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The seismic readings of explosions happened before 9-11 planes hit WTCs

The official 9/11 Commission Report (your tax dollars wasted) states the following:

8:46:40 a.m.: Impact time, WTC1
9:03:11 a.m.: Impact time, WTC2

.......HOWEVER, official data give seismic events of:

8:46:26 a.m.: 0.9 Richter, signal duration 12 seconds [reported as first impact, WTC1]
9:02:54 a.m.: 0.7 Richter, signal duration 6 seconds [reported as second impact, WTC2]

Conclusion: Two notable seismic events occurred before the planes ever hit,...were so close timewise to the actual impacts of the planes that Lamont-Doherty falsely reported them as the impacts. Instead, they corroborate evidence of pre-demolition explosions in the basements, as multiple eyewitnesses reported and which MSNBC and CNN, even though both aware of this, refused to cover the story.

The logical conclusion--which coincides with AT LEAST FOUR willing EYEWITNESSES to pre-explosions in the basements in the testimony of William Rodriquez, Mike Pecoraro, Phillip Morelli, and Jose Sanchez (and up to 14 other known eyewitnesses yet to make public statements)--is that the pre-explosives detonated before aircraft even hit, later falsely blamed on the aircraft--though the latter is a poor and transparent alibi when times noted, even poorer alibi combined with many eyewitnesses to pre-demolition basement explosions, long before the towers were demolished.
New Indicting Evidence Of The 911 Coverup
From Craig T. Furlong
 cfurlong1@socal.rr.com
7-26-2006

The following information was emailed tonight, 07/25/06, to Drs. Fetzer and Jones with Scholars for 9/11 Truth.




Hello, Drs. Fetzer and Jones,

Thank you for all your efforts and hard work in getting at the real truth about 9/11.

I discovered last night information I think you should see. It is about the discrepancy in the precise times of the airplane impacts into the Towers:

Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University vs the 9/11 Commission Report.

The bottom line (I am a corporate controller) is that according to the differences, the seismic readings happened before the planes hit.

Last night and tonight I sent two posts to Liberty Forum about this, and so I am copying and pasting them here for you (as they tell the entire matter; or at least enough to get you thinking).

I have looked high and low, but can not find this new information anywhere on the internet.

Post to Conspiracy 911 7/24/06

WTC7 must be the focal point to exposing the govt's coverup...HOWEVER I'd like to take a sharp turn if I may and give you something else to think about:

The official 9/11 Commission Report (your tax dollars wasted) states the following:

 http://www.9-11commission.gov/

Impact time, AA Flt 11: 8:46:40 a.m.

Impact time, UA Flt 175: 9:03:11 a.m.

.......HOWEVER,

 http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_wtc.html

the official data readings from Lamont-Doherty give the following seismic events:

time 8:46:26: 0.9 Richter, signal duration 12 seconds [reported as first impact, WTC1]

time 9:02:54: 0.7 Richter, signal duration 6 seconds [reported as second impact, WTC2]

Conclusion:

Two notable seismic events occurred before the planes ever hit the towers and were so close timewise to the actual impacts of the planes that Lamont-Doherty reported them as the impacts. The logical conclusion (which coincides with many eyewitnesses in the basements, e.g., William Rodriquez) is that these were explosives detonated to coincide with the aircraft hitting the towers. They were very close to getting the timing right. This is one time I'm going to believe the gov't; I think their times are correct, down to the second!

And, oh yes, getting back to WTC7, it did have quite a conflagration of fire that day on the south side of the building, and yes, it did have fairly large damage to the south face from debris of WTC1 hitting it...HOWEVER, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that these caused it to collapse IN NEAR-PERFECT SYMMETRY EXACTLY LIKE A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION; there is also no evidence to back a claim that support trusses for the floors 5 through 7 were damaged so as to cause the building to collapse.

Putting hypotheticals and conjectures aside (which are not evidence), we do have the fact that WTC7 fell in near-perfect symmetry at free-fall speed, exactly like a classic controlled demolition, and this is for all the world to see.

ONE OTHER THING: if you view the video "Eyewitness 9/11", you will see indisputable evidence by scientific sound analysis of the collapse of WTC1 that shows massive explosions occurred before the tower began to collapse; and, as would be expected, the first notable came from the basement.

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-349898043858
7461603&q=9%2F11+eyewitness

A real investigation is needed NOW, and not like the first disgraceful one that didn't even resemble one.

Post to Conspiracy 911 7/25/06

Hiya, SlackerSlayer,

I read it differently. Here is what the Commission wrote about its task:

"The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, an independent, bipartisan commission created by congressional legislation and the signature of President George W. Bush in late 2002, is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks. The Commission is also mandated to provide recommendations designed to guard against future attacks."

They failed miserably in the "full and complete account" part.

(see David Ray Griffin: "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions")

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-398081814159578985

BTW, I can't find evidence anywhere on the internet about the information contained herein this post, about the discrepancy of time of plane impacts [Lamont-Doherty vs the 9/11 Commission Report].

I discovered this last night when I thought it funny that Lamont-Doherty could even pickup seismic data from airplane impacts 80 floors up in the air. I thought that most of the energy would be absorbed by the building before it got down to the ground, so how could Lamont-Doherty pick up a seismic reading? That's when I noticed the time of impacts were precise and thought, "Hmm, I wonder what the official government times are for the impacts?...and are they precise also?...and, what if they're different?"

OK, I admit it; I was hoping I could find more evidence of duplicity and coverup.

AFTER ALL, WE ARE DEALING WITH MURDER AND TREASON

So, I ended up with this: The seismic readings happened before the planes hitHow could this be? What does this mean?

I can only come up with one conclusion: VERY LARGE EXPLOSION(S).

The Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University has its data precise to plus or minus one second, and just now I found that the 9/11 Commission based their times on FAA radar data and air traffic control software logic. (see note 130 in this link):

 http://www.insightful.com/infact/911/corpus/report_470_460.html

Actually, it was you who got this going, SlackerSlayer! You were questioning the claim from the skeptics that it took 18 seconds for WTC7 to come down in, and I knew they were referring (deceptively I might add) to the Lamont-Doherty data because I had seen it last week. When I went back to that data is when I found this huge discrepancy that leads directly to government coverup.

Thanks for your efforts, my friend.

FYI, I am forwarding this to the Scholars immediately because they have the best group going right now, and we are all in this together whether we like it or not.

Craig T. Furlong

Huntington Beach, California



COMMENTARY

Craig T. Furlong, wrote: "Last night and tonight I sent two posts to Liberty Forum about this, and so I am copying and pasting them here for you (as they tell the entire matter; or at least enough to get you thinking). I have looked high and low, but can not find this new information anywhere on the internet."

It's been on the Portland IMC since Decmeber 2004, though yes, he did correlate the times I think for the first time with the Bush's lies to show it was definitely a seismic record of two pre-demolition basement explosions, witnessed by these many individuals:

related:

Title: TWO EYEWITNESSES to prepatory subbasement demolitions of WTC1&2, coincide w/ WTC1&2 hits
Author: 9-11 researcher
Date: 2004.12.01 12:10
Description: EYEWITNESSES [WTC1 witness]

1. Mike Pecoraro, who was working in the SIXTH SUBBASEMENT of the North Tower when the first plane hit. His eyewitness account is of the moments after the first plane crash (WTC1 struck at 95th floor by unknown plane around 8:46 a.m.), and describes evidence of large explosions in the lobby, parking garage and subbasement levels of WTC-1 at the time of the crash. [or rather, timed to coincide with the crash.] "...the room they were working in began to fill with a white smoke. "We smelled kerosene," Mike recalled, "I was thinking maybe a car fire was upstairs", referring to the parking garage located below grade in the tower but above the deep space where they were working. The two decided to ascend the stairs to the C level, to a small machine shop where Vito Deleo and David Williams were supposed to be working. When the two arrived at the C level, they found the machine shop gone." [dual WTC1/WTC2 witness]

2. Construction worker Phillip Morelli describes being ***thrown to the ground*** by ***two explosions*** while in the FOURTH SUBBASEMENT of the [WTC1] North Tower. [THIRD explosion in WTC1] "The first, which threw him to the ground and seemed to coincide with the plane crash, was followed by a larger [third] blast that again threw him to the ground and this time blew out walls. He then made his way to the South Tower and was in the [WTC2] subbasement there when the second plane hit [9:03 a.m], again associated with a powerful underground blast. This is one of a series of interviews with WTC survivors..."

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/304905.shtml


Title: 9-11 hero tells of explosions in the the WTC : proof of demolition of WTC
Author: brian
Date: 2005.06.26 08:18
Description: WTC janitor [William Rodriguez] pulls burn victim to safety after basement explosion rocks north tower seconds before jetliner hit top floors. Also, two other men trapped and drowning in a basement elevator shaft, were also pulled to safety from underground explosion..

His eyewitness account, backed up by at least 14 people at the scene with him, isn't speculation or conjecture. It isn't a story that takes a network out on a journalistic limb. It's a story that can be backed up, a story that can be verified with hospital records and testimony from many others.

It's a story about 14 people who felt and heard the same explosion and even saw Rodriguez, moments after the airplane hit, take David to safety, after he was burnt so bad from the basement explosion flesh was hanging from his face and both arms.

So why didn't NBC or any other major news outlets cover the story? They didn't run it because it shot the government story to hell and back. They didn't run it because "the powers that be" wouldn't allow it.

Since 9/11, Rodriguez has stuck to his guns, never wavering from what he said from day one. Left homeless at times, warned to keep quiet and subtly harassed, he nevertheless has continued trying to tell get his message out in the face of a country not willing to listen.

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/320353.shtml


Title: Second WTC Janitor Comes Forward With Testimony Of Basement Explosion
Author: Greg Szymanski
Date: 2005.07.13 01:01
Description: Jose Sanchez, while working in a sub-level 4 workshop of the north tower on 9/11, heard a bomb-like explosion, had his hair burned and rescued a co-worker who had his leg and knee broken from the basement blast taking place at the same time the jetliner struck the top floors.

Jose Sanchez, 45, of New Jersey in a never-released tape recorded statement made in early 2002 to William Rodriguez, the first WTC maintenance man to claim a bomb exploded in the north tower basement, said he heard what sounded like a "huge bomb," causing lights to flicker on and off, while he worked in a small sub-level 4 workshop.

Sanchez, who worked for American Building Maintenance Co. at the WTC for 14 years, was unavailable for comment, but made the taped 2002 statement to Rodriguez, recounting his 9/11 personal experience.

Sanchez, who fell on hard times after 9/11, revealed the details of a basement bomb-like explosion while Rodriguez and two CNN interns, Carolina Inojosa and Evita Zerebrinsky, interviewed victims and documented information for the many unfortunate people having trouble getting needed government assistance after 9/11. CNN covered up the larger "explosive" information in relation to this tape.

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/321426.shtml



Title: WTC Rescue Hero Sues Bush and Others under RICO Statute
Author: Philip J. Berg, Margaret Atheling Rowe
Date: 2004.10.24 05:50
Description: On September 11, 2001, William Rodriguez, a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center in Manhattan, single-handedly rescued fifteen people. The only employee with the master key to the North Tower staircases, he led firefighters up the stairs, unlocking doors as he went, aiding in the evacuation of hundreds of additional people who, but for his efforts, might have perished. Although his job description did not include saving lives, Rodriguez re-entered the building three times after the first plane struck, and was the last person to exit the North Tower alive. He survived the collapse of the North Tower by diving beneath a fire truck to avoid the avalanche of concrete and steel. After onsite treatment for his injuries, Rodriguez plunged right back into rescue efforts at the site. At dawn the next morning, Rodriguez returned to Ground Zero from his home in Jersey City, to continue to aid in rescue efforts.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/300691.shtml

Title: WTC Rescue Hero Sues Bush for Complicity in 9/11
Author: American Idol
Date: 2004.10.26 12:04
Description: Berg maintains that many prominent figures in politics, the military and the mass media consider the 'Official Story' of 9-11 to be untrue. But while the truth is emerging bit by bit, thanks to anonymous whistleblowers and researchers posting on the internet, to date no one with the stake in being a Senator, a Presidential candidate, or a media celebrity has found the courage to risk being ridiculed as a "tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy theorist." Berg points out that the only Senator who has dared to publicly question even parts of the 'Official Story," Senator Mark Dayton of Minnesota, has received threats ominous enough to impel him to shut down his Washington, D.C. office until after the coming election.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/300887.shtml
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/303159.shtml

Title: NY A.G.'s Office Accepts Unprecedented Citizens' Complaint Demanding 9/11 Criminal Inquiry
Author: David Kubiak and Kyle F. Hence
Date: 2004.10.28 11:34
Description: New York, NY (October 28, 2004) - On behalf of New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, Chief Investigator William Casey today accepted a Complaint and Petition from a group of New York City citizens including 9/11 family members, survivors and a Ground Zero triage physician. The Complaint demands that the AG open a criminal inquiry and/or grand jury investigation into the many still unsolved crimes of September 11, 2001 over which he has jurisdiction.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301243.shtml





Title: Respected Leaders & Families Launch 9/11 Truth Statement Demanding Deeper Investigation
Author: 911truth.org
Date: 2004.10.27 03:37
Description: NEW YORK CITY, NY (Oct. 26, 2004) - An alliance of 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those killed on 9/11 today announced the release of the 911 Truth Statement, a call for immediate inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur.

The Statement supports an August 31st Zogby poll that found nearly 50% of New Yorkers believe the government had foreknowledge and "consciously failed to act," with 66% wanting a new 9/11 investigation.

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/300982.shtml