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SO...WHERE WILL YOU STAND?

"Never Give up, Never Surrender"
The line is being drawn...between democracy, and control. Where are you going to stand? Changes are rapid now, Liberty & Justice mourn. We seek change, but wait for others to make it. We want truth, but wait for others to speak it. We want peace, but wait for others to seek it. The time is now...no more waiting.
let's do it 07.Jun.2006 00:58

engage

people people got to get it together.
one way
to create revolution is
to disobey unjust laws
what's up with 1st amendment "permits"?
the right to assemble shall not be infringed
when the people need to take the public right of way
that's our right.
motorists who are inconvenienced do not have a constitutional right of passage
revolution takes action
Bicyclists!
join together take back the streets
ride together proudly in the full lane
everywhere

Yeahyeahyeah! 07.Jun.2006 20:49

Vlad marxistsnes@gmail.com

As an Anarchist, I don't believe "democracy" works. Control? Control is the government, there is always a governing body in "Democracy" to make sure all the little kiddos stay in line.

That's not the point though. The point is that there is the spectre of a Police state looming over America, that the masses are ignorant to the situation and frankly don't care. So what will we do about it? Everyone's always going on about how they're going to do this and they're going to do that. But when are any of us actually going to do something so radical, so extreme, that it actually makes a difference?
We can sit here and talk and bullshit all day about how something needs to be done, and we can formulate plans and idea's all night, and in the morning we can fall asleep drunk and tired but that's not the point!! The point is that I want to do something.

How about the rest of yoo lot? Contact info is nice to have, but seeing as the kindly author here doesn't have any, and neither does "engage"...so how in the hell do either of you expect anyone here to do anything with you?
Unless you're more of instigators, never really wanting to fight but always there to push others into starting the war.

Hope springs eternal 08.Jun.2006 09:59

Jody Paulson

I keep trying to post stuff on here but it never shows up. So, in light of the admonition "Never surrender", I'll try to repost some articles on this subject:

"Never give up, never surrender"
Are you ready for the Second American Revolution?
 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31901

"Hope"
 http://educate-yourself.org/cn/torkomsaraydarianhope24apr06.shtml

"Speak- It Is Our Only Hope"
Charlie Chaplin's classic film 'The Great Dictator' is an early satire of Hitler and the Nazi movement, made before most of the world knew the full extent of the then-impending atrocities. In fact, as Chaplin was shooting the final scenes, the Germans invaded and overran France. This was too much, and in his sadness and despair, Chaplin essentially broke the forth wall, making his character, the Jewish Barber, speak for himself. The speech was a beautiful response to those dark times, and it seems to be appropriate now, as we seem to be ramping up for another war. Here is the speech:
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/04/338401.shtml

Regarding the Second American Revolution, here are two interesting articles:
"We ignore this at our peril"
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/336558.shtml
In the face of the coming maelstrom, we can come together in time whether we're 'leftist,' 'rightist,' 'centrist,' or whatever to recreate this country in a truly beautiful, healthful way.

"Completing the American Revolution"
 http://www.hermes-press.com/completing.htm
(I thought the first half of this article was very enlightening, but I don't buy into everything he says at the end)

We have begun to fight. Let us unite our hearts in hope.

Hope springs eternal 08.Jun.2006 09:59

Jody Paulson

I keep trying to post stuff on here but it never shows up. So, in light of the admonition "Never surrender", I'll try to repost some articles on this subject:

"Never give up, never surrender"
Are you ready for the Second American Revolution?
 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31901

"Hope"
 http://educate-yourself.org/cn/torkomsaraydarianhope24apr06.shtml

"Speak- It Is Our Only Hope"
Charlie Chaplin's classic film 'The Great Dictator' is an early satire of Hitler and the Nazi movement, made before most of the world knew the full extent of the then-impending atrocities. In fact, as Chaplin was shooting the final scenes, the Germans invaded and overran France. This was too much, and in his sadness and despair, Chaplin essentially broke the forth wall, making his character, the Jewish Barber, speak for himself. The speech was a beautiful response to those dark times, and it seems to be appropriate now, as we seem to be ramping up for another war. Here is the speech:
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/04/338401.shtml

Regarding the Second American Revolution, here are two interesting articles:
"We ignore this at our peril"
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/336558.shtml
In the face of the coming maelstrom, we can come together in time whether we're 'leftist,' 'rightist,' 'centrist,' or whatever to recreate this country in a truly beautiful, healthful way.

"Completing the American Revolution"
 http://www.hermes-press.com/completing.htm
(I thought the first half of this article was very enlightening, but I don't buy into everything he says at the end)

We have begun to fight. Let us unite our hearts in hope.

disappointing 08.Jun.2006 16:39

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Jodie: How do you expect change if you can't even recognize you enemies? Do you know anything about WND or the article you listed?

"Farah calls for churches and religious institutions to assume a broader role in molding the national character, including actively censoring the entertainment industry and having a direct role in education and family life."

If you can be so easily taken in...

revolution 09.Jun.2006 10:40

springfield armory

I am convinced that at this point in time a peacefull redress of greivances toward our government has become impossible. The Declaration of Independence gives us the legal authority and the 2nd amendment of the Bill of Rights gives us our last resort hope and method to abolish our present despotic government and institute a new and hopefully just and ethical government. Our 1st amendment right to petition for a redress of grievances is becoming illegal and impotent. I would like to think that peacefull protesting would accomplish the much needed massive overhaul of our government,however I no longer believe that peacefull efforts at addressing our greivances are efficacious.
Our government has become so corrupt and decadent that a 50 million person march on Washington wouldn't change anything. How many true patriots out there are willing to put their lives, their fortune and their sacred honor on the line to restore our republic to a condition of government by the people and for the people and not Halliburton and other corporate giants. I an not sanguine when I consider that question. It is time for cancerous-capitalism controlled government to go the way of the do-do.

Whoa. 13.Jun.2006 16:39

Jody

I did not realize that the first article I posted came from an ultra-right wing web site. I just googled "Never give up, never surrender" and I found that article, which I have to admit touched me a great deal. That's because, I'm sure, I was reading my own ideas (which are probably quite different than the author's) into what he was saying. Funny how the same words mean totally different things when there's a different understood "intent" behind them.

There's something very profound about this, somewhere ...