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We ignore this at our peril (internment camps, etc.)

In the face of the coming maelstrom, we can come together in time — whether we're 'leftist,' 'rightist,' 'centrist,' or whatever — to recreate this country in a truly beautiful, healthful way.

Impossible? Well, as Norman Cousins put it, "All things are possible, once enough human beings realize that EVERYTHING is at stake."
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So just how much 'writing on the wall' do we need to see?

As "Star Wars" character Han Solo was heard to mutter at crucial moments, "I've got a baad feeling about this...."

But at the same time, I also have a good feeling that, in the face of the coming
maelstrom, we can come together in time—whether we're 'leftist,' 'rightist,' 'centrist,' or whatever—to recreate this country in a truly beautiful, healthful way.

Impossible? Well, as Norman Cousins put it, "All things are possible, once enough
human beings realize that everything is at stake."

Below, please find
1) A mainstream media article about a recent contract awarding over one-third of a
billion dollars to Halliburton-subsidiary Kellogg, Brown, Root (KBR) for
establishing and expanding internment camps across the United States in
anticipation of (and these are article quotes) "a national emergency" and/or "to
support the rapid development of new programs." (Also note that this figure is
up from just $5.9 million during the last five-year contract cycle; see
 http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/state/13749550.htm).

2) Another online news article about how the President can apparently now—by
fiat— declare the required state of "national emergency" and literally seize
virtually absolute power over the nation, with no checks or oversight whatsoever.

3) Excerpts from two articles by Paul Craig Roberts—a long-time conservative
and former Reagan administration official—who has seen enough writing on the
wall and is now working to alert people of all political stripes as to what's really
going on so that we may stop it before another 'false-flag' 9/11-type event makes
it too late.

4) Excerpts from long-time liberal Michael Parenti's 1996 book Dirty Truths,
which addresses the reality of elites colluding with each other for illegal/unethical
ends (a.k.a., "conspiring").

5) Excerpts from the Declaration of Independence by Thomas Jefferson that are
as sharply relevant today as they were in 1776.

6) Jefferson's passionate idea for establishing grassroots democracy based on
what he called 'ward republics', an idea that could easily be adapted to currently
existing voting precincts

And, no, I am—most definitely—not kidding.

While many past cries of 'wolf' in the area of internment camps turned out to not
reflect much factual reality, the MarketWatch article is quite factual.
The Capitol Hill Blue article about seizing control is less firm, relying on the DC-based
publisher's unnamed White House and DHS sources. But considering the accelerating pace and direction we've been headed since 9/11, it being completely true would come as no surprise.
Well, you'll be the best judges of that, of course.

As for myself: call me cynical, but when I hear talk of many internment camps being
constructed simultaneously across the land—and just ahead of an officially predicted
"national emergency," no less!—my mind usually wanders in disturbing directions.

I mean, wasn't there another national government—about, say... 60+ years ago—that
built and operated a variety of such camps to deal with the ruler's idea of a "national
emergency"?

All sorts of patriotically themed propaganda were used to convince its own citizens to
look the other way, until the deeds were done.


"Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed
without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct. Do
not forget that every people deserves the regime it is willing to endure!" —Sophie
Scholl, co-founder, The White Rose (WWII German resistance group, 1942-43) [If
you can, be sure to see the powerful new film "Sophie Scholl: The Final Days".]

It's an old story, in fact, one that is repeating in our time, as in "right now."

Just because something has a United States flag on it doesn't always mean it's in our
best interest.

[Check out this link for "Entering the Era of Deep Politics" by Byron Belitsos, which
gives some background on our current situation:
 link to www.newtopiamagazine.net
[For documented evidence regarding why it may no longer be possible to just "vote the bums out," check out these links about how, for decades now, more and more elections—local, state, and federal—have been fixed:
 http://www.votescam.com/home1.php
 http://www.blackboxvoting.com

So What to Do?

"[M]y most earnest wish is to see the republican element of popular control
pushed to the maximum of its practical exercise. I shall then believe that our
government may be pure and perpetual." - Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson had some powerful ideas for grassroots democracy that you can find further
below.

But first things first: Start fostering conversations and connections with others in your
immediate vicinity NOW. Start some informal 'brainstorming' sessions; you'll be
surprised what creative, powerful ideas manifest.

Times are coming to this nation that will be more than just 'troubled,' but paradoxically they also offer us an incredible opportunity to co-create a deeper, fuller, healthier
society. A few people at first, then more, then perhaps an alternative local congress
using healthy group process techniques, like these:
* Consensus decisionmaking:  http://www.opencirclecompany.com
* Future search:  http://www.futuresearch.net
* World cafe':  http://www.theworldcafe.com/
* All the above and much, much more:  http://www.co-intelligence.org/

"Be proactive. Forget surviving. We need to reinvent our world. Focus on your
purpose as part of building a better world, and do your best to be of continuous service to those around you."
- Catherine Austin Fitts, former Assistant Secretary of HUD (Bush, Sr. administration) www.solari.com

We can view this news anyway we wish, but we disregard it at our peril.

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 link to www.marketwatch.com
Membership required, but (as of 23 March 2006) one can also find it at:
 link to news.morningstar.com
This news also appears to be crossing the 'party barrier' and can be found on sites 'right' and 'left'... Try Googling a phrase from the article.
[Context: The official ICE-DRO site is at  http://www.ice.gov/graphics/dro/index.htm ]

KBR Awarded Homeland Security Contract Worth Up to $385M
By Katherine Hunt
01/24/06

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co. (HAL) , said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and Customs
Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. The maximum total value of the contract is $385 million and consists of a 1-year base period with four 1-year options. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary
detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and
Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of
immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said. The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster, the company said.
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 link to www.capitolhillblue.com

Bush Could Seize Absolute Control of U.S. Government
By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Jan 13, 2006

President George W. Bush has signed executive orders giving him sole authority to
impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act that
prohibits deployment of U.S. troops on American streets. This would give him absolute dictatorial power over the government with no checks and balances.

Bush discussed imposing martial law on American streets in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks by activating "national security initiatives" put in place by Ronald Reagan during the 1980s.

These "national security initiatives," hatched in 1982 by controversial Marine Colonel
Oliver North, later one of the key players in the Iran-Contra Scandal, charged the Federal Emergency Management Agency with administering executive orders that allowed suspension of the Constitution, implementation of martial law, establishment of internment camps, and the turning the government over to the President.

John Brinkerhoff, deputy director of FEMA, developed the martial law implementation
plan, following a template originally developed by former FEMA director Louis Guiffrida to battle a "national uprising of black militants." Gifuffrida's implementation of martial law called for jailing at least 21 million African Americans in "relocation camps."

Brinkerhoff later admitted in an interview with the Miami Herald that President Reagan signed off on the initiatives and they remained in place, dormant, until George W. Bush took office.

Brinkerhoff moved on the Anser Institute for Homeland Security and, following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, provided the Bush White House and the Pentagon with talking points supporting revised "national security initiatives" that would could allow imposition of
martial law and suspension of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, the law that is supposed to forbid use of troops for domestic law enforcement.

Brinkerhoff wrote that intentions of Posse Comitatus are "misunderstood and misapplied" and that the U.S. has in times of national emergency the "full and absolute authority" to send troops into American streets to "enforce order and maintain the peace."

Bush used parts of the plan to send troops into the streets of New Orleans following
Hurricane Katrina. In addition, FEMA hired former special forces personnel from the
mercenary firm Blackwater USA to "enforce security."

Blackwater USA, in its promotional materials, describes itself as "the most comprehensive professional military, law enforcement, security, peacekeeping, and stability operations company in the world," adding that "we have established a global presence and provide training and operational solutions for the 21st century in support of security and peace, and freedom and democracy everywhere."

Blackwater is also a major U.S. contractor in Iraq and has a contract with the Bush White House to provide additional security work "on an as-needed basis."

The Department of Homeland Security established the "Northern Command for National Defense," a wide-ranging program that includes FEMA, the Pentagon, the FBI and the National Security Agency. Executive orders already signed by Bush allow the Northern Command to send troops into American streets, seize control of radio and television stations and networks and impose martial law "in times of national emergency."

The authority to declare what is or is not a national emergency rests entirely with
Bush who does not have to either consult or seek the approval of Congress for
permission to assume absolute control over the government of the United States.

The White House press office would neither confirm nor deny existence of Bush's
executive orders or the existence of the Northern Command for National Defense.
Neither would the Department of Homeland Security.

But my sources within the White House and DHS tell me the plans are in place, ready for implementation when the command comes from the man who keeps telling the American public that he is a "war time president" who will "do anything in my power" to impose his will on the people of the United States.

And he has made sure that power will be absolute when he chooses to use it.
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 link to www.vdare.com

[excerpts from]Bush Has Crossed The Rubicon
By Paul Craig Roberts
January 15, 2006

Dictatorships seldom appear full-fledged but emerge piecemeal. When Julius Caesar
crossed the Rubicon with one Roman legion, he broke the tradition that protected the
civilian government from victorious generals and launched the transformation of the
Roman Republic into the Roman Empire. Fearing that Caesar would become a king, the Senate assassinated him. From the civil wars that followed, Caesar's grand nephew, Octavian, emerged as the first Roman emperor, Caesar Augustus.

Two thousand years later in Germany, Adolf Hitler's rise to dictator from his appointment as chancellor was rapid. Hitler used the Reichstag fire to create an atmosphere of crisis.


Both the judicial and legislative branches of government collapsed, and Hitler's decrees became law. The Decree for the Protection of People and State (Feb. 28, 1933) suspended guarantees of personal liberty and permitted arrest and incarceration without trial. The Enabling Act (March 23, 1933) transferred legislative power to Hitler, permitting him to decree laws, laws moreover that "may deviate from the Constitution."

The dictatorship of the Roman emperors was not based on an ideology. The Nazis had an ideology of sorts, but Hitler's dictatorship was largely personal and agenda-based.


[While] the dictatorship that emerged from the Bolshevik Revolution was based in
ideology, Lenin declared that the Communist Party's dictatorship over the Russian people rests "directly on force, not limited by anything, not restricted by any laws, nor any absolute rules." Stalin's dictatorship over the Communist Party was based on coercion alone, unrestrained by any limitations or inhibitions.

In this first decade of the 21st century the United States regards itself as a land of
democracy and civil liberty but, in fact, is an incipient dictatorship. Ideology plays only a limited role in the emerging dictatorship
....
President Bush has used "signing statements" hundreds of times to vitiate the meaning of statutes passed by Congress. In effect, Bush is vetoing the bills he signs into law by asserting unilateral authority as commander-in-chief to bypass or set aside the laws he signs. For example, Bush has asserted that he has the power to ignore the McCain amendment against torture, to ignore the law that requires a warrant to spy on Americans, to ignore the prohibition against indefinite detention without charges or trial, and to ignore the Geneva Conventions to which the US is signatory.

In effect, Bush is asserting the powers that accrued to Hitler in 1933. His Federalist Society apologists and Department of Justice appointees claim that President Bush has the same power to interpret the Constitution as the Supreme Court. An Alito Court is likely to agree with this false claim.

This is the great issue that is before the country. But it is pushed into the background by political battles over abortion and homosexual rights. Many people fighting to strengthen the executive think they are fighting against legitimizing sodomy and murder in the womb.

They are unaware that the real issue is that America is on the verge of elevating its
president above the law.

Bush Justice Department official and Berkeley law professor John Yoo argues that no law can restrict the president in his role as commander-in-chief. Thus, once the president is at war--even a vague open-ended "war on terror"--Bush's Justice Department says the president is free to undertake any action in pursuit of war, including the torture of children and indefinite detention of American citizens.

The commander-in-chief role is probably sufficiently elastic to expand to any crisis,
whether real or fabricated. Thus has the US arrived at the verge of dictatorship.
....
Americans are very close to losing their constitutional system and civil liberties. It is
paradoxical that American democracy is the likely casualty of a "war on terror" that is
being justified in the name of the expansion of democracy.
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 http://www.counterpunch.com/roberts02062006.html

[excerpts from]Who Will Save America? My Epiphany
By Paul Craig Roberts
February 6, 2006
....
We have reached a point where the Bush administration is determined to
totally eclipse the people. Bewitched by neoconservatives and lustful for
power, the Bush administration and the Republican Party are aligning
themselves firmly against the American people. Their first victims, of course,
were the true conservatives. Having eliminated internal opposition, the Bush
administration is now using blackmail obtained through illegal spying on
American citizens to silence the media and the opposition party.

Before flinching at my assertion of blackmail, ask yourself why President Bush
refuses to obey the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The purpose
of the FISA court is to ensure that administrations do not spy for partisan
political reasons. The warrant requirement is to ensure that a panel of
independent federal judges hears a legitimate reason for the spying, thus
protecting a president from the temptation to abuse the powers of
government. The only reason for the Bush administration to evade the court
is that the Bush administration had no legitimate reasons for its spying. This
should be obvious even to a naif.

The United States is undergoing a coup against the Constitution, the
Bill of Rights, civil liberties, and democracy itself. The "liberal press"
has been co-opted. As everyone must know by now, the New York Times has
totally failed its First Amendment obligations, allowing Judith Miller to make
war propaganda for the Bush administration, suppressing for an entire year
the news that the Bush administration was illegally spying on American
citizens, and denying coverage to Al Gore's speech that challenged the
criminal deeds of the Bush administration.

The TV networks mimic Fox News' faux patriotism. Anyone who depends on
print, TV, or right-wing talk radio media is totally misinformed. The Bush
administration has achieved a de facto Ministry of Propaganda.

The years of illegal spying have given the Bush administration power over the
media and the opposition. Journalists and Democratic politicians don't want
to have their adulterous affairs broadcast over television or to see their
favorite online porn sites revealed in headlines in the local press with their
names attached. Only people willing to risk such disclosures can stand up for
the country.

Homeland Security and the Patriot Act are not our protectors. They
undermine our protection by trashing the Constitution and the civil liberties it
guarantees. Those with a tyrannical turn of mind have always used fear and
hysteria to overcome obstacles to their power and to gain new means of
silencing opposition.
....
Many patriotic readers have written to me expressing their frustration that
fact and common sense cannot gain a toehold in a debate guided by hysteria
and disinformation.

Other readers write that 9/11 shields Bush from accountability. They
challenge me to explain why three World Trade Center buildings on
one day collapsed into their own footprints at free fall speed, an event
outside the laws of physics except under conditions of controlled
demolition. They insist that there is no stopping war and a police
state as long as the government's story on 9/11 remains
unchallenged.

They could be right [see
 http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/PressRelease30Jan2006.html ].
There are not many editors eager for writers to explore the glaring defects of
the 9/11 Commission Report. One would think that if the report could stand
analysis, there would not be a taboo against calling attention to the
inadequacy of its explanations. We know the government lied about Iraqi
WMD, but we believe the government told the truth about 9/11.
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[excerpts from the 1996 book Dirty Truths by Michael Parenti;
highly recommended for left-leaning patriots everywhere.]
 http://www.questionsquestions.net/documents2/conspiracyphobia.html

Conspiracy Phobia On the Left

Almost as an article of faith, some individuals believe that conspiracies are either
kooky fantasies or unimportant aberrations.
....
Conspiracy is a legitimate concept in law: the collusion of two or more people
pursuing illegal means to effect some illegal or immoral end. People go to jail for
committing conspiratorial acts. Conspiracies are a matter of public record, and some
are of real political significance. The Watergate break-in was a conspiracy, as was
the Watergate cover-up, which led to Nixon's downfall. Iran-Contra was a
conspiracy of immense scope, much of it still uncovered. The savings-&-loan
scandal was described by the Justice Department as "a thousand conspiracies of
fraud, theft, and bribery," the greatest financial crime in history.

Conspiracy or Coincidence?
....
Those who suffer from conspiracy phobia are fond of saying, "Do you actually think
there's a group of people sitting around in a room plotting things?" For some
reason, that image is assumed to be so patently absurd as to invite only disclaimers.
But where else would people of power get together - on park benches or carousels?
Indeed, they meet in rooms: corporate boardrooms, Pentagon command rooms, at
the Bohemian Grove, in the choice dining rooms at the best restaurants, resorts,
hotels, and estates, in the many conference rooms at the White House, the NSA, the
CIA, or wherever. And, yes, they consciously plot—though they call it "planning"
and "strategizing"—and they do so in great secrecy, often resisting all efforts at
public disclosure.

No one confabulates and plans more than political and corporate elites and their
hired specialists. To make the world safe for those who own it, politically active
elements of the owning class have created a national security state that expends
billions of dollars and enlists the efforts of vast numbers of people.

Yet there are individuals who ask with patronizing, incredulous smiles, "Do you
really think that the people at the top have secret agendas, are aware of their larger
interests, and talk to each other about them?" To which I respond, "Why would they
not?"

This is not to say that every corporate and political elite is actively dedicated to
working for the higher circles of power and property. Nor are they infallible or
always correct in their assessments and tactics or always immediately aware of how
their interests are being affected by new situations. But they are more attuned and
more capable of advancing their vast interests than most other social groups.

The alternative is to believe that the powerful and the privileged are somnambulists,
who move about oblivious to questions of power and privilege; that they always tell
us the truth and have nothing to hide even when they hide so much; that although
most of us ordinary people might consciously try to pursue our own interests,
wealthy elites do not; that when those at the top employ force and violence around
the world it is only for the laudable reasons they profess; that when they arm, train,
and finance covert actions in numerous countries, and then fail to acknowledge their
role in such deeds, it is because of oversight or forgetfulness or perhaps modesty;
and that it is merely a coincidence how the policies of the national security state so
consistently serve the interests of the transnational corporations and the capital-
accumulation system throughout the world.
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[These excerpts are just as true today as they were then. (Ed. note: I replaced the words "men" and
"mankind" with "people" to explicitly include both men and women.)]

The Declaration of Independence
by Thomas Jefferson

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all people are created equal, that
they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among
these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
...[T]o secure these rights, governments are instituted among people, deriving
their just powers from the consent of the governed.
....
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be
changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience has
shown that people are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to
right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such government and to provide new
guards for their future security...."
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But in 1784, just before the end of the Revolutionary War, Jefferson made the
following farsighted prediction for his newborn country:

"From the conclusion of this war, we shall be going down hill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion."

More recently, Sophie Scholl (co-founder of the White Rose resistance group in WWII
Germany, 1942-43) wrote:

"The real damage is done by those millions who want to 'survive.' The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don't want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won't take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don't like to make waves—or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honor, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small.
It's the reductionist approach to life: if you keep it small, you'll keep it under control. If you don't make any noise, the bogeyman won't find you.
But it's all an illusion... ."

So what's to be done?

For the short term, see the last few paragraphs of the first part of this email (under 'So
What to Do?').

For the long term, no less than Jefferson himself came up with an idea of 'ward republics.'
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Thomas Jefferson's 'Ward Republics':
Foundation Stones for a New American Democracy

What we desperately need is a grassroots-based public institution through which
we the people can create a shared sense of community, civilly deliberate those
issues we deem important, and then decide together on common actions that
have significant political impact. In fact, it's the very lack of that kind of
institution that is at the root of most of our current crises—political, ecologic,
economic, etc.

Thomas Jefferson saw the "mortal danger" to our republic in an American
citizenry that, while in theory wielding the ultimate political power (via its votes),
did not have any kind of meaningful space through which it could actually
govern itself. Jefferson's solution was to propose dividing each county into a
hundred or so "wards," in which every citizen would play a direct participatory
role.

In fact, today's counties are already conveniently divided into about as
many voting precincts—all carefully mapped by the elections division of
every county government. These precinct maps and associated registered
voter lists are available to anyone to purchase and use as organizing tools.

Proclaimed Jefferson in 1810:
"Could I once see this, I should consider it as the dawn of the salvation of the
republic.... But our children will be as wise as we are, and will establish in
the fullness of time those things not yet ripe for establishment."

Although Jefferson was relentless in his attempts to make his vision a reality, he
was a man ahead of his time who had retired from elective office. Because of his
reduced political influence, Jefferson's desire to see the creation of self-governing
ward-republics was never realized.

How Jefferson's "Ward Republics" Would Work

Jefferson wrote the following description of 'ward republics' in 1816:
"Divide the counties into wards of such size as that every citizen can attend,
when called on, and act in person. Ascribe to them the government of their
wards in all things relating to themselves....
[M]aking every citizen an acting member of the government and...the offices
nearest and most interesting to him will attach him by his strongest feelings
to the independence of his country and its republican Constitution.
These wards are the vital principle of governments, and have proved
themselves the wisest invention ever devised by the wit of man for the
perfect exercise of self-government and for its preservation.
[T]he whole is cemented by giving to every citizen, personally, a part in the
administration of public affairs."

Within each ward, every citizen could become "an acting member of the common
government, transacting in person a great portion of its rights and duties,
subordinate..., yet important, and entirely within his competence."

To Jefferson, "these little republics [the wards] would be the main strength of the
great one [the United States]...."
"The elementary republics of the wards, the county republics, the state
republics, and the republic of the Union, would form a gradation of
authorities, each standing on the basis of law, every one holding its
delegated share of powers, and constituting truly a system of fundamental
checks and balances for the government."

The ward-republics would be the foundation for the political structure of the
nation itself in a four-tiered political system. This system was to be composed of
the following elements and interests, in order of size:
(1) the ward (for "the interests within itself")
(2) the county (for "the local concerns of the counties")
(3) the state (for "the civil rights, laws, police, and administration of what
concerns the state generally")
(4) the federal republic (for "the defense of the nation, and its foreign and
federal relations")

Ward judges and sheriffs, for example, could be directly elected by the ward's
citizens, as would one or two jurors to serve in the county-level juries composed
of jurors elected by all of the county's wards. Regardless of the type of elected position, terms of office would be kept very short, so that no ingrained power structure arose among those elected.

In fact, direct democracy within areas larger than even towns is now quite
practical through modern technology combined with various group process
techniques—consensus decisionmaking, future search, world cafe', etc. (see
the relevant links above). Much of this knowledge was not widely known in
Jefferson's time, but today his "most earnest wish" could soon be realized.

However, as Jefferson himself said,
"If this avenue be shut..., it will make itself heard through that of force, and
we shall go on, as other nations are doing, in the endless circle of
oppression—rebellion—reformation, and oppression—rebellion—reformation,
... and so on, forever."

So it really IS up to us now. Our only realistic, long-term alternative to this
"endless circle" is truly grassroots self-rule using cooperative group processes,
whether based on Jefferson's 'ward republics,' our own pre-existing voting
precincts, or some similar system.

NOW IS THE TIME!

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