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Meeting tonight asking the public, "Should OHSU Security carry guns"

In today's daily rag, the Oregonian, appears an article titled, "OHSU Considers Guns for its Security Guards" with an announced meeting tonight to allow the public to weigh in on the issue. For concerned citizens who want to attend, the meeting is from 6 to 8 p.m. at University Place, 310 S.W. Lincoln St. in Portland.
Shockingly, the article opens by naming "protestors opposed to primate research" as among the random visitors to OHSU, (suggesting in the same sentence) who might lead to, "potentially more violence." That's weird, I thought it was these same peaceful protestors who wanted to END the violence already happening to thousands of animals BY OHSU? Maybe I just read it wrong?

Anyway, citizens might be wary to allow gun-toting OHSU Guards, considering some of the heavy-handed ways OHSU has reacted to visitors in the past. Please read this linked Indy story about what happened to one such visitor when she was invited by an OHSU office to come pick up some information about the animal research they do there. She was arrested; and the details about how OHSU behaved are downright bizarre.


Please consider attending this meeting tonight, especially if you have a story to tell about OHSU Security and how dangerous they could potentially be if they were given guns.

Meeting tonight, Thursday Oct 23rd!
6 to 8 p.m. at University Place, 310 S.W. Lincoln St. in Portland

You gotta be kidding me! 23.Oct.2008 18:32


This cannot be serious. Have they not been paying attention? First, there is no place on Pill Hill where a firearm would be anything but a serious threat to the hospital, patients, and staff. Second, look at what the rentacops with delusions of being coppers have done with the power that has already been conferred upon them: A patient at Oregon Health and Science University claims he got a double dose of harm at the hands of a doctor and security guards at the hospital.

According to a lawsuit filed in Multnomah County Circuit Court, Roy Jorgenson of Woodland, Wash., claims he was admitted to OHSU on Dec. 14, 2005, for total shoulder replacement surgery by Dr. Robert Orfaly.

Still recovering at the hospital two days after the operation, the lawsuit says Jorgenson was given 1,000 mg of insulin by the OHSU staff. Jorgenson is not diabetic and there was no reason to give him insulin, according to the lawsuit.

As a result of the insulin, the lawsuit says Jorgenson became severely hypoglycemic, disoriented and short of breath. Attempting to get some fresh air, he climbed onto a fire escape on the ninth floor and was confronted by security guards, the lawsuit says.

According to the lawsuit, "the security staff tazered (sic) plaintiff multiple times, tackled him to the ground, struck and kneed him numerous times, ripped his surgically repaired right shoulder out of a sling and placed his arms forcefully behind his back."

The lawsuit says Jorgenson suffered torn stitches, injury to his shoulder, bruised ribs, a bruised lung and Taser burns. Filed by attorney Mark Olmsted, the suit seeks $500,000 for pain and suffering plus unspecified medical expenses.

The suit names Orfaly and OHSU as defendants. OHSU spokesman Jim Newman told WWire he couldn't comment because of patient confidentiality laws. Orfaly has not yet returned a phone call seeking comment.

Finally, anyone who has ever had any dealings at all with these people cannot seriously consider that they be allowed to carry firearms. In fact, the history of small arms in the hands of security guards at the hospital tells the entire story.

Many years ago, in the late seventies, there was no proscription to the security guards carrying weapons. After a couple of fairly close calls, faculty and staff went to the administration and succeeded in having them banned. One fine officer, who obviously felt that this was a slight to his manly thing, proceeded to stage "sniper" attacks on several campus buildings during the night, with the highly cerebral plan that the faculty and staff would be so terrorized that they would beg the guards to carry guns. Some smart investigator noticed the smell of recently discharged firearms within the intrepid officer's patrol car, and his plan was derailed. My point? Cop wannabes are worse by far than cops, and much more lethal. Now, think about what the actual "trained" metropolitan coppers have accomplished in the way of murder with permission (anyone remember Fouad Kaady?), and you can see that it would be lethal to arm these folks.