What You Should Know About the World Can't Wait

take to the street and resist the corporate fascist state which laughingly refers to itself as capitalism. It's a nepotistic fascist system at best. .

that supports what you've said? I'm not doubting you or your info, just curious. Maybe, too, I'm not the only one who extend their curiosity beyond just what is written, and you would be adding greatly to the service you've already done by posting supporting info.

This is an obvious uneducated smear or deliberate smear to try to curb the masses.... Who do you work for??

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never the less - out of the basket, into the street, way past time.

"Have any material that supports what you've said?"

I posted this commentary from Infoshop News. I was not the author. However, I have found some overwhelming evidence from just a simple google search. I suggest anyone interested in this matter (and I believe every egalitarian activist should be interested in this matter), should do a little research on their own.

I suggest for starters to look at the  http://www.worldcantwait.org/ website.

Here is an interview with the Debra Sweet, National Co-ordinator of World Can't Wait in the Revolutionary Communist Party's newspaper.
 http://rwor.org/a/019/debra-sweet-world-cant-wait.htm

Debra Sweet is the founder of the RCP front group Not In Our Name. Source:  link to www.wnpj.org

National Steering Committee member Allen Lang "is the National Student and Youth Coordinator for The World Can't Wait! Drive Out The Bush Regime. . . a member of the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade. . ." source:  http://www.worldcantwait.org/about/

World Can't Wait is prominantly featured on the RCP website:  http://rwor.org/home-e.htm

World Cant Wait proudly supports Not in Our Name, a known Revolutionary Communist Party front group founded by Revolutionary Communist Party member C. Clark Kissinger. Here is a Revolutionary Communist Party article on corporate media and other attacks on Not in Our Name as a front group.

More on the World Can't Wait on the Revolutionary Communist Party website:  http://rwor.org/a/007/world-cant-wait.htm

Revolutionary communists, revolutionary anarchists, revolutionary dentists, I DON'T CARE! As long as it is an activity of resistance, I will be there.

What anyone has to decide things on is based on whether or not the call for 11/2 hits the spot. For me it does. The "evidence" of The World Can't Wait being associated with the RCP could also be interpreted as the RCP never has hid their association and support. The author of this astounding piece of investigative journalism never addresses the heart of the matter: the politics of World Can't Wait and his/her opinion on that. That is the only place meaningful discussion can happen. The rest is diversion. Good night and Good Luck anyone?

Infoshop is right on this one.... RCP Revolutionary Communist Party is behind The World Can't Wait. I'd say, support their protests (since protesting the Bush regime is always a good idea no matter who you're with)-but just don't support the RCP. They are trying to convert anarchists & youth activists to their "one true way". The authoritarian left is going the way of the dinosaur and this is one of their last-gasp efforts to try to revive themselves.

"The most significant thing about the movement against the "War on Terror" is its unexpected spontaneity; its diversity and its global nature. In the lead up to the Iraq war and in the space of a few days, hundreds of thousands of people all over the country and millions around the world initiated or took part in vigils, blockades, teach-ins, and a wide variety of other actions. The real interaction was not between stage and audience, but among the individuals carrying their own homemade signs, handing out their own leaflets, playing their music, doing their street theater, discussing their ideas with friends and strangers, forming affinity groups, discovering a sense of community in the face of the insanity. "

 http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/09/1769911.php

Don't just protest, PROTEST!

just looking at those that put out this call to action. Why not look at the diverse ideologies of those that have endorsed it. Or, better yet, come to our final organizing meeting 10/30 6 o'clock at It's a Beautiful Pizza and experience it first hand.

Cemendur: You seem to proclaim yourself an anarchist and an equalitarian activist, but I proclaim you a piece-of-shit troll!

Cemendur's comment says "Debra Sweet is the founder of the RCP front group Not In Our Name" and then says "Not in Our Name, a known Revolutionary Communist Party front group founded by Revolutionary Communist Party member C. Clark Kissinger".

Here's what I found at one of the links listed by Cemendur (but obviously not intended to be actually read by any of us!) --

from  http://www.wnpj.org/node/914

[About Debra Sweet in 1970]

"But that soft, Midwestern accent spoke especially from the heart of young America. More than the adults, the young appear to have a clearer vision of the inexplicable harm the war is wreaking on this nation.

"What a courageous act. What dignity. She has earned the respect of millions of her peers and her elders. Miss Sweet has earned the right to another medal for bravery.

"A devoted member of the Midvale Community Lutheran Church, Miss Sweet is now working on special assignment with the youth action group of the church's Missouri Synod.

" She has the idealism of youth,' says her pastor, the Rev. Stanley Klyve. We salute her for this selfless idealism and her dedication to humanity."

Debra Sweet is older now [September 24, 2005]. But she has not lost the idealism of youth.

Several years ago, as the Bush administration was banging the drums of war in Iraq, Sweet helped organize the national "Not in Our Name" movement. With advertisements and rallies -- including one in Madison that drew 2,000 people -- that movement proclaimed: "President Bush has declared: You're either with us or against us.' Here is our answer: We refuse to allow you to speak for all the American people. We will not give up our right to question. We will not hand over our consciences in return for a hollow promise of safety. We say NOT IN OUR NAME. We refuse to be party to these wars and we repudiate any inference that they are being waged in our name or for our welfare."

The Not in Our Name movement helped signal to the world that the Bush administration did not speak for all Americans when the president ordered the invasion of Iraq, just as today's mass demonstrations in Washington, D.C., San Francisco and other cities will signal that tens of millions of Americans oppose the continued occupation of Iraq. . . .

Unfortunately, one day of demonstrations will not be enough to end this war. So Debra Sweet is working to put more pressure on the president. She's the national coordinator of a new movement to challenge the Bush administration's policies not just on the war but on a broad range of international and domestic issues. The premise of the movement, which is described more fully at its Web site, www.worldcantwait.org, is that Americans need to organize to challenge not just the administration's policies but its legitimacy. . . .

Available on-line. Free.

 http://www.peace-not-war.org/Music/Chumbawamba/

Chumbawamba:

like a sermon on the mountain
says the dumber got dumb
hellfire and brimstone
swapped for oil and guns
when we're pushing up daisies
we all look the same
in the name of the father maybe
but not in my name

on this Jacob's ladder
the only way up is down
one step from disaster
two to make the higher ground
Jacob's ladder

a million lifetimes
left dying in the sun
in the streets down in Whitehall
dogs picking at the bones
nine eleven got branded
nine eleven got sold
there will be no one left to water
all the seeds you've sown

on this Jacob's ladder
the only way up is down
one step from disaster
two to make the higher ground
Jacob's ladder

and they sent him to the wars
to be slain to be slain
and they sent him to the wars
to be slain

JACOB'S LADDER (NOT IN MY NAME)
written, performed and produced
by Chumbawamba & Davy Graham
from the single "Jacob's Ladder"
© 2002 Mutt Records Ltd
www.chumbawamba.org

"known Revolutionary Communist Party front group"

"latest front group initiated by a marginal communist group"

I haven't heard that kind of talk since the unAmerican Activities Committee days back in the 50's!

kind of talk that I like, from local World Can't Wait organizer (not member of RCP), Lucidapparition

Instead of just looking at those that put out this call to action. Why not look at the diverse ideologies of those that have endorsed it. Or, better yet, come to our final organizing meeting 10/30 6 o'clock at It's a Beautiful Pizza and experience it first hand.

In the '80's and early '90's, RCP members were explicitly (meaning that they called themselves "RCP") involved with some peace (disarmament) and social justice coalitions in PDX.
What I recall about their members (a very vocal minority), was that they often tried to encourage other coalition members to take more and more militant (ie: violent & destructive) actions and positions, even when the expressed purpose of the group or meeting had been already agreed on and people had previously consensed to it being a "nonviolent action".
The RCP's dedication to the use of violence (variously defined, depending on the situation) caused many non-violence oriented groups to frequently be diverted from their meeting's original purpose, and instead spend their time debating with RCP members.
Debate and discussion is never a bad thing, in fact it's healthy in a social movement or group.
The problem, is that RCP reps. often seemed to feel that their agenda takes precedence over everyone else's decisions or direction. Nothing democratic about that.
A lot can be learned from those kind of discussions, though, (including how you personally feel about violence, and what your limits are) and the RCP were never banished from actions, but for those of us who would rather not spend EVERY meeting & action defending our positions and activities against the recruiting efforts of this kind of sectarian left group, the situation can get very tiresome.
I hope that people (esp. young or inexperienced people) will have the good sense to ask lots of questions and seriously weigh information that they hear from RCP'ers and then decide if this is the best way to accomplish our goals- or not.
PS It's telling that the WCW meeting announcements have been anonymous, as to who is organizing it, and that they are "certain" that the cops will be there (really, always safe to assume that). I suggest that people form affinity groups (and networks) with friends that you know well and can trust- then you will be in a good position to take the kind of risks (arrest, jail, getting beaten up) that stopping this insane war in Iraq demands of us.

no doubt the person above met some headstrong RCPers twenty years ago "pushing confrontation." This is quite possible, and entirely beside the point. We all learn with time -- and the RCP has learned a lot. By doing good, by making mistakes -- and by holding it together.

We're on a fundamentally different terrain now than we were back then -- and in these intervening years, I think we've seen enough former radicals turn it in and go to work for the Demorats and so on. The RCP has not. They are fighting for a totally different world where we have power over the decisions that effect our lives. And they aren't just waiting for "the revolution," even if they do understand that we won't pick our opportunities. In the meantime, they are launching a powerful national campaign, that many folks beyond their organization are taking up and making their own.

So let's keep focused, and help bring millions into poltiical life to bring Bush down. If you don't like the RCP, I doubt there's anything I can say on an internet chat that will change your mind. Groups should be judged by what they are actually doing -- and the criticisms above, while possiblly historically valid, have little to do with where we are ALL at today.

See you in the street -- and try to bring your whole job or school with you. Make it yours.

November 2 is just the beginning. This is a for-real campaign and not a one-shot protest. It is a rally for the coming fight.

Anonymous said, "Debra Sweet is the founder of the RCP front group Not In Our Name" and then says "Not in Our Name, a known Revolutionary Communist Party front group founded by Revolutionary Communist Party member C. Clark Kissinger". "

Yes, so they are two of the founders. No contradictions. Sure Debra Sweet has other affiliations other than the RCP. Whats the point? If the information was not meant to be read, I would not have posted it. Nor would I suggest that everyone do their own research. I am not here to tell you how to think. I am asking for people to think for themselves and do their own research. Don't rely on the self-proclaimed leaders to tell you what to do.

Oh, yeh the old "red baiter" card. Gotta' love that one. The Revolutionary Communist Party is a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Party run by Chairman Bob. It has an extraordinarily authoritarian cult following. For anyone against genocide, which they have repeatedly supported (as Maoists have committed) this has to be a concern. I certainly would not support a call put out by a Nazi front group (and yes their are Nazi "anti-war" front groups). Likewise, I am opposed to supporting a call by Chairman Bob.

Some of my best friends are reds, anti-state socialist, anarcho-communists and democratic socialists, this is not about socialism. I am a libertarian socialist, an anarchist. This is about a small cadre of authoritarian socialists who are trying to coopt a _diverse_ movement for its own ends.

Think about it.

In my experience the RCP has never advocated violence and many of these comments can be considered attempts to either set them up in future actions or arrests, or to illegalize them in the future. Or else they're (dis)misinformed.

I am the organizer for the Nov. 2nd event in Portland. I'm not a communist, nor am I a member of RCP. I just want our votes to count. I want us to be in control of our own government, the way we used to think we were. And, I want Bush out. Thats all. I hope that all groups and people, from all sides of the spectrum, can come together on this. Thats the only way we have a fighting chance. Unity.

I am a revolutionary communist, and a supporter (but not a member, and don't represent them in any way) of the Revolutionary Communist Party. The RCP is involved with the WCW, as well as NION, but their are not the RCP. I think we should work together - anarchist, communists, et. al - to drive Bush out...but I wonder about people who tell others NOT to go to protests because communists are involved...?

It sounds like good old McCarthyism to me!

That person should read this:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Much love to the WCW & their organizers!

Don't follow the red-baiter!

Much love to our Anarchist friends & comrades!

Patrick Ryan
 http://celticfire.blogspot.com/

The people in power right now love these arguments!

Lets get some focus people!!! And squabble about authority and and ideology after we've made some actual progress, which we have not come close to yet.
Hitler destroyed Europe because of the exact same bullshit that is happening right now on the left. GET OVER YOURSELF, AND GET IN THE STREET!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously, taking part in this action will result in the death of millions. Infoshop sez so, after all!

Thanks for the factional backbiting, Infoshop!!

Whatever we do, W MUST NOT WORK TOGETHER!

<sarcasm off now>

I'll be brief because,um, OH YEAH, WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO POUR INTO SEATTLE ON WEDNESDAY. So I guess they didn't get your "info" memo.
To whoever is trying to use anti-communism to warn people away from the 2nd: Do you, or do you not want to see the Bush regime driven from power? If you do, then get real and organize people to do so. If you are not for real, then stop wasting our time with supposed "arguments" for why people should not join in. Obviously you are either not in touch with the tremendous potential for the masses of people to change the world, or you stand in opposition to it. In either case, you are in the minority.
For those who are very disturbed and angry by what they see as a regime on a course to remake society in a fascistic way, then be a part of the 2nd. Yes, join forces with the RCP, with Mumia Abu
Jamal; theProgressive Democrats of America; Howard Zinn and Cindy Sheehan and thousands of others who are determined not to let the Bush regime continue to rule. The strength of this movement is in its diversity. Anyone who counters that with "the RCP is involved" obviously sees this diversity as an obstacle and isn't serious about changing the world.
I know, I know, you guys who posted your anti-communist rant are going to go to your "anti-RCP" file and pull out something along the lines of "Those people endorsing are dupes to the sectarian,authoritarian, communist, blah, blah blah...." ad naseum. You write this shit because you have no substance to your criticism and your only tactic is to stand on the sidelines and wildly gesticulate. Well, get out of the way, because history is being made -and fortunately not by you!

For those who want to see this regime driven from power go to www.worldcantwait.org for the latest on what's happening regarding November 2nd. And hook up with your local chapter, or create your own---this is just the beginning.


-A Seattle Organizer for WCW ---no wait, a pawn in the vast Communist-Wing Conspiracy....

I am called a McCarthyist and a red baiter for pointing out that the RCP supports genocide, is controlled by a single person with a small cadre, and creates front groups which do not allow for any democratic decision making. This is just the kind of non-response I expect from the RCP.

The RCP is a participating organization in the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement, a semi-clandestine federation of Marxist-Leninist-Maoist parties around the world whose most prominent participants include the Communist Party of Peru (Shining Path) and the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist). They also maintain friendly relations with the Communist Party of the Philippines and the "Naxalite" peasant movement in India.

Shining Path has "murdered peasant families and leftist leaders. Most often, victims are killed in full view of their family or community. Sometimes they are hanged and sometimes shot, but often an execution-squad member — in many cases a woman — delivers the coup de grace with a knife. . . Sometimes a man who has just finished casting a mandatory vote in a national election will have the finger with the telltale electoral ink hacked off." Alma Guillermoprieto

"The report we hand in contains a double outrage: that of massive murder, disappearance and torture; and that of indolence, incompetence and indifference of those who could have stopped this humanitarian catastrophe but didn't." - Salomón Lerner, Chairman of the Peruvian Truth and Reconciliation Commission

If you've never heard of the Shining Path, I recommend doing a little home work. These are the closest allies of the "Revolutionary Communist Party".

If you've never heard of Mao, I recommend doing some research. For he is the founding gospel of the RCP and thus for the leadership of Not In Our Name and What is to be Done. Along with Hitler and Stalin, Mao carried out one of the bloodiest campaigns of mass genocide in the 20th Century.

The worst genocides of the 20th Century:

Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1934-39) 13,000,000 (the purges)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
Mao Tze Dong (China, 1966-69) 11,000,000 (Cultural Revolution)

To expose Nazi front groups, explain Nazi philosophy, and then remind people of the Holocaust is not to engage in "backbiting" or divisive. It is to call the thugs for what they are. Likewise pointing out Maoist front groups, explaining Maoist philosophy, and then reminding people of the Red Holocaust is not backbiting or divisive. It just makes sense.

Mao was responsible for committing mass genocide against anyone advocating any form of "democracy" or grassroots control. The philosophical justification for this was the philosophy of "democratic centralism" (sic).

Maoism or Mao Tse-tung Thought is a variant of Marxism-Leninism derived from the teachings of Mao Zedong (1893-1976). In the People's Republic of China (PRC) it is the official doctrine of the Communist Party of China. Since the reforms of Deng Xiaoping started in 1978, however, the definition and role of Mao Tse-tung's ideology in the PRC has radically changed. The RCP opposes these reforms.

Unlike most other political ideologies, including other socialist and Marxist ones, Maoism contains an integral military doctrine and explicitly connects its political ideology with military strategy. In Maoist thought, power comes from the barrel of the gun, and the peasantry can be mobilized to undertake a "people's war." This involves guerrilla warfare using three stages. The first stage involves mobilizing the peasantry and setting up organization. The second stage involves setting up rural base areas and increasing co-ordination among the guerrilla organizations. The third stage involves a transition to conventional warfare. Maoist military doctrine likens guerilla fighters to fish swimming in a sea of peasants, who provide logistical support.
"Education in democracy must be carried on within the Party so that members can understand the meaning of democratic life, the meaning of the relationship between democracy and centralism, and the way in which democratic centralism should be put into practice. Only in this way can we really extend democracy within the Party and at the same time avoid ultra-democracy and the laissez-faire that destroys discipline. " "The Role of the Chinese Communist Party in the National War" (October 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 205.

Two WCW organizers respond. The "coordinator for Portland WCW" and the "Seattle WCW Organizer". Both anonymous, imagine that.

Any communist who opposes Maoist control is labeled "anti-communist" and a "red-baiter". As a libertarian communist, I find these accusations of red-baiting and of anti-authoritarians being anti-communist (coming from the RCP) to be extraordinarily offensive.

Cemendur,

Copy-and-pasted arguments with NO sources don't impress me- do they you?
People say communists are dogmatic---wow....

I also have some sources:

Social and Economic Achievements Under Mao
 http://rwor.org/a/1248/mao_china_setting_record_straight.htm

The Truth About the Cultural Revolution
 http://rwor.org/a/1251/communism_socialism_mao_china_facts.htm

On the Role of Mao Zedong by William Hinton
 http://www.monthlyreview.org/0904hinton.htm

Twelve-year-old girls sold into sexual bondage for the price of a goat.
Nike sweatshops grinding up lives for $1.56 a day.
Women killed for breaking feudal and religious traditions.
Starvation and AIDS ravaging the people of Africa.
140,000 U.S. soldiers kicking down doors, and killing people in Iraq.
Planet Earth, right now, is really a totally messed up place. But is another world possible? Can humanity ever get rid of the oppressive inequalities between countries, nationalities, men and women? Is there a path for the future of humanity other than McWorld globalization or the jihad of religious fundamentalism?

The U.S. government and their mouthpiece media will say to you: "Yes, we know the regime in Nepal is brutally killing, torturing, and jailing thousands of people... but we have to stop totalitarianism and keep this country from becoming a failed state... we have to help the democratic process..."

When you hear this, stop and THINK. "Stop totalitarianism" (See: Revolution is Authoritarian) means: Crush the revolution. "Help the democratic process" means: Promote and enforce the process that keeps oppressors and exploiters in power to rule over a system that enforces a cruel caste system, crushing poverty, feudal women's oppression and the systematic discrimination of ethnic minorities. "Preventing a failed state" means: Ensuring U.S. strategic interests in the region and the world AND making sure that a liberated country doesn't emerge as a real model and alternative for the people of the world.

This is what U.S. intervention in Nepal is about enforcing.

U.S. Intervention in Nepal: Lies, Hypocrisy, and Reality
by Li Onesto
 http://rwor.org/a/015/support-peoples-war-nepal.htm
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I didn't mean to offend anyone, especially the anarchists and libertarian communists, because I think we have a lot in common and a lot of common interests...but I think anyone who says we shouldn't work together is ultimately helping the Bush regime. We can discuss ideology, history in a comradely way...but if anarchists and communists of other ideologies didn't come just because the RCP is involved -- what does that say about the radical left?

LETS JOIN TOGETHER TO DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME! PROTEST NOV 2 @ PIONEER SQUARE AT NOON!!!!

William Murray:

Did Cemendur post a name? Is that person even in Portland ... or the northwest? Does that person just bee-bop around IMC sites blasting the RCP? I don't know...but the person claims anarchists and others shouldn't unite to drive out against the Bush regime...do you agree with that?

I have a lot of anarchists friends and I think we should come together to fight Bush. McCarthyism is what Cemendur was doing: the evil boogey (wo)man communists! BOO! A nice holloween story, but lacks truth.

Lets fight Bush together and lose the sectarian stuff!

World Can't Wait spokeswoman (1) Sunsara Taylor is a Revolutionary Communist Party leader.

"Sunsara Taylor is an initiator of The World Can't Wait - Drive Out the Bush Regime. Over the years she has emerged as an important leading voice of a new generation rediscovering the dream of revolution and picking up communism as it is being creatively re-envisioned by Bob Avakian, Chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party." (2)

She is the spokeswoman for the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade(3)

1) Source, World Can't Wait Press release:  http://www.worldcantwait.org/press.html

2) Source, Sunsara Taylor's blog:  http://www.blogger.com/profile/5613406

3) Source, Sunsara Taylor's blog and the New York Times:
 http://sunsaranews.blogspot.com/

additional source, Not in Our Name:  http://www.nion.us/churchandstate.htm

Stalin was never remotely a communist. He crushed popular revolt, dissolved (and killed) the actual workers' soviets, and created a state capitalist system that replaced the old aristocracy with a new aristocratic bureaucracy that was against real socialist progress. To buy into the McCarthyist propaganda that Stalin was an actual communist belies a serious disconnect with reality.

Stalin merely used communist rhetoric to uphold his own power and justify his dictatorial actions. Calling Stalin a "communist" is like calling Bush II "pro-democracy". Both of their false, over-employed rhetoric doesn't match their actions even a little bit.

All I got to say is that Boots Riley from the Coup is doing PSA for it, so I guess that says something.

Seriously do Anarchists really care if PPRC/howard Dean/RCP/Democrats/socialists are organizing the events against BUSH? Right now, friends of my enemy our friends of mine.

Some good points brought up on both sides. Personally i don't think that anyone from the RCP advocates genocide, though following Maoist teachings isn't such a great idea. Just goes to show that power eventually corrupts, the state will always destroy the spirit of the people..

the same debate about the RCP is happening on SFimc, here's a comment copied from there;

 http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/10/1779770_comment.php#1779870

Let's go with the worst case scenario, the World Can't Wait group was and is initiated and controlled by members of the RCP. Let's all stay home and type on the computer now? Go to class and follow the rules? Maybe watch some TV, or head to the coffee shop for a latte and complain how the evil RCP communists ruined everything??

There's always going to be a front group of people whom we don't all agree with. That's fine, i didn't really go for the Int ANSWER position of red socialism either, though i did go to some of their organized marches and also some break-away marches initiated by some random anarchists after the organized ANSWER march. Bet if we got to talking a while i would disagree with a lots of their personal ideas about anarchism also, as they would with my opinions. It isn't written anywhere that we all need to think alike. The Zapatistas said it best, "A world in which many worlds are possible and exist." or something to that extent..

So does marching with the WCW people make u into a radical Maoist RCP robot overnight? Are the RCPers secretly planning to release micro-nanobots that will tunnel inside the skulls of all march participants, rendering them helpless to the teachings of communist ideology in just a few hours time??

The greatest risk in that realm is the right wing neocons releasing some non-contagious flu bug like the Tularemia they may have released last time on the 24th. If the right wing neocons sent military weapons grade anthrax to the Demoncraps, don't think they won't try it on the people at the WCW march. That doesn't mean don't go, just be aware and prepared for something that could make people ill. Maybe invest in some Vitamin C supplements, or wolf down some fresh garlic (with an alkaline buffer to protect stomach) to boost your immune system. Try to avoid refined sugar (immuno-depressant) products for a few days before and after. If suffering from a chronic weakened immune system, bring a surgical mask to protect from microbes in addition to above measures. The right wing neocons are getting desperate and will stop at nothing to stifle dissent and public opposition to the Bush regime..

"My enemy's enemy is my friend" Yeah, for now, but soon as we dispose of the Bush regime i'll be fighting the new leaders tooth and nail, whomever they are. In the meantime we can agree to disagree with the RCP, various personal ideology, whatever, and focus our collective energy on removing the Bush regime from their position of illegally gained power..

" Q: But aren't there communists in World Can't Wait?

A: Yeah, there are. Supporters of the Revolutionary Communist Party helped initiate it."

 http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/10/1779770_comment.php#1779870 - 6th question down.



Heres an argument from the bay.

"You know, it is totally valid to attack the RCP for their blatant authoritarian politics and decide not to join their attempts at revolution because the world after their revolution would still suck, it would just be them in power. For those of us who are anti-authoritarian it becomes a rather important question. Do you ally yourself with this particular action, which calls for the end of one particular regime to end one particular war? Or do you focus your energy on the bigger picture, the end of all regimes, the end of war? These two things don't have to be mutually exclusive to be sure. But we must be careful both in what we denounce and what we support. People in my area didn't organize around the WCW nov 2 stuff because we don't think that the Bush administration is the problem here and we're not about to throw our support and organizational weight behind a group that would just kill people like us anyway if they came to power. After every revolution comes a consolidation of power. In those consolidations people die to prevent the re-rev. People like the RCP want revolution in the style of a power grab followed by a consolidation. Maybe we should all think about ways to reorganize power and power relationships to create worlds in which people have power, not parties. Power in the hands of a party and a leader is dangerous. Power in the hands of people is a beautiful thing.

By the way, to denounce those of us with anti-authoritarian politics as disingenous or as cops or FBI infiltrators because we are wary of working with folks like the RCP is silly and dangerous. The later certainly isn't an accusation to just be tossed around.
kc" - http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/10/1779770_comment.php#1779870


Sounds perfectly fine to me. Fuck the RCP. Stop all the authoritarians.