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The recent spate of murder by police (another last night) has taught us all one very important lesson, and maybe we should all repeat that lesson at this time: If someone you know is in emotional or physical crisis, do NOT call 911! To do so will most likely result in their termination by the donut swallowers.
In the past month or so, at least three people have been killed by cops after friends, relatives, or passers by called for the police to come and help the person, here in the Portland area.
The case that I am most familiar with is of course, that of Fouad Kaady. The poor man was on fire, probably before his first collision, which of course the cops turned into an assault case. From that event to where they murdered him, he was involved in a couple more collisions. Having been badly burned, he escaped the vehicle, and his remaining clothing, was accosted briefly by a citizen trying to help him with a baseball bat, flipped to the ground by the same citizen, then managed, somehow to make it to the roadway, where he was "seated, indian style, naked, and unarmed, bleeding, with skin hanging from his body, in an apparent catatonic state." The killers with badges arrived, assessed the situation, and according to their own statements, determined that he was unarmed, so "transitioned to less lethal force (tazer)", and began barking orders at him. When he failed to comply with their rash and unthinking commands to lay down on the hot pavement, they tazered him, repeatedly. Finally, when they ran out of charge, he did what any tortured animal would do, he fled to the nearest high place, in this case the roof of their car, and the officers who according to their statements were afraid that he might get his blood on them, determined that they were not going to allow him to touch them, so they terminated his young life. That's rational, that's just the way they do this in Oregon these days. Cowards with guns are far more dangerous than a bloody, naked, unarmed man.
Last night, again, cops were called to help a suicidal man with a gun to finish his suicide by cop. They obliged. Washington, same night similar situation, talked the man down. Shooting is quicker, though, I guess.

Not until one or two of these assholes is shot by someone who feared for his life, and who the grand jury believes with good reason, will we start to be safe again. They are a menace to society.
Viva Zapata!
rack em up 05.Nov.2005 15:41


You could shoot the officers in question, but at this point, it wouldn't stop termination of mentally impaired, incapacitated, or debilitated citizens through the guns of insufficiently or improperly trained police officers. The problem is endemic to much of law enforcemt and will be until responsible, courageous people wake up and work together to change the way that police officers deal with all the different kinds of people that make up the public.

People from different places are working to discover why someone such as Fouad Kaady came to die in the manner he did, so as to stop this from happening in the future. There is information out there related to why police officers are shooting or are otherwise having an unneccessary role in the untimely death of certain members of the public, but to change this egregious habit of law enforcement, that information has to be read, shared, and discussed when it's made available.

Hopefully, we'll be hearing more details about this most recent shooting. As I remember, Vernon Allen was another guy who, in what was probably an impaired frame of mind, goaded simplistically obliging police officers to gun him down in a hailstorm of bullets on Burnside.

Exactly 05.Nov.2005 17:34


You are exactly correct, st. Vernon Allen's story is partially told (again, repost) below, to refresh or inform those of us may have missed it in the hail of bullets local uniformed murderers have been spewing upon the populace of late:

Bloodshed in Infamy on Burnside
author: Dosee
Grand Jury finds all 3 officers who shot and killed Vernon Allen, free of any wrongdoing.
A small column in the Tuesday, 5/31/05 Oregonian reported that the three officers who shot Vernon Allen, the mid-40's, black, knife wielding man, were cleared of any wrongdoing in that shooting by grand jury.

Vernon Allen was shot dead within seconds after officers responded to an early morning call after the officer arriving first on the scene allowed himself to be entrapped in a chokehold by Allen, breaking free just as the officers gained positions of close proximity to Allen, allowing them to cursorily extinguish Vernon Allen's life.

Everybody has an opinion about whether the officers in question responded appropriately with lethal force. The grand jury seems to think they did. Others think they didn't. In some other police/citizen standoff in the state last week, the officer disabled the aggressor with a shot to the leg.

To many, with the exception of the police force, the actions of the three officers, and the underlying recruitment, training, and philosophy of the police force that produces them appears alarmingly inept and unprepared to respond to the needs of some of those who make up today's society. They guarantee that people like Vernon Allen will continue to be remorselessy eliminated.

Three wussy officers rush a starcrossed, depressed and miserable,lamebrain junkie, ex-con knife-wielding blackman with guns raised and intent to kill because, they're just too cynical or sadistic in they're perception of troubled members of society to consider that this unfortunate person deserved a shot other than the ones out of their guns.

I wonder if the establishment will ever care about guys like Vernon Allen. To so many in it, guys like him are simple parasites to be rid of. Members of it may make polite, public displays of compassion, but in their closed quarters, they snort with contempt about the dregs of society as they inhale their martinis.

We, as a society that grants sucess that includes the most minute, yet fundamentally essential needs of basic human existence, upon conduct and productivity obliged to meet certain market demands, produce guys like Vernon Allen. A society that does not effectively attend to the needs of human beings born in its midst produces criminals, murderers, junkies and so forth.

They are our responsibility. To give substance to our idea of ourselves as a humane society, we must take responsibility to care with compassion for those amongst us who haven't made it and possibly never will.

That's not going to happen if society allows its law enforcement officers to nonchalantly blow away these people, whom some find comfortably forgettable.

Blood of Vernon Allen, cynically spilled, forever stains the sidewalk at Burnside and 5th, by the Cabaret Strip Club. If there is a greater, compassionate force watching over us all, it will have those officers never forget, that in their holsters they carry a gun that wantonly obliterated the life of one unfortunate in our midst.

Awesome Post 05.Nov.2005 21:39

Madam Hatter madam.hatter@gmail.com

LN - Once again, great post. I really like your writing and look forward to reading it here. The Kaady's are fortunate to have you (and others here - Red Tree and Den Mark come to mind)as such outspoken, literate advocates. Keep up the good work and the good fight.

Too important to forget 06.Nov.2005 14:43


Mad Hatter, I thank you for your comments. We all must stay vigilant, because murder by cop is becoming the cover up crime d'jour.
Fouad was one of the more sympathetic examples, but of course, no list can be complete without Vernon, Mejiia, Kendra, and may the Godess forgive me, I cannot name them all. Being brown skinned seems to place one at greater risk, but we are all in extreme danger from hyper equipped, undertrained corporate killers. Write to the nice folks in Scott's Mills, and get your sticker. Let us keep his name out in front, for as long as we possibly can.
Again, thank you for your kind words. I am sure that both Red Tree and Den Mark appreciate them as well.

Ignorant thoughts 07.Nov.2005 04:50

"I was there"

First of all it makes me mad listening to the B.S. crap you have to say considering the fact that you where not there. I was, and taking into consideration everythying that happaned...and could have happened... I find it it offensive the B.S. that has been written about this incident. I had no desire to take that man's life and to this day believe it was was a decesion that he made. I have, and will for the rest of my life, think about that day. For the rest of you who can pass on your ego about that day... I hope you will take into consideration the incredibely difficult decision that was made that was made that day in a mattter of seconds. I think every day about what happened...but I still believe I did the right the thing. To all of you who have not not had to deal with was what I believe waas a life and death situation, you can kiss my ass! I had no desire to take that man's life but did what I believed was necessary to protect my life. I will live with the decesion I maade for the rest of my life...but I feel I made the right decision.

grand jury letting somebody off for killing a cop 07.Nov.2005 06:49

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ha haha h ha ha haha

Many people don't realize the official rules are different for cops and human beings. (If they want to be considered human beings they can start playing by the same rules.) No grand jury would ever let a human being off for killing a cop merely because otherwise the cop would've killed him. Ordinary people can't just pop somebody in a public place because they "believe" their lives are in danger. They have to actually be in danger, and not merely from an agent of the state shooting at anything that freaks him out.

yes your thoughts are ignorant 07.Nov.2005 15:25

portland citizen

But they are also understandable. Any social psych 101 book or class will teach you that humans are incapable of thinking of their decisions as being bad or wrong. Every murderer in history thought his or her actions were the right thing to do at the time. And I wouldn't try and force someone to waste his or her life in endless despair over a mistake. However, I see no reason why an officer, when they make a mistake like killing an injured unarmed man, shouldn't be immediately removed from duty. In most professions, when you make a mistake of the magnitude of taking someone's life you are lucky if all you do is get fired for negligence and/or incompetence. As a taxpayer, I want the police force to only be composed of those who can actually handle high stress situations and respond appropriately. Anyone who cannot needs to be removed from the job and replaced with those who can, just like in any other profession. The government cannot use incompetence as a defense for taxpayer funded public servants.

oh fuck you 07.Nov.2005 22:42

you whiny self-righteous murdering motherfucker

You SHOULD think about that day for the rest of your fuckin' life, you asshole, if you're really the guy, until you can admit to yourself that you FUCKED UP BAD! Then you can come back here and APOLOGIZE to everybody for KILLING PEOPLE FOR NO GOOD REASON and also incidentally for POSTING SNIVELING BULLSHIT about it later. The grand jury must have really phoned it in if you still can't even write a convincing e-mail about your big heroic act of self defense.

yeah 07.Nov.2005 22:49

and another thing!

And in any case, "I Was There," the point of this article was that anybody with a friend or relative in crisis is much safer dealing with the problem himself or herself, or calling more friends and relatives, or even doing nothing, than in calling YOUR ass and hoping you're not having another Prozac moment. Which is true, whether or not anybody believes your bullshit about thinking your life is in danger. Go fear for your fuckin' life in the donut shop and let Grandma freak out in the driveway in peace.

re; " I was there", apologists for stone age police officers 08.Nov.2005 01:35


It would truly be something if either or both of the two officers that shot Fouad Kaady were to actually come forward and engage in an open dialogue with the public about the shooting , because to this day, it still does not seem like the public has had a reasonable explanation of what happened that day and why. With what is known today, only hypothetical conclusions can be drawn, and that is really not sufficient to avoid an unending repeat of this kind of tragedy.

At the risk of drawing a lot of outrage for saying so, on one level, hypothetically, given the limited information at hand, I can't blame the officers for shooting Kaady. That's because, after shooting after shooting after shooting, it should be clear to someone in authority and others in a somewhat direct position to affect change in policy, that police officers are not being appropriately trained and prepared to humanely deal with an icreasingly afflicted public. The grand jury found no crime had been committed. The officers did exactly what their training obliged them to do.

On a higher level, even based on the piecemeal, second-hand account of the events of that day the public has been provided with, the officers claim that their lives were in danger to the extent that lethal force was called for in this incident, just doesn't hold up. Naked, burned, bloody,unarmed, they shot him where he stood atop their police car.

He didn't rush them. He just yelled he was going to kill them. So what? How many times in a week does a police officer hear that? They haven't heard that before without killing the person speaking? They didn't even wait for him to begin to get off the car and move towards him or otherwise flee? The officers shot Fouad Kaady as though he was a mad dog, because they were too stupid, insensitive, and poorly trained to recognize him as anything different.

I kind of doubt "I was there" is really one of the officers involved in the shooting. It's doubtful they would have humbled themselves to present a sincere statement on Portland Indymedia regarding the death of Fouad Kaady and their role in it, or consider on this website, that maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong with the way they and their fellow officers are being trained and advised to confront and if need be, subdue members of the public.

They shot Fouad Kaady as though he were a mad dog, period. Most of the public is just too passive to care, knowing, or imagining that for the most part, they or theirs, are unlikely to find themselves in the sights of a cops gun. Recently, some people have talked about a public inquest. I don't actually know much about what that is, but if it would help to get information about this incident out to the public, we should pull out the stops to see that it happens.

By the way, I never did noice any further details about the police shooting Lew Nassa mentioned as a lead to his article. If someone has any, please post them.

Explain yourself 08.Nov.2005 01:57

Sandy Citizen

Hey "I was there", now that you've spoken up, why don't you take this opportunity to try to explain yourself? People here are not only angry and sickened about what happened, but about the secrecy and lack of a coherent, rational explanation. If you feel so justified in what you did, come clean and stop the self-pity.

Can you even give any acknowledgement that it's mind boggling to a lot of us that a naked, burned, bleeding man who, by all accounts, was sitting in a "catatonic" state by the side of the road, before being tased, was any kind of threat to two trained, armed professionals? I WANTED there to be a logical reason for what you did, because the alternatives: a) you screwed up or b) you did it reactively, were just too chilling. But, instead, all I've learned from official sources and the mass media has been selectively chosen and spun BS.

SO, Mr. "I was there", I would really like to hear your side of it. You said "taking into consideration everythying that happaned...and could have happened" ....

WHAT, exactly, COULD HAVE HAPPENED?? I've gotten no rational explanation for this. I read somewhere that you were afraid he would get control of a shotgun - if so, why was this weapon not secured?

I also read you were afraid of getting his blood on you. If so, is that how you respond to all accident victims?

He said he was going to kill you. I don't have the training in crisis intervention that a lot of police are supposed to have received, but it should be fairly apparent that anyone who's obviously unarmed and is facing down and threatening two armed cops is probably not rational - for whatever reason. I also find it interesting that when I reported that my abusive ex used to stand outside my window at night in plain view of my children and neighbors and shout repeteadly that he was going to kill me (and described in gruesome detail how he would do it), I was told there was nothing that could be done about it.

"I hope you will take into consideration the incredibely difficult decision that was made that was made that day in a mattter of seconds." There is no doubt there are many situations in which you have to make difficult decisions quickly. But from what I've read, this wasn't one of them. Yes, you made a decision in a matter of seconds. But why did it get to that point in the first place? Why, oh why, did you have to escalate the situation? There were sirens all over the place that day, couldn't you have waited for backup? Called in medical help, a SWAT team, anything that would have shown you placed some value on this poor boy's life - and everyone else's involved?

"To all of you who have not not had to deal with was what I believe waas a life and death situation, you can kiss my ass!" This is exactly the kind of attitude that so endears the members of the police force to the citizen. Don't you get it? That's the point: NONE of us WANTS to have to deal with what YOU believe was your life and death situation. I'm sure Fouad and his family didn't want to either.

Link to update on LN's article 08.Nov.2005 03:39

Madam Hatter

st - The Oregonian has an article today about it: "Portland police sniper kills armed man" ( link to www.oregonlive.com)
I'll also post the entire article in the reportings and police/legal sections here. It quotes the man's neighbor as saying: "This makes us not want to call the police for help."

I'm not sure if you've seen it, but there's also more details on the recent police shooting out in Willamina/Sheridan of a Grande Ronde tribe member: Marty George. George apparently had quite a checkered history with the law, including a standoff with the police 5 years ago in which he threatened them with a crossbow and was almost taken down then, until the officer involved realized the bow was not loaded.

This time, they were on this guy's trail for most of day before confronting him, in a borrowed vehicle in a muddy field. At which point they got out of their cruiser and demanded that George - who had been eluding them for 9 hours, remember, and had a history of resisting arrest and fleeing the scene - get out and surrender.

According to DA Brad Berry "If you're standing out in the mud, with a 3,000 pound vehicle coming at you, and accelerating, you're in a bad position. In that situation, your life is in danger."

A neighbor said she heard 3 shots, and then lost count. Berry would not say how many shots the officers fired or whether any weapons, drugs or drug paraphernalia had been on the body or in the vehicle.

This guy was obviously no peach, a repeat offender with a drug problem. But once again, I do not see why these cops put themselves in a potentially dangerous situation. I'm also puzzled by the DA's refusal to say whether he was armed or - had drugs or paraphernalia on him. Is being in possession of drugs justifiable rationale for taking a suspect down?????

not to get all 08.Nov.2005 03:54

tinfoil-hatty on you, but

According to the thinly-veiled racist/occult blood-purity ideology that our civilization developed during slavery and then loaned to the Nazis for the Holocaust, people who have illegal drugs in their system, or intend to pollute themselves in such a way, are considered SUBHUMAN.

Like mad dogs, to be shot down in the street.

Bad doggy! Bang bang!

to "I was there" 09.Nov.2005 10:34


Yes, you will have to live with what you have done for the rest of your life. And in part, your pain will be compounded by the fact that you know in your heart that it was wrong for you to get off without penalty for what you did.

It was, indeed, a horrible mistake. I think you know that, and you look for forgiveness. But you have not been made to admit that it was a mistake, and the rest of us have had to live with far too many such "mistakes." Officer Bergin, or is it officer Willard, (I suspect the latter), I have read the mountain of incident reports from this killing, and it's truly disheartening. Not merely that you shot an injured, unarmed man. But that the entire police force then spent more than a month "investigating" the murder by attempting to dig up something, anything, that could make this man seem like someone we should not care about, someone it might have been all right to kill. You failed. There was no dirt, and we do care.

Officer, seek redemption by denouncing a system that would let you off the hook for such a crime, and that would then further victimize the family of your victim in the way it did. Yes, I read your police reports. I read that there were at least 9 witnesses besides the two killers, and all but two of them said very vehemently that the shooting was unjustified. None of them, not one, heard Fouad Kaady screaming "I'm gonna kill you," as you stated in your report. Not one.

I read that you knew when you approached Fouad Kaady that he was badly burned, you could see that he was "covered with blood from head to toe." I read, in your own reports, that he was sitting quietly on the ground when you approached him, burned so badly that skin was hanging from his body, and that he was "in a catatonic state" when you walked up to him.

But you did not call for paramedics. Instead, you barked at him to lay on the ground. Knowing that he was burned, knowing that he was in awful pain, you barked orders at him to lay his burned flesh on the hard ground. Why? And why did you not call for medical assistance? In your own words, you could already see that he was unarmed. Why did you need to force him to the ground, rather than call for medics and wait? But you refused to wait. And you did not want to touch him, because all that blood freaked you out. This is from your own fucking words, officer. You did not want to touch him because he was bloody. So instead, you repeatedly tazed an unarmed, desperately injured man until he finally fell back against the hot pavement and went out of his mind with pain. He leapt up in a daze, and never, ever made a threatening gesture toward you. He never, ever posed a threat to you or anyone else. But you shot him. You shot him because you knew you did not want to have to touch him.

And now, we've all been touched.

We know how the grand jury system works. We know that there's a reason it's all done in secret, and we know that no cop ever has to pay the price for killing the innocent. But we also know the truth. That you committed murder. And then you tried to cover it up by checking into Fouad Kaady's past, searching for any little thing that might have made it publically acceptable for you to kill him. Shit, you even checked the Donald E. Long juvenile facility to see if he had a past record there, as if that could have been remotely relevant to what you did. But he had no record, did he. None. And you asked everyone who ever knew him for dirt. You asked if he took drugs, if he acted strange, if he ever threatened anyone, if he had trouble getting along with his parents. And you found nothing. You found that he was an artist, that he got good grades, that he never did drugs other than a little pot, that he was close to his family, that everybody loved him. No dirt, just a devastated family and blood on your hands after all.

To "I Was There" 03.Dec.2005 00:39


To the officer who shot Fouad Kaady:
You are a persona non grata and in TRUTH, the real danger to us all. Every police officer VOLUNTARILY chooses this career. It is a macho job afterall isn't it? Perhaps it is this "power" over others that is the real impetus for becoming a policeman (woman). I've only met a handful of you that I can stand. Your credo to "serve and protect" is just like most everything else here in our lala land: false advertising and fraudulent.

You did not serve. You did not protect. You killed without remorse and without conscience it appears. In any psychiatrist manual, that is the definition of a psychopath. Oh and as a sidenote on that, the statistics state that the United States of American leads the world in psychopath's - white american males. That this ilk of humans is preponderently walking among us and walking among us in ALL walks of life, makes me feel that the real terrorism stalks us right here in our own backyard and stalks us with legality it seems. Is it any wonder this society is "on edge"? Do you even talk about these things at the police academy?

You, as a representative of those people we call police, make me even more afraid to call on you for ANYTHING. This is bad. Very bad.

Another minor thing: I guess it also doesn't matter whether or not you police officers can spell correctly. I guess that's the least thing that's important in such a job of immense power over everyone. What you represent touches so much of what we the public feel represents you all. Grossly over-rated and very dangerous. Whats to like about that?

One last important thing: If you think so many people in society are so much detritus, then you will get responses from members of society such as is seen here. In your own christian bible, Jesus stated, when asked who was good, stated, "no one is good, but all have fallen short of the glory of God". You apparently have really fallen off the haywagon in your estimation of yourself as a police officer as you appear to have so distanced yourself from real humanity that your judgement so clearly veered far off the mark of the reality of the young Fouad Kaady's human condition of physical trauma in the extreme. What arrogance and what diminishment for all of us who call ourselves human. Your job does not give you ANY right to brutalize to death without REAL cause. You are also diminished and tarnished as much as any member of society that you supposedly have authority over; abused as you have, that authority. I will never respect your profession if it can so brutalize without reason, compassion, tolerance and understanding of those you are "to serve and protect". At this point in time, your profession, like its counterparts, the courts and its officials, overall and in the big picture, reek with injustices, lies, subterfuge, cronyism, corruption and a real disregard for truth. A Public Inquiry on this is not something we should just ponder over, but demand.

P.S. As a person of color, the thought of having to "call the police" is a nightmarish thought with the expectancy of nil, at the least of the violences that could be done to me by your "finest". And I'm a law abiding citizen with intelligence, strength of conviction and a respecter of TRUTH, REALITY, and JUSTICE. I especially worry for having these characteristics - because I know I will probably be lumped in with so much of what you police encounter most of and that is the worst of our human behaviors. My worry is that, like Fouad Kaady, you will not make the distinctions. This is bad. Very bad. For me and for us all.

To "I was there" 07.Dec.2005 05:29


Look, get real...you were afraid for your life over some burned, wounded, likely hysterical man. Well, let me tell you how sick it makes me to hear how you felt your life was in danger, or you were afraid to get a little blood on yourself. Guess what...many wounded and injured people react that way. As a professional it's your job to remain cool and collected under that kind of situation. If you think you are really under that much stress and concerned about your worthless life then go to Iraq...yes, I was there. As a Special Forces soldier who's been in combat twice, I can tell you that there are options when a person remains calm, especially when faced with an unarmed threat. Acting recklessly and trying to justify it as "being under stress" is BS. Believe me when I say, based on the fact the man was unarmed and wounded; you made the wrong decision. If you were any kind of man, you would admit your mistake and accept the consequences.