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Boston ATC Says 9/11 = Inside Job

Knew people in FAA on day of hijackings who said intercept procedures should have been enacted as normal

 link to www.prisonplanet.com
A former Boston Center air traffic controller has gone public on his assertion that 9/11 was an inside job and that Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon tracked three of the four flights from the point of their hijacking to hitting their targets. In an astounding telephone interview, Robin Hordon claims air traffic controllers have been ignored or silenced to protect the true perpetrators of 9/11.

A recording of the phone conversation was posted on Google video  link to video.google.com late yesterday by the Pilots For 9/11 Truth organization.

After having acquired a background in aviation, Hordon underwent rigorous FAA training to become an air traffic controller and was posted to Boston Center where he worked for eleven years. He did not work at Boston Center when 9/11 occurred but still knows people that did who concur with his conclusions. In comparing the stand down of air defense on 9/11 and what should have occurred according to standard operating procedure, he quickly concluded on the very afternoon of the attacks that they could represent nothing other than an inside job.

"On September 11th I'm one of the few people who really within quite a few hours of the whole event taking place just simply knew that it was an inside job, and it wasn't because of the visuals, the collapses, whatever....I knew that it was an inside job I think within about four or five o'clock that afternoon and the reason that I knew is because when those aircraft did collide and then we got the news and information on where the aircraft were and where they went....if they knew where the aircraft were and were talking to them at a certain time then normal protocol is to get fighter jet aircraft up assist," said Hordon.

Hordon said that from personal experience he knew the system was always ready to immediately scramble intercepting fighters and that any reversal of that procedure would have been unprecedented and abnormal. He had also personally handled both real hijacking situations in his airspace and other emergency procedures.

"I know people who work there who confirmed to me that the FAA was not asleep and the controllers could do the job, they followed their own protocols," he stated.

Hordon said that the only way the airliners could have avoided being intercepted was if a massive electrical and communications failure had occurred which it didn't on that day, adding that there was "no way" the hijacked airliners could have reached their targets otherwise.

He highlighted the fact that only an emergency handling of aircraft protocol change on that day could have interrupted standard operating procedure and hijacking protocol. Hordon said it was unbelievable how far American Airlines Flight 11 was allowed to go off course without the appropriate action being taken on behalf of flight controllers.

"What you do is you don't wait for the judge, jury and executioner to prove it's an emergency, if things start to go wrong you have the authority to simply say I am going to treat this craft as if it is an emergency, because if everybody's wrong then fifteen minutes later no big thing."

Hordon emphasized that the debate has deliberately been channeled by NORAD and the government to focus on reactions to hijackings, when the real issue is the emergency condition of the aircraft well before a hijacking is even confirmed.

He went on to explain how as soon as the hijacking of Flight 11 was confirmed at around 8:24am, the entire system, from every FAA center coast to coast, to the Pentagon, to the President were informed and knew of the hijacking.

"The system now had to make some phone calls and call up Rummy's Pentagon and Rummy's Pentagon is the one that would then make the decision."

"Well, Rummy's Pentagon on American 11 didn't answer the phone, neither 175, didn't answer the phone and they didn't answer the phone until they were absolutely embarrassed into answering the phone somewhere along the flight of United 93 and American 77 - first formal contact was at this particular time," said Hordon.

"That is all distractionary, that is all designed to keep people off the focus - the real focus is what the air traffic controller did immediately upon seeing that American 11 was in trouble and what we do as air traffic controllers is we get eyes and ears on this flight."

Hordon underscored the fact that after the confirmed hijacking of Flight 11, the entire FAA system would have been on full alert and obsessively watching the skies for any unusual activity, and that such activity as the hijacking of Flight 77 would have been immediately reported to supervisors instantaneously, as well as being continually tracked.

"If the air traffic controller were going by emergency procedures which he is trained to do, he would have reached out directly to ADC (NORAD) and say what do you see?" said Hordon.

This highlights the absurdity of Dulles controllers mistaking Flight 77 for a fighter jet as it approached Washington as was reported, and the plane's over 40 minute uninterrupted journey to the Pentagon after a hijack was confirmed.

Hordon debunked the recent Vanity Fair piece  link to www.prisonplanet.com that whitewashed NORAD's response as a consequence of confusion and the supposition that NORAD needs exact flight coordinates to enact any kind of response, and that the planes were supposedly invisible to radar and couldn't be tracked properly.

"It's very clear now through testimony and documents given to us by the federal government that indeed....the Boston Center actually tracked American 11 as a primary target after it lost its radar, after it lost its transponder, all the way to World Trade Center," he said.

"Further information indicates later the NORAD radars had it tracked....the bottom line of the story is that all of those aircraft were always tracked all the time by the FAA air traffic control centers," said Hordon, pointing out that information showing air traffic controllers tried insistently to alert military command structures is being locked down because it points to finger of responsibility to Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon, who were also tracking all the aircraft from the point of hijacking to the impact on their targets.

This is the reason why, as Hordon stated, that we don't have complete access to flight data recorders and FAA tapes, which in the case of a conversation between six New York Air Route Traffic Control Center controllers was ordered to be shredded  http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/planes/evidence/nyt_destape.html because if studies of that evidence were undertaken it would become very clear as to who was really behind the attack.

"What they did is they cherry picked transmissions, communications and statements made all on these four flights that were able to paint and write a story that the public would look at and so ooh wow, this really happened - but it wasn't factual, it was a story and it tell not tell anything other than what the high perps wanted the public to hear - they cherry picked this information," said Hordon.

Hordon ended by saying that only with the testimony from the dozens of flight controllers who have been silenced or ignored would the true story about who carried out 9/11 begin to emerge.

homepage: homepage: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/141206trafficcontroller.htm

Forgive me 14.Dec.2006 13:21

Ronald

Forgive me for some skepticism here, but since I am in some circles supposed to ignore the hundreds or thousands of people who saw planes hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, why am I supposed to believe someone who was not even working on September 11, 2001? As to there being ""no way" the hijacked airliners could have reached their targets otherwise" I'll leave that quote to anybody who has read history for the numerous times the impossible has happened because of incompetence...or as seems to be the case with many in the 9/11 conspiracy movements, that no non-whites could ever do such a thing. Hundred to one says the many people Hordon knows, at least those who were working in the never end up saying anything.

... 14.Dec.2006 16:01

this thing here

whether or not planes hit the pentagon or grandma's house on 9-11 is irrelevant to this article. the point of what this air traffic controller is saying is that it is simply impossible to explain, using incompitence as an argument, why these off-course aircraft were NOT intercepted using standard, intensely trained NORAD protocols. it is an anomoly the size of texas. it smells.

That thing there 14.Dec.2006 18:38

Ronald

Actually, those points are very relevant considering the so-called Truth Movement is extremely selective in deciding what qualifies as relevant information, and that has more to do with whether or not the thesis agrees with their beliefs, not whether or not it stands up to reality. Again, why I should put any creedence in what Hordon says considering as the same filter that lets him through does not let through people who saw planes hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon is beyond me. In fact, considering as many more people have come along and said it was incompetence--people with at least as much qualification as Hordon, makes all the more point about the filter. Now whether or not you let those people through your filter, I have no control over.

Ronald is a Bush-Bot 14.Dec.2006 20:56

@

He didn't even read the article and had a rebutal for some other article at hand. Who knows, maybe "he" is an "it" automatically trolling the net and posting rebuttals.

Unversal Incompetence 15.Dec.2006 00:14

two or more people

>>> does not let through people who saw planes hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon <<<<

I've argued with TTH and others here about the Pentagon witnesses whose observations were supressed by the commercial media, band could not have done so if they were not "let through." See for yourself, Ron:
 link to www.google.com

The presence of your incompetence theorizing on this page somewhat contradicts your point.

Maybe 15.Dec.2006 09:41

Ronald

Not sure how the presence of incompetence theorizing here proves my point. IndyMedia, excellent for many reasons--actual coverage of events is superior to the mainstream media, and to get particular, The Oregonian, when it comes to coverage of local rallies, protests, counter-events; etc. That said, it also has its faults in that anyone can throw up anything and basic rules of journalism be damned. I know the mainstream media has its own set of filters, and I am skeptical of it, and likewise I am skeptical of IndyMedia reports for similar reasons. I am especially skeptical of conspiracy theories that ignore reality, or in the case of this article above, concentrate on one point of view over numerous others. My point was not the rest of the theory/ies, but rather that I am constantly being asked to believe singular (or in the case of some of the links you sent me, three to five people) who saw something that far more did not. Also, some of those who saw something in your links are families, and I am sure you have experienced that phenomena where in a group one person claims seeing something, and suddenly many in the group saw it too. So again, I have a hard time seeing why I should value Hordon's words as truth over so many others. And again, when you combine arrogance and incompetence, you get a lethal mixture.

As to "@"s comment, I'll reply when you reply with substance.

don't bother with this guy... 15.Dec.2006 10:38

psychopath watch

"And again, when you combine arrogance and incompetence, you get a lethal mixture. "

You should know, Ronald.

creedence? facts? 15.Dec.2006 16:48

this thing here

ronald, i didn't see planes hit the towers. i saw pictures of it. i didn't see a plane hit the pentagon, and i didn't even get to see pictures of it. all i have to rely on are some pictures and an official government report. frankly, i am not the only one on planet earth who doesn't put much faith in those lonely two as THE FACTS, THE ONLY FACTS, forever and ever amen.

the point being, ONCE AGAIN, ronald, that nowhere in this article does the air traffic controller assert that 9-11 never happened because no aircraft crashed into the towers or the pentagon. nowhere.

his assertions have specifically to do with the officially UNexplained, and down right suspicious, lack of military intercept on the morning of september 11th 2001 of 4, simultaneous, off course, hijacked aircraft, which is completely against NORAD protocol and official u.s. military doctrine.

rather than attacking a charge which is ABSENT from the article, why not specifically refute the specific assertions in this article.

Wake up folks. 15.Dec.2006 19:39

Outrageous Conspiracy Theorist (never tolerate me)

If basic procedures were left in place that morning, 3000 Americans would be at home for the holidays, instead of being sacrificed for the Illuminati.

Instead, Norad was told to stand down and false transponder blips under the guise of "Operation Vigilant Guardian" were inserted onto air traffic controllers radar screens and ANDREWS AIR FORCE BASE PILOTS 12 MILES FROM THE PENTAGON watched the event on CNN.
New World Order coup d'tat
New World Order coup d'tat

Why do we even bother 16.Dec.2006 03:58

with the likes of ronnie?

They're out to confuse the debate. Witness how he played the race-card right off. Then he shifted the topic to some wholly unrelated notion of some people not seeing the planes hit the WTC towers. Once they've tipped their hand like that, we should refuse to play into it. If we do, then they've won, because the truth will never be found that way.

We'd do much better if we ignored these spooks and took direct action together.

Praise the seekers; and to hell with the rest.

Hey Ronald 16.Dec.2006 10:00

9-11 Skeptic

There are two books that make the case for an inside job better than any other, in my opinion. If you're a sincere skeptic, or others like you are out there, read Dr. David Ray Griffith's books "the New Pearl Harbor" and "9-11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions."

Regarding the witness question, it's not just one witness, it's dozens who have come forward, but have all been ignored. For example, dozens of firemen at the WTC on 9/11 reported explosions going off all over the place. These are the same firemen being venerated as heroes, but when it comes to their story, anything that they said that didn't conform to the official story was not allowed by the 9-11 Commission as testimony. That's strange. Surely the mainstream media like Larry King would want to have these heroes on TV to hear their side of the story. Uhhh, no. Many veteran service men who would know and were at the Pentagon on 9-11 reported that there was secondary explosion and they smelled thermite. Pretty important and credible testimony, huh? Not a word about it in the Bush Pioneer Donors, Kean-Zelikow 9-11 Commission Report. Not a word of it in the mainstream press, even though these are highly decorated officers as witnesses.

You can attack one person, but you have literally hundreds of witnesses with testimony that is key to understanding what happened, and in every case it was not admitted to the record in the 9-11 Report.

Here are some short videos to consider about 9-11 16.Dec.2006 11:10

Jody Paulson

[a longer video, the web classic "Loose Change", is available at  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501 ]

Evidence that the U.S. Government Planned & Executed 9/11 [10:58 min.]:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVzQfa_V1jw

Video of Scott Forbes who witnessed the WTC power shutdown before 9/11, a
clip from "9/11 Mysteries": This video highlights the financial and
environmental consequences of the controlled demolition that brought down
the World Trade Center towers. Also: What did the president's brother,
Marvin Bush, have to do with security for the World Trade Center Complex
and Dulles International Airport on 9/11? Why were there so many
power-downs and evacuations in the WTC just prior to 9/11?

- Scott Forbes interview [4 min.]:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhauHfDJ4b4
- Related excerpt from "9/11 Mysteries", includes survivor William Rodruez
[6 min.]:
..  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmcvTzYfo
- "9/11 Mysteries": to watch the entire 1.5 hr video, go to
 http://911mysteries.com


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other videos of interest:

"911 truths everybody should know"
August 2006 speech by Barrie Zwicker, includes
- amusing anecdotes re people's "We Know!" reactions
- description of the huge detention centers being built in the deserts in
the US
[9 min]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aXzmDdZNPQ
info about the event:  http://www.stoplying.ca/articles/aug06/zwicker082506.htm


"WTC- The prosecution case for controlled demolitions" (theatrical enactment)
[5 min]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAa7M5FS_Q


"WTC bldg 7 Controlled demolition expert reaction"
Dutch interview, with subtitles
[2.5 min.]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_z8VMKL1ww