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GOT MEAT? Alec Baldwin narrated expose' on meat, egg, dairy industry.

Skip the Haunted House at the Coliseum or Scream at the Beach. Forget about the latest slasher film. Just watch what happens to the food that ends up on your plate.
I'm not a vegetarian, but I try to buy ONLY farm raised meat.

This is pretty hard core, but I urge people to watch it.

I didn't know Alec Baldwin had any activism in him, but give him credit for this one. The best horror film you will see this Halloween. Watch it and share it with the ingorant.

 http://www.meat.org/Prefs1.asp?video=meet_your_meat



If anybody knows of any way of making sure the meat products you eat don't come from places like these, please comment. Are there farms you can by direct from in Oregon?

homepage: homepage: http://www.meat.org/Prefs1.asp?video=meet_your_meat

meet the meat 19.Oct.2006 12:13

moo-moo

.. I agree! check out where your food sources come from! ...it's not just at the store. it comes from a world of hell for these animals. does anyone care about anyting else other than what they want at the moment. where are our morals and ethics????? i guess most people don't have any anymore!!

Usually the free range and "humanely" raised 19.Oct.2006 18:13

thanks for your post

animals go to the same old slaughterhouses as everyone else, with the same transportation issues and everything. Read why "free range" is not all its cracked up to be:
 http://www.cok.net/lit/freerange.php

See more about animal transport, how animals are raised, and such:
 http://www.whyvegan.com
 http://www.factoryfarming.org

And some practices, even when done on the so-called "humane" farms, are never going to be humane. Do you know that every calf is forcibly removed from his or her mother at or within a couple days of birth on every commercial dairy farm? Even at the free-range, organic ones. Then the boys are sent off to become veal or cheap meat (no use for them on a dairy farm)...

Original poster, I think you're learning about animal farming and feel bad about it (we've all been lied to by industry), and think you can come up with a "good" compromise with "humane" farming...but look a little deeper and more specifically into the issue, and I think you'll find that sorely lacking too, in terms of animal welfare.

Anyway, would you want to be killed as a healthy young adult, just because someone liked the way your flesh tasted, no matter what kind of life you had beforehand? Or would you want one of your parents and siblings to be treated in such a way? Animals develop bonds to their kind, as we do.

Humane farms 19.Oct.2006 21:22

Farm Boy

I've been a city boy for a long time, but my folks and grandfolks were farmers. We raised animals for 4H, let the chickens roam around the farm and collected eggs while they did. After a few years when the chicken didn't produce anymore, we held it down and chopped its head off in one swipe. When a cow was too old to produce milk, we called a local butcher who would bring it and load it into trailer (not drag it or prod it). The cow would be killed instantly with a 30-30 bullet in the brain. We were always a little sad to see the cow go, or the goat go, or whatever, but that was life. Our animals provided for us, but they were also pets, and we took care of them when they were sick and played with them in the fields. So people who say there is no way of humanely raising meat, milk, eggs, etc, don't know what they're talking about.

Hey Farm Boy - 19.Oct.2006 22:56

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did you sell the meat to Wild Oats (yeah, didn't exist then). I'm talking about COMMERCIAL animal products, not the "pets" (I wouldn't want to be one of your pets, seriously) that you killed for their flesh.

Although of course you know that for each egg-laying hen that you purchased for your farm, a male was killed (they're sexed after birth).

And you know that a mother cow bonds with her young for life - you may not have noticed the reactions of cows and chickens when a member of their group was permanently removed, but there is every evidence that they mourn the loss of those they are bonded to, as we do. And it sounds like you may have done it differently (if so, I'd appreciate hearing about it) - but in COMMERCIAL dairy - that's ALL commercial dairy (and if you disagree, please provide the name of a farm that does it differently), every calf is removed from its mother at birth or soon after (and on a dedicated dairy farm, the boys are sent to become veal or cheap meat).

As a side note, over 99% of the animal products people purchase come from factory farms. And the commercial "humane" farms do not treat their animals like "pets" - it's a business. Just curious if you have a dog, and if you would eat her (she's another "pet," right)? Because you know that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. What's the difference, really, other than that we designated these animals "pets," and those ones "food."

Humane? 20.Oct.2006 13:17

RRR

Here is the dictionary definition of humane-

Humane> characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for people and animals.

So where does chopping their heads off or putting a 30-30 bullet in the brain come in!

No Such Thing As Humane Slaughter 20.Oct.2006 17:11

VeganChicken

Thanks to all who don't eat animals period! Start by doing this:Go Vegan on Mondays with the rest of the world, as a really humane act... 98% of all animals on the earth who suffer horribly are factory-farmed animals (They are actually 98% of ALL animals on earth). So-called organic or free-range farms are an expensive joke. Love, V

oxymorons 22.Oct.2006 08:46

O Anna Niemus

oxymorons: humane slaughter, fresh meat, fresh fish

"Earthlings" Screening / November 2nd, 2006 24.Oct.2006 09:14

Food Fight! Grocery info@foodfightgrocery.com

So, you might want to check out the free screening of "Earthlings" coming up at the Hollywood Theatre. Kinda like a longer, more thorough version of Meet Your Meat.

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/10/347973.shtml