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Automaker Production Must Shift From GasVees to Battery EVs.

The time for systemic change is now.
And lets be clear, the automaker's tendency to lump Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicles into the same category as Battery EVs, for the purpose of manipulating public policy outcomes and dollars, will not be tolerated.

General Motors has lately taken to blitzing the NPR listenership with their "Green Vehicle" advertisements: mentioning Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicles and Battery EVs in the same breath as if they were green fraternal twins. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Try making Hydrogen yourself and watch how quickly the electric bill goes up! Its uniquely energy inefficient.

If the automakers want to burn thru their remaining financial assets on fuel cell R&D, fine. But not one penny of taxpayer money shall be wasted on that endeavor.

There is no Green car. 29.Mar.2009 18:43

Exile portlander_in_exile@yahoo.com

I'm getting so tired of people pushing "Green Cars". There simply isn't any. There never will be one. the Automobile manufacturers are trying to squeeze one last gasp of wealth out of our society, and First, it will be Hydrogen vehicles. Guess what, the commercial hydrogen is derived from natural gas. Yes, Hydrocarbon fuels are converted to Hydrogen. It's a net loss of energy performance. It's the same with Ethanol vehicles. Ethanol fuels are derived from primarily corn, which is fertilized by what? Ammonium nitrate fertilizer. That is also derived from petroleum.

electric vehicles sound so nice. There is a downside though. Electricity must be pulled from the grid, and placed in a storage medium. These are often referred to as batteries. The batteries that are in current use, are manufactured with such wonderful products as mercury, cadmium, lithium and lead. These batteries typically have a lifespan of three years, with average use. Now imagine all those "expired batteries" being dealt with. Many of the elements are in limited supply, countering the belief that "once manufacturing reaches capacity" prices will come down. Nope, electric cars, just aren't going to be feasible for a "replacement automobile".

Also, what your asking people to do, is suddenly go out and buy a new car. That's not going to happen quickly either.

America's love affair with the car is coming to a close. The Honeymoon is over. It's time to really re-think how we all get around.

Perhaps that McMansion in the "burbs" wasn't such a good idea after all, now was it? Perhaps voting against electric rail, was a bad idea also.

Watch the film Who Killed the Electric Car. 30.Mar.2009 23:34


Wrong. there are plenty of electric cars. You are dealing with environmentally traitorous oil companies that buy up good electric batteries patents and refuse to sell them. You are dealing with a corrupt government that protects this arrangement. You are dealing with wholesale society organized to destroy your health and environment--while working technologies already exist.

Watch the film Who Killed the Electric Car.

Fully electric cars existed as mass production vehicles ten years ago.

From GM, Toyota, Honda, and Ford. All Electric vehicles. They refuse to make them anymore.