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Fuck Charlie Rangel...

Talk about hypocracy. This guy and Pelosi show why Dems are as bad as Repubs.
"'You don't come into my country; you don't come into my congressional district and you don't condemn my president,' Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, scolded Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez."

"...'If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him or not,' Rangel said at a Washington news conference."

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, was blunt in her criticism of the Venezuelan leader. 'He is an everyday thug,' she said. "

Source: cnn.com

Hey Charlie, the UN is a World Body and I for one would like to see it in another country. One that is more of an internationalist type. And because he's also my president, let him have it the way he has shown hostility towards other nation's leaders. And words are a lot less lethal than white phosphorus on women and children or funding death squads at the School of the Americas.

As far as who can criticize him, remember who is calling who islamofascists and I don't recall your outrage (so intense that it made it in the media) at Pat Robertson who thought is was appropriate to kill Chavez.

Hey Nancy, compared to who? Dick Cheney?

yep 22.Sep.2006 04:58


Free speech is only for the elite and only if it praises them. The damned nuts here seem to think that people have some sort of respect for that yahoo in the White House. We don't and we have no respect for most of the jerks in Congress either.

they live in a bubble 22.Sep.2006 06:42


If US policy was ONLY directed at Americans,...

Charlie don't surf 22.Sep.2006 07:18


He has no problem taking Chavez' oil though.

Actually, I understand that he needs to appear tough on Chavez, not necessarily in his district, but for the Democrats as a whole. Still, it is sickening seeing him and Pelosi go out of their way on these statements, especially Pelosi calling him a thug. Perhaps he does deserve it after engineering that coup against Bush a few years ago...

Geopolitics is a game 22.Sep.2006 07:55

Brian the Green

It's a game played by elites and a distraction for the rest of us. It is akin to watching an NFL game - you root for a team but you have no effect on the game. Your role is that of passive viewer. It's just another diversion to keep you passive and inactive.

Who are these Bush Enablers!? 22.Sep.2006 08:20


I read Chavez' speech and found it stirring, and tough shit that he called a spade a spade in the opening and closing paragraphs. Bush is a very dangerous man-child puppet of the Neocons and for Democratic leaders like Rangel and Pelosi to take the peculiar protective stances they did, is very puzzling.

I loved Wayne Madsen's take on Pelosi's "thug" comment and his retort about her "thug" heritage(see below).


Sep. 21, 2006 -- House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi called Hugo Chavez a "thug" for the Venezuelan President's "diablo" remarks about George W. Bush. Pelosi was speaking at a Washington news conference today when she denounced Chavez as a thug and said he demeaned himself and Venezuela. Pelosi seems to forget that it is a thug who tried to oust Chavez in a bloody 2002 coup, a thug who has invaded and killed tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, a thug who gave Israel the green light to pulverize Lebanon and kill over a thousand civilians, and a thug who wants to torture prisoners in U.S. custody. And while Pelosi was calling Chavez a thug, he was busy negotiating the sale of cheap heating oil to the people of Harlem. When was the last time Ms. Pelosi did anything to provide cheap commodities to the poor?

Perhaps Ms. Pelosi is a bit confused by the term "thug." Her father, Thomas D'Alessandro, broadcast wartime radio messages to Italy exhorting Italians to rise up against Benito Mussolini. An ally in the program to get Italians to revolt was none other than Mafia don Charles "Lucky" Luciano, who, after the war, was paroled and deported to Italy where he continued to run the Mafia in exile. D'Alessandro was elected Mayor of Baltimore in 1947 -- a time when Luciano's mob had a virtual free reign in the port of Baltimore. It would appear that Ms. Pelosi has forgotten that her mobbed up dear old dad dealt with thugs on a routine basis. Perhaps she should remember that the next time she has an urge to call a democratically-elected real populist leader (Pelosi does not know the meaning of the term "populist") a "thug."

Supposing this isn't eaten by 'carnivore' 22.Sep.2006 09:19


MY us foriegn policy analysis short brief : I studied at UofO govt. scool Doesn't matter but I SAY:

the congressmen are fuckin' scared because chavez presents a rEal threat to their power.

-The statement about how critizism "should be" ( as IF this congressman was chavez's friend giving him 'good advice' hahaha) should be directed at 'x' instead of 'z' is trying to divide your thought psychologicly.

THE VICTIMS in this circumstances of abuse are the american people and working oppressed people the world over.
Watch what Pelosi is doing. HE is telling you[!] 'You need to blame the victim, not the abuser. It's the victims fault they 'wanted it ' or rather 'they asked for it' .... akin to saying "she was asking just for it, mouthing off..." total mind fuck well fuck that!!!

STAnd IN SolIDarIty with chavez!@

My email to Rangel 22.Sep.2006 10:00


I also sent a similar letter to Pelosi. You can do the same.


Dear Rep. Rangel,

Who are you to be tell Hugo Chavez that he cannot criticize Bush? Of course he can, and I was thrilled to death that somebody finally had the guts to do so on the world stage. You, sir, are a gigantic hypocrite. If only Americans can criticize, then when will you stand up and tell the truths that Mr. Chavez did? You should be congratulating him, not condemning him. You make me sick, you are as bad of a devil as Bush if you think that nobody can come to this country and criticize any of our leaders, especially our most wicked leaders who stole the election twice and who are turning this country into a police state.

Your statements just prove that the Democrats are a wayward and evil as the Republicans and must be swept away for true democracy to take hold in this land again.

You are also a sick, sick man!

Hugo watch your back 22.Sep.2006 13:01


Hugo Chavez stated in his recent UN speech that the US government refused to allow his doctor or his security guard to accompany him to the UN. Instead, they were forced to stay aboard the plane. Is the CIA going to attempt another assassination of Mr. Chavez? Hugo, watch your back.

Ditto for... 22.Sep.2006 14:00


Barbara Boxer. I heard her on the Ed Schultz show yesterday and she sounded no different than Rush Limbaugh, calling Cahevz a demagogue and his comments reprehensible. As I said, yeah Barb, how dare anyone criticize Bush. Maybe, Hugo doesn't have all the tact in the world, but again, the Democrats show their true colors and lack of spine.

Squeaks Following the Roar 22.Sep.2006 14:37


The knee-jerk highly public responses by these two "opposition" partisans belie the values, privileges and excesses held in common by all participating in the ritual charades of status-quo, "representative" power. Rangel fails to recognize that the UN is a diplomatic enclave, effectively international, neutral territory.

If he foams that the UN is in "his district", does that mean that all dispatched to the UN by their various governments, including employees, have voting rights in "his district"? No. He is a self-serving blow hard.

Pelosi is a political tart, who has consistently revealed her opportunism, running from one side of the ship to the other, according to where "the action" is.

Dem Worms 22.Sep.2006 21:03

Den Mark, Vancouver

What pisses me off most about democrat worms like pelosi & rangel is that they refuse to understand that UN Hq is an international setting, which tolerates being in that self-indulgent place called New York City. Perhaps the UN should move to Reykjavik or the like, where diplomats would be treated like diplomats, instead of being subject to the fucks in our state department.

Tell Him What You Think 27.Sep.2006 12:10

Joe Anybody

I sent him my opinion by FAX yesterday
And here is his address so you can do the same

Charles B Rangel

15th Congressional District, New York

2354 Rayburn House Office Building

Fax: (202) 225-0816 -  http://www.house.gov/rangel/

And here is what I said: