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BOMBINGS: 7/7 London, 9/11 NYC & DC :: Any Muslims except as 'patsies'?

The title really is a question. According to many of the 9/11 truth campaigners the London 7/7 official story is as specious and fraudulent as the "19 Muslims with Red Headbands" and "jet fuel melting steel" fabrications advanced to explain the events of Sept 11 2001 in US.
Milan Rai, autho
Milan Rai, autho "7/7 London Bombings, Islam and the Iraq War"
Rudolf Giuliani, NYC mayor, London visitor
Rudolf Giuliani, NYC mayor, London visitor
Ian R. Crane @ 9/11 Revealing The Truth / Reclaiming Our Future
Ian R. Crane @ 9/11 Revealing The Truth / Reclaiming Our Future
David Shayler @ 9/11 Revealing The Truth / Reclaiming Our Future
David Shayler @ 9/11 Revealing The Truth / Reclaiming Our Future
Annie Machon @ 9/11 Revealing The Truth / Reclaiming Our Future
Annie Machon @ 9/11 Revealing The Truth / Reclaiming Our Future
Hey! Occam, got a razor?
Hey! Occam, got a razor?
Annie Machon ... 811kb / 6 minutes
Annie Machon ... 811kb / 6 minutes
In preparation for the MILAN RIA reading tonight at Laughing Horse Books on Burnside/NE10th, I have have found similar suspicions and patterns of behaviour but no real smoking gun like the picture perfect controlled demolition of World Trade Center Seven.

I have heard talk of an hour's blackout of London out-of-country telephone lines, senior Isreaeli officials in London told to sleep in to avoid a 'ballistic suprise', a raft of 'terror readiness drills' all occurring in London the morning of 7/7, such that:

1. there is a similarity to the 14 simultaneous 'war games' and hundreds of false blips on US air controller radar screesns on 9/11 ie so much fake action that nobody could tell even if one of the 'games' beacme deadly real

2. all it would have taken was to fool a few of the 'terrorist impersonators' into carrying, unbeknownst to themselves, REAL explosives

And then there is that damned "coincidence" of the absolutely confirmed presence of Rudolf Giuliani in London on 7/7 as well as havin seemed "really rip-roaqring ready" for the 9/11 "Suprise" in New york City. London is nothing like a second home for Mr Giuliani; no obvious reason why he should have been in London at that particular time at all.

According to the interview i heard on KBOO, Mr. Rae seems to believe it was in fact the work of a tiny circle of disaffected, highly politicised (and like Mohammed Atta), EXTREMELY non-devout observance Muslims, who were probably unrelated to "Al Quida" beyond a mumbled slogan or two.

And then there is the character of the explosives employed. They were not anything that could reasonably by made by amateurs. Either they must have come from mystical, unexplainable supra national group: or perhaps more likely, the explosives were fed to somebody, maybe the Official (and apparently dead and voporized) Acccused young Britons, by the British equivalent of "criminal elements deep within the Bush administration" --like the Canadian Police intentionally set up a planned "Koran In A Van" bombing in Canada recently.

The recent international conference in Chicago June incliuded two speakers who spoke in great detail about personal experience with British secret government agencies setting up elaborate and successful (ie murderous)false flag terror opeerations; Speakers were Annie Machon and Ian Crane.

But of the material I have found at this stage, those speakers say how it could have happened and that a false flag terror attack on London would hardly be without recent precedent. But they do not get specific and confirmed enough to be entirely pursuasive

And there are serious questions about the official (and ever changing!) official time line of where the supposed London 'terrorists' were at particular times and how they could have travelled where and how they did according to the official 'reconstruction' of events.

 http://www.financialoutrage.org.uk/thameslink_database.htm#Letters To Mainstream Media

I HOPE SOMEBODY AT LAUGHING HORSE TONIGHT HAS A MORE ROBUST FRAMEWORK THAN I HAVE SO FAR AS TO WHAT HAPPENED 7/7, BY WHOM, TO0 WHOM ... and lots of other aspects I have not thought of yet.

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These speakers in Chicago June 2-4 are the ones who talked some about 7/7:

*************************Ian R. Crane

Chair – 911 Truth Campaign ( UK & Ireland )

"……… history cannot be permanently falsified; the myth cannot stand up to the scrutiny of research; the sinister web will be brought into the light and torn to pieces, however artfully it has been spun."

~Dr. Jakob Ruchti - 1915.

In Chicago, Ian will present his research into the Madrid Bombings (3/11/04 – exactly 911 days after 9/11 ) and the London Bombings on 7th July of last year (7/7). Research which indicates that the scriptwriters of 9/11 contributed to the planning for 3/11 & 7/7...

…and he doesn't mean Osama Bin Laden or Al Qaeda!

Prior to his retirement from the corporate arena, Ian enjoyed a career of 25 years in telecommunications and international oilfield services, a career that provided the opportunity to live and work in the U.K., Continental Europe, the Middle East and Houston, Tx.

An ex-oilfield executive, Ian now lectures and writes on the geopolitical webs that have been spun since the events of 9/11, with particular focus on US hegemony and the US agenda for control of global oil & gas resources.

www.911truthtotnes.co.uk
www.nineeleven.co.uk


*************************Annie Machon

Annie Machon, along with her partner David Shayler (below), spent over 5 years working as intelligence officers for MI5, the UK security service. During their years at the heart of Britain's secret state, they saw an alarming catalogue of mistakes, cover-ups and crimes, which led to the deaths of innocent people.

In particular, David had personal experience of a major false-flag terrorist operation. His counterparts in MI6 officially briefed him on a plot to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi of Libya. This consisted of MI6 officers paying associates of Bin Laden over $100,000 in an illegal operation which was not sanctioned by the British government. The attack went wrong and innocent people died.

In the wake of this operation David and Annie left MI5 and blew the whistle. As a result they have spent 3 years on the run and in hiding in Europe, seen friends, family, and journalists arrested and persecuted, and David has been to prison, not once, but twice. Further intelligence has since emerged that proves the Gaddafi plot went ahead as they described, but the British government continues to refuse to hold an inquiry. They see the Gaddafi plot as one of a sequence of false-flag terrorist operations designed to give the UK and USA the pretext to attack oil-rich Middle Eastern countries. Annie will be addressing the conference on this and other examples of the crimes of the intelligence services.

More information is under David Shayler's entry.

*************************David Shayler-- Cancelled
PLEASE NOTE: David was scheduled as a keynote speaker Saturday night with Annie Machon, his partner. Because of his courageous actions as a whistleblower, David faced insurmountable difficulties in securing a visa to travel to the States for this conference. Fortunately, Annie is still scheduled.

David Shayler and Annie Machon (see Annie Machon entry, above) both spent over 5 years working for MI5, the UK security service. During their years at the heart of Britain 's secret state, they saw an alarming catalogue of mistakes, cover-ups and crimes, which led to the deaths of innocent people.

In particular, David had personal experience of a false-flag terrorist operation. His counterparts in MI6 officially briefed him on a plot to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi of Libya. This consisted of MI6 officers paying associates of Bin Laden over $100,000 in an illegal operation which was not sanctioned by the British government. The attack went wrong and innocent people died.

In the wake of this operation David and Annie left MI5 and blew the whistle. As a result they have spent 3 years on the run and in hiding in Europe , seen friends, family, and journalists arrested and persecuted, and David has been to prison, not once, but twice. Further intelligence has since emerged that proves the Gaddafi plot went ahead as David described, but the British government continues to refuse to hold an inquiry. David sees the Gaddafi plot as one of a sequence of false-flag terrorist operations designed to give the UK and USA the pretext to attack oil-rich Middle Eastern countries. He will be addressing the conference on this and other examples of the crimes of the intelligence services.
I always thought the 7/7 guys were patsies 21.Jun.2006 14:59

Jody Paulson

Immediately after the bombings, I found indications that the identified "perpetrators" in no way fit the profile of radial muslim extremists who would kill people indiscriminately just to prove some unclarified political point. Why would they attack a subway??? Keep in mind, around 10% of London's population is Muslim. They are by and large less affluent than non-muslim whites, and thus more apt to need to take the tube. Here are some descriptions of the alleged terrorists:

Hasib Hussain, 18, a "loving and normal young man" --  link to www.telegraph.co.uk

Shehzad Tanweer, 22, a university graduate who studied sports science and loved cricket and football.
"The best lad you could ever meet" --  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1692042,00.html
"He was proud to be British. He had everything to live for." --  link to www.manchesteronline.co.uk

Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, married with a baby daughter, worked with disabled children in a primary school.
"I never knew he had a religious background. I go to the local mosque and have never seen him there." --  link to www.theage.com.au

Lindsay Jamal, 19, a Muslim convert from Jamaica, married with a 15-month-old son.
"He wasn't the sort of person who'd do this. I won't believe it until I see proof." --  http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/1,,2005320810,00,00.html
(Note: in this story, he's named as "Lindsey Germaine"  link to newswww.bbc.net.uk , not to be confused with Lindsey German, the London born convenor of the Stop the War Coalition. )

These guys, after buying return tickets from London to Luton [  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15742951%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=was%2dit%2dsuicide%2d%2d-name_page.html ], were caught on CCTV cameras - one police source said the men were chatting "as though they were going on a hiking holiday". --  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15742951%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=was%2dit%2dsuicide%2d%2d-name_page.html ], were caught on CCTV cameras - one police source said the men were chatting "as though they were going on a hiking holiday". --  link to www.sky.com

Police are still trying to figure out why some of the bombers appeared to be carrying pieces of identification not just of themselves but of at least some of their three accomplices. --  link to www.boston.com

Hmmm. What might explain this? Maybe the guys who were supposed to plant the documents got mixed up.

"Hey you, Muslim person. Wanna make a hundred pounds? You could use that kind of dough, with a new kid and all. We're running a terror drill, and all you gotta do is take this here harmless backpack with a fake bomb inside to work with you tomorrow, just to see if the subway guards catch you or not. Mum's the word, this is national security and all; you can't tell anyone!" --  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/london_exercise_video.html

Does Anyone Really Believe this Horseshit?
 http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20340

Makes sense 21.Jun.2006 21:19

enlightened some more

Thank you for this.

The older I get the more I see how good people are made to appear bad for someones agenda. Don't let them make you paranoid.

MILAN RIA remarks pdx jun 21st : audio and video capture 21.Jun.2006 22:45

still researching ... knowning more, figuring out less ...

Mr. Ria covered a lot of topics that did not appear in two kboo live-on-phone radio interviews over the last few days.

FLYING FOCUS VIDEO and radio4all.net audio recorded.

Audio should be available on net before noon tomorrow--will publish separate newswire item when audio is available for download / stream / podcast.

Two quick points:

1. the VIDEO will definitely add a new dimension to audio only accounts. No flash--marvellously subtle facial and body language. A careful, well considered figure who offered, I think, important insights ... rich enought in context and depth to inspire extended thought and discussion.

2. Muslim 'patsies' only? MI-5--whatever that is--did it?

Ria has a really good handle on anti-Muslim terrorism and psy-ops, not just in UK and Europe (Italy, Spain, Germany, former Yugoslavia and formet USSR)--and pretty good on USA too--he can go into highly credible detail on actions in the Middle East, elsewhere in Africa, and AustralAsia.

Nobody got "the answer" they were looking for ... and yes there were several direct questions, in audio recording, on the really sordid British secret agency history of trecherous false-flag terror/pseudo-terrorist operations. You will hear this on net soon enough.

Last note: Mr. Ria's family background is NOT MUSLIM of any flavour--earlier generations spoke Hindi.

Thanks for the comments: Mr. Ria's insights are definitely worth the
effort.

PS/BTW: PDX 9/11 Truth Alliance has supplied Laughing Horse for free with more than a dozen home-copy DVDs of Loose Change 2, audio CDs with excerpts from Chicago Conference june 2-4 2006 and related. Laughing Horse would like a donation if you'd like to take one home to keep--but agreed to distribute free to anybody who seemed to have a good use for one of them.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pdx911truth/
Milan Ria event sponsor: http://www.pjw.info/

Jody Paulson : special thanks for your detailed comment/syllabus 21.Jun.2006 23:09

probably speaking for a lot of people

Sorry Jody--I don't have email contact info for you that I know of. yahoogroup is strong on email id's, weak on "street names". We would be honored to have you with us on whatever basis is good for you. thanks again.

London 7/7 investigation site 23.Jun.2006 00:10

brian

For those who dont know, there is an excellent website devoted to investigating the London 7/7 bombings:


 http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/

How The Story Fell Apart 23.Jun.2006 01:42

AP

A lot of people won't believe it, but the British press destroyed the Police Fantasy during the London Bonbings Police Conference held on the evening of 7/7.

As the British media highlighted a stunning range of contradictions, a police spokesman intervened to advise journalists to refrain from asking questions relating to the bombing, and to limit their questions to the *emergency response*.

But it was too late!

Some avi(divx) extracts from and related to the conference:

Live Broadcast Prequel:
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SEVEN BLASTS - yes - SEVEN EXPLOSIONS - ROCK LONDON. All at different times - totally uncoordinated and unpredicted.
 http://melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/7_explosions_12-30pm.avi
-early news -(917Kb)
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I assure you - not for the last time - that police were conducting CONTROLLED EXPLOSIONS on the tubes.
 http://melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/controlled_explosion_02.avi
-mid-morning news from Scotland Yard (1.5Mb)
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Scotland Yard says "controlled explosions" - KEEP AWAY!!
 http://melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/controlled_explosions_03.avi
- early afternoon news (2.1Mb)
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The Police and Emergency Response Conference - 7/7, live:
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he said, "as a matter of FACT they WERE controlled explosions."
Where there any?
 link to melbourne.indymedia.org
- conference (884Kb)
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27 Minute Timeline:

* AT 8:51 - an incident - confirmed explosion 100 yards into the tunnel from Liverpool St Station
* AT 8:56 - the Kings Cross/Russell Square incident
* AT 9:17 there was an explosion on a train coming into Edgeware Rd underground Station which blew a hole through a wall onto another train in an adjoining platform. In fact, it's believed that three trains were involved in that particular incident. and then
* AT 9:47 there was an explosion on a bus at upper Woban Square/junction with Tavistock Plce.
 http://melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/london_police_timeline.avi
-conference, first timeline (2.1Mb)
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3 Minute Timeline:

QUESTION:
Tim - 27 minutes between the FIRST blast on the tube and the LAST blast - I know it was hectic - but did you issue any warnings to your drivers?

TIM: *our reading* was that it all happened within 3 minutes of each other...
 link to melbourne.indymedia.org
- conference (1.5Mb)
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Any Warnings?

AP are quoting an official from the Israeli Embassy in London saying
they received a warning FROM Scotland Yard a couple of minutes before an explosion, and as a result, some of their government officials
didn't go to a conference in London.
Were there no warnings or no intelligence at all?
 http://melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/israel_warning.avi
- conference (2.7Mb)
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