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McCain's past makes him a Neocon puppet

Madsen has long been onto the elements of John McCain's past that make him unsuitable for anything but Neocon cheerleader. Please read, circulate and attribute to the Wayne Madsen Report.

From the article below~~

At the time of the Forrestal disaster, Admiral McCain (McCain's father) was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty, on June 8, 1967. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the 'family honor'-oriented (McCain's persona is supported by his book about his father and grandfather, both Navy admirals, titled 'Faith of My Fathers') and the 'straight talking' McCain.

The Bush administration and neo-cons may have uncovered reams of documents that throw cold water on that public perception.
January 30, 2008 -- With McCain as GOP frontrunner, time to return to Yankee Station and 1967

With Senator John McCain now heading to wrest the GOP presidential nomination, it is time to revisit his past and one of the darkest days in the history of the US Navy: 1967 and the USS Forrestal.

WMR's previous reports on McCain's direct involvement in causing the worst non-combat-related disaster in the history of the Navy has since been verified by a senior Naval officer who was assigned to the Naval War College.

"January 16, 2006 -- Why is John McCain so supportive of Bush and Cheney after being so viciously attacked by them in the 2000 campaign? The answer to this question may partially rest in Navy records detailing the events that took place on the USS Forrestal in 'Yankee Station' in the Gulf of Tonkin at the end of July 1967. The neo-cons, who have had five years to examine every file within the Department of Defense, have likely accessed documents that could prove embarrassing to McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to-ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.

According to an eyewitness to the Navy's worst fire disaster that killed 134 sailors and injured 62, McCain and the Forrestal's skipper, Capt. John K. Beling, were warned about the danger of using M-65 1000-lb. bombs manufactured in 1935, which were deemed too dangerous to use during World War II and, later, on B-52 bombers. The fire from the Zuni misfire resulted in the heavy 1000 pounders being knocked loose from the pylons of McCain's A-4, which were only designed to hold 500-pound bombs.

During the fighting of the fire and while VF-74 and VF-11 were still counting their dead, McCain was helicoptered off the Forrestal to the USS Oriskany, which suffered a major fire on October 27, 1966, that killed 44 sailors. In that event, thousand pound bombs were jettisoned away from the fire but the lessons of the Oriskany went unheeded by the Forrestal's officers, including McCain, who served with the VA-163 Saints on board the Oriskany when the fire on that vessel occurred. On October 26, 1967, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam during a bombing sortie from the Oriskany.

The unstable bombs had a 60-second cook-off threshold in a fire situation and this warning was known to both Beling and McCain prior to the disaster. On January 14, 1969, the USS Enterprise, steaming 75 miles southwest of Pearl Harbor, suffered a major fire. In that episode, similar unstable 1000-pound bombs detonated, killing 27 sailors and injuring more than 100. At the time of the Enterprise disaster, the Commander-in- Chief of US Pacific Forces was Adm. John S. McCain, Jr.,Sen. McCain's father.

At the time of the Forrestal disaster, Admiral McCain was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty, on June 8, 1967. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the 'family honor'-oriented (McCain's persona is supported by his book about his father and grandfather, both Navy admirals, titled 'Faith of My Fathers') and the 'straight talking' McCain.

The Bush administration and neo-cons may have uncovered reams of documents that throw cold water on that public perception."

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"November 20, 2007 -- More details emerge on McCain carrier incident.

WMR has learned additional details regarding the deadly fire aboard the Navy aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, on July 19, 1967 in the Gulf of Tonkin. The additional details point to then-Lieut. Commander John McCain playing more of a role in triggering the fire and explosions than previously reported.

On January 16, 2006, WMR reported that according to a U.S. Navy sailor who was aboard the Forrestal on the fateful day of the fire, 'McCain and the Forrestal's skipper, Capt. John K. Beling, were warned about the danger of using M-65 1000-lb. bombs manufactured in 1935, which were deemed too dangerous to use during World War II and, later, on B-52 bombers. The fire from the Zuni misfire resulted in the heavy 1000 pounders being knocked loose from the pylons of McCain's A-4, which were only designed to hold 500-pound bombs.' WMR further reported, 'The unstable bombs had a 60-second cook-off threshold in a fire situation and this warning was known to both Beling and McCain prior to the disaster.'

WMR also cited the potential that McCain's Navy records were used against him by the neocons in control of the Pentagon, 'The neo-cons, who have had five years to examine every file within the Department of Defense, have likely accessed documents that could prove embarrassing to McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to-ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.'

WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. 'Wet-starts', done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' apparently 'cooked off' and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration.

'Wet starting' was apparently a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots. McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). After the disaster, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.

As WMR previously reported, at the time of the Forrestal disaster, McCain's father, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated June 8, 1967, Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the 'family honor'-oriented McCain by the neocons.

WMR has also been informed by knowledgeable sources, including an ex-Navy A-4 pilot, the 'wet-start game' was a common occurrence. However, it is between 'very unlikely' and 'impossible' for the Forrestal 'wet start' to have been accidental. 'Wet starts' were later rendered impossible by automated engine controls."

A MSM report endorsing Madsen's report re McCain's folly... 06.Feb.2008 00:04

Styve

Bryant Jordan: Demand answers about the Liberty incident

01:00 AM EST on Tuesday, February 5, 2008

BRYANT JORDAN

WASHINGTON, D.C.

IN THE PAST YEAR, Congress has been busy defending the reputations of American service members.

Republicans pushed for a resolution condemning the now famous "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" ad. Democrats opened up a front against Rush Limbaugh after he asserted that some of those who criticize the Iraq war were actually "phony soldiers."

Meaningless antics.

If senators and representatives want to take up an issue that has insulted service members and their families, they can look at the Liberty, an American spy ship that was strafed, napalmed and torpedoed by Israeli air and naval forces on June 8, 1967, as it sailed in international waters [during the Six-Day War between Israel on one side and Egypt, Jordan and Syria on the other]. Thirty-four American men died in the incident; at least 173 were wounded.

For 40 years politicians have dodged this issue by relying on the Naval Court of Inquiry report that concluded that it was all a mistake. But that report never held much water. It ignored most of the testimony of the survivors. The last drop turned to vapor more than five years ago when its legal adviser, retired Capt. Ward Boston, told me the court's work was a sham to cover up the truth.

Since then I found copies of Navy telegrams to the Liberty deads' next-of-kin, in which the Navy had labeled the incident an accident even before the court convened. Anyone who knows or can even imagine military policy on death notification will find this more than strange.

More recently, reporter John Crewdson, in the Chicago Tribune, reported that the National Security Agency intercepts of the Israeli pilots' communications during the attack left no doubt that Israel knew that it was attacking an American ship. Crewdson, relying on recently declassified NSA records and interviews with people with first-hand knowledge of the intercepts, tells a story that backs up the survivors' long-dismissed claims.

Why investigate a 40-year-old incident? These Americans were serving their country, and they and their families deserve better than to be disregarded because their claims may embarrass a country with close connections to the U.S. or because its American supporters wield a lot of political clout.

And if American deaths of 40 years ago can be ignored, does the same hold true for deaths today or tomorrow? You would think that at a time when politicians are so quick to defend the honor and integrity of living service members and veterans, some might decide it's time to ask some long overdue questions about those who did not come home.

Sen. John McCain, himself a Navy man who served his country in combat, ought to be interested. Five years ago, even as Captain Boston was admitting what many had long suspected about the court's work, McCain was endorsing The Liberty Incident, a book that argues the attack was a tragic misunderstanding.

McCain's connection to Liberty is personal. His father, Adm. John S. McCain, then commander of U.S. naval forces in Europe, ordered the court to be convened and offered the first official endorsement of its findings.

In 2002, Senator McCain noted on the back jacket of The Liberty Incident that author A. Jay Cristol "reached a similar conclusion to the one my father reached in his June 18, 1967, endorsement of the court of inquiry. I commend . . . Cristol for his thoroughness and fairness, and I commend this work."

What, then, does McCain owe to the survivors and the dead of the Liberty, given that the report has been skewed and new evidence and witnesses point to a different conclusion? How about his fellow senators, so ready to defend living veterans from the rantings of talk-show hosts, or the hundreds of legislators in the House who ran to the battlements to defend General Petraeus's good name from a newspaper ad?

Where Congress was right to interject itself was in the case of Pat Tilman, the soldier whose friendly-fire death was covered up by who-knows-how-many rungs in the chain of command. Tilman's family and his fellow Americans deserve to know what really happened to him on that day. Same with the Liberty crew the living and the dead.

Congress at long last needs to muster the courage and decency to demand answers to what really happened to those American sons. Until it does so, it only shames itself by posing as the defender of American troops against radio hosts and newspaper ads.

Bryant Jordan, a journalist and a Vietnam veteran, is associate editor of military.com (  bryant.jordan@military-inc.com).

not 1935 29.Apr.2008 22:22

zll

way to skew the facts, those bombs were not from 1935. 1953, convenient typo there.

"Wet-Start" 30.Jun.2008 16:11

Shan

The tail end of LCDR McCain A4 was -- just like every other launch-ready airframe on deck that day -- was pointed over open water. He could have "wet-started" until the world looked level and done no more than singe a sea-gull.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CVA-59_fire_aft_deck_plan.png

The Zuni rocket came from A/C 410, circled on the left. McCain was in A/C 416, circled on the right.

Check your facts before you start slandering people.

The CVA-59 image does indeed show the jets on deck with tails pointing out 24.Aug.2008 22:14

jhh

I checked the image referred to above. It does indeed show the jets parked on the deck with tails (and exhausts) pointing out (ie overboard). Seems a wise precaution, I'd guess they'd do everything possible to minimize having any more exhausts than necessary pointing over the deck (obviously, they have to point over the deck during a catapult launch.)

I have read numerous reports and seen films of the incident, which had a complex set of causes and contributing factors.