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What happen Seattle???

So the Seattle Indy seems non active and we have one report so far from bellevue
The Portland Corporate Media says 100 protesters which normally in Portland they drop a zero meaning 1000 protesters.

So what is the scoop in Seattle?
About 100 Protest Bush Visit In Seattle Suburbs 16.Jun.2006 19:41


MEDINA, WASH. - About 100 anti-Bush demonstrators marched nearly three miles Friday through two Seattle suburbs, at one point waving their protest signs and banners as President Bush's motorcade passed by en route from a high-priced Republican fundraising event.

The motorcade drove by unimpeded as the chanting, shouting protesters stood behind police lines and barricades


Portland Corporate Media = Seattle Corporate Media 16.Jun.2006 20:01


KATU & KOMO = Fisher Communications
KGW & KING = Belo Corp

Were you expecting different stories out of the same mouth?

100 16.Jun.2006 22:57

could be accurate

Medina is a suburb with limited bus service and alot of
bellevuites are upper middle class, not the kind you typically
find at protests.....so unless people had the bucks for gas, it
could account for a low turnout

It was a small crowd 17.Jun.2006 11:18


There was maybe 200 people--my guess--who met at the Park. But it was a long walk to the site in Medina and some stayed in the park or just marched through Bellevue. A smaller group headed down to Medina, which got smaller when some remained at the first corner in Medina where we gathered. The rest went to another intersection, maybe another 1/2 mile down the road, because some thought the motorcade would pass through that one. By the time we got to the right intersection, there might have been 100 people. With a few different routes into and out of Medina, it was hard to predict where we should assemble.I don't know if any folks were along rte 520.
I did meet one person who traveled by bus from Seattle, so that was an option for some. I also heard that there was another demonstration in Seattle, with maybe 500-1,000 people but I don't know if that was a true rumor or whether it was related. Bush was not supposed to go to Seattle.
While the action was probably not the most organized, the turnout was pretty good given the short notice.
But maybe size is overrated. Maybe we need to get over the big is better mentality. A few dramatic images and signs are enough to give the people riding by in cars an opportunity to think about the war and Bush presidency, and what it means to them. What if no one was there? Would it give the media a chance to say that the peace movement is dead and create a wall of dispair which would disempower people?
This this action did get some media coverage. We are not going away and we will not be silent.
Maybe we should be emphasizing the creativity of these actions rather than size.There was some great theatre and signs. It also was a diverse group, which I think is a huge plus. The average age at the park was probably 50!

100 sounds plausible to me 17.Jun.2006 14:02

escaped seattleite

It's difficult to describe to outsiders how alienated and colonized Puget Sound
is. Getting 100 people to show up to anything is a notable accomplishment there.

alienated and colonized Puget Sound 17.Jun.2006 14:31


Well I am in several online forums focused around Seattle and the general responses I get about anything anti-corporatist is hateful towards me for posting such stuff. Of course anyone can join these forums even trolls but I am getting the general view that Seattle is a lost cause now. Thanks microsoft and the mobile middle class

Why Seattle Can't Organize 18.Jun.2006 09:13

plain clothes anarchist

People are really wondering, eh?

1) Rampant Sectarianism. Seriously. We have about four left-wing party groups that spend so much time doing one or more of these three things--sniping at one another, sniping at other (often more effective activists), or fighting over control of groups through their "coalition" strategy--that right thinking people bow out after the first meeting.

2) Tactical predictability. The tactical predictability runs as follows: social justice group calls a meeting around xyz issue; everyone in town shows up; sectarians jockey for strategic role in leadership; long time activists shape up tactical and ideological orientation in exchange for resources (money, equipment, turnout, etc). Rally happens. Police beat the crap out of people. People go to jail. Left denounces "violent" (e.g. anyone accused of violence by the state). Money is spent on court costs. Powers that be declare victory, as the settlement costs are just part of doing business and is figured into the budget. Remaining participants are encouraged to vote for democrats. Repeat.

3) Shit talking. There are two types: ones that are respectful to you in person, and try to isolate you behind the scenes (e.g. don't let this person be effective and then they will leave), or those that use the internet to denounce those they have a problem with.

4) No accountability. People in Seattle do not know how to make criticism in a non-threatening way in the spirit of solidarity and love. They do it out of spite and in support of their political bent. As a consequence, people who are fucking up are never called on their shit effectively, and are never given the opportunity to correct themselves, and end up as a victim of number 3 above. Finally, people who have power (hookups with non-profits, friends in the Democratic Party, etc) can fuck people over and cannot be touched, because of what was described in #2 (access to resources and power)

5) Domination of White Academia. Most of the people who enter and are invited into "activism" are from campus. And while students are just as capable of making a contribution, people who come out of the woods, the hood, or even "the factory" are second-class citizens, because they haven't read enough Michael Albert or Chomsky. Academics are often out of touch with the community because often they are from outside of the community they are trying to organize. Many are so caught up in ideology or history they can't be bothered to examine actual circumstances.

6) Domination of issues by cliques. All issues here have a "clique" that you have to deal with and follow, or else your work will be sabotaged by them through inaction or elements of # 3 above.

7) Atmosphere of Conservatism. Seattle brought the labor movement Dave Beck, and brought the world Bill Gates and Howard Shultz. The money here gets poured into non-profits, who use it as a poverty pimp hustle instead of street/grassroots organization. The unions aren't much better, with some exception.

8) Lack of Discipline. Everyone wants to have the thing done by the time summer comes around, or by the time school starts. A protracted campaign will only be sustained by local sectariana, with it's associated problems.

9) Alienating Rhetoric. People want change, not sloganeering. They want change, not poorly written tabloids. They want change, not denunciations of the trappings of what little comfort they enjoy. Rhetoric that reinforces conflict without negotiation drives sane people to the margins.

10) Burnout. Because of the above, activists who know their shit move on and apply their talents elsewhere (at work, art projects, etc.) because one reaches a certain point, and realizes that activists do not believe in self care, and balancing out their lives with struggle. That's why I am active in the workplace, or in my hood, but I refuse to come out to these events put on by the same tired folks.

Any questions?

plain clothes anarchist 19.Jun.2006 01:25

ecotopian yeti

agree with all that and affraid this is happening in Portland too. Do you think part of it is by moles or trolls or just within the nature of people feeling marginalized... or a combination of all?