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No dogs in farmers market?

We were kicked out of an open air market because we brought our dog.
This is a heads up for anyone who is making the Farmer's Market rounds during this time of year. If you have a dog, do not go to the Oregon City Farmers' Market. Dogs are not allowed. We live out in the foothills, and were in Oregon City last Saturday, so thought we would go see what produce might be offered in the market. We have a small dog, weighing only 22 pounds. He is well behaved, was on a leash of course, and we carried a plastic bag in plain view so anyone could see that we were ready to take responsibility for anything that might happen. It was a very hot day, so there was no question about leaving the dog in the car. Happily looking at the lovely flowers and fresh vegetables, we were having a good time when an 'official person' with a shirt on which "OCSM" was stenciled, told us that we would have to get out. It is an open air market in a public parking lot near the County Administration Offices (of Fouad Kaady demonstration fame). I think it is totally unreasonable to bar leashed and mannerly dogs from an open air market.

Another dog owner and I got to talking about the incident and he told me to go to Milwaukie Farmers Market. Dogs are happily allowed there. I wonder about other Farmers Markets. Where are dogs allowed? And, by the way, what is this unconsidered bigotry about dogs anyway? As long as they are well behaved and brought there by responsible family members, what is the problem with them being included in family activities? Silverton is a wonderful town for dogs. Almost every store there allows dogs inside, especially during the hot months. Oregon City is behind the times on this one. The irony of this is that we then went to the new Scottish pub in town and our dog was welcomed there if we sat out on the patio. Doesn't that just make sense?

allowed here 21.Aug.2006 21:22

woof

Dogs are allowed at the Saturday Market at PSU, and at the Thursday Market in the Pearl District (eco trust parking lot).

not unheard of 21.Aug.2006 21:55

MatthewJohnson

Though it seems unfair, I know of some other farmers markets with the no-animals rule. They may think that there's possible hygiene issues.

Hygiene Issues 21.Aug.2006 22:48

A

The Portland Saturday Market allows dogs, but I've seen plenty of smeared, stepped in dog shit there too.

Vancouver Market Okay, Too 22.Aug.2006 07:48

Den Mark, Vancouver

Dogs are welcome at Vancouver Farmers' Market (outdoor part), both saturday & sunday. It's a kick to see many breeds, a few which i've never seen in person. VancouverForPeace always has a table at the Market's 8th/Esther entrance, & i'm there most weekends. One weekend i saw not one but two pharaoh hounds. And several rescued greyhound racers are regs there.

make them enforce their tyranny 22.Aug.2006 08:12

yellowshadow

in this case, it is best to resist on the spot until they can get authorities to show up. i know it sucks to ruin your nice day with all this stress, but if you resist, at least you wear them down. and if they cant get proper authority, maybe they will shut the up. who made this decision? where was it made? who was invited? were they elected? how hard would it be to fight legally? it is even legal?

yeh. 22.Aug.2006 09:43

Matilda

You know, humans are so ridiculously territorial. They drive out everything living around them -- the deer, bobcats, coyotes, raccoons, bears...all the wildlife in the county comes to be considered "pests" when the humans convert the countryside to burbs. And then, they even get snotty to the non-human animals that they, themselves, have brought in to fill the gaps. So your little doggie is driven away by some officious little dude with an authority complex. Bla.

Saturday Market is as full of non-human animals as humans. Your dog will be welcomed there. (And by the way, I have seen as much human fecal matter in the area beneath the Burnside as I have seen dog poo there. So enough with the smeared poo anecdotes. In point of fact, that region of the city is smeared with so much human spit, poo, urine, gum, cigarette butts and vomit that one would be hard pressed to even notice the tiny amount of dog poo that might have been left by irresponsible dog walkers.)

For the record, I would prefer that people with big dogs not leave them to run wild in the city parks where kids play. It doesn't matter how nice you know your dog is, you can't expect someone with a little toddler to react with anything but terror when they see Fido barreling at their baby. But there also need to be places where dogs can run unleashed, and a well-behaved, leashed dog should be welcome anywhere that humans are welcomed.

I hereby boycott the Oregon city market. I think the vendors there should have a word with that irritating little man and let him know his "assistance" is not required.

Dogs: Let your Human Know you want to go Along 22.Aug.2006 10:07

For 4 Leggedf Rights In Eugene

Yes, take your dog. Depending on how well behaved and mellow your dog is, and if your dog likes to visit libraries, outdoor restaurants, hardware stores, alternative food stores, Government Staged 911 Lectures at Colleges, I've had pretty good success taking a large but mellow lab/boxer mix to above establishments. Most proprietors like customers purchasing from them, whether or not they have a dog. Sometimes you will get asked to leave -- usually by a person without authority who is "shocked" to see a dog indoors. On the other hand, I only started taking my dog into stores when I started seeing other dogs in same stores. Restaurants are biggest problem. Manager might site obscure little enforced 19th century municipal health code. But like I say, even many managers don't like to see their customers go elsewhere. But specism is similar to racism in that if there is no fight against it, not much will change.

I brought a pekingese to a Safeway a couple of times, 23.Aug.2006 09:59

it was a Safeway in Vancouver,

and everyone loved him. This dog made people smile, he got parents pointing him out to their children, and he got conversations started. On one of the visits, it was late at night and half of the people there were employees, but it was the employees who approached me and told me how cute he was, they seemed to love his presence more than anyone else.
And then one day, at the checkout, a management type very politely and very congenially told me that I could not bring this dog into the store anymore. I don't think a single person who saw this dog, including that manager guy, wanted this dog to go.
Once again, behind the scenes people, who probably don't even work for a living--unless you want to call the illness of trying to exert social control over others, "work,"--have remarkable control over large groups of people who don't want to live by the illnesses of others.
Who is the more sick: them, for trying to control us; or us, for letting them do that?!

generally 24.Aug.2006 12:19

the health law

regarding animals where food is sold is not enforced
but if someone complains
the health department is required to act
and once an establishment is given due notice
they can lose their license for further violations
i understand some people take responsibility for their pets
but the bottom line is
should someone lose their license for your convenience?

if you want to dine with your pet, have a picnic in your backyard
so they can do what they love - sniff around and play on the EARTH