is that so dangerous? Why are we supposed to be afraid all the time?

The peace movement by itself is not enough. I'm tired of all the lies. When are people going to demand the truth? When is it going to be the right time???"

. 03.Apr.2009 23:20


"  http://antiwar.com

Not liberal-antagonistic, either. "

They take their potshots too! But even if they did not, someone has to poke at the self righteous sanctimonious bullshit of the liberal mind. Just cause you are invested in thinking of yourself as 'good', doesn't make you so. The self entitlement and arrogance of the liberal mind is astounding.

Geithner Discusses Acting and Recovery ... 05.Apr.2009 17:13



This topic is not all about banking. They know they are in trouble, Worldwide, but
they are also trying to re-assure that they are willing to put recovery options in
place to turn their own house back into order.

It's like they addicts have taken over the Recovery Program, and the only Hope We have
is that means they are committed far above what We could hope for considering the scale
of the mess We are in

* * 07.Apr.2009 14:09


This shows how corrupt the major anti-war groups are.