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secret, effective way to remove Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld from office

Here is a secret method that is guaranteed to work! It has worked in the fomer USSR, India, Argentina, European Georgia and the Ukraine.
Do something. It is nearly impossible to do the wrong thing! Talk to everyone you can and look for action opportunites on Portland Indymedia.

Thanks for all you do!
THE method 29.Jun.2006 11:54

Marleen

THE method worked well 1763-1776 - it was called the American Revolution

The declaration of Indepenence states:

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to ALTER or to ABOLISH IT,
and to institute NEW GOVERNMENT...

Does this still ring true today in 2006?

The founding fathers warned us of
bad men in positions of power.

They stated that the remedy for this was
for the people to elect GOOD MEN in their place.

I'd like to see 29.Jun.2006 12:10

Jody Paulson

a discussion of all the creative things that regular people can do to get these guys out of power as soon as possible. I'm tired of listening to the gatekeeper left saying, "well, it's just impossible to get these guys impeached until November, what with the Republican House and Senate and all ... we just gotta hang in there, we'll smoke 'em out sooner or later ..."

Look, I'm not sure we have that kind of time. Wait for a bunch of spineless, bought-off Democrats who were too chickenshit to protest the stolen elections, block thugs and criminals like Bolton, Chertoff and Gonzales from taking office, and passed the Patriot Act *again* with nary a whimper??? Most of these guys voted us into a baseless, pre-emptive war in the first place. We have criminals running our country and no one's doing anything about it.  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341515.shtml

Particularly silent has been the complicit coorporate media. We need to discuss these guys too. Is the best strategy to confront them? Circumnavigate them? Try to engage their attention? All 3? Anything else?

Regarding impeachment, didn't Thomas Jefferson help us out with this one? Can't the people petition for impeachment from a grassroots level?  http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4693816

But that almost seems too orderly and nice for a bunch of criminals. Argentina didn't wait for such niceties in 2001. I believe they drove 4 "presidents" out of town on a rail. Again, the thing is to reach out to the sleeping masses and educate them as to what's really going on. It's hard for me to imagine that the thugs in office are going to wait until after November to launch WWIII. We've got to do something. Let's be creative! Here were some of my ideas to spread the word, against the war at least, but this can also be done to spread the "meme" of impeachment:  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/05/340070.shtml

Let's resolve to join hearts and minds to help create a better world!

YES, YES, YES, 29.Jun.2006 13:25

AND YES

and don't forget that this above reverenced principle ON WHICH THE CHARTER FOR THIS NATION WAS WRITTEN, is chyrstallized into law with the very powerful 10th Amendment.

To give you an idea of how powerful the above referenced principle is....just know that a person will get arrested for quoting it on federal property!!!!!!


YOU GO BOY--THANK YOU, Ben Franklin.

correction 30.Jun.2006 08:38

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Marleen, I messed up, and the credit goes to you for the quote on the Declaration of Independence. I am a typical busy socially conscious person, with "so many things to do and so little time" and as soon as I saw the familiar language of the Declaration, which I have been waiting forever for people to USE in the way it's intended to be used....I was so happy that I wrote my immediate "YES, YES, YES" response, connecting it with ben. I am sorry about not giving you credit, and for it going to ben instead. Ben of course is right in that we all need to do something, but you obviously have done your homework. You found the legal ammunition we need so that we can take back our nation and the world as with one fell swoop (unlike the massive effort it takes to go against natural law and the people) and then things won't get so bad that we have to fight physically and the bad guys will have the excuse to mow us down with bullets or subversive technology.
Sometimes when a post in indymedia is really powerful, it just awes the people, and no one comments because they are still processing the information. I think that people can see the truth of the Declaration, but they don't know where to put it, they don't know what to do with it. And that's a shame because something this powerful is not meant to be separated from the people. That's why I say that we should go into the halls of government--executive branches, etc., and just lay down the law. If anyone tries to resist, and cites traditions and precedents to defend their authority, then we tell them that we can talk about it later, but that in the meantime the people are exercising their legal check and balance to get America back on its feet, and that they are not in charge.
We need to do something like that. It shouldn't be that complicated. Sure, it will have to be planned out and there will be spies to deal with, but it's got to be done.

Jody's got the right idea! 01.Jul.2006 22:10

Barbara Ellis

Good on you, Jody, for knowing about (Thomas) Jefferson's Manual of Rules for the House. There are 6 ways to impeach via 53:603 and one of them is citizen's petitions that go to the House Speaker, and must go directly to the House Judiciary committee which then votes on even one of those petitions. Iff that group (23-17) votes it to the floor, on comes the debate and House vote. It's shpped to the Senate to convict.

Our DFA meetup group just shipped off 500 of those petitions for June, gathered in June, to Conyers' for safekeeping until Jan. 3 when, if the Dems win the House Nov. 7, he becomes majority leader of the JC. We've just begun gathering another 500 for July. We're doing flash mobs, fliering, etc. putting resolutions before both the PDX city council, and the county commission. We got some great "ink" June 30 about the petition drive on that national website ( http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/12613). Check it out.

Come join our jolly Jeffersonian firebrands at our monthly meeting: Wednesday, July 5 at 7 p.m., in the True Brew Coffee House (corner of Milwaukie & SE Pershing on the Aladdin theater side of Powell Blvd.). Part of our group of activists is involved in the peak-oil movement, but the other part is with the national impeachment movement. A national teach-in is set in PDX for Wednesday, July 19; place and time TBA shortly.
We'll have it by Wednesday at the meetup and will also post it on PIM.
Barbara Ellis