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Our Republic Raped and Still No Revolution!

Time to stop crying and start the revolution
Our Republic Raped and Still No Revolution!

Joel S. Hirschhorn

Are Americans ready for a revolution? What worse than the current meltdown of the financial sector, the unraveling of our economy, and burdening us and future generations with astounding debt is needed to convince Americans that the two-party plutocracy has sold out ordinary Americans? What we are witnessing is far worse than the taxation without representation that spurred the American Revolution. Taxation with MISrepresentation is a greater evil and shameful sellout of democracy that so many Americans have fought and died for.

Yet, despite over 80 percent of Americans saying that the nation is on the wrong track - BEFORE the current financial crisis, Americans sheepishly seem ready and willing this year to keep voting for Democrats and Republicans. If they had one shred of the smartness and courage of our nation's Founders, they would overwhelmingly vote for third party presidential candidates to send the clearest and most patriotic message possible to the ruling class that has both major parties in their pocket.

Ousting Democrats and Republicans is more justified and needed than removing the tyranny of the King of England. Our elected domestic tyranny operating as a plutocracy masquerading as a democracy has been raping our nation. Yet middle class victims seem more than willing to keep bending over and asking for more pain and insult as they fall hook, line and sinker for the lies of both Barack Obama and John McCain.

It is far too easy, with the financial sector meltdown, for Americans to only blame Republicans. But Bill Clinton started the deregulation of the financial sector and every evil and stupid thing George W. Bush and Republicans have done could not have happened without the cooperation of corrupt and cowardly Democrats in Congress. They too have inflicted economic sodomy on us and contributed to disgracing our Constitution.

What incredible absurdity that the government seems ready to spend $700 billion to bail out countless crooked, mismanaged and greedy companies (and similar money on the Iraq war) and not ever seriously propose to spend that kind of money on rebuilding the nation's crumbling physical infrastructure that would immediately create millions of new good paying jobs desperately needed by the middle class.

Now is the time for Americans to wake up, stand up and vote down Republicans and Democrats. How wonderful it would be if the candidate that claims the presidency only receives, say, 20 percent of all eligible voters. This is the first necessary step for we the people to take back OUR country.

[Contact Joel S. Hirschhorn through www.delusionaldemocracy.com.]

Hello Joel. 22.Sep.2008 12:56

Exile portlander_in_exile@yahoo.com

I read through your site. I'm in 90% agreement.

But, Here's the problem:

First, our government is not run by the people. It's run by large corporations, financial interests, connected families and they're not going to let go of that control, no matter what. They will destroy this country, before letting it become a democracy.

from your site:

A number of electoral reforms are necessary to rescue American democracy:
1. Expand the use of Clean Money, Clean Election programs.
2. Provide a None of the Above option on ballots.
3. Permit fusion candidates to promote third-party candidates.
4. Reform the Electoral College or its use by states.
5. Provide Instant Runoff Voting.
6. Pass the "Our Democracy, Our Airwaves" federal law.
7. For primary elections, support an open or crossover primary that
favors third-parties.
8. Make voting compulsory after other reforms

These things WILL never happen. Period. These reforms represent a small threat to their power.

To get real reform, we have to starve the multi-national corporations, and bring them back down to size. I've outlined this in several of my posts.

If you want real election reform, pass a $20 of blood campaign law. That law would provide each blood human being with a $20.00 campaign contribution to a candidate. No corporations, unions, special interest group would be allowed to air ads, or contribute to any candidate, ever.

Just my $.02 comin' atcha.

No not yet 22.Sep.2008 13:58

lloyd Hart dadapop@dadapop.com

There are not enough homeless and starving yet. All real revolutions come from dispair not the policy differences of the middle and wealthy classes.

hey man i'm right there with ya 22.Sep.2008 21:40


i've been homeless, and "starving" i suppose, though even the most miserable wretch in the U.S. won't go more than a couple days without eating -- if you can walk eventually your reptile brain takes over and your feet walk wherever the goddamn soupline is, regardless of what other bullshit you thought you were worrying about -- anyway my point is it didn't feel very empowering

it's pretty hard to imagine the people sleeping on the sidewalks downtown as the vanguard that's gonna start fuckin' shit up and win

cross-class, cross-party, green majority across and within corrupt nation states 22.Sep.2008 21:59


Though I see him as an ally, I addressed Hirschorn's ideas below and dismissed then as currently unworkable in the U.S. situation as well:

Friday, June 15, 2007
POLLS: Article Five'ing the Bioregional State? Demographics of Political Upset in U.S. Approaching Constitutional Convention Support Levels

And the green version of totalitarianism is hardly workable:

Sunday, September 23, 2007
The Bioregional State and the Three Ring Circus of Big Tent Environmentalism

some other comments I wanted to comment on:

quote #1:

"These things [i.e., Hirschorn's ideas of just working through existing systems] WILL never happen. Period. These reforms represent a small threat to their power. To get real reform, we have to starve the multi-national corporations, and bring them back down to size."

Sure, that's one option, though it requires multi-faceted decentralization and reorienting many other checks and balances in state power and other institutions to keep it happening once more. So that it simply can be avoided in the future instead of it happening in another generation or so. Addressed below at the link.

We are faced with the fact thought that the current institutions in the USA are far from representative, they are becoming or are already forms of tyranny (with revocation of Bill of Rights, with vote fraud and nothing is done about it, with stolen presidencies, with illegal wars bankrupting the country without any Congressional oversight, with state-assassinated Senators (Wellstone), etc.), with "Jim Crow" returning, with bailing out corrupt Wall Street bankers with public funds, and leaving masses of homeless to fend for themselves, with the Democrats and the Republicans both parties of criminal drug lord elite money flows, centralized media full of governmental pronouncements, lies and omissions, etc.) Hirschorn thinks asking them to alter their institutions is an option. I sadly disagree. Though we have other options.

quote #2:

"There are not enough homeless and starving yet. All real revolutions come from dispair not the policy differences of the middle and wealthy classes."

Sometimes. Though nothing is automatic. Sometimes those with the most grievances and despair don't revolt at all. On the other hand, Orwell wrote that it was rising middle classes that tended to foment revolution instead of the low, the idea of 'relative deprivation' instead of wholesale deprivation.

Sometimes revolution is a wholesale change when even elites with peasants/citizens and many others are in agreement to wholesale change.

There are lots of factors of revolutionary activity. A class inequality issue might facilitate revolution though alone a lower class has never facilitated a revolution by itself. Allies are required and group change. Classes are split by ethnic issues, gender, etc., as well. There's very little support for class based revolutionary activity as well.

Perhaps you might like 'States and Social Revolutions' (1979).


Aya, Rod. 1987. "Popular Intervention in Revolutionary Situations." Pp. 318-43 in Statemaking and Social Movements: Essays in History and Theory, Charles Bright and Susan Harding, eds. Ann Arbor, Michigan: The University of Michigan Press.


perhaps we can admit the only real global majority is a combination of local concerns over health, local economies, and ecological protection. Even in the USA, 70-80% of the Republicans and Democratic followers still want their environmental laws strengthened while the 'hydra headed tyranny' of these two parties ignore their environmental localism interests studiously.

Sunday, February 19, 2006
The Local Wing of Politics: Progressivism isn't national left wing and conservatism isn't national right wing, both are local or nothing at all

The silent Green Majority is really already there. Some polls assembled about that below:

Whitaker, Mark. 2005. Toward a Bioregional State: A Series of Letters About Political Theory and Formal Institutional Design in the Era of Sustainability.

Wednesday, November 14, 2007
POLLS: Planet Earth Has Green Majority, Part Four

This is a continuing series of polls about global opinions and attitudes toward environmentalism. It shows that supermajorities of the world are in agreement already on environmental issues, and that a supermajority of the world considers their current forms of state doing poorly on getting to sustainability. This would be a good basis to achieve what the bioregional state promotes: green constitutional engineering to get to sustainability.

The previous three polls [1] [2] [3] showed a huge global agreement for greening politics and economics.

The argument of the bioregional state is that sustainability is unachievable without formal democratic institutional change (that would interact with other institutional additions in educational frameworks, local consumptive issues, and financial issues).

Other people have offered other methods to get to sustainability of course. What about these different methods to get there? Other routes are only indirect, susceptible to corruption, and have a history of backsliding.

First, however, the bioregional state argues that a single informal party is a poor strategy for change to sustainability. A single party can be corrupted like the fading greenness of Die Grunen in Germany (discussed at that link above).

Second, a single party it is a poor strategy for sustainability because support for greenness comes from across the left-right spectrum seen in above polls for global supermajorities supporting green politics. This makes a single informal party a poor strategy for mobilizing toward sustainability. It is perhaps ultimately self-defeating and self-divisive of the commonality of views on greenness to attempt to fit 'green' into one party framework. (That being said, I do support various forms of green parties however just without expecting that the model of political change for sustainability can ever be achieved by a singular party).

Third, the bioregional state argues that with so many solutions already in evidence though simply unapplied, it is unable to be said that there is a lack of solutions that is keeping sustainability from occurring.

On the contrary, it is political, economic, and technological corruption and gatekeeping against the massive supermajorities of the world that is keeping us from sustainability. Corruption is keeping us from living in representative democracies and maintaining a representative developmentalism. This corruption keeps us living within crony raw material regimes instead of arrangements more democratic and consumer-choice driven that would look closer to the commodity ecology arrangement instead of commodity arrangements that destroy the planet.

In existing democracies many conflicts of interest keep unsustainability in place. Only by creating additional formal 'ecological checks and balances' can we address these conflicts of interest and innately allow our political economies to be more directly 'in sync' with this global support for environmentalism, sound economics, and sound health practices.

To summarize, [1] unsustainability is corruption and conflict of interest. [2] This corruption is created by 'out of sync' formal institutional arrangements in states that create an informal gatekeeping on politics, instead of formal institutions creating representation in politics. [3] This gatekeeping and unrepresentativeness has a developmental effect toward environmental degradation and self-destruction [4] contrary to public support. [5] It is additionally contrary to polls showing sustainabilility to be the supermajority and popular concern of the world.

This is why the bioregional state approaches sustainability as requiring a more competitive democracy--to remove the informal corrupt gatekeeping frameworks to make the state a democratic institution 'in sync' with environmental concern, formally. The bioregional state would do this through over 60 additional 'ecological checks and balances'.

Our policies are so radically undemocratic and out of sync with public preferences in energy, technology, investment choices, and political parties 'in power'--because they are keeping out other parties from competition via corrupt vote regulations or voting methods that the bioregional state would solve. Gerrymandering is important for how corrupt, unsustainable states maintain themselves as well.

Getting over this morass of formal/informal corruption interactions requires identifying the many conflicts of interest in 'still incomplete' democracies that require more 'ecological checks and balances' to demote informal gatekeeping and unrepresentative developmental policies. Sustainability is a completed democracy with many additional checks and balances against formal and informal power corruption that would made developmental policy feedback automatically more represenative and ecologically sound.

Several other more technocratic or even genocidal methods have been proposed of course for sustainability. The book argues against these as well, from a green humanism point of view. From the book description:

"Toward A Bioregional State is a novel approach to development and to sustainability. It proposes that instead of sustainability being [fourth] an issue of population scale, [fifth] managerial economics, or [sixth] technocratic planning, an overhaul of formal democratic institutions is required. This is because environmental degradation has more to do with the biased interactions of formal institutions and informal corruption. Because of corruption, we have environmental degradation. Current formal democratic institutions of states are forms of informal gatekeeping, and as such, intentionally maintain democracy as ecologically "out of sync". The bioregional state argues that we are unable to reach sustainability without a host of additional ecological checks and balances. These ecological checks and balances would demote corrupt uses of formal institutions by removing capacities for gatekeeping against democratic feedback. Sustainability is a politics that is already here—only waiting to be formally organized."

Only additional formal 'ecological checks and balances' can bring our political economies 'in sync' with our already existing global support for environmentalism, sound economics, and sound health practices.


On that note, here are some polls from the 1990s that I found in a book by Peritore, Third World Environmentalism: Case Studies from the Global South (1999). With the other links to polls above, it shows a documentable and constant 70-80% global support for the past 15 years for sentiments that animate the bioregional state, as well as equally high numbers of the global population considering their current states illegitimate and to blame for unsustainability.

The rest of this post is a quote from Peritore's book (pp. 30-34):



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homeless sleeping on the sidwalks (clears throat) 22.Sep.2008 23:20

Ecotopian Yeti

We have that. In the summer and spring go downtown on any party night (Thursday night through Sunday morning) and as one wanders around watching the in-pour of suburban bachelorettes, horning middle class teenagers and the "lets see stripers" crowd then look to the far corners of Burnside. You know where the pinkish amber street lights fade into black. You know across from Dante's. You know just a block south of the Barracuda or the Colbolt Lounge. You will see what looks like over grown bean bag chairs. Those are people sleeping. And then look at all the people swallowing Soma, people working the night, people caught up in the moment of escape and almost everyone ignoring the human tragedy that is sleeping at their feet. But there is more than one tragedy. There is the tragedy of the illusion. There is the tragedy of the consumption and addiction to the illusion of momentary escape. There is the tragedy of economic enslavement and there is the tragedy of choosen ignorance. Then there is the tragedy of loosing our humanity and the tragedy of becoming commodity and the tragedy of becoming an object and then property and eventually lost property or damaged property.

Critical Mass 23.Sep.2008 05:30

Lloyd Hart dadapop@dadapop.com

Critical mass in suffering has to be reached before your going to see a serious challenge to power. "Power is" always "at the end of a barrel of a gun." The Military budget in the U.S. is now 528 billion. We will have to sink much further. The middle class especially and by a majority will have to be stripped of their financial security. But don't fret its coming. The bank that really matters, the ecological resources of this planet are over leveraged beyond any recovery any time soon and the super storms are a wreaking ball to the economy not to mention the cost of dealing with the super storm refugees. Record drought, record rain fall and flooding.

Hell the the corruption and collapse on wall st. and in washington seems minor compared to the collapse of resourse bank.

lkjsdf 23.Sep.2008 21:19


The middle class by definition is relatively secure and loyal to the system.

"Middle class" does not actually mean "average people." Think about the way the military works, one of the only places where class is right out on the table in front of everybody: 90% of the personnel are "enlisted." They are not middle class. The middle class is the officer corps. The civilian world works the same way but people pretend otherwise.

Perhaps after some disaster the "former middle class" could be radicalized.