This episode is not work safe.
Interview with El Mariachi.
We discuss the name of the Shadow Crew segment; my interview with Richard M. Smith; Dark Profits; what has happened with Dillinger since my interview with him; Boing Boing; the morality of Dillinger's credit card scams; the two sides to crime and punishment; trying to stay on the straight and narrow; the FBI monitoring counterfeit message boards; Kim Zetter shopping El Mariachi's story to The New Yorker and Wired; Kim's article on the National Security Agency; will Kim's story ever get published; why he is no longer a crusader; what he could do if he decided to go after you.
Featured song is "Escape" by Electric Needle Room.
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