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Is Cingular the same thing as AT&T?

I have Cingular cell service. I believe they merged with AT&T at some point. Are these one in the same?
I have Cingular cell service. I believe they merged with AT&T at some point. Are these one in the same?

I need to know because I'm likely to dump their service ASAP due to the allegations of domestic spying.

curious 12.May.2006 08:07

as well

maybe youcould put a call intoCingular customer service and let us know what you find out. i'd like to know, too.

its true 12.May.2006 09:34

I amfraid

yes at&t did merge or buy out cingular... is it possible to tap cell phones?

Phone call to Cingular 12.May.2006 09:38

Anon

I called Cingular and the Customer Service Rep claimed ignorance. All he said was that AT&T and Cingular Wireless services merged but that their customer bases were on separate plans. Basically, I wasn't able to get a straight answer and plan to call again.

other way 12.May.2006 10:17

anonymous

cingular bought out at&t wireless. not that it matters really, as far as i understand it is pretty easy for anyone to listen in on cell phone calls. as far as call history etc. i am not sure.

SBC = AT&T = Cingular = (repeat) 12.May.2006 10:36

Joe Anybody www.joe-anybody.com

Cingular was formed in 2001 as a joint venture of SBC Communications and BellSouth, ... ... ... Which was purchased by AT&T.
If regulators approve the new AT&T's recent $67 billion all-stock deal to acquire BellSouth Corp., the company will be nearly as large as when it was the Bell parent company before the government broke it up in 1984. (4/16/06)
Last year's $16 billion acquisition of AT&T Corp. by SBC Communications Inc. in which SBC changed its name to AT&T Inc.


When a blogger in Arkansas wrote and asked AT&T why they were giving up his phone records AT&T replied with:

** "Thank you for your recent email.
Rest assured, we take customer privacy very seriously. Furthermore, AT&T follows all laws with respect to assistance provided to government agencies. However, we're not in a position to comment on matters of national security
Thank you for choosing the new AT&T - the culmination of AT&T's passion to invent and SBC's drive to deliver. We appreciate your business and continued loyalty. Check out the new AT&T at www.att.com." **



In the never ending saga of the comings and goings of the AT&T brand name and other brands it has either assumed or been absorbed by, "Advertising Age" reported yesterday that the "new" AT&T is now planning to kill off the Cingular Wireless name by 2007 in favor of... you guessed it, AT&T Wireless.
The move, according to the articles link
 http://adage.com/article?article_id=108937
This could cost AT&T hundreds of millions over the coming years as the slowing reforming corporate giant changes what once was AT&T and then became Cingular back now to AT&T yet again.
The previous Cingular parents - SBC and BellSouth - spent reportedly $4 billion to turn the wireless brand, with its well known orange logo, into something of a household name. (5/3/06)
 http://news.digitaltrends.com/article10286.html



A lawsuit by EFF is now pending against AT&T in regard to NSA spying
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060511/cm_thenation/20060320shorrock

Sue the Pants Of Them! 12.May.2006 10:45

Ben Waiting

The lawsuit alleges that AT&T continues to assist the government in its secret surveillance of millions of Americans. EFF, on behalf of a nationwide class of AT&T customers, is suing to stop this illegal conduct and hold AT&T responsible for its illegal collaboration in the government's domestic spying program, which has violated the law and damaged the fundamental freedoms of the American public.


 http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/


Now thats what I have Ben Waiting for!


Cingular = AT&T 12.May.2006 12:51

Anon

I called again and got some customer service rep that tried to refer me to their policy statement and to assure me that Cingular protects my privacy but has to follow the law. I told them I intend to drop my service with them when my contract expires and to go with a company that doesn't sell me out to the government.

ha. 12.May.2006 17:21

this thing here

>some customer service rep that tried to refer me to their policy statement and to assure me that Cingular protects my privacy but has to follow the law.<

"has to follow the law" huh.

if they were truly following the law, the would have done exactly as quest did - realized that the legal rationale for handing over the logs was risky and dubious, and refused to hand them over. then they would have followed the law. particularly the 4th amendment and legal notions such as innocent until proven guilty, and probable cause.

Land lines 13.May.2006 01:59

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I believe the latest flap is over tapping of land lines. That doesn't mean they aren't doing cell phones too though.

Of greater (or at least equal) concern is the fact that they can use GPS type capabilities that are built into ALL cell phones (whether you know it or not) to track your physical location - even after the fact. Cops in NY recently caught a suspect this way.

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From a recent article on Alternet at  http://www.alternet.org/rights/36151/ :

A lesser-known fact: Cell phone companies can locate you any time you are in range of a tower and your phone is on. Cell phones are designed to work either with global positioning satellites or through "pings" that allow towers to triangulate and pinpoint signals. Any time your phone "sees" a tower, it pings it.

That is what happened last month when a New York City murder highlighted the existence of the built-in capability of phones to locate people even when they aren't making calls.

The case of Imette St. Guillen captivated the New York City media as only the murder of a young, attractive, middle-class, white female can. One piece of evidence leading to the arrest of Darryl Littlejohn, the bouncer at the club where St. Guillen was last seen, was what police called "cell phone records." In fact, it was not an actual call that placed Littlejohn at the crime scene. Instead, according to the New York Daily News, police traced Littlejohn's route the day of the murder by tracking the "pings" of his cell phone, which were "stored" in a tower and "later retrieved from T-Mobile by cops."
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