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How Can Americans Be So Stupid?

If you've traveled abroud much over the last several years, it's likely you heard that one. However, it is more than just having voted for Bush or choosing to nibble on "freedom fries." If you try to really engage Americans, even educated ones, you start to believe that, as a whole, Americans really are stupid.
Here are a few quotes from various members of the community who would not hesitate to flaunt their credentials as evidence of the fact that they are highly intelligent human beings.

When speaking to an OSU grad student in a coffee shop about political assassinations: "I believe they happen, but I don't believe they happen here. They couldn't get away with it."

Coming from a Harvard MBA and prominent, active Dem when discussing vote fraud and all the evidence that it did occur in 2000, 2002, 2004 (this was pre-'06): "I don't buy any of that conspiracy theory stuff. There's just no way they could get away with it."

Talking to a big firm consultant out of the University of Chicago grad school about the threat to civil liberties from the PATRIOT Act: "I don't subscribe to that whole 'slippery slope' argument that the government would use the PATRIOT Act to go after good Americans."

Conversing with an MIT engineer in a hotel lobby, the conversation shifts to 9-11 and the WTC collapse. I suggest that, citing a few of the major reasons the government story is not accurate, the Bush Administration must have had foreknowledge (the 'inside job' conversation isn't something you enter casually) and let the attacks happen for political advantage. His reply: "No way! You know why I know? Because I was in Manhattan on 9-11 when the attacks happened. It was terrorists!"

In an airport with a junior executive and CPA from a major company here in Portland, we're discussing the incredible current account deficit of the United States, suspension of M3 monetary measurement, and the possibility of a major recession due to the disequilibrium in global currency balances. His logic: "That can't happen because of the controls that were set up by the Federal Reserve after the Great Depression... I'm a firm believer in market efficiency." It should be noted this guy professed a particular reverence for the wisdom of Bill O'Reilly.

Each of these conversations with "highly educated" people show a fundamental breakdown in simple logic that basically short circuits any critical thinking. Yet it reveals just how brainwashed our society is and hopeless the United States may be.

It's as much about denial as it is stupidity... 19.Jan.2007 11:38

Pravda or Consequences

People aspire to be power brokers and will rationalize the failures of such aspirations.

Most are hypnotized 19.Jan.2007 11:51

teevee kills

by the television.

If you are able to watch it at all, it means you are drawn in to it. Messages are designed to placate and stupify.

Jerry Mander's Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television details how exactly this is accomplished.

It is very complex, and extremely effective.

Coming to TERMS 19.Jan.2007 13:31

borris

Pravda is much closer to the crux of the matter :
this is not a desription of lack of mental ability , but rather a clear example of - willful - ignorance on the part of those who willfully turn away from anything that challenges their comfort with the status quo.
I was in a roomful of these people last night as we all listened to the comments of a well respected and intelligent man . At one point in the Q & A , i shot a flaming arrow of radical political resistance into that atmosphere just to make things more edgy and interesting . I believe that this sort of tactic needs to be used more often when in the company of intelligent but all too comfortable fellow amerikkans.
Terminology is also very important in these discussions so as not to promote the distraction that we are fed in the MSM ...... ie; the Bushies are not stupid or ' incompetant ' , they are incredibly competant at extorting the national treasure for the pleasure of their cabal while we are chasing our own tales in the fog of distraction provided for us by the propoganda machine. J. GOEBLES NAILED IT !

It's by design 19.Jan.2007 14:09

NXNGRG

It's no accident that the universities are morally bankrupt and that college degree or even a tenured professorship at Harvard will ensure the presence of a clear educated mind, replete with critical reasoning skills. Americans are sheeple, groomed to be obese gratuitous consumers - critical thinking is treasonous and
is very dangerous to maintain the criminal enterprise of the U.S. Government/Pentagon system. I am a 9/11 activist, but I really feel my greatest fight is not against the perps in the private military contractors that run America, it is against the appalling ignorance of Americans.

Exactly, Boris 19.Jan.2007 14:15

tellie and radio the key

A smoothly integrated propaganda system is essential for disinformation to be widely distributed and repeated frequently enough to be imprinted on our minds, whether we are aware of it or not. The Bush cabal, and Congress, are certainly not unaware of this, and the plan for Empire has been in the works a really long time...Say, two hundred years?

High-tech communications and gadgets provide a source of endless distraction, and promotes a group mindset which is essential for control of the majority of the population.

Yes, tv and willful ignorance and 19.Jan.2007 14:18

x

protection of their own favored, golden spot in the sun. But also they are taught to not think. This is how it was done:

SRA was the major publisher and source of reading materials in the the 70s- 80s in public schools. SRA was owned by IBM. The 'writers' for SRA were given approved word lists for their 'stories. If a word was not used X number of times, the word was struck from the list. Say, you didn't use the word 'giraffe' 10 times that year. No more 'giraffe' allowed, ever. Obviously, the approved list of words grew shorter and shorter every year.

The other main tactic was the restriction of mult-syllabic (ha!) words - only X number per 'story' allowed. That means you couldn't write a story about, say, elephants - too many syllables per story if you used the word 'elephant' a couple times. See?

And that's how "Huckleberry Finn', for instance, went from 5th grade reading level to senior in high school reading level. The kids were the same. The materials were dumbed down to prevent an educated populace that could think logically and act politically.

Does that piss you off enough to pick up a book? Or make your kids turn off the tv and pick up a book? I sure hope so - you're our best hope.

Minnesota Daily Launches Series of 9/11 Truth Columns 19.Jan.2007 14:19

Myra M. Jackson someoftheabovenews@yahoo.com

{{{{ Below is a current sample of a compilation I send to media and legislators and other "opinion makers" etc. I'm placing it here and at other forums, comment places, etc. in the hope that some who have the time
and inclination will do something similar. (Hopefully a lot of people are ALREADY doing something like this.)

I recommend people consider sending their own unique compilations, on a regular, updated basis, to as many legislators (state and/or federal), and media as they can handle.

I am able to send to a list of around 1500 approximately once a week. One of the easiest ways to accumulate such a list is by using congress.org . Their government lists are easy to find and use. Their media lists are also extensive, and can be found far down the left side index. One can concentrate on one's own state, or go nationwide.

Once one gets one's list(s) into one's address book and one's message in draft, the mailing, while time-consuming (especially with dial-up), is "automatic pilot," allowing one to keep up on Air America or
whatever.}}}}

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Minnesota Daily Launches Series of 9/11 Truth Columns

Adri Mehra will be doing a series of five 9/11 truth related columns for the Minnesota Daily, America's largest-circulation college newspaper. (Contact your local college paper and urge them to pick it up and publish it!) The first one was published today:

The Jenga hypothesis, or how I learned to start worrying - The Minnesota Daily

At 24 this guy is doing what the Woodwards and Hershes and Krugmans and all the other cowards masquerading as journalists apparently cannot bring themselves to do--confront the truth about the most important historical event of the century. If journalism has a future, this is it. {911Blogger.com}

The Jenga hypothesis, or how I learned to start worrying
By Adri Mehra
This is the story of
one man's baptism
in the September 11
truth movement:
 http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2007/01/18/70347

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IS HTTP://WWW.BUSHFLASH.NET a DISINFORMATION BUZZSAW?

Google Blogs Alert for: buzzflash.net 911 censorship

Buzzflash: Another Disappointing CIA Fake
By Voxfux
Buzzflash.net has conjured up "the LaRouchian threat" as cover for their censoring ALL 9/11 skeptics from their site. They can censor all they want: it's Buzzflash's site. But why push the fiction that it is a "democratic" site where ....
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PRESIDENT'S PANTS EXPLODE IN FLAMES!

 http://www.borowitzreport.com/archive_rpt.asp?rec=6672

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"Progressive" Gatekeeping at its most blatant:

 http://www.BuzzFlash.net Censorship of search words: 911 9/11 & WTC !!

All articles and commentaries on BuzzFlash.net are, they claim, submitted and ranked by the BuzzFlash readers. "You choose what's the top news." As long as it has nothing to do with 9/11 !!

"Yes, they do censor 911 articles. There were many many articles being posted and they mark them "inaccurate." So, I do not even bother to post anymore."

Buzzflash, what are you doing? We see the censorship. So explain. Do you think you can defeat the Neonazicon regime BY USING THEIR SAME TACTICS?

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San Francisco Bay Area blogger Spocko's Brain got sick and tired of the hatred spewing out of KSFO, posted sound clips such as the ones posted here, and called upon KSFO's sponsors to pull the plug on their advertising contracts with KSFO. Whether or not as a result of Spocko's initiatives, a couple of them had actually complied.
 http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/01/spockos-brain-gets-vulcan-death-grip.html

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The Difference Between Jews and Zionists
by Bahador Alast Thursday, Jan. 11, 2007 at 10:55 PM

a MUST SEE Youtube video captured by Iranian-Canadian Bahador Alast

This precious video reveals the zionist totalitarian impulse at its absolute baldest, in the form of a zionist nut disrupting a Naturei Karta demonstration in the New York area. If you would like to meet this nut or one of his clones in person some time, believe me it is VERY easy to do. Just go to New York and hold up a sign that says something a zionist nut is certain to not like. "9-11 was an inside job," for example. Of the cranks who engage 9-11 Truth demonstrators in asinine streetfights in New York, Neo-con zionist loons easily account for 90%. It's like they're too arrogant to realize how obvious their ulterior motives are ;-) There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that maniacs like this guy in the video are the real culprits behind this country's terrifying plunge into totalitarianism.

 link to www.youtube.com

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Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen
BLOCKBUSTER 9/11 EXPOSE' AND PHOTOS IN HUSTLER
(Just say "It's for The Article")

 http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14061

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Postal Workers United Against Tyranny

Postal Workers United is a group of American postal workers of all crafts committed to exposing the crimes of the Bush administration, specifically as they relate to his unlawful surveillance of innocent Americans without warrants, including the opening of our mail....
 http://postalworkersunited.blogspot.com

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BURLINGTON, VERMONT TAKES THE INITIATIVE ON 9/11

Vermont's biggest newspaper, The Burlington Free Press, has covered 9/11 on its front page!

A Burlington, Vermont group has gathered more than 1,200 of the 1,350 signatures needed to place a new investigation of 9/11 on the ballot.
See the full story at:
 link to www.burlingtonfreepress.com
This is a direct link to the story.
More information is also available at the groups website:  http://www.vt911.org

You can vote for this story at:
 http://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/Reopen_9_11_investigation_local_group_s...

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"Progressive" Pundits:
B O W L I N G
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S L O V A K I A

[The writer of this review focuses on the lethal CAREERISM of the Neo-cons and Neo-liberals; but the craven careerist hacks embeded in some of the most influential "progressive" media are at least as dangerous to our democracy:
David Corn of The Nation magazine, for instance, is currently RUNNING AN AD on Air America Radio frantically urging us to leave off questioning the Bush regime's account of 9/11 (even though scientific polls clearly show that only SIXTEEN PERCENT of Americans accept that account!), and to banish impeachment from our thoughts!
Some of the others who are advancing their careers by helping the Neo-cons and the Neo-libs to squelch questioning and investigation of their crimes:

Alexander Cockburn of  counterpunch@counterpunch.com , Ed Schultz of  ed@edschultzshow.com , The Young Turks of  theyounturk@yahoo.com .

Then there is the new "democratic" site  http://www.buzzflash.net which with great fanfare advertises that its readers can vote on its articles for importance and relevance -- but anything having to do with 9/11 or anything the least bit critical of the Israeli government is instantly deleted from the site! Karl Rove could learn from these people.

And we must not forget to include in this list of treachery the grand old man of Manufacturing Consent himself: Noam Chomsky, diligently manufacturing cover-up for the most dangerous regime in US history!]

From: LONDON REVIEW OF BOOKS
Vol. 29 No. 1 dated 4 January 2007

Dragon-Slayers
by Corey Robin

"....Many people believe that great crimes come from terrible ideas: Marxism, racism and Islamic fundamentalism gave us the Gulag, Auschwitz and 9/11. It was the singular achievement of [Hannah Arendt's book] EICHMANN IN JERUSALEM, however, to remind us that the worst atrocities often arise from the simplest of vices. And few vices, in Arendt's mind, were more vicious than careerism. 'The East is a career,' Disraeli wrote. And so was the Holocaust, according to Arendt. 'What for Eichmann was a job, with its daily routine, its ups and downs, was for the Jews quite literally the end of the world.' Genocide, she insisted, is work. If it is to be done, people must be hired and paid; if it is to be done well, they must be supervised and promoted.

"Eichmann was a careerist of the first order. He had 'no motives at all', Arendt insisted, 'except for an extraordinary diligence in looking out for his personal advancement'. He joined the Nazis because he saw in them an opportunity to 'start from scratch and still make a career', and 'what he fervently believed in up to the end was success.' Late in the war, as Nazi leaders brooded in Berlin over their impending fate and that of Germany, Eichmann was fretting over superiors' refusing to invite him to lunch. Years later, he had no memory of the Wannsee ['final solution'] Conference, but clearly remembered bowling with senior officials in Slovakia.

"....Most modern theorists, from Montesquieu to the American Framers to Hayek, have considered ambition and careerism to be checks against, rather than conduits of, oppression and tyranny....

"The main reason for the contemporary evasion of Arendt's critique of careerism, however, is that addressing it would force a confrontation with the dominant ethos of our time. In an era when capitalism is assumed to be not only efficient but also a source of freedom, the careerist seems like the agent of an easy-going tolerance and pluralism. Unlike the ideologue, whose great sin is to think too much and want too much from politics, the careerist is a genial caretaker of himself. He prefers the marketplace to the corridors of state power. He is realistic and pragmatic, not utopian or fanatic. That careerism may be as lethal as idealism, that ambition is an adjunct of barbarism, that some of the worst crimes are the result of ordinary vices rather than extraordinary ideas: these are the implications of EICHMANN IN JERUSALEM that neo-cons and neoliberals alike find too troubling to acknowledge."
 http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n01/print/robi02_.html

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Esteemed Professor and Law Expert Warns Of Police State
Francis A Boyle says 9/11 was allowed to happen, war on terror is facilitating the downfall of The Republic, concentration camps are in place and US citizens are the targets

 http://www.infowars.net/articles/december2006/191206Boyle.htm

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DEAD ON ARRIVAL
The NIST 911 Report On The World Trade Center Collapse
By Mark H. Gaffney
 http://rense.com/general74/nist.htm

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Barrett: Academic freedom is good policy

By KEVIN BARRETT
(Barrett is a part-time lecturer at UW- Madison.)
Wisconsin State Journal

In the former Soviet Union, the monopoly media acted as cheerleader for a brutal, repressive government. Dissident academics were silenced, fired, or institutionalized.

For two or three years after 9/11, our media served as a megaphone for Bush administration lies, and academics were intimidated into silence....

....The excuse that my position is marginal no longer holds, given that only 16 percent of the American people believe the government is telling the truth about 9/11 (New York Times poll) and 36 percent of Americans, and half of New Yorkers, believe top US officials conspired to commit mass murder and high treason on 9/11 (Scripps-Howard and Zogby polls).

It is long past time for a rational, evidence-based debate on the facts and meaning of 9/11. Any takers?

 http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/column/other/index.php?ntid=108886&ntpid=5

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Fewer people are believing the official reports on September 11 attacks:
 http://www.sheboygan-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611240473

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ARE YOU A 16 PERCENTER?

There is help for you!

If you are among the 16% who still believe the Neonazicons' conspiracy theory about 9/11, YOU CAN BE HELPED! Simply click on the links below to read the scientific debunking of the Bush pseudoscience fairytale about the WTC 9/11 atrocity.

 http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/kevin_ryan/newstandard.html

 http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

 http://www.wtc7.net/events/kc_science/index.html

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[Cindy Rodriguez's column below is the most truthful and objective report on 9/11 investigation that Some Of The Above News has so far seen in the mainstream media.
MAY THE WORLD SEE MANY MORE!]

Read entire column:
 http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyles/ci_4543650

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GORE VIDAL

 http://www.911blogger.com/node/4017

Literary giant says 9/11 allowed to happen, slams Bush administration coup de'tat of American freedom

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my favorite theory on 9/11 19.Jan.2007 14:30

xyzzy

is that it is neither an inside job _nor_ something in which the government is blameless.

namely, that they failed to follow up on leads not under the assumption that an attack was going to happen and it should be allowed to happen, but under the worry that following the leads might embarrass a long-time ally of the us ruling class (the saudi ruling class). the 9/11 attacks weren't _desired_ by the us ruling class, but they also weren't as _feared_ as much as the possibility that both themselves and the saudi ruling class might be embarrassed.

"uh-oh, i think there might be a skeleton in that closet. SO PLEASE DON'T LOOK IN THAT CLOSET!"

'Stupid by Design' 19.Jan.2007 15:15

x

A middle-school math teacher said to the math publisher's sales rep, 'I don't understand it. I work and work with the kids. And the kids try so hard. And they are still flunking.'

And the sales rep said, 'These books are designed for a 30% failure rate. That way we can sell you more and 'better' books next year.'

Seattle, 12.06 so you know it's happening everywhere right now...pissed off yet?

Answer to Orig. ^Above Article Title: /////***_WATCH THIS VIDEO_***\\\\\ 19.Jan.2007 16:56

here

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Thank you, 'here' 19.Jan.2007 17:47

Xevios Mothership Destroyer

Thanks for posting the video. Very sad. It sort of reminds me of Jay Leno's occasional skits where he goes out on the street and starts asking people questions like, "What state was Abraham Lincoln from?" Then people say something stupid like, "California?" The fact that the great American moron who is a Dallas Cowboy fan and figures Bush must be right since he comes from Texas, too, doesn't surprise me. What would be really interesting to see is somebody go around some big city financial district, police department, or someplace where you would hope the average IQ score breaks into triple digits and see what they say.

I agree with Pravda and Borris, too. Emulative behavior has a lot to do with it, but there is also a strong "bystander effect" involved. People are standing around looking for opinion leaders in the mainstream media to tell them what to think. That's why so much effort is put into keeping it under control. If 20/20 did a totally 50/50 story on something like 9-11 or Vote Fraud and gave fair and equal time to both the pro-government side and the "inside job" side to present their evidence for the show, phones would be exploding in every office of congress demanding impeachment.

great thread, finally lol 19.Jan.2007 17:51

TruthOutFuckinDamnNow (screamed)

It's by design
NXNGRG

It's no accident that the universities are morally bankrupt and that college degree or even a tenured professorship at Harvard will ensure the presence of a clear educated mind, replete with critical reasoning skills. Americans are sheeple, groomed to be obese gratuitous consumers - critical thinking is treasonous and
is very dangerous to maintain the criminal enterprise of the U.S. Government/Pentagon system. I am a 9/11 activist, but I really feel my greatest fight is not against the perps in the private military contractors that run America, it is against the appalling ignorance of Americans."

Very well said. You speak for me as well, so know that you are not alone. Not ALL Americans are brainwashed. Those who are not MUST shed their egos and unite. Even WE are not perfect. But we ARE the informational leaders now. We have a grave responsibility on our hands.

 http://www.universalseed.org

yes 19.Jan.2007 17:58

starfox

"If 20/20 did a totally 50/50 story on something like 9-11 or Vote Fraud and gave fair and equal time to both the pro-government side and the "inside job" side to present their evidence for the show, phones would be exploding in every office of congress demanding impeachment."

Exactly. Or at least a brand new forensic investigation into the events of 9/11/01, which is what many of the victim's family members are (and have been) calling for, since the release of the 9/11 Omission Report which was nothing short of a whitewash. Can we in the progressive community at LEAST agree on that? Let's face it. The 9/11 truth movement needs the anti-war movement, AND VICE VERSA if we are going to actually effect some kind of change BEFORE Bush gets out of office (provided we aren't faced with Martial Law due to the next "false flag" attack).

Remember Nazi Germany 20.Jan.2007 12:32

Ecotopian Yeti

The sad truth about Nazi Germany is that much of the support did come from the intellectuals that were not Jewish or Communist or union activists. Many German anthropologists, doctors, architects, physicists, engineers and artists (film directors and actors) saw the rise of the Third Reich as a means of securing their positions, advancing their academic agendas or career goals as well as getting "back" at those who were keeping down after the first world war.

So you dont "want to be an Amerikan Idiot?" Then be an open-minded ecologically sensitive Cascadian polymath.