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Karl Schwarz: Unfortunate Son

The Real Karl Schwaz complete with downloadable supporting documentation:
Karl Schwarz: Unfortunate Son by "Madame Karnak" for YayaCanada.com Download supporting documents at: http://www.yayacanada.com/9-11-4d_download.html See Madame Karnak's comments on Karl Schwarz's debate with 911Team8+ at: http://www.yayacanada.com/9-11-4e.html June 5, 2005 Note from YayaCanada: Soon after I posted my questions about Karl Schwarz "Who is Karl Schwarz...", I was contacted by an American woman who offered to do some interviews and research and write it up for me. The article below is the result of her considerable efforts. I have verified the identity of this person, her address, her phone number, and even her driver's licence number, and have talked with her at length on the telephone. Unfortunately, neither she nor anyone of the long list of sources who contributed information for this article wants to be publicly named. They all feel that Karl Schwarz is "vindictive" and want nothing more to do with him. The pen name she has chosen is of course a take-off on one of the late Johnny Carson's comic personae, but this woman is dead serious about the necessity to prevent Karl Schwarz from gaining any kind of leadership of the legitimate 9-11 truth movement and thus destroying its credibility. Anyone who is interested in contacting this author about future articles (for which she will no doubt give her real name) should feel free to email me, and I will forward all requests to the author. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AMERICAN HEARTLAND---May 27, 2005—What does one call a man who has spent the greater part of his life luring people to invest in schemes that never work out? More charitable people might say that Karl was a dreamer or a Walter Mitty type. Some might call him a grifter, others might call him a hustler and still others, a con man. Regardless, the one thing that Americans cannot afford to call him is President. It would not be a change for the better. Very much like the current President, Karl Wilhelm Schwarz hasn't had a successful business. His dreams and stories have always outstripped his realities. Unlike Dubya, Karl did not use those dreams cynically. He believed that he could make his dreams into reality. At least, it appears that he did in the beginning. Karl Wilhelm Schwarz, also known as Bill Schwarz, also known more recently as Karl W.B. Schwarz, was born on May 1, 1951, to a blue collar family in Arkansas. His father, Norris Schwarz, abandoned Karl and his two siblings, Robert and Viki, when Karl was only 9. For weeks, the slight, blue-eyed boy sat on his porch waiting for his dad to come home. His mother, Robbie, with the help of his grandmother, raised the three kids by herself. Much like her son, Robbie was a dreamer. She dreamed of instant riches, compulsively gambling and squandering the family's meager assets. Furtively borrowing from her mother's savings earned in the local sewing factory, Robbie managed to stay just ahead of her creditors. Finally, Robbie remarried and the family had stability for a while. Robbie's new husband was James Dickson. They would have a child together, James Jr. Karl was close to his stepfather and supported him through legal troubles that incarcerated Jim Dickson when Karl was a young man. Exceptionally bright, and gifted with a near photographic memory, Karl learned quickly. He attended the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville for three years, but did not graduate. Instead, anxious to get out and make money, Karl took an exam that gave him an architecture license without a diploma. The state architect licensing board reported that: "Karl Wilhelm Schwarz was licensed as an architect in Arkansas on February 22, 1982. His license to practice in Arkansas was revoked due to failure to renew his registration July 31, 1985. He would not be eligible to become licensed in Arkansas as an architect because Arkansas now requires a five (5) year degree in architecture." With his architecture license as an entrée, Karl associated himself with three other men of the firm, Turner, Dyer and Alessi. He quickly came up with a scheme to build a "slack water harbor" in Helena, Arkansas. For those unfamiliar with this term, "slackwater" harbors are large ditches dug from deep rivers to a specific point inland. The idea is to give a city without a seaport, access to over water transportation. While this might have been a great idea in the days of the mighty riverboats, it hasn't been the big industry or tourist attraction it often is sold as. Convinced that his idea would create a tourist attraction, generate new industry and lots of cash for everyone, Karl raised money from everybody that he knew and from anybody that anyone else knew. Relentlessly charming and industrious, Karl persuaded his sister's husband's father's friends to invest. Member of large Italian families from New York, those friends of inlaws gave Karl about $300,000. One hundred thousand came from local affluent families; about $200,000 came in from friends, and a trusting banker at the Worthen Bank lent Karl around $100,000. The money went quickly. $90,000 on a feasibility study, a salary for Karl, options on land that might be profitably developed, offices and entertainment of clients. Even the Arkansas Times ran a story in 1983 on Karl and his amazing plan. For a couple of years, things looked rosy mostly because ignorance can be bliss. Secretive by nature, Karl managed to keep his investors from discovering the disarray in the project. By 1985, it was clear that the harbor wasn't happening. The Worthen bank called their note. Typical of traditional Southerners, this had been a handshake deal. When the trusting, elderly banker learned that the loan couldn't be repaid, his heart seized. He died. Others were ruined. They lost their savings, investment properties and their homes. Some interviewees asked that their names not be mentioned either because remembering the deal's repercussions was too painful or because remembering how a friend fleeced them cut too deeply for words. Within his personal life, Karl was as secretive and chaotic as his business. Married young to Lois Love, by 1985, they had a young son, Ryan who was the apple of his mother's eye. Lois had problems conceiving because of her anorexia-bulimia. When she controlled her need to purge enough to be able to conceive, she was overjoyed. While Lois reveled in motherhood, Karl was frequently gone. At first, he was out working investors in the slackwater harbor. Then he took up hunting or at least that is what he told Lois although he seldom brought home any game. Finally, it became clear that something else was going on. Karl was hunting, but not deer. He was pursuing a woman, Marilyn McDougald Moody. Karl has called her "the love of my life" to many people who have corresponded with him via email. Lois asked Karl whether he wanted to work on their marriage or give up. He moved out the next day. A week or so after Karl's departure, Randy Lee Moody, Marilyn's husband phoned. He was trying to collect on a hot check of Karl's. Comparing notes, Randy and Lois discovered that Karl's "hunting trips" appeared to coincide with Marilyn's overnight visits at girlfriends or "out of town" forays. Randy and Lois became friends through this difficult time. Later they would marry and sue Karl for unpaid child support. Karl and Lois's divorce battle turned bitter quickly. There are over 12 years of court records reflecting the blood-soaked turf of child custody, child molestation allegations, property divisions and much more. Howard Lovy's Nanobot blog, Portland Indymedia Blog and PicassoDreams have run queries and located the voluminous court records available. Attorneys on both sides suggest that the depositions, replete with tales of a CIA/mob connection, and various other "fantasies" were entertaining, but factually impaired. When Karl was ordered to quitclaim a piece of property to Lois, he made out a quitclaim to an incorrect address and then attempted to unload the property by forging Lois's name. This resulted in another lawsuit against Karl and could have landed him in jail. But, like so many of Karl's adventures, when admonished about the illegality of his actions, he blamed the situation on other people. Throughout the peregrinations of fortune that Karl experienced, he failed to pay the $35 a week pittance ordered as child support. Even when he was flush, Karl did not pay $140 a month to maintain his son. Eventually, after the arrears reached $6,000, Karl was sent to the county jail by a judge who called him a sociopath before sentencing him. While in jail, a church with a fundamentalist orientation sent members to visit Karl and even lent him a car when he left. Perhaps praying to get out of jail with these church members is where Karl began what he has described as his prison ministry in his book, "One Way Ticket to Crawford." For 12 years after the harbor fiasco, Karl dodged creditors and set up other businesses that failed. In 1987, he created a "digital video business" under Marilyn Moody Schwarz's name with Thurman B. Patterson as the only other officer. Marilyn and her two children fared no better than Karl's son Ryan in that he did just about as well supporting them as he did his son. Their lives were filled with chaos and poverty. Karl and Marilyn filed for bankruptcy in1992. The following citations of this case are taken from the PACER online federal court information system. 4:92-bk-41522 Karl Wilhelm Schwarz and Marilyn Schwarz Case type: bk Chapter: 7 Asset: No Vol: v Judge: Mary Davies.Scott Date filed: 06/17/1992 Date discharged: 09/15/1994 The records show that the bankruptcy was discharged near the end of 1994. Karl moved the family to Maryland to start over, but quickly became embroiled in yet another get rich quick scheme. From what can be pieced together, Karl convinced a number of investors to pool money to lease or option an office building that the GSA indicated interest in buying. When the GSA bought the building directly from the owner, Karl sued. When the case was dismissed in Maryland as groundless, Karl and Marilyn returned home to Little Rock. Again, my thanks to the blogs who have done the research. Back in Little Rock, Karl purchased a 5,000 square foot house in Chenal Circle that he could not make the payments on. Eventually, the utility companies turned off their electricity and water. Karl and Marilyn lived in this huge house, bathing and washing with the water from a neighbor's hose. Occasionally, that same neighbor would invite them over for a hot shower. After much wrangling, with Karl appearing pro se (as his own attorney), the house was repossessed. Marilyn, tired of the chaos of the "Life with Karl" daily drama, filed for divorce. By 1997, things were again at rock bottom. Karl had filed for a second bankruptcy to avoid both creditors and paying Marilyn a property settlement. Even though she entered marriage with a house, it is not clear that she left with anything. Yet another victim of the Karl Express to Glory train of financial gain. Casting about for something to do, Karl became very interested in telecommunications and the Internet. It is not clear whether he or cronies set up the e*Capbank and the GlobalAxxess sites. Both were part of an attempt to secure funding to take over failing telecommunications companies. Karl intended to purchase these companies with OPM and meld them into a worldwide conglomerate with himself at the helm. The deals failed, because despite all the effort expended (i.e. a Delaware LLC., an Arkansas corporation, an Antigua trust), Karl could not find the money to make the deals happen. Actually, there was another problem. Karl's proposal to save Global Crossing violated a number of pension and other agreements. The fact that Karl lacked the experience to run a huge conglomerate was just a little fly in the ointment compared to his finances. Throughout the 2000, 2001 and 2002, Karl worked his GlobalAxxess, Commaxxess activities. He never acquired any of the companies that he targeted and Chiaro has not confirmed that he had any relationship with them. There is a judgment of $2 million against Karl by UUnet. As of this date, it is not clear whether they have any way to collect on this judgment. According to Arkansas's Secretary of State, Department of Corporations, GlobalAxxess and Commaxxess have had their charters revoked. In Delaware, the names for GlobalAxxess Holding Inc is available. That's a good indication that the state revoked the company's charter. When asked about how he jumped from real estate to telecommunications, Karl explained that he learned all this high finance as a broker. A search of the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) yielded no - absolutely no - license for a Karl W. Schwarz, a Karl W.B. Schwarz or derivatives thereof. Flash forward to another Karl venture circa 2002. Reichenbach Group, LLC, a publishing company formed by T.B Patterson, would publish Karl's book, "One Way Ticket To Crawford, Texas." When the book was available, the newly christened, Karl W. B. Schwarz began to make the rounds of the Internet sites relating to 9/11. He wrote a series of articles entitled, "Pop Goes the Bush Mythology." Doubtless, Karl's energetic evangelizing of this topic revealed many fundamental questions about 9/11. It galvanized people's interest. Karl sold these ideas as he sold so many of his schemes. Unable to resist self-aggrandizement, Karl tried to add gravity to his efforts, by portraying himself as a big player within the Republican National Committee (RNC). A search of the FEC records at Political Money Line turned up no political contributions made by Karl Schwarz or his company Patmos. He further embellishes his image with his claims of being the CEO of a nanotechnology firm, Patmos. Actually, many of his trips to speak about 9/11 have had a dual purpose; he is also seeking investors for Patmos. Interestingly enough, many of Karl's targeted investors are women, wealthy women. Those who have watched him in action opine that Karl's goal is to find an extremely wealthy woman who can keep him and his dreams in the lap of the luxury that he'd like to believe he was born to. Patmos has been his vehicle for gaining access to these women. There are many of them, too. Deborah on the west coast, Paula in Georgia, Amy, a nurse in Canada, to name a few. Like so many Schwarz ventures, Patmos is more idea than reality. Searches of international and national patent databases conducted via the US Patent office yield no intellectual property under the name Patmos, Patmos Nanotechnologies, Karl W.B. Schwarz, Karl Schwarz, Carl Schwarz, Bill Schwarz or any combinations thereof. Searches of pending patents also yield no results. There are patents under Karl Q. Schwarz and Benjamin Schwarz, but not only do these not share the name of Patmos' CEO, but the patents are not "assigned" to the company. Searches of nanotechnology sites and postings left there indicate that in the small community of materials science, Karl Schwarz is not a recognized name. In Arkansas, where Patmos is incorporated, the department of securities has never heard of Patmos, which means there are no shareholders. So, considering that Karl W.B. Schwarz is as hollow a man as Dubya, why does he hate him so? An educated guess might be that Dubya hasn't been caught and Karl has. Both have deceived and betrayed, but one man was a fortunate son whose wealth and familial connections obviated his need to ever pay the piper for his fiscal, moral, ethical and personal misdeeds. The other son wasn't so fortunate. Author's note: Many people were interviewed for this article. Public government sources provided information on licensing, business licenses, court cases and other aspects of the story. Some information was also gleaned from the web. See Karl Schwarz's response to this article at: http://www.yayacanada.com/9-11-4c.html

homepage: homepage: http://www.yayacanada.com


funny response 05.Jun.2005 09:16

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(your an agent - no your an agent)

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Karl Schwarz goes on the offensive

From: "Karl W B Schwarz" < kwbschwarz@comcast.net>
To: yayacanada.com
Cc: "'Meria Heller'"; "'Amy Sasser'"
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:50 PM

Hello Corinne,

We had already anticipated shills such as yourself popping to tell "half the story". My campaign website will have the full story under full disclosure section, including polygraphs a certain ex-wife and her husband refused to answer, the portions you conveniently left off to "paint a picture".

I have nothing to hide, while others have much to hide and we intend to expose them all.

I have a team checking you out to the bottom of the barrel right now. As part of responding to you, we will report what we find and your fascination with US political matters.

Welcome to the party lady.

Sincerely

Karl

See: Who is Karl Schwarz and for that matter a whole lot of other people?

Karl Schwarz goes on the defensive at YayaCanada's questions


From:  kwbschwarz@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: swing and a miss

You might be disappointed when my political site goes active very soon with a full disclosure page. Your digging is a waste of time, but then maybe you have plenty of time to waste. Doubt that the FBI would admit it to you, but have undergone a massive investigation and not even unpaid parking tickets could be found.

Odd that a Canadian would be so focused on a third party move in the U.S. that has teeth. The endorsements will say all that needs to be said.

You should be pleased when you see what my platform will state regarding Israel and Palestine, since you purport to be pro-Palestinian.

We shall see if you are or not soon enough. As for my campaign, timing of certain matters, it is pointless to put the cart before the horse.

regards,
Karl
YYC: Now why would I be disappointed at full disclosure on Karl Schwarz, when the lack of it is so troubling to me?

I admit it would disappoint me a bit if the FBI really did pronounce him squeaky clean when there is so much indication to the contrary; but then I'm disappointed in their investigation of 9-11 as well.

It's mind-boggling that a US presidential candidate finds it "odd" that a Canadian might worry about a sincere and secular US third party movement getting derailed by the wrong sort of leadership. Good grief! Even the Shrub isn't surprised that Canadians worry about the US. Could Schwarz be dumber than Dubya?

All the same, he seems to want to please me on the Middle East issue, even though he labels me "pro-Palestinian" as if I were anti-Israel and wouldn't still be arguing for human rights and observance of international law if the brutally occupied were Jewish instead of Arab.

I don't know; maybe he's just not thinking clearly, period.

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Karl Schwartz promotes bogus 9/11 info 05.Jun.2005 12:01

reader

Schwartz seems primarily interested in the no-plane-at-the-Pentagon scenario, an theory of the 9/11 attacks that draws non-stop smearing in the mainstream press of the 9/11 movement.

Not surprising.

Madame Karnak/yaya Canada's research and Schwarz response 05.Jun.2005 16:34

Black Rain

From:  kwbschwarz@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: swing and a miss Mr. Schwarz:

Blackrain:
You respond, "You might be disappointed when my political site goes active very soon with a full disclosure page. Your digging is a waste of time, but then maybe you have plenty of time to waste. Doubt that the FBI would admit it to you, but have undergone a massive investigation and not even unpaid parking tickets could be found."

Blackrain: Mr. Scharwz the most revealing thing is you don't deny any of "Madame Karnak's" research. Instead you come across as a spin doctor and doing damage control. You state, "Doubt that the FBI would admit it to you, but you have undergone a massive investigation and not even unpaid parking tickets could be found." That may be true Mr. Schawrz. According to the law you've done nothing illegal. I think more than anything it was the intention of this research to expose your character. Yes, it is a form of character assasination but it appears to be backed up with evidence. Since you are running for President I think it is crucial as many people as possible that care take not of your apparent character, especially as it relates to your financial deals which come across as a con man and your half lies such as being as being connected to the RNC yet according to yaya Canada there is no record of you being a political contributor.

The title "Unfortunate" son is apt for you I think. As the author states the current moron in office was born and bred a fortunate son and because of that his idiocies, ommissions, and corruptness and lies haven't touched him. He is immune because of his "privelaged" status. A candidate without such status is going to receive more scruntiny and it is very good it is being done this early on. Personally, I don't care if the candidate is a fortunate son or an unfortunate son as long as they are intelligent, have some integrity (it is impossible for any politician to not have some corruptness and anybody that argues otherwise is in a fantasy world or unrealistic). However, we could do much better than the current sorry sap in the Whitehouse. I voted for Kerry last election. He was a fortunate son but I believe he would have been much better than Dubya. As far as integrity it was Kerry who mainly busted the ICCB Bank in Pakistan which had been involved in numerous scams and money laundering from all over the world and was extremely corrupt. Even the Bank of America, Haliburton, and Bush as well as Islamic terrorists had money in there. It was a cesspool. I probably gave the wrong abbreviation for the bank but you know what I'm talking about, I hope. Your way of doing financial business represent a fleecing of individual's. I don't think it reflects bad judgment of your part but rather a following of Barnum's maxim "a sucker is born every minute."

Shwarz:
Odd that a Canadian would be so focused on a third party move in the U.S. that has teeth. The endorsements will say all that needs to be said.

Blackrain:
You're endorsements will either come from "suckers" or the "desperate" or from those on the Far Right. Admittedly, I haven't linked you with the Far Right but I personally believe you are a part of that movement. I've tried to find definitive links tying you to the Far Right but I admit so far I haven't had any success. Doesn't mean they aren't necessarily out there considering how huge the internet. Another factor is you're still relatively unknown to the mainstream public. Endorsements are propaganda, they don't tell anything and you should know that. Considering the U.S. is the world's "superpower" I would think alot of people would care about a third party in the U.S., especially those countries directly to the north and south of us.

Scharwz:
You should be pleased when you see what my platform will state regarding Israel and Palestine, since you purport to be pro-Palestinian.
We shall see if you are or not soon enough. As for my campaign, timing of certain matters, it is pointless to put the cart before the horse.

Blackrain:
You've already announced what your policy would be Mr. Schawrz on strateria radio and I consider it more anti-Israel than pro-Palestinian. I also consider it potentially extremely dangerous. You've stated you would pull troops out of Iraq and station than in the occupied territories, West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Golan Heights and help the Palestinians form their own state. That if any Israelis, I assume the IDF, tried to attack Palestian targets based on their intelligence that U.S. troops would shoot them down. Would your administration have a policy of letting Palestinian terrorists slip through and engage in multiple and consequetive homicide bombings of civilians while preventing the IDF from retaliating and targeting terrorist cells, leaders?

They have been fighting since 1947-1948 Mr. Schawrz over the creation of the Jewish state which is just a bit bigger that the state of New Jersey, takes two minutes to fly over, and has less than 10 million Jews. If you really want to be pro-Palestinian than your administration should tell the Arab states to quick exploiting the Palestian-Israel situation to weaken and destroy Israel and for them to clean up their despotic governments and start treating their own people humanely and to be more open to accomodating the Palestinians seeing the Arab states are numerous and have much more combined land mass.

We haven't done that because of their oil, especially Saudi Arabia which is a known terrorist breeder, and the "need" to maintain friendly relationships with. I saw a "cartoon" once of America sucking Isreal's dick. Is that how you see it sir?

Looks like the ZIONISTS ARE AFTER KARL SCHWARZ 05.Jun.2005 18:03

Mr. Sharon

ZIONIST SHILL SAID:

"Blackrain:
You've{SCHWARZ} already announced what your policy would be Mr. Schawrz on strateria radio and I consider it more anti-Israel than pro-Palestinian. I also consider it potentially extremely dangerous. You've stated you would pull troops out of Iraq and station than in the occupied territories, West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Golan Heights and help the Palestinians form their own state. That if any Israelis, I assume the IDF, tried to attack Palestian targets based on their intelligence that U.S. troops would shoot them down. Would your administration have a policy of letting Palestinian terrorists slip through and engage in multiple and consequetive homicide bombings of civilians while preventing the IDF from retaliating and targeting terrorist cells, leaders?

They have been fighting since 1947-1948 Mr. Schawrz over the creation of the Jewish state which is just a bit bigger that the state of New Jersey, takes two minutes to fly over, and has less than 10 million Jews. If you really want to be pro-Palestinian than your administration should tell the Arab states to quick exploiting the Palestian-Israel situation to weaken and destroy Israel and for them to clean up their despotic governments and start treating their own people humanely and to be more open to accomodating the Palestinians seeing the Arab states are numerous and have much more combined land mass.

We haven't done that because of their oil, especially Saudi Arabia which is a known terrorist breeder, and the "need" to maintain friendly relationships with. I saw a "cartoon" once of America sucking Isreal's dick. Is that how you see it sir?"

Schwarz caught with his pants down 06.Jun.2005 01:39

Gerard Holmgren

For the past week or two I've been having a list email debate with Schwarz, exposing what a pathetic liar he is. He's told so many whoppers during this debate, that I can hardly scratch the surface here, but I'll pick out one particular aspect as an example.

Recently, Tom Flocco's website published an article on behalf of Schwarz continuing Schwarz's ridiculous spin that "his team" has discovered parts of an A3 sky warrior at the pentagon as opposed to a 757.

Just to clarify things, I am by no means supporting the Govt story. In fact I played an important early role in helping to prove that no plane of anywhere near the size of a 757 could have possibly hit the pentagon.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/witness.html
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/physical.html
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/1177.html

Schwarz's totally unsourced, hearsay driven claim of an A3 sky warrior is a pathetic attempt to co-opt those who know the Govt is lying into a false direction. You can see the Flocco article at

 link to www.tomflocco.com

However, this article is not the same as it was when it was originally published. Two important things have been changed. The original article contained two premeditated lies from Schwarz which were then changed after I confronted him about them on the list.

In the section where the article states the wingspans of an A3 and a 737 you will now see the correct figures - 72 ft 6 in and 93 ft to 112 ft 6 in , depending on the variety, respectively.

But this was not what the article originally contained. The reasons why Schwarz originally lied about these specifications will be best saved for a separate comment, and I'm not sure that people who are not fully up on all the details will understand the significance, but the important thing to note here is that Schwarz lied several times, and then told more lies to try to cover it up.

In the original article, the wingspan of an A3 was given as 48 ft. How does 72 ft 6 in become 48 ft, one might ask ?

In the original article the wingspan of a 737 was given as 148 ft. How does 93 ft become 148 ft ? Or alternatively, how does 112ft 6 in become 148 ft ? Why is only one figure given, for a craft which has multiple figures ?

These figures clearly cannot be typos. For some reason, Schwarz has deliberately understated the wingspan of an A3 and overstated the wingspan of a 737, hoping that casual readers, unfamiliar with the correct figures, would not check. Schwarz of course provided no links with the figures, as a further disincentive for curious readers to check the figures.

As I said before, I will save the likely motivation for these lies for a separate comment.

After I wrote to the list, pointing out these errors, Schwarz and I were having a private insult trading session, and I sarcastically asked him what was the wingspan of the two respective craft. Schwarz's reply was interesting. He gave me the correct figure for the A3 ( bear in mind that I had already exposed his incorrect figure to the list at this time), but yet another incorrect figure for a 737 - 115 ft 8 in.

In response I asked him two questions.

1) Why the article contained incorrect figures if he knew the correct figures
2)What link he could supply me for the new figure he had suddenly come up with for a 737

He completely ignored the second question, and in reply to the first said

"typos his end not "my BS", prick", clearly implying that he had given Flocco the correct figures and that Flocco had misrepresented him.

The answer was ludicrous. For a start, how could those figures possibly be typos ? Secondly, if the mistake was Flocco's, how could Schwarz possibly know and so confidently the state the reason why Flocco was so wildly out from what Schwarz had told him? Thirdly, in an article which contains no other typos, we are expected to believe that just those selected figures were so wildly out that the article would have been totally unreadable if the same standards had been applied to the rest of it.

So in response, I asked to him to confirm that he was indeed claiming that he had given the correct figure to Flocco and that Flocco had misrepresented him. He refused to reply. Since then, I have asked the same question another 6 times, and each time he has refused to reply.

If Flocco really had so wildly misrepresented him, Schwarz would not be sitting there in sullen silence, refusing to confirm or deny. So its clear that after I exposed the "error" - or more correctly the lie - Schwarz originally intended to replay Flocco's trust by pinning the error on him if he could get away with it, but then back peddled slightly when he realized how thoroughly I was documenting his replies.

Meanwhile, he had supplied a link for the 737 figure, with the snide remark
"have you thought about www.boeing.com you researcher you ?

This was my reply.

"Indeed I have, but for those present who can't be bothered going past the front page, which is the link you gave and actually going to the technical specifications section

 http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/technical.html

I'm sorry to have to inform you that it says 112 ft 7 in. for 737 900 and 800

And this link

 http://www.answers.com/topic/boeing-737

lists other varieties which are 93 ft. So what was the link for 115 ft 8 in ? "

In reply, Schwarz sent the same link again, trying to pretend that it was a different link, by tacking the completely meaningless words "particular model" on to the end of the link.

I pointed out that this was just the same link, and again asked for a correct one.

He then came up with another completely bogus link, one which contained no such figure, but managed to waste more of my time, because it was a lengthy article and I read through it several times to make sure that no such figure was mentioned. Upon sending this link , he crowed victoriously about what a dill I was, as if the previous two bogus links were erased from history.

When I pointed out that this link also contained no such figure, he then lied again, claiming that it did, and again crowing what an idiot I was.

When I again insisted that it did not, he suddenly flushed that one down the memory hole too, insisting that he was not going to do my work for me, and that if I couldn't find the link , that was my problem.

He claimed that it was "there" (somewhere) and the fact that I couldn't find it showed what a crappy researcher I was and he wasn't going to supply it.

When I insisted further, he then suddenly claimed that it came from a source which wasn't linked on the net anyway, which showed what an idiot I was for assuming that it was.

When I asked to clarify the contradiction between his insistence that the link was "there" somewhere, and the sudden back flip to the position that it wasn't, he refused to reply.

I've now asked for the link about 20 times in the list debate. He now simply refuses to answer. I actually did a thorough google search anyway, and found no such specs for a 737.

So to summarize:

His original article contained two premeditated lies. When these were exposed, he told two more to try to cover them, firstly that they were typos, secondly that the mistake was Flocco's.

Then he made another error for whatever reason, and then tried to cover this by sending a bogus link. When that was exposed, he sent the same link, clumsily trying to disguise it as a different one. When that was exposed he sent another bogus link. When that was exposed he lied that it was actually correct. When that was exposed he claimed that it wasn't his responsibility to supply any documentation for his claim, but it was on the web if I looked for it. When that was challenged he suddenly claimed that it was a non web source. When I asked him to clarify his position he refused.

Now - what I've just outlined is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the whoppers he's been telling, and the total bankruptcy of any claim he has to be doing anything remotely resembling "research". He just makes stuff up, and tries to sell it through a personality cult of froth and self promotion. Jared Israel once used the wonderful phrase "bombast and swagger" as Mike Ruppert's substitute for real research, and I can't think of a better phrase to describe Schwarz.

As I said, the whoppers are too many to list here, but I thought that by focusing on that particular thread it might provide a telling demonstration of what a shallow fraud this idiot is.

Why Schwarz lied about the A3 06.Jun.2005 02:34

Gerard Holmgren

Having established that Schwarz told a calculated lie in citing the wingspan of an A3 as 48 ft, when he knew it was 72 ft 6 in, we ask - why did he tell these lies ?

For anyone who had examined the arguments, it's been obvious since mid 2002 that whatever struck the pentagon was much smaller than a 757. The proof for this did not derive from any direct evidence about what the object was, rather it came from solid proofs about what it could not have been.

Schwarz played no role whatsoever in contributing to these proofs, and no role whatsoever in distributing the work of those who did, or in arguing the proofs in public forums to help establish the evidence in people's minds beyond its early "loony fringe " status.

By the time that Schwarz suddenly appeared as self proclaimed hero, the situation was that there were a significant number of people who had known for some time that there was absolute proof that the 757 story was a lie. Exactly how many we can't say, but enough to provoke a continuing spin campaign from the supporters of the official story, and even for glimpses of the issue to occasionally be seen in mainstream media - usually cast in the role of the mad conspiracy theory which was in need of debunking.

It would have been clear that there were large numbers of people who were never going to be converted to the official story no matter how ingenious the counter spin. So the complimentary strategy was to coopt as many as possible of these people in some way which limited their value in understanding and spreading the truth.

Schwarz would have been aware that many of these people would have been frustrated that such undeniable proof could have been blocked from the mainstream media and shunned by the political and legal system. They knew the truth - now they wanted to see signs of the political will to act upon it.

When I say "knew the truth" - they knew what *didn't* hit the building, but there was no convincing theory for the exact ID of what did. All we could say for certain, is that it was something quite small - probably not a plane at all, but if there were to be any chance that it was, then it must have been very small. There are some who contend that there was no striking object at all, and that it was done with planted explosives.

So, as these people cried out for a hero, they were vulnerable to somebody who could appear to move the issue along by claiming to have found the next level - exactly what *did* hit the building.

Clearly anybody fabricating such a claim would need to make the object as small as possible in order to appear as plausible as possible to this group of people. After all, one of the most striking proofs that it was not a 757 - although it is by no means the only one - is that such a large wingspan had zero chance of disappearing through such a small hole.


For those who have their thinking caps on, it's obvious that a plane with a 72 ft wingspan is no more plausible than a 125 ft wingspan. However, it is inevitable that there will be some, swept up in the excitement of a new development, who would be taken in by the prospect of a plane with a significantly smaller wingspan - being positively IDd from the site.

For the person concocting the scam, its obvious that the smaller they can make the wingspan, the more people will be taken in.

IMO, a 48 ft wingspan is still not plausible, but there is no doubt that there would some who wouldn't buy a 72 ft wingspan, but might accept a 48 ft wingspan.

And Karl Schwarz does not write for the critical thinker and meticulous checker. He writes for the casual reader, the agenda driven, the stupid, the careless and the inexperienced. I don't use all of these terms pejoratively. In the case of someone who, only a few weeks ago, became aware of the no 757 evidence and was new to web activism and didn't have the experience to know that you have to check for bullshit - and the first stage of that is to carefully check verification standards - and wouldn't conceive of the idea that someone pretending to expose the truth about Sept 11 is actually trying to cover it up - they could easily fall for the shallow unreferenced hearsay that characterizes Schwarz's writings. I know this from experience. When I was new to this, I initially fell for the writings of Mike Ruppert, a very similar sort of writer with similarly poor standards, and it took time before I gained the experience to see through him.

Fortunately, I had the contrasting example of Jared Israel www.tenc.net a writer who is meticulous with his verification standards to help me learn how real researchers put their information together.

So Schwarz is writing for the kind of reader who would not dismiss something because of its lack of verification standards and who would not think to check for themselves whether his alleged facts were correct. They simply wouldn't imagine that someone could tell such a blatent lie and expect to get away with it.

By lying about the wingspan of the A3 - making it out to be much smaller than it really was, Schwarz aimed to make his claim to have identified the object as plausible to as many people as possible.

Of course, I can't prove beyond doubt that this was his motivation for lying, its simply the most logical deduction I can come with up. The only person who knows for absolute certain why he lied is Schwarz, (and anybody else who may have conspired with him) and he's not going to tell us.

He's still desperately pleading that it was a typo. Heh !

72 ft 6 in being accidentally mistyped as 48 ft !

Why Schwarz lied about the 737 06.Jun.2005 02:46

Gerard Holmgren

We have established that Schwarz told a premeditated lie about the wingspan of an A3, in a manner calculated to give the impression that it was a much smaller craft than what it actually is. I have suggested a likely motivation - to try to make the A3 seem as plausible as possible to the uncritical reader, given the small hole in the pentagon wall.

We have also established that Schwarz told a premeditated lie about the wingspan of a 737. The correct wingspan is 93 ft to 112ft 6 in, depending on the variety. Schwarz cited it as 148 ft. Once again, this cannot possibly be a typo. So here we see Schwarz now making a calculated effort to give the uncritical reader the impression that a 737 is a significantly larger craft than it really is. What could be the motivation for such a lie ?

The suggestion below is perhaps a little more debatable than the theory I offered in relation to his lie about the A3, but I think it is worth considering.

Just as the Pentagon no 757 evidence emerged from "loony fringe status" to now being accepted by significant numbers of people, it is clear that the proof that no big planes hit the WTC, pioneered by Webfairy,  http://thewebfairy.com/911 ) is now on the same path. Its progress in the minds of the many is still embryonic compared to that of the pentagon issue, but there is no doubt that it has taken huge strides in the last year, and is now causing defenders of the official story some serious alarm.

So much so, that the half truth compromise stories have already appeared. For example, the ridiculous "pod" theory which contends that they were large jets but just adapted to fire missiles. In order to try to cover the trail of truth which WF has blazed, the debunkers are already reduced to at least conceding that that they were not the planes we've been told (which is something I suppose ).

Note: For those not familiar with this work, which I believe to be probably the most important S11 discoveries so far, there were no planes hitting the WTC.
The Nth tower object doesn;t even look like a plane

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/planevideos.html

and the Sth tower object which superficially looks like a large passenger jet, is in fact a fake video. Its a movie. No planes hit any buildings. It was a war of the worlds con job.

 link to thewebfairy.com

The irony of the pod theory is that it was WF who first noticed the anomaly in the shape of the "plane", and after suffering endless ridicule on this, as well as the rest of her work, others then suddenly took that tiny aspect of her work, called it the "pod", extrapolated it into a whole theory and wrote WF and the rest of her work out the story, thereby claiming the "pod" to be their "smoking gun" discovery.

Schwarz has been as vicious in his denunciation of WF as any of the debunkers. And he has joined the "substitute large plane " bandwagon in opposition to the pod people, by claiming that the Sth tower object is a 737.

Once again, the spinners are at least forced to admit that it wasn't the plane we've been told, so they are retreating to the next level of defence.

In order to examine why Schwarz would find it advantageous to deliberately overstate the wingspan of the plane which he is claiming hit the WTC, it becomes necessary to look at one of the favourite counter spin arguments which has been used against WF by those who support the idea that it was a large plane - if not a 767, then at least one of similar proportions. Some of these debunkers are happy to concede that it may not have been the plane which the govt tells us, or perhaps not even a 767, but contend that it was at least a plane of very similar size.

Their argument is that the slash in the WTC approximately matches the dimensions of a 767 wingspan. Indeed it does. As I've argued in other places, and am happy to argue here again if necessary, the approximate 767 wingspan dimension of the slash is actually proof that it could not have been a plane of that size, and if anybody wishes to have that argument again, I'm happy to prove it yet again.

But leaving that aside for the moment, what is relevant to the question of why Schwarz lied to inflate the size of a 737 wingspan, would appear to be that by bringing the 737's alleged wingspan much closer to that of the 767, and much closer to the dimensions of the WTC slash, Schwarz is able to argue that the wingspan of a 737 is close enough to the size of the slash in the WTC.

Thus he is able to still use the debunker's favourite argument against WF, while simultaneously appealing to those who accept, or at least suspect that it something other than the flights we are told hit the buildings.

So Schwarz is setting himself up as the "discoverer" of what really hit both the pentagon and the WTC, in a manner which satisfies both those who refuse to accept that it was all a war of the world's con job and those who accept MIHOP at some level.

Once again, my theory as to why Schwarz lied about the 737 is not absolutely provable, but I think it fits the pattern of his spin quite well.

So what have is this.

Schwarz told a premeditated lie to inflate the size of a 737 and reduce the size of an A3.

The lie about the A3 makes his spin on the pentagon object appear to the uncritical reader to be more plausible.

The lie about the 737 makes his spin on the WTC object appear to the uncritical reader to be more plausible.

Again, we can't be certain exactly why Schwarz lied, because he wont tell us. He's still desperately pleading that it was a typo.

Heh! 93 ft gets mistyped as 148 ft ?

112 ft gets mistyped as 148 ft ?

112ft 6 in get mistyped as 148 ft ?

Karl Schwarz - arms dealer or liar 06.Jun.2005 02:54

Gerard Holmgren

For those who couldn't stand wading through to the end of that crud by Flocco on behalf of Schwarz,

 http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=110&mo

its worth a read because the last section is quite interesting.

This could be just another piece of spin from con-man Schwarz, but let's just assume for the moment that he's telling approximately the truth. If so, then it reveals that Schwarz is an arms dealer - a peddler of death. It appears that his fury against the Bushies is basically a fit of pique that rival dealer of death Lockheed- Martin got a contract ahead of him.

This is what the article says.

[[Schwarz is the CEO of a company which designs remote control/UAVs for the U.S. Army and had a $392 million dollar Defense Department order for 32 UAVs canceled "because they would see too much over in Iraq, and because we could put in a fleet of them for what our competition was paying for a couple."

Lockheed-Martin's Missiles and Fire Control Systems UAV used in Iraq is called the Predator, which costs $45 million for each unit, has three sensors and requires a crew of 55 individuals to operate one of them, according to Schwarz.

"Our Project Medusa has 11 high-powered sensors that can all operate simultaneously, can stay aloft at least 24 hours, has the world's most advanced hyper-spectral system augmented by two technologies to speed up pixel analysis and detect minute anomalies in the field of view (FOV) if the operator is paying attention or not, or if his human eyes cannot even see the detail that the software detects and highlights for the operator to zoom in on," said the UAV corporate CEO.

"A crew of 55 is required to operate 5 Medusa Skypods simultaneously. A single pilot operator flies them from a single laptop or personal computer. In short, 55 operators running 55 high powered sensors with far more processing and pixel engine detection power versus 55 operators running a single Predator and only one sensor capable of running at a time. The five Medusas cost about $65 million each but have far more technology capabilities and at any given time cover a far larger area with more visual assets, " said Schwarz.

"In short, they are not toys. They even have AIM 100 lasing devices and can light up targets up to 30 miles in all directions fro air strikes, artillery, mortar, or helicopters to dispose of problems...The combined area of coverage, and the number of troops they could possibly protect if all of the pet [Defense Department] aerostats were airborne at the same time, or not riddled full of machine gun holes, is about the area that a single Medusa Skypod covers...we are at least one to two years ahead of Lockheed in HAA technology...To my group it was an honor to have been asked and we proved we could deliver only to get jerked around by bureaucrats for months protecting pet projects [like the vastly inferior Lockheed Predator]. (One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas: A Conservative Republican Speaks Out, by Karl W. B. Schwarz, Reichenbach Publishing Company, 2004, p. 379 [821 pages])

Karl Schwarz is concerned that the Defense Department is protecting favorite pet projects instead of seeking the very best equipment to provide air security and support for America's young warriors: "We also turned down some business to have the priority slot available, for we surely thought someone in our Army would care about saving more lives."

"They didn't want civilians involved because the army would have to hire us to show them how to operate the UAVs, he said, offering further that "they had a fellow named John Geddes who was totally unable to evaluate the effectiveness and efficiency of our Medusa system versus the Predator system made by Lockheed-Martin--one of their pet projects group."

Schwarz added, "and all this remote control/UAV testing was being done at Fort Collins-Loveland Airport around the same time the A-3 Sky Warriors were being refitted before September 11!"

"They were watching every move I made when I was at Fort Collins," said Schwarz, adding "they also had a lot of freight hangers and warehouses--a lot of regular warehousing, which I thought strange for a small civilian airport." ]]

Boo hoo ! KS lost a $392 million contract to kill people, because of the corrupt Admin, and now he's out for revenge.

As I've been saying for a while, everyone and their dog is going to try to use S11 for their own agenda and this includes some people who are just as bad as those who carried it out, and are just bitter that they're not getting their share of the action. These people will construct their own version of the truth - one which may contain such elements of truth as are convenient to their agenda - one which targets their political enemies. In Schwarz's case this is the admin which screwed him out of $392 million worth of corpses. Nice guy.

Unless it's the lesser crime of just more self -aggrandizing bullshit.

So that's our choice about what to believe about Karl Schwarz - arms dealer or liar.

Intel Contractor 06.Jun.2005 06:19

Nico Haupt

Schwarz was or is furthermore also an intelligence contractor or at least in negotiations to become one.

I'm in the same email list, Gerard is talking about above.
It has 30 9/11 reseearchers in it and we're all waiting for many answers of a huge list of questions, Schwarz was presented almost 2 weeks ago.

See
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/316680.shtml

Already in August 2003, Schwarz confirmed in a letter, made available to the FCC archives, that his unlisted company COMMAXXESS, was "in negotiations with a firm that currently
provides security services to U.S. intelligence agencies to assure that current leaks and
threats will be eliminated and a new Global Crossing under new management and U.S.
ownership would protect national security. This is a firm that will not be going public
any time in the near future due to the nature of its work and clientele."

Source:
 link to gullfoss2.fcc.gov

Schwarz didn't disclose both the name of this "firm" or the name of this US intelligence agency yet.
The question was asked 5 days ago. He yelled back to "move on". In one reply he spoke about some creditors, but still didn't want to tell us the name of the intelligence contractor.

Response to Holmgren and Hauptmen 06.Jun.2005 16:14

Black Rain

I'm impressed by the exposure of lies by Shwarz Holmgren has posted. I'm also impressed by his 911 research although I'm not the one he needs feedback from but experts who are independent and don't have an agenda other than to share their expertise. Forgive me Hauptman but I don't trust a single thing that comes from Schwarz. Are you absolutely sure this is connected to an FCC site and is authentic? In my response here I am. In one of my responses I claimed Schawrz was a counterintelligence agent and he is. He has certainly diverted attention away for scholarly scuntinous research of what happened on September 11 and the 911 terrorist attacks. He has made blanket assertions without so much as an attempt to prove them. He is exploiting 911 for a political agenda and in the process is diverting people away from the real possible evidence of 911. Goebbel's as well as Hitler knew the bigger lie you tell the more people will believe it. Now, that an increasing number of Americans are not buying the official government story Scharwz is giving them the "big lie". He's not interested in evidence but propaganda. The big lie is indispensable to propaganda.

Scharwz has declared his intentions to run for president in 2008 and my critique of what his policies would be have brought forth only Jew haters who have no intelligible rebuttal except to call me a Zionist or "Fuck off Khazar". Now, I haven't done my research such as Holmgren has regarding any possible Far Right connections Schwarz has but it is "obvious" to me he is representative of the Far Right. But to make that stick with others I'll need some documentation and these people are highly secretive. I've read enough and heard enough of Schwarz and what his policies would be as president that this man, assuming he ever came close to the presidency, would be a cataclysm. As I've stated, before the Far Right has absolutely been re-energized and given a putrid air of hope by the events of 911. Although Schwarz will likely be a blip on the political radar he should be taken much more seriously than Mike Ruppert's Peak Oil scam because he has ambitions for running for president in 2008. His main vehicle is riding on or exploiting 911 (and since he's German I will liken it to "the Stab in the Back" which many Germans believed. At the same time he is doing this he can gradually infiltrate the medium by espousing his policies he will pursue, which will resonate with many Americans. I hate to be melodramatic and simple here but its kind of like Star Wars where you have the good side and the dark side. It is easier to give in to the powers of the dark side than it is the good side because we both have each battling within us and often the dark side wins.

Now, I copied and pasted this and want to go over it. It's supposedly from the FCC document:

This is clearly a matter the U.S. congress must be
permitted to consider at its leisure without being
hindered or unduly constrained to render a premature
decision, according to the time limits and scheduling
of Global Crossings exclusivity agreement or at the
political will of a foreign power who stands to gain
financially.

Congress ought to be compelled to impose a moratorium
on any foreign transaction like the STT deal, until
they can diligently determine exactly what is in the
publics interest, as IDT points out the proposed
STT/GX merger exceeds the scope, limitations and
objectives of the statutes.

The STT deal undermines the principals of the U.S.
constitution that forbid state and federal governments
from owning and operating any business for profit
while it loosens the U.S. governments authority to
regulate business and trade and enforce rule of law in
the U.S.

Each connection is a direct link or door to some of the major U.S. banks and financial institutions. Those deserve the type of services that will protect those companies and fulfill the intent of the service and why it is provided. In the hands of non-U.S. interests and ownership there is no way for this Commission, CFIUS or STT to guarantee that such protection and network security will occur. In fact, the opposite of
security then becomes an economic invitation to breach security or cause lags for trading advantage.

If this Commission and CFIUS will not listen to competing bidders that are
offering higher prices for Global Crossing assets, Global Crossing shareholders and former employees (the latter of which have been granted priority claim status in the bankruptcy), and do not represent a threat to national security or U.S. business interests, maybe the federal review authorities will listen to someone who worked for Global Crossing. Someone whose career has been threatened if they did not keep their mouth
shut about what has really transpired inside of the fraud that is Global Crossing.

These are not harm, no foul issues. A reverse roll up of Global Crossing,
Pacific Crossing and Asia Global Crossing under foreign ownership is literally begging
for trouble.

Is the United States government and its taxpayers going to indemnify U.S.
financial institutions for the graft and corruption, financial disruption that such a transfer of control could entail? As a taxpayer, this Respondent says no and no way.

___________________________________________________________________________

I'm not a business major so all this is really foreign to me. However, in the quest for good I will analyze it. First, of all you need to download the link Hauptman provided which is PDF. It seems that Global Crossing had signifigant dealings with the upper levels of Singapore government and business and there was a concern by the FCC of this providing Singapore with an advantage over U.S. interests. As the "anonymous" FCC person or whoever states, " A reverse roll up of Global Crossing, Pacific Crossing and Asia Global Crossing under foreign ownership is literally begging
for trouble. If this Commission and CFIUS will not listen to competing bidders that are offering higher prices for Global Crossing assets, Global Crossing shareholders and former employees (the latter of which have been granted priority claim status in the bankruptcy), and do not represent a threat to national security or U.S. business interests, maybe the federal review authorities will listen to someone who worked for Global
Crossing."

The further anonymous entity states of Global Crossing,"Someone whose career has been threatened if they did not keep their mouth shut about what has really transpired inside of the fraud that is Global Crossing."

___________________________________________________________________________

The STT GX proposal is not the most secure, national security friendly or even the most economically rational proposal. It is the most management friendly proposal and one that has total disregard for national security or anyone's interests except STT and GX management. The former senior network engineer clearly knows exactly what that network install was to have accomplished and how vulnerable it would be under non-U.S.
ownership.

The COMMAXXESS offer is $415 million cash now, $400 million cash over the
next 5 years and 38% of the post-bankruptcy Newco stock. The STT deal offers 38.5% of the newco stock, therefore the COMMAXXESS offer is of 1% less on stock but almost 3.5 times as much cash and in all cash terms, not non-cash consideration that can be easily subjected to dilution or devaluation.

Additionally, COMMAXXESS is in negotiations with a firm that currently
provides security services to U.S. intelligence agencies to assure that current leaks and threats will be eliminated and a new Global Crossing under new management and U.S. ownership would protect national security. This is a firm that will not be going public any time in the near future due to the nature of its work and clientele.

Respectfully submitted,
Karl W. B. Schwarz
Chairman, Chief Executive

___________________________________________________________________________

I'd like Nico to tell me where he dug this link up or if it was anonymously sent to him or by somebody you doesn't know. If the latter it should be considered bait of some kind and disregarded. PDF documents can easily be made. If authentic it just raises more questions than it answers which Schwarz seems to excel at.

My impression is Schwarz evades all the germane questions the anonymous person had and casually states the the STT GX proposal was not friendly to national interests or economically rational but made the most sense at the management level. Then as if to placate this "anonymous entity" he seems to play double agent. Kind of like, "Sure we'll do what is not in the national interests and economically rational but buddy I'm negotiating with a firm that provides security services to U.S. intelligence..but hey I can't tell you who the firm is. Just to let you know "the Company" isn't going public anytime soon.

Unless this can be confirmed as an authentic government document it is just more propaganda from Schawrz, puffing himself up on the international world stage. If by some change it is authentic it doesn't paint a very flattering picture of him.

Karl Schwarz: Unfortunate Son 07.Jun.2005 14:26

Reader who wears glasses

Please break up that thousand line paragraph.

It is very difficult to read.

Please take the time to break this massive paragraph into bite sized pieces. You won't lose to many readers. I took one look at it and almost didn't want to read it, especially because I wear glasses.

response to BlackRain 07.Jun.2005 19:05

Nico Haupt aka ewing2001

BlackRain,

i wasn't tipped off by anyone and found the FCC link by myself.
As you can see from their start page, it's a FCC server:
 http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/

The direct link to Schwarz' letter is here below.
It's now Day 18 of a non-public list of 30 researchers, who are waiting for Karl's answers.
So far we have also to deal with interruptor Jonathan Gold, who tries to distract with a laudatio to yet another fake activist group, 911truth.org.

We will keep you here updated about the latest.


 link to gullfoss2.fcc.gov

Additionally, COMMAXXESS is in negotiations with a firm that currently
provides security services to U.S. intelligence agencies to assure that current leaks and
threats will be eliminated and a new Global Crossing under new management and U.S.
ownership would protect national security. This is a firm that will not be going public
any time in the near future due to the nature of its work and clientele.
Respectfully submitted,
Karl W. B. Schwarz
Chairman, Chief Executive
501-663-4959
Dated: August 18, 2003



PS:
Please also check out

Holmgren's postings separated, direct links:


 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/318783.shtml#183278
Schwarz caught with his pants down

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/318783.shtml#183281
Why Schwarz lied about the A3

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/318783.shtml#183282
Why Schwarz lied about the 737

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/318783.shtml#183283
Karl Schwarz - arms dealer or liar

To person who wears glasses 07.Jun.2005 19:05

YayaCanada

I don't blame you. Read it at the original site:
 http://www.yayacanada.com/9-11-4d.html

Karls response 10.Jun.2005 08:17

Amy asasser@cfl.rr.com

Corinne of yayacanada has had this response since around 11.30 est June 9th So why Corinne is it not on your web site? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copied and pasted from the doc I recieved last night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Karl W B Schwarz [mailto: kwbschwarz@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 PM
To: ' yyc@yayacanada.com'
Subject: My response to your researcher




Hello Corinne,

You will probably find my response to "Madame Karnak" to be most unpleasant for I have nothing to hide. The way your researcher has twisted, misrepresented, falsely stated and outright lied about certain facts that she had to have found in her "research" will be evident for most to see. She either found such matters and intentionally slanted the facts, or she just proved to the world she is a complete idiot, or that she is a vindictive, psychopathic liar. You will see as you read on that your "researcher" is all of the foregoing.

It is not that I have no response, it is because I am booked solid with a TV, radio and newsprint interviews today, and radio shows tomorrow and Friday. My company also keeps me very busy, you know, the one that your researcher cannot find with "both hands".

Sorry to disappoint but your "effort" has not even been a bump in the road, my book is going to second printing, and all things are fine, in spite of the liar you came up with as a "researcher". I am booked all the way through the end of the summer, in spite of your idiot researcher.

Any person who will post such drivel and outright lies without providing her identity is lower than a coward. Therefore, it is my position that this person has no credibility and her lies will be clear to see for anyone who will take the time to read and think.

My response will be in two parts, both now and as a civil and criminal investigation moves forward to litigation and we have more damaging information to reveal about your "source".

I have responded paragraph by paragraph to each part of her tapestry of lies she has woven for you and your readers. Sloppy journalism Corinne on your part for publishing outright lies. The thin ice of slander, libel and defamation of character does in fact apply to the Internet too. Your researcher(s) will be hearing from my attorneys as soon as they track her/them down to effect service of process.

For you YaYaCanada readers, Corrine's "concerned 9-11 truth citizen" used the handle of "Madame Karnak", which is the nome de plume of none other than Melinda Pillsbury Foster, a person who used to work for me [was supposed to have been working for me, but was not doing so] and is now a fugitive from the law. Her email is  themelinda@pillsbury-foster.us.

Her trash piece on me is prima facia evidence that she was not doing the work on my campaign and was doing just the opposite.

It was really stupid of Melinda to have used a handle she has used before to bash and trash other men she does not like, for there are many men this misandrist does not like.

She evidently worked in collaboration with Gina di Miranda:

From: Gina de Miranda [mailto: benet_gesserit@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:48 PM
To: KARL SCHWARZ
Subject: PLATFORM
Importance: High

As you can see, Gina was involved in editing my platform. Gina admitted just today [June 8, 2005] that she is talking to your "researcher". Fine, proves my point and will make the investigation so much easier to conclude and head to trial.

When you read on and see the blatant lies your "researcher" has done, and the Kyle Hence group / Portland.Indy.media just parrot without "research" you will see why some 9-11 groups will never prove that 9-11 even happened.

There was enough information of "Melinda emails and websites visited" to go on that the ISP records for what came across my wireless router and Comcast ISP have been secured as evidence, and from that the ISP records of at least two other individuals are being pulled and provided to law enforcement and my attorneys at this time.

I gave my attorneys the green light to sue Monday, and sue they will. What you posted Corinne has slander, defamation and libel written all over it and we will be suing multiple parties on this matter, civil and criminal.

I guess Melinda forgot that for her to even use my wireless router on WPA security, her MAC address for her laptop and the laptop her son was using are on my "router permissions list". Those MAC addresses have been provided to law enforcement as well to hunt her down. Whether she posted it directly or through a proxy is immaterial, we already know she was directly involved.

Name them publicly Corinne, each and every one of them. This is no time for cowardice so name them and let them undergo scrutiny too, your bogus researcher and her sources. Let the world see what their motives are for telling such lies and half truths.

She and her two sons Justin and Arthur are homeless having moved from Santa Barbara, CA to Charlotte, SC and then into my residence in Georgia. They followed me from Santa Barbara to Round Rock, TX leaving Arthur in the Santa Barbara area. I recently paid to have Arthur flown to Atlanta but did not know until June 5 why it was so urgent that Arthur had to get out of the house where he was staying. That is explained in the closing.

I have more than enough proof to launch an extortion charge against Ms. Pillsbury Foster and fraud, theft, and other matters as do other persons too. We will do exactly that in addressing Ms. Pillsbury Foster's lies about me and anyone she collaborated with on this matter.

Until May 19, 2005 they lived in my home until their presence became intolerable for reasons I will disclose at the end of this response. Melinda Pillsbury Foster is a liar and that will be easy to prove in my action against her and others I am aware of that are being filed against her. She is an incredibly incompetent, inconsiderate, disingenuine, sloven person.

This is politics so let us air it all out for everyone to see. Do not let them hide like the keyboard cowards that they are, or in this case, felons on the run.

From the oldest daughter and child of Melinda Pillsbury Foster:

From: Morgan [mailto: morgan@thepillsburys.us]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:16 PM
To: Karl W B Schwarz
Subject: Re: final draft attached

Melinda was married to Ron Kellett and had an open relationship with him when she was sleeping with both Fund AND Craig Franklin. Craig later married her when he learned she was pregnant assuming Justin was his, but NOW wants Fund to have that blood test because if it turns out Fund really is Justin's father he can sue Melinda for fraud in getting him to marry her in the first place! So as we speak Craig is calling Fund to demand the blood test....damn Karl, the soaps are nothing to this!!! M
----- Original Message -----
From: Karl W B Schwarz
To: 'Morgan'
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:38 AM
Subject: final draft attached

Might as well make the "first strike" nuclear in nature.

Don't LMAO and go into labor now. J

Karl

By the way, when your "researcher" called my ex-wife, she represented that her name was Corinne Allan. That is why I asked you the question. Thank you for your prompt reply.


See also: Karl Schwarz forwards to YayaCanada his debate with "911 Team 8+"

See Karl Schwarz's response to this article
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Karl Schwarz: Unfortunate Son
by "Madame Karnak"

June 2, 2005

Note from YYC: Soon after I wrote my questions about Karl Schwarz "Who is Karl Schwarz...", I was contacted by an American woman who offered to do some interviews and research and write it up for me. The article below is the result of her considerable efforts. I have verified the identity of this person, her address, her phone number, and even her driver's licence number, and have talked with her at length on the telephone. Unfortunately, neither she nor anyone of the long list of sources who contributed information for this article wants to be publicly named. They all feel that Karl Schwarz is "vindictive" and want nothing more to do with him.

The author has sent me many more supporting documents than are included here, and anyone wishing to see any of the documents should feel free to email me and I will send them to you.

The pen name she has chosen is of course a take-off on one of the late Johnny Carson's comic personae, but this woman is dead serious about the necessity to prevent Karl Schwarz from gaining any kind of leadership of the legitimate 9-11 truth movement and thus destroying its credibility. Anyone who is interested in contacting this author about future articles (for which she will no doubt give her real name) should feel free to email me, and I will forward all requests to the author.


By the way Corrine, I already have a national and international voice on 9-11 matters, and this trash piece you published has been read by thousands of my backers, along with this response, and I will continue to have a growing voice. They see the work of Melinda Pillsbury Foster and others for what it is: vindictiveness. Like everything else Melinda does, it is failing and backfiring in her face.

Most people clearly see that your researcher(s) does not have clean hands, and neither do you in posting her lies.

This document will be posted on my website www.karlschwarz.com and on my political website that goes active within days.


AMERICAN HEARTLAND---May 27, 2005-What does one call a man who has spent the greater part of his life luring people to invest in schemes that never work out? More charitable people might say that Karl was a dreamer or a Walter Mitty type.

Some might call him a grifter, others might call him a hustler and still others, a con man. Regardless, the one thing that Americans cannot afford to call him is President. It would not be a change for the better. Very much like the current President, Karl Wilhelm Schwarz hasn't had a successful business. His dreams and stories have always outstripped his realities. Unlike Dubya, Karl did not use those dreams cynically. He believed that he could make his dreams into reality.

Your "researcher" has met her match Corinne. Let us all know - straight from you - who drafted this slam job based on her lies. She has made a fool of you, Corrine. Find a single legal action alleging any wrong doing on my part. She cannot find it for It does not exist.

At least, it appears that he did in the beginning. Karl Wilhelm Schwarz, also known as Bill Schwarz, also known more recently as Karl W.B. Schwarz, was born on May 1, 1951, to a blue collar family in Arkansas. His father, Norris Schwarz, abandoned Karl and his two siblings, Robert and Viki, when Karl was only 9. For weeks, the slight, blue-eyed boy sat on his porch waiting for his dad to come home.

My actual full name is Karl Wilhelm Bernhard Schwarz, II, I was named for my grandfather and he had two middle names. Very few family members knew that my grandfather had three given names and a surname. Wilhelm is German for William, hence some know me by "Bill" and some of my family call me by that name. It is true that my father was so harassed following the divorce of my parents that he left Arkansas never to return until the day I buried him next to his parents and grandfather.

Unlike aka: Melinda Pillsbury Foster, who was never married to anyone named Foster and was not part of her given name at birth, I proudly bear my real name and Melinda is not a party that is welcome in the Pillsbury family, being the black sheep of that family most of her life.

My father served with Patton's Third Army in Europe and later was part of the Japan Occupation Force. He was yet another solider of this nation that never fully came home.

I did seek my father out so that my son could have a relationship with his grandfather. I will never regret having done that for my son. That took a lot of courage on my part, something your researcher is bereft of from all appearances. His mother and grandmother both told the child that Grandpa Schwarz was dead. I introduced them so that my son would know him and why he was told lies about him.

Actually, not blue collar. My father was college educated, a veteran, a commercial artist and one of the original three founders of AdCraft of Arkansas, still a successful company in Little Rock last I heard. Following that, he was in the Houston Chronicle art department for many years before retiring in Ruidoso, New Mexico. He was one of the most talented water color artists in the United States and I have his entire collection. My grandfather was one of the two founders of Dixie Equipment Company, the company that pioneered stainless steel kitchens. The "Norris" Milk Dispenser was named for my father, Norris Karl Schwarz.

His mother, Robbie, with the help of his grandmother, raised the three kids by herself.

That is not completely true. My grandfather had much more influence on my life. This is Melinda the misandrist acting as if all men are bad and all women are good. Melinda is a perfect example of a bad female person, rotten to the core.

Much like her son, Robbie was a dreamer. She dreamed of instant riches, compulsively gambling and squandering the family's meager assets. Furtively borrowing from her mother's savings earned in the local sewing factory, Robbie managed to stay just ahead of her creditors. Finally, Robbie remarried and the family had stability for a while.

My mother has had problems with gambling since before I was born. I have been in a casino one time and found it rather boring. There was no stability as this person states at any time during the marriage between my mother and James Dickson. My mother's gambling habits destroyed the first marriage to my father and the second marriage to my stepfather.

Most people know me as a very pragmatic, bottom line businessman.

Robbie's new husband was James Dickson. They would have a child together, James Jr. Karl was close to his stepfather and supported him through legal troubles that incarcerated Jim Dickson when Karl was a young man.

I was never close to my stepfather, however am very close to my half brother. James Dickson, Sr. served 3.5 years of a 7 year prison sentence. I helped him and my half brother through it. Not every guilty party went to prison and the matter totally separated my family. For the record, all but two persons in my family are on my side of this issue and what happened in the early 1980s.

Exceptionally bright, and gifted with a near photographic memory, Karl learned quickly. He attended the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville for three years, but did not graduate. Instead, anxious to get out and make money, Karl took an exam that gave him an architecture license without a diploma.

Actually, my reason for leaving the University of Arkansas School of Architecture had nothing to do with "anxious to get out and make money". This is yet another "Researcher Lie". This was during the Vietnam war where college was a haven from being drafted. There were some dynamics in my family and personal affairs that necessitated that change in my life. The "exam" is called the Equivalency Exam and entitles a person to take the professional licensing exam.

When my license was presented in 1982, the audience was informed that I had made the highest score in 27 years in the Gulf States Region of the American Institute of Architects Architectural Licensing Board.

The state architect licensing board reported that: "Karl Wilhelm Schwarz was licensed as an architect in Arkansas on February 22, 1982. His license to practice in Arkansas was revoked due to failure to renew his registration July 31, 1985. He would not be eligible to become licensed in Arkansas as an architect because Arkansas now requires a five (5) year degree in architecture."

Actually my license expired and was not renewed while I lived in Reston, VA from 1989 to 1992. Whomever at the Arkansas State Board must have slipped up because in 1988 and part of 1989 I as a senior architect in another firm in Arkansas, legally and with the license by the way. Yet another Lie by your researcher. I do not tend to pay for what I do not need, so the annual renewal fee was simply not paid because I simply had no intentions of going back to practicing architecture. That is actually my right to choose by the way.

With his architecture license as an entre, Karl associated himself with three other men of the firm, Turner, Dyer and Alessi. He quickly came up with a scheme to build a "slack water harbor" in Helena, Arkansas. For those unfamiliar with this term, "slackwater" harbors are large ditches dug from deep rivers to a specific point inland. The idea is to give a city without a seaport, access to over water transportation. While this might have been a great idea in the days of the mighty riverboats, it hasn't been the big industry or tourist attraction it often is sold as.

I was a partner in Turner Dyer Architects well before February 22, 1982. DCM Corporation was formed in early 1981, well before the "license entre".

Turner Dyer was a small architectural firm that I became a partner in during 1979. Alessi Construction was a completely separate company. Jimmy Alessi is not an architect, was never a partner in any architectural firm. There was never a firm named Turner, Dyer, Alessi. All of us merged activities into a company we formed named DCM Corporation in 1981, the first true design-build firm formed in Arkansas. That was due to a change in the laws in the early 1980s whereby architects, engineers and contractors could form, within limitations, design-build firms with common ownership.

Helena approached us, not the other way around as this person suggests. We were doing a lot of work with the Arkansas Industrial Development Commission and that led to the Helena project when Reagan axed all such water projects in the early 1980s. In the absence of federal funding, we showed them a way to privatize the project.

In slightly modified form, the project is now built using the exact guidelines we developed. It is not a tourist attraction in any manner. It has to do with industry and jobs, speaking of which Melinda needs to go get a job and quit being a leech off anyone she can.

In her divorce from Craig Franklin, the judge was curious as to why Melinda thought she deserved excessive and extended alimony. Her response, paraphrased since we do not have the transcript yet, "I cannot go to work for the patriarchy." The words of a misandrist that appears to be unqualified for the workforce best I can tell.


Convinced that his idea would create a tourist attraction, generate new industry and lots of cash for everyone, Karl raised money from everybody that he knew and from anybody that anyone else knew. Relentlessly charming and industrious, Karl persuaded his sister's husband's father's friends to invest. Member of large Italian families from New York, those friends of inlaws gave Karl about $300,000. One hundred thousand came from local affluent families; about $200,000 came in from friends, and a trusting banker at the Worthen Bank lent Karl around $100,000. The money went quickly. $90,000 on a feasibility study, a salary for Karl, options on land that might be profitably developed, offices and entertainment of clients.

This person has made yet another completely false statement. There were no Arkansas investors involved in the Helena Slackwater Harbor project, whatsoever. The Worthen Bank loan was to Turner, Dyer Architects and was in no way connected with the Helena Slackwater Harbor project or DCM Corporation.

Two New Jersey construction firms funded over $500,000 in pre-development and engineering costs as part of their participation and commitment to the project. They signed joint venture agreements that defined what all parties were to do. It is called "BUSINESS". That was a cost of doing business on large projects, this one being $88.6 million' options, soil borings, civil engineering, etc. That commitment was due to Prudential Bache, not my "in-laws". There were no "local affluent families", so another lie by this researcher. There were no "$200,000 came in from friends", so yet another lie.

Name the "Local Affluent Families". They cannot for they do not exist.

Name the "$200,000 came in from friends". They cannot for they do not exist.

This researcher of yours Corinne is either an idiot or relied on a complete idiot as her source, or both.

No "trusting banker at the Worthen Bank" loaned me or DCM Corporation any funds. That loan was to Turner Dyer Architects. Myself and DCM did not bank with Worthen as it was owned by the Stephens family, long time political enemies of mine.

Funny that your researcher cannot find or did not mention that I am the chairman, chief executive officer of a very large international financial group. One where "integrity" is an absolute and they know much more than your researcher and one that has $1 trillion in authority. One that has bankers from Europe and South America on the board as well as myself.

Funny how things are left out and twisted around backwards by your researcher.

You might want to stay tuned to www.tomflocco.com. Another article is about to break that will set off the 9-11 bashers again, the same ones we ignore like Kyle Hence, WebFairy, Holmgren, Haupt, etc.

Even the Arkansas Times ran a story in 1983 on Karl and his amazing plan.

At the end of that article were two pages regarding Schiavone Construction and Ray Donovan, Secretary of Labor under Reagan. Some may recall the 167 count indictment brought against Schiavone Construction and Ray Donovan. After the damage was done, the "federal source" admitted that he had been paid to make up the entire story. That was the first time I was interviewed by the FBI and found no wrong doing, or any of the other allegations this bogus blogger puts forth to you Corinne.

Feel free to post the Arkansas Times articles of the project and of Schiavone and myself addressing the false FBI / DOJ charges. We will be doing so.


For a couple of years, things looked rosy mostly because ignorance can be bliss. Secretive by nature, Karl managed to keep his investors from discovering the disarray in the project. By 1985, it was clear that the harbor wasn't happening. The Worthen bank called their note.

Our contract [DCM Corporation] with the Helena Port Authority expired in May 1983 and the company had already dropped the project due to local politics. The existing Helena port was operated by Pine Bluff Terminal Warehouse & Leasing, a company owned by the Jackson Stephens family, a considerable money source for Clinton. They spent two years undermining the new project so they could keep their Helena port contract.

The project was about creating jobs in a county that had 22% unemployment at that time. It was never about tourism in any way. The underwriters for the project were Prudential Bache Securities and behind the scenes was Prudential Insurance Company of America, Industrial Real Estate Group.

There was no "disarray" except when I chose to move my office out of DCM offices and pursued other business interests. None of them were bringing in any revenues, none of them were fighting the battles that had to be fought. When their revenue producer left, yes, they were upset, yes they were in disarray, and yes they were caught in the reality of having to get off their butts and work. No firm can survive on the efforts of just one person.

Typical of traditional Southerners, this had been a handshake deal. When the trusting, elderly banker learned that the loan couldn't be repaid, his heart seized. He died. Others were ruined. They lost their savings, investment properties and their homes. Some interviewees asked that their names not be mentioned either because remembering the deal's repercussions was too painful or because remembering how a friend fleeced them cut too deeply for words.

This paragraph is yet another total lie by this blogger. It was not a handshake deal. Loan documents were in order and signed and the loan was to Turner Dyer Architects and in no way connected to Helena, DCM or myself. The loan predated Helena and the formation of DCM Corporation. I was a co-signer so they could get the loan to stay in business.

The "Worthen Bank" your researcher keeps referring to is the same bank affiliated with Stephens, Clinton, BCCI, Mochtar and James Riady, John Huang, Clinton fund raising scams. In short, it is not my kind of bank.

There were some that their backs were to the wall before I ever met them. The Arkansas economy was severely hindered by having a 10% usury limit with prime rates from 14-21%, and the huge S&L crisis that hit at the end of that cycle. The S&L crisis started in Arkansas when FirstSouth went down and took over 40 S&Ls down with it. Many architect, engineering and construction companies suffered and I had nothing to do with the high interest rates that caused the problems or the usury law that sucked all of the cash out of Arkansas or the S&L crisis that tanked the Arkansas economy.

They can blame it on anything they wish, but economic forces were huge and not anything I could change. I could and did work against them and solved or alleviated much. I went multi-state and they stayed provincial, to their own detriment. That is way I was well paid and earning it is not against the law or even immoral or unethical.


Within his personal life, Karl was as secretive and chaotic as his business. Married young to Lois Love, by 1985, they had a young son, Ryan who was the apple of his mother's eye. Lois had problems conceiving because of her anorexia-bulimia. When she controlled her need to purge enough to be able to conceive, she was overjoyed. While Lois reveled in motherhood, Karl was frequently gone. At first, he was out working investors in the slackwater harbor. Then he took up hunting or at least that is what he told Lois although he seldom brought home any game. Finally, it became clear that something else was going on. Karl was hunting, but not deer.

My life has always been an open book, except to those that try to twist and harm. Lois never wanted children. That was a major issue in our marriage and her issues were a combination of attitude, psychiatric, and health related to her eating disorders. The bulimarexia [bulimia - anorexia, known as the worst eating disorder because of the underlying psychosis] never appeared until after the birth of the child in 1980. Her not conceiving was called "birth control pills", not bulimia - anorexia. Most of 1982, 1983 and 1984 Lois and myself were separated. That was during the period of time I was 29 to 33 years in age. I am now 54.

These are the lies of Melinda the Misandrist. That title is not according to me, it is according to her daughter, Morgan Pillsbury.

I would not run out of fingers on one hand citing how many times my "loving wife" had sexual relations with her husband in 4 and a half years and then confused as to why her husband was walking out the door. In short, she was not all there then or now.

There is a word to describe Lois as a parent - inattentive. Same word describes her as a wife.

You might want to check Arkansas Game & Fish records Corinne. During this time I brought home over 10 deer and that many turkeys, and ducks, and other game.

I started duck hunting when I was 14, deer hunting at 16, turkey hunting at 18. In short, I did not "take up hunting" after I met Lois Love. I was already an avid hunter long before I met her. My first "hunting vehicle" was a 1977 IH Scout, so well before 1985. Another lie by your researcher, but what else is new with this bogus researcher?

Since Lois spent most of her weekends running home to mommy, there was little reason for me to stay home when I could hunt with friends or go fishing or play golf.

This is "painting a picture" by your researcher and the liar is who wrote the piece for you to post and I am now responding to each and every one of her lies.

Your researcher might want to call Lois back and ask her about the two times she was arrested for shoplifting laxatives [many bulimics do it], and one of those times had "lovingly" left our son unattended in the store for hours while she was downtown being booked in after her arrest. The arresting officer specifically asked her if she had a minor child with her, and she said no. Truth hurts, reality bites.

Melinda likes to cast women as heroines and all men as bad. The problem with that is Melinda is rotten to the core. When we have the ISP logs on the other two people, we will know exactly what to do and we will respond legally and in force.

I am not the only person that sees Melinda's hand in this matter. I guess she forgot that Morgan Pillsbury is well aware of her use of "Madame Karnak" to cover her slimy trail.

He was pursuing a woman, Marilyn McDougald Moody. Karl has called her "the love of my life" to many people who have corresponded with him via email. Lois asked Karl whether he wanted to work on their marriage or give up. He moved out the next day. A week or so after Karl's departure, Randy Lee Moody, Marilyn's husband phoned. He was trying to collect on a hot check of Karl's. Comparing notes, Randy and Lois discovered that Karl's "hunting trips" appeared to coincide with Marilyn's overnight visits at girlfriends or "out of town" forays.

Marilyn's ex-husband called, not her husband.

Lois made no such statement to me about saving our marriage. She had been to virtually every marriage counselor, psychiatrist and psychologist in central Arkansas and was refusing to address the issues to make the marriage workable. I got tired of paying large bills for nothing. Many times she would take the child and use that as an excuse to not discuss what needed to be discussed in her counseling sessions. My New Year's Resolution for January 1, 1985 was to move on with my life. Lois is over 5'-8" and weighed only 94 pounds when we split. That is pretty sick with an eating disorder any way you want to slice it, no pun intended.

I have known Marilyn McDougald since September 1969. We dated long before I met Lois Love and before she met Randy Moody. When we were 19 and 15, we did not realize what we had. When we were 33 and 29 we had wised up a lot.

I have never written a check to Randy Moody; there was nothing for him to "collect". That is a blatant lie and who had a right to collect was me. He was ordered to make the payments on his marital home and was refusing to do so, the scofflaw that he is. I covered some of the payments myself so his ex-wife and two children would not be homeless. The check cleared but he used that as an excuse to dupe Lois. She now realizes that she was used, for years by Randy Moody.

For the record, Randy used to be a drug pusher. If they want to open this all the way up, let's tee it up. His two children have both been convicted of DUI and drug pushing. I have zero tolerance for drug pushers and users so when they started with that conduct, the relationship began to sour with my stepchildren. I do not support drug habits.


Randy and Lois became friends through this difficult time. Later they would marry and sue Karl for unpaid child support. Karl and Lois's divorce battle turned bitter quickly. There are over 12 years of court records reflecting the blood-soaked turf of child custody, child molestation allegations, property divisions and much more.

We married in 1985, they married in 1992. As of this time, I had full custody of my son; Lois was not paying any child support. Again, your researcher is a blatant liar. Lois recently admitted to our son Ryan that she had come to realize that she was used by Randy Moody. Randy Moody and Lois divorced after they got their way with Marilyn and myself.

We finally decided that it was no fun being hated for loving each other. The vindictive ones are Randy Moody and Lois Love, and Melinda Pillsbury Foster. Neither of them could tell the truth if their lives depended on it. Melinda is the type of person that you can ask her a question, to which there is no downside in telling the truth, and she will lie in your face. Truth and Melinda are not synonymous.

Who paid the price due to the revenge Lois and Randy sought on us were the children.

Fact, Corrine, custody of my son was removed from her and placed with me. Better yet, ask Lois why Brandy Moody [the sexually abused daughter according to the claims she made to Virginia Child Protective Services and Arkansas Child Protective Services, naming her father Randy Moody as the abuser, not me] and Kristopher Moody ran away from the Moody home to live in our home. When I got custody of my son, the Moody children split and came with us.

Ever see a sexually abused female leave a safe home and move into a dangerous home? That just does not happen, ever. They came to us for protection. By the time the Arkansas Supreme Court finally ruled on the custody matters, all three children were living with us by choice, and in the case of my son, by court order.

For the record, Corinne, when this child was allowed to be exposed to her father while we were in Virginia trusting the state to protect her, Lois and Randy took her 60 miles away from Little Rock in violation of a court order that removed all three children from them, and threatened the child until she recanted and said I was the guilty party. The cell phone records are part of the exhibits in the court records and we still have the entire 10,000+ page record.

When Marilyn and myself learned of this, we went straight to authorities in Arkansas and took polygraph examinations addressing each and every allegation the child made after she was subjected to terrorism and duress by Randy Moody and Lois Love.

When we presented the results of the polygraphs to the court, and petitioned the court for an order that Lois Love Schwarz Moody and Randy Lee Moody answer the exact same questions, they refused. Go figure.

Those polygraph results will be posted on my political website for the world to see for I have nothing to hide and they have much to hide.

The judge that refused to hold them accountable used to practice law with Randy Moody's brother. He refused many times to recuse himself from the case due to conflict and his obvious attempts to suppress the case from being decided.

Poor Randy and Lois and their "difficult times". They put our three children and Marilyn and myself through plenty of hard times with their lies. Melinda and them are a perfect threesome of hate, vituperations and lies. We might post their psychological test results if they wish to keep adding to their lies and those being put forth by your bogus "9-11 concerned citizen".

I wonder if Lois admitted to your researcher that Randy Moody pointed a gun to her head regarding her compliance in helping to get her child abusing husband off scot-free? We could post those records but think they will be held for now until this matter is fully sorted out. She was so upset she could not go to work that day.

I wonder if Lois admitted to your researcher that my son was thrown out of the Moody house because he would not go into a court of law and lie for Randy Moody? They were telling the children what to say in court.

The court ordered all 4 adults to take MMPI tests and the results were interesting. There is a lie detector built into the MMPI that is used to adjust the test answers when a person is lying profusely (false posturing they call it) in answering the questions. It is called the F-K Index and is a sure way of catching a person trying to dupe the test.

My F-K Index was +3, a sure sign of being honest in answering and no underlying problems detected. Marilyn's was -7, no significant findings against her. When the F-K Index surpasses -15, it is a sure sign of the person not being truthful in the answers.

Lois Love's was -22. Oops, automatic test results adjustment for lying. One of her MMPI scales (not a good sign) placed her in the 1/100th percentile of all adult humans. The line plot went outside the scales of the test. The test did in fact detect that she has very serious emotional problems.

Randy Moody's was -27. Oops, automatic test results adjustment for lying. Randy's test results showed he was not the model citizen he purports to be and the biggest liar of the 4 adults. But then, according to his own daughter he had plenty to hide and the gun pointed at Lois was for a reason that fit the daughter's allegations "to the letter".



Howard Lovy's Nanobot blog, Portland Indymedia Blog and PicassoDreams have run queries and located the voluminous court records available. Attorneys on both sides suggest that the depositions, replete with tales of a CIA/mob connection, and various other "fantasies" were entertaining, but factually impaired.

That is hilarious Corinne. My attorney would not talk to you or your blogger under any circumstance and the other attorney is dead. No such attorney made this statement. Another lie told by this blogger. Lois Love's attorney asphyxiated himself in his car, in his garage rather than face the criminal charges of forging my name.

No one ever said a word about me preparing the quitclaim deed or me forging Lois' name. The Arkansas Supreme Court ruled on the facts that it was my name that had been forged. Your "researcher" is pathetic with facts, chronology, truth, etc.


When Karl was ordered to quitclaim a piece of property to Lois, he made out a quitclaim to an incorrect address and then attempted to unload the property by forging Lois's name. This resulted in another lawsuit against Karl and could have landed him in jail. But, like so many of Karl's adventures, when admonished about the illegality of his actions, he blamed the situation on other people.

The quitclaim deed was prepared by Ronald J. Bruno, Esq, deceased. He was the attorney for Lois and the quitclaim deed was not prepared by me. I was ordered by Judge Judith Rogers to sign it or be incarcerated until I did. She exceeded her authority in that under Arkansas law a chancellor only has three options in dealing with "marital estates of the entirety", i.e., the marital home. The judge could order that I purchase her equity, or she purchase mine, or the home be sold, equity split 50-50. I was ordered to just give my half of the home to her, something I DID NOT have to do under Arkansas law.

When I refused, Ronald Bruno prepared the quitclaim and got an "emergency hearing" to force me to sign it.

The matter went to the Arkansas Supreme Court, and the decision they handed down was in my favor. That the chancellor exceeded her authority under Arkansas law and the forgery was MY NAME, not Lois' name. Your researcher is a flagrant liar.

This "concerned 9-11 truth person" is lying to you and the world Corinne:

 link to 64.233.167.104

"...In March 1976, Karl Schwarz and his wife, Lois
Love Schwarz, purchased Lot 11 of the Hilltop Manor
Addition in Little Rock (Lot 11) as tenants by the entirety. In January 1985, the Schwarzes separated, Karl Schwarz moved out of the home, and a divorce action was filed. In the resulting divorce decree dated September 12, 1985, Karl Schwarz was ordered to quitclaim his interest in the marital home to Lois Schwarz, who later resumed using her maiden name of Lois Love. He did not do so....."

After the Arkansas Supreme Court ruled in my favor, we filed criminal charges against Mr. Bruno and he took his own life the next day. Many other parties had filed charges against him too because he was running a racket in the courts along with the judges making them "campaign donations" out of plundering the lives of citizens.

This rabbit hole goes much deeper though Corinne. In 1982, then Governor Frank White lost the governor's office back to Clinton. I was asked by RNC to run against Clinton as a Republican candidate in 1984. I ultimately declined, but that is enough to put a person on the threat radars in Arkansas. I was asked again in 1984 to run against Clinton in 1986 and I declined again.

Judge Judith Rogers is a very close friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton, and was one of their invited guests at the Inaugural Balls. I was contacted by the Arkansas State Police, Judicial Investigations unit because of a complaint filed by another man.

Some of the money that Ronald J. Bruno was fleecing out of me (and others) with abusive orders and forged deeds was finding its way into the campaign coffers of Judith Rogers in her bid to seek election to the Arkansas Court of Appeals. If that sounds "Clintonesque" - it is and it was.

Needless to say, she was forced to resign from my divorce case in a big hurry. The case was then assigned to Chancellor John Earl. He is also a close friend of the Clintons and was appointed to fill out a term of a judge that had health problems. See below.

Throughout the peregrinations of fortune that Karl experienced, he failed to pay the $35 a week pittance ordered as child support. Even when he was flush, Karl did not pay $140 a month to maintain his son. Eventually, after the arrears reached $6,000, Karl was sent to the county jail by a judge who called him a sociopath before sentencing him.

That is a complete and total lie by your researcher.

In August 1986 I had to be rushed to the hospital due to an acute gall bladder attack and infection. I could not work or operate a vehicle for over 6 months. There was never $6,000 in back child support, the figure was $910 that accrued while I was recovering and could not work. That was also after the divorce and their total wrecking of my business and income.

I was sentenced to 6 months in jail by Chancellor John Earl in March 1987, and the Type I drugs I was having to take to treat the gall bladder condition were not allowed into the jail. In short, I had to tough out one of the most painful human ailments on 2 aspirins a day. You and your researcher ought to try it.

The day I walked out of that facility, I went straight to the largest Arkansas newspaper and provided them with information that led to Chancellor Earl having to resign from the bench. He is a convicted drug felon, was appointed to the bench illegally by the powers that be in Arkansas and was sitting illegally as a judge. He was the hatchet man for me for exposing the political sleaze of Judge Judith Rogers. Arkansas laws are quite clear that convicted felons cannot be elected or appointed judges, period.

When the sexual abuse issue surfaced, this "removed judge" was appointed guardian ad litem to represent the Moody children by the same judge that refused to resign from the case due to this prior relationship with the "defendant's brother". Such is Arkansas and why I will never live there again.

For years, Lois Love lied to our son that she had nothing to do with my being incarcerated. When I showed my son what they filed, not seeking $910, specifically seeking incarceration, he knew he had been lied to for years by his mother.

Many in Little Rock know that the incarceration was political payback, not a judicial matter, for exposing Bruno and Judge Judith Rogers, and later providing the information to force Earl from the bench.

The matter never hurt my business at all and still does not.

They thought they had broken me and my will. They did not even come close, and neither does your bogus researcher.

In 1994 I designed the RNC strategy that took the House and Senate away from Clinton. Marilyn and myself spent election night 1994 with RNC Finance in Washington, DC at the table of William J. McManus, former treasurer of the RNC. Mr. McManus knew my entire background and far more than your bogus researcher knows.

For the record, Lois has already figured out that your researcher is using her and twisting what she said, what they talked about. Several people in Arkansas have pointed out to her that her stupidity is surfacing again.

For the record, my health is excellent and few 40 year old men can keep up with this 54 year old man.

While in jail, a church with a fundamentalist orientation sent members to visit Karl and even lent him a car when he left. Perhaps praying to get out of jail with these church members is where Karl began what he has described as his prison ministry in his book, "One Way Ticket to Crawford."

No one from that church visited me even once. Since I had no income in jail, we lost our vehicle and the church gave us the car. They did not loan us a car. The prison ministry started before 1987, started in 1985 and ran through 1988 for 37 months.

Your researcher is quite pathetic with dates, facts, chronology, etc.

The Apostle Paul spent many years in prison for refusing to back down from the truth. You are about to see that you and your "researcher" have failed to back me up even one inch. My church dug deep and found out that what they were doing to me had nothing to do with the law, was all about political payback.

I do not apologize for the sins of others, and nothing has ever broken me.

I do not cower in the face of lies and liars. Your researcher is such a coward she will not put a name to her rubbish and garbage. This much twisting of simple facts is intentional.

For 12 years after the harbor fiasco, Karl dodged creditors and set up other businesses that failed. In 1987, he created a "digital video business" under Marilyn Moody Schwarz's name with Thurman B. Patterson as the only other officer.

1983 (Helena Slackwater Harbor) + 12 years = 1995 and we were living in a $700,000 home. From 1985 to 1993 I set up no businesses, worked for or with others. Your researcher is "calendar challenged" and "fact challenged".

Thurman B. Patterson was and is my personal attorney. I met with him last night to pick up over 10,000 pages of documents related to what your researcher is trying to trash me on, and to give him the green light to find Melinda Pillsbury Foster and slap her with a massive lawsuit. He will be evaluating whether or not to add others as defendants.

This is not a "no harm, no foul" work of lies by your researcher. There will be major legal repercussions for your researcher.

I was not dodging creditors, was keeping Randy and Lois out of my affairs. That is quite legal by the way in dealing with ex spouses.

The correct year is 1997 as to when Inet Digital Video Corporation was formed, not 1987. Your researcher is really quite pathetic Corinne. Her true colors are shining, pathetically.


Marilyn and her two children fared no better than Karl's son Ryan in that he did just about as well supporting them as he did his son. Their lives were filled with chaos and poverty. Karl and Marilyn filed for bankruptcy in 1992. The following citations of this case are taken from the PACER online federal court information system.

4:92-bk-41522 Karl Wilhelm Schwarz and Marilyn Schwarz
Case type: bk Chapter: 7 Asset: No Vol: v Judge: Mary Davies Scott
Date filed: 06/17/1992 Date discharged: 09/15/1994

The records show that the bankruptcy was discharged near the end of 1994. Karl moved the family to Maryland to start over, but quickly became embroiled in yet another get rich quick scheme. From what can be pieced together, Karl convinced a number of investors to pool money to lease or option an office building that the GSA indicated interest in buying.

This blogger person, or her sources, are delusional. Marilyn and myself moved to Reston, VA in 1989, returned to Arkansas in January 1992. We never lived in Maryland for even one day. Either your blogger is an idiot Corinne, or she relied on babbling idiots as her sources.

As I stated earlier, I DO NOT SUPPORT DRUG HABITS. When Marilyn's children became involved in such conduct I cut them off. I provided vehicle, furniture, apartment and college expenses to my stepson and he flunked out in one semester. Too much drugs, too little studying. After 1992, I had full custody of my son and it was Lois that was not paying child support. I asked for none from her because of her emotional problems. In short, I did not try to beat on her, deny her access to her son, as had been done to me. Vindictive? Not hardly, I could have named her in the action against Ron Bruno and did not.

GSA Lease GS-10953-11B, 1325 East-West Highway, Sliver Spring MD, otherwise known as the NOAA II building.

GSA had an option to purchase the building at the end of the 5th year of a 20 year lease. Congress would not appropriate the funds for GSA to purchase the building so they exercised an option whereby they could solicit and appoint an "ASSIGNEE" to purchase it on behalf of GSA and restructure the lease.

I bid against many firms and won the lease award, became the assignee of the United States government to purchase that building and be the leaseholder for the remaining 15 years, at the rate of $6.86 million per year for 15 consecutive years. It was the largest GSA lease deal of 1994.

There was no group of investors as this person suggests that got hoodwinked or taken by me. When the matter went to trial, a group of investors put up $350,000 for legal costs and then tried to hijack the litigation with them purporting to be the legitimate plaintiff and attempted to push me aside and take over the lawsuit and the GSA lease and $52.4 million building leased to GSA. The court finally ruled that they were not the legitimate plaintiffs and sanctioned them $250,000 for attempting to defraud the court. I was allowed to proceed with the RICO lawsuit in federal court and was not sanctioned even $1.

Poor guys, they tried to screw me and defraud the Maryland court and got caught, were heavily fined.

I noted on the "Debate with 9-11" that they are claiming the 1981-1983 Helena Port Project and our 1992-1994 bankruptcy are connected. They are absolutely not connected in any manner whatsoever. Another stretch of the imagination by your researcher and another lie put forth by her.

The court that let Randy Moody walk free was trying to have Marilyn and myself incarcerated over the "legal fees" we were ordered to pay. This is the same judge that used to practice law with Randy Moody's brother and refused to withdraw from the lawsuit over a blatant conflict of interest.

The judge that helped to let a child abuser go free ordered Marilyn and myself to pay about $50,000 in fees. Mr. Bruno never got to collect his, since he killed himself over the forgery of my name. The other attorney got $15,000 in extortion and - I hear he is not doing too well. It happens. He never had the nerve to come back asking for more after the children all ran away from the other home and to us.

This was a GSA lease for 15 years, $6,886,529 per year for 15 consecutive years, and the building was $52.4 million. I bet that is a lot more than your Homeless Researcher has ever been able to amass.

I forced Melinda Pillsbury Foster out of my residence recently for total incompetence and lying to me, she used the handle "Madame Karnak" and has before, and within 10 days or so you post a hit piece on me.

This will not be hard to prove in a court of law that she was directly involved in this totally false set of "research".

She is what is known in the corporate world as "The Dreaded Tap Dancer", all talk, no performance, no accomplishments.


When the GSA bought the building directly from the owner, Karl sued. When the case was dismissed in Maryland as groundless, Karl and Marilyn returned home to Little Rock.

GSA did not purchase the building, I exercised the option as Assginee of the U.S. Government and a title search found that they had queered the title before GSA even signed the agreements with me. We were already living back in Little Rock in 1994, returned in 1992. This person seems to know nothing about following chronology, reading contracts, legal pleadings, etc.

Congress specifically did not allow for GSA to purchase the building. I was the assignee of the US government to purchase it on their behalf and lower the lease rate due to lower interest rates.

We returned to Little Rock in 1992, not 1994 or 1997 or 1998 or 1999. We never lived in Maryland.

Your researcher has yet to get a single fact right or straight. Probably her same degree of accuracy on 9-11 truth matters. In fact, I know that as a fact.

Again, my thanks to the blogs who have done the research.

These blog researchers have a long way to go to be accurate or truthful.

Back in Little Rock, Karl purchased a 5,000 square foot house in Chenal Circle that he could not make the payments on. Eventually, the utility companies turned off their electricity and water. Karl and Marilyn lived in this huge house, bathing and washing with the water from a neighbor's hose. Occasionally, that same neighbor would invite them over for a hot shower.

That was after GSA breached the deal with us. We bought the house in early 1994, lived there until 1998. GSA breached the deal with us in late 1995. Times were difficult at times but we managed. We did not have a $700,000 home because we had "no success". That same home in the DC area would go for around $2 million.

If you can survive an income change of $1 million after tax to $0, let me know. Odd, Marilyn and myself recall no hot showers at a neighbors house.

After much wrangling, with Karl appearing pro se (as his own attorney), the house was repossessed. Marilyn, tired of the chaos of the "Life with Karl" daily drama, filed for divorce.

Wrong again, I filed in 2001, divorce was granted to me in 2002. I have talked to Marilyn about the trash piece your researcher wrote. Frankly, she is laughing because it is apparent that your researcher is writing about herself and her own pathetic life. It is called "transference", ever hear of that?

Melinda does like to spin a yarn of how cruel life has been to her, but then, I know firsthand that it is her own fault. She plays the "sex card" and "sympathy card" with the best of them. That is how I first learned to what extent she is a flagrant liar.

It is slowly dawning on Melinda that she has just burned every bridge she had. Melinda likes to talk about "transaction costs" and she is learning every day that her "life check" just bounced. Those that she thought would support her for bashing me are turning on her. Your readers will learn at the end of this who Jay is.

By 1997, things were again at rock bottom. Karl had filed for a second bankruptcy to avoid both creditors and paying Marilyn a property settlement. Even though she entered marriage with a house, it is not clear that she left with anything.

1997? Our divorce was in 2002, this person does not pay attention. Only spinning her web of lies and misstatement of facts. That matter is between Marilyn and myself and none of this researcher's business. The bankruptcy was in no way connected to "avoid" creditors or a property settlement with Marilyn. Chapter 11 is reorganization, not a wipe out of the debt. The only "harmed parties" were where the court agreed with us that the claim was an "illegitimate claim". Vultures, you should know the type and sent many of them packing.

Maybe your researcher needs to get a calendar out and ascertain that 1997 is not 2001/2002, provided she can read a calendar. She sure is not good at reading her own research.

Check closer Corinne, an $89.45 million chapter 11 reorganization. Melinda Pillsbury Foster will never have that much success in her life.

Yet another victim of the Karl Express to Glory train of financial gain. Casting about for something to do, Karl became very interested in telecommunications and the Internet. It is not clear whether he or cronies set up the e*Capbank and the GlobalAxxess sites.

Those websites have been inactive since early 2001.

Both were part of an attempt to secure funding to take over failing telecommunications companies. Karl intended to purchase these companies with OPM and meld them into a worldwide conglomerate with himself at the helm. The deals failed, because despite all the effort expended (i.e. a Delaware LLC., an Arkansas corporation, an Antigua trust), Karl could not find the money to make the deals happen.

This person needs to read my book. In Chapter 14 is a transcript of a conversation with the White House regarding Global Crossing, September 9, 2003. Proof of funds was faxed to the White House on their request.

GlobalAxxess, later named COMMAXXESS, was the high bidder in bankruptcy for 4 telecoms, Viatel, Ebone, Williams Communications and Global Crossing. Major creditors did not want "high bid, due diligence" because of a type of fraud that was being covered up. We found it, the White House even admitted to knowledge of it September 9, 2003.

Millions of Americans were financially robbed and we stood up for them. Where were you and this pathetic researcher while I was on the front lines defending small investors? By the way, many of those small investors that were screwed over are solidly in my camp and recognize a sleazy attack when they see one.


Actually, there was another problem. Karl's proposal to save Global Crossing violated a number of pension and other agreements. The fact that Karl lacked the experience to run a huge conglomerate was just a little fly in the ointment compared to his finances. Throughout the 2000, 2001 and 2002, Karl worked his GlobalAxxess, Commaxxess activities.

Actually, our offer did not violate any such agreements or pension funds. Your researcher is obviously too stupid to understand such agreements or how to deal with them. The offer would not have removed the shareholders, who lost billions in some pre-planned investment schemes to lure and then take their money from them.

Again, where were you and this pathetic researcher while I was standing up to DC and Wall Street, and still standing up to them?


He never acquired any of the companies that he targeted and Chiaro has not confirmed that he had any relationship with them. There is a judgment of $2 million against Karl by UUnet. As of this date, it is not clear whether they have any way to collect on this judgment. According to Arkansas's Secretary of State, Department of Corporations, GlobalAxxess and Commaxxess have had their charters revoked. In Delaware, the names for GlobalAxxess Holding Inc is available. That's a good indication that the state revoked the company's charter.

We ordered $1.86 million in routers from UUNet CPE, owned by WorldCom and WorldCom had not delivered the circuits as of the date they filed to take back the routers. That is how WCOM deals with new telecom companies and was done to many others besides us. They got the routers back, the judgment amount was to protect if they did not.

CommAxxess was never an Arkansas entity, was Delaware; is now offshore, non-US.

GlobalAxxess ceased in June 2003 and was renamed CommAxxess. The FCC Global Crossing site has that information that is plain to see, plain to understand. The Arkansas charter was not renewed due to name change, nothing more, nothing less.

GlobalAxxess and its holding company [totally unrelated name] were never domiciled in Delaware. Missed again, the holding company of GlobalAxxess was never named GlobalAxxess Holdings.

The NDA with Chiaro [non-disclosure agreement] has long since expired. If they do not wish to expose themselves as Melinda Pillsbury Foster has that is their choice.







When asked about how he jumped from real estate to telecommunications, Karl explained that he learned all this high finance as a broker. A search of the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) yielded no - absolutely no - license for a Karl W. Schwarz, a Karl W.B. Schwarz or derivatives thereof.

I have never made any statement that I was a securities broker. Again, this person is twisting the truth. From 1981-1983, I was involved (in addition to DCM Corporation] in the design and execution of new financial techniques with Prudential Bache Capital Markets.

The techniques were called "putable instruments" and "defeasance financing", both of which I helped to create and the underwriters then made the products for brokers to sell. When US prime rates hit 21% in the early 1980s, we devised ways to keep the rates lower. Arkansas had a usury limit of 10% while prime soared to 21%. All businesses suffered and only the creative ones could do anything since money was leaving the state for higher return. One does not have to be licensed in securities to be good at math and develop solid trading strategies.

That was why I was traveling so much, not as this person alleges.

From 1986 to 1988 did real estate work outs resulting from the savings and loan crisis. That was with Robert Thomas Securities, part of Raymond James Financial Services. In 1992 I teamed up with Smith Barney, officed with them in Little Rock and maintained an office in Washington, DC from 1989 to 1996. The 800 telephone for my office in DC [not named Smith Barney] was the Smith Barney 800 line. The relationship between myself and Smith Barney is not anyone's business. My business cards did not say "Smith Barney", but I was one of very few affiliates of that company for a specific market development. My focus was on GSA leased properties and how to renegotiate those leases for higher credit rating, lower interest rates on what is called "taxable lease revenue bonds". Again, a technique to lower the cost of money.

Melinda knows how to spend it and bounce it and try to fleece and extort it. Otherwise, she is most unqualified to even comment on financial matters. She has been out trying to sell [desperate for money] restricted stock in the open market or to friends. She got that stock in her divorce from Craig Franklin and it cannot be sold to anyone but the founders of the company. Little technicality called stock fraud, which is something I have never engaged in.

The move to Reston VA in 1989 was directly related to the bank and thrift crisis hitting that area of the US about 4 years after it devastated AR, OK, LA, TX and other Midwestern and Southern states.

Flash forward to another Karl venture circa 2002. Reichenbach Group, LLC, a publishing company formed by T.B Patterson, would publish Karl's book, "One Way Ticket To Crawford, Texas." When the book was available, the newly christened, Karl W. B. Schwarz began to make the rounds of the Internet sites relating to 9/11.

Actually, the book came out in January 2005. Was involved in 9-11 matters well before that, all the way back to 1999. This person is hopelessly defective on chronology and keeping her facts straight. But then, maybe that is her exact point.

Reichenbach Group, LLC has nothing to do with the publishing of the book. A simple look at the inside cover clearly states - Reichenbach Publishing Company, LLC. The two companies have absolutely nothing to do with each other. One is no longer domiciled in the US, one never was. Your researcher must be "reading challenged" as well as fact challenged.

Are you familiar in the use of the word "myopic" Corinne? That describes your lead researcher.





He wrote a series of articles entitled, "Pop Goes the Bush Mythology." Doubtless, Karl's energetic evangelizing of this topic revealed many fundamental questions about 9/11. It galvanized people's interest. Karl sold these ideas as he sold so many of his schemes.

This person's "scheme" is clear to see. Lie and twist facts to discredit someone they do not like. We will stay the course on 9-11 and these detractors will be shown for what they are.

I would compare my "resume" on 9-11 versus this alleged concerned 9-11 truth person, any where, any time. That day will come soon when we sue her into a deeper hole than she has already dug for herself.

My book is going to second printing as you read this and much broader distribution; so sorry for your researcher. You should fire her or wash your hands of her.

Unable to resist self-aggrandizement, Karl tried to add gravity to his efforts, by portraying himself as a big player within the Republican National Committee (RNC). A search of the FEC records at Political Money Line turned up no political contributions made by Karl Schwarz or his company Patmos.

Patmos did not exist until 2004 so looking there for 1988-1996 was a complete waste of time. What name or company such donations were made from 1988 through 1994 before I stopped supporting RNC is none of this person's business. One of my closest friends at RNC was William J. McManus, former treasurer of RNC Finance. He was a long time member of the F Street Club and we had lunch there 2-4 times a month for years. Marilyn and myself were two of but a few people there on his 95th birthday and we spent election night 1994 in DC at the McManus table in the RNC Finance room. Only 156 people had access to that room, including the two of us.

Inet did not exist in 1990, was formed 1997 well after I parted with RNC.

He further embellishes his image with his claims of being the CEO of a nanotechnology firm, Patmos. Actually, many of his trips to speak about 9/11 have had a dual purpose; he is also seeking investors for Patmos.

Patmos is seeking no investors. This is a blatant misrepresentation and an outright lie by this blogger. The dual purpose is to meet with Patmos customers and universities that wish to collaborate with us on intellectual property research and development.

See www.patmosnanotech.com I cannot be blamed that your researcher is so totally inept she cannot find the website or so myopic that she looks in one area of nanotechnology when I could cite over 100,000 possible uses for nanotechnology. Your researcher cannot find anything, with both hands.

We have a collocation plant in VA where most of the R&D is done, over 200 employees. We have partners in VA, MD, FL. The company is domiciled in South Carolina, not Arkansas. T. B. Patterson is in South Carolina, AC 803, not in Arkansas as your "researchers" insist. He moved to South Carolina when I moved to GA. They err, big.

We have two major plants offshore that will be online somewhere around the end of this year, each costing US$130 million. One is in South America and the other in Europe. We have been invited to consider putting a major facility in Canada, but only thinking about it right now. Each is a $4 billion per year production facility, so I guess it depends on how one defines "success".

I am going to be outside of the U.S. for most of July after speaking engagements in Texas and then on to South America and Europe.

The companies that make our machine components are from 7 US states and two Canadian provinces. There have been quite a few meetings with them that your researcher has not known about, has misconstrued why I was traveling.

How did your whiz kid researcher miss all of that? And living under MY ROOF to boot until she got the boot for cause.



Interestingly enough, many of Karl's targeted investors are women, wealthy women. Those who have watched him in action opine that Karl's goal is to find an extremely wealthy woman who can keep him and his dreams in the lap of the luxury that he'd like to believe he was born to. Patmos has been his vehicle for gaining access to these women. There are many of them, too. Deborah on the west coast, Paula in Georgia, Amy, a nurse in Canada, to name a few.

"Targeted investors"? No, actually they [two of them] asked me to be involved in my company, not the other way around. "Opine?" Deborah is not "West Coast" and not wealthy. We have a relationship. Paula is not wealthy, mortgaged to the hilt and then some, not involved in Patmos at any time, and have not seen Paula since September 2004. We have no relationship and my move to GA had nothing to do with where she lives. The "nurse aid" in Canada is not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination [we went out to dinner one time in Richmond Hill Ontario and never had a relationship], and Amy is happily married, no relationship with me other than friends.

This is all a Melinda lie. Only 6 people knew about Paula, Georgia. You can classify that one as "strategic error" right into a massive and financial life ending lawsuit.

Melinda "opined" to her daughter Morgan Pillsbury "Karl will probably hit on me when I move to Georgia". Hate to burst a Pillsbury-Foster delusion, but I have never been drunk enough in my life to even entertain the horror of that thought. I find Melinda Pillsbury Foster to be one the least desirable females I have ever had the displeasure of meeting in every way a man could define "undesirable".

Melinda is angry because WE, myself and Patmos investors, decided that her ideas [described in detail at the end of my response] were not worthy of another dollar of backing. We cut her off from the money and she went to you Corrine. Trust me, there will be a huge price to pay for the trash piece that you published. Whether or not you are named in the lawsuit too depends on whether or not you disclose your source and post this reply, word for word. You might want to consult legal counsel on this one. In having business interests in Canada, banking in Canada, you are not on the other side of the border from me.

Who the investors are in Patmos is frankly none of Melinda Pillsbury Foster's business or anyone else for that matter. Patmos is a privately held LLC, key emphasis "Privately Held". Not based in AR, is domiciled in South Carolina. Would help if even a modicum of accuracy were in this person's research but such is always absent in the work product of Melinda Pillsbury Foster.

If this person's research is so shoddy on this matter, we can all presume that her research on 9-11 "truth" sucks too. It does for she does not know anything about the key 9-11 issues or how to prove it.


Like so many Schwarz ventures, Patmos is more idea than reality. Searches of international and national patent databases conducted via the US Patent office yield no intellectual property under the name Patmos, Patmos Nanotechnologies, Karl W.B. Schwarz, Karl Schwarz, Carl Schwarz, Bill Schwarz or any combinations thereof.

The scientists who collaborated with us are not US citizens, that is why two major plants are being inserted into South America and Europe. How and where the patents are filed, in what names, and immediately enforceable in the US under international agreements, is none of this person's business. They could search until Hell froze over and not find anything until we decide to go public with information including by what name the components might be found. Privately held is a right, as is privacy from such pinhead researchers that cannot follow any trail and draw such ludicrous assumptions based on nothing.

Your researcher missed over 30 entities that I control. If I wanted people to know, or even had a legal reason to disclose at this time I would, but I do not. My private business affairs are not for public review at this time; my choice.

There are 12 patents pending on the Patmos machine and not all in the U.S. There are components that all add up to a new type of machine and the components are not all filed in the US nor are they filed in the names this person is looking for.

This is not a researcher Corinne, this is a gossip queen that was fired for incompetence, lying and theft. When she started in with her attempts to extort money, I sent her ass flying out the door. Had she not left that day, the sheriff's department was going to come assist her in finding the door.

I noticed in the "public documents" you are disseminating that this moron researcher of yours provided SOS documents from Utah, Alabama and Nevada. Total waste of time for I have never resided or formed any entity in those states.

FEC Inet 1990 when it did not even exist until 1997. Your researcher needs to learn to read a calendar.

FEC Schwarz 2002-2004 when about 99% of this world knows not to look there during that period of time. Myopic means she looks for names or corporations, not PACs.

I have been saying it privately and will say it now publicly - your researcher could not sort out a scam in a Girl Scout cookie sale.

Searches of pending patents also yield no results. There are patents under Karl Q. Schwarz and Benjamin Schwarz, but not only do these not share the name of Patmos' CEO, but the patents are not "assigned" to the company. Searches of nanotechnology sites and postings left there indicate that in the small community of materials science, Karl Schwarz is not a recognized name.

Would have to have the right names under which they are filed for each component and this person that wrote this slam job has no right to those names. Even living in my residence, I kept Melinda out of my business and personal matters. Her conduct in my home made it clear that she should never be trusted as a confidant.

In Arkansas, where Patmos is incorporated, the department of securities has never heard of Patmos, which means there are no shareholders.

Wrong again. Patmos is an LLC, not a stock corporation. The Arkansas Securities Department does not oversee limited liability companies. Just to show how far off base your "expert" is Corinne, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC is a South Carolina LLC, not Arkansas. Limited Liability Companies are partnerships, do not have stock.

So, considering that Karl W.B. Schwarz is as hollow a man as Dubya, why does he hate him so? An educated guess might be that Dubya hasn't been caught and Karl has. Both have deceived and betrayed, but one man was a fortunate son whose wealth and familial connections obviated his need to ever pay the piper for his fiscal, moral, ethical and personal misdeeds. The other son wasn't so fortunate.

Hollow in this context is the con artist head of your researcher. Note, we are not backing up an inch. My efforts on 9-11 are moving forward, the campaign is moving forward and gaining many backers every day. I get more backers every hour than Melinda Pillsbury Foster has in the many months she has been masturbating on American Revival.

We are building a "big tent" to draw Americans together and change the course of this nation. That is an alien concept to Melinda Pillsbury Foster.

The "disclaimer" posted below by you Corrine is no help as to how deficient your researcher's work is.

I note that your researcher also added comments to the response I made to the 911 group. T. B. Patterson is in AC 803, not 501. That is South Carolina area code, not Arkansas. All homes in AR sold and they moved. Bad research and grasping to keep her lies intact.

On the updated "Debate with 9-11" your researcher has posted another lie. No one I know, including myself, has ever banked with Bank of Antigua. That is totally fabricated by your researcher and I have never uttered the words that I bank with that bank. I bank with another much larger international bank that has a branch there. The other bank I maintain accounts with is in Canada. So, you are not on the other side of the border from me.

You now have to question the integrity of your researcher that just makes things up as they go, on no basis of fact, and in fact has intentionally lied. In fact, the entire yarn she spun for your readers is actually a description of her own life, not mine.

Melinda Pillsbury Foster was trying to enhance her own lack of credibility by associating with my campaign and 9-11 truth effort to build up her two pet projects, American Revival and One Vote. I have a voice across this nation and she does not.

She started the American Revival Party and told many that I was "the frontal attack" of this new party movement. I am not a candidate of the American Revival wishing to have nothing more to do with the liar and con artist named Melinda Pillsbury Foster.

 http://www.americanrevival.ws

Melinda has dreamed up a "One Vote, One Voice" program to attempt to usurp the efforts of Black Box Voting and the many groups that have already joined that effort such as Coalition for Fair Voting. The Karl Schwarz campaign supports these efforts, not the One Vote, One Voice lunacy of Melinda Pillsbury Foster.

According to an email from Melinda, the One Vote, One Voice concept is the intellectual property of Van Hughes, and I know that Gina di Miranda is involved in it. I shall stick with Black Box Voting and their affiliates.

Not mentioned on Melinda's political party site is her "Five State Plan". Karl Schwarz does not support her Five State Plan at all. He does support the 50-state Plan developed by Jay Gell and Morgan Pillsbury. Morgan Pillsbury is the daughter of Melinda Pillsbury Foster, and yes folks, this "Mommy Dearest" tried to steal an idea from her own and make it her "intellectual property" so she could charge others for her $75 an hour fee.

I did not fall for it.

Melinda pitched a fit when I decided to not fund her Five State Plan and was even researching her "trashing article" on me in my home and trying to charge me $75 an hour for it under the pretense that she was diligently working on my campaign. When she showed her true colors, we secured the ISP logs as part of the evidence chain against her that we will assert against her. Gina di Miranda's ISP logs are being secured by the saem fraud investigation unit I handed this matter over to.

In fact, one of the "Five State" harmed parties that Melinda backs, the father [alleged sexual abuser] was not even in the United States when semen was found in a young girl's panties but the boyfriend of the purported "Harmed Mother" was in the U.S. and the little girl was staying with the mother since the father was outside of the country.

Just a small example of how inept Melinda Pillsbury Foster's research is when it comes to picking a cause so she can bill someone $75 an hour. Actually, inept is the wrong word, desperate is the right word. She is about to be much more desperate.

Included in those ISP logs for my residence are the porn surfing habits of her son Arthur, whom I caught one morning masturbating in my living room to the beat of the porn he was watching on my computer. It was 4am and the speakers were on; that is what woke me up. Also included are the Arkansas websites and her surfing the net to build information on me and then intentionally twist it into lies about me because I sent her packing and threw her sorry ass out of my residence. Either Melinda did the research or she was looking at websites Gina found and sent her to. We will sort that out too.

Included in those ISP logs are the research links for what Melinda intended to try to do to me because I was not paying her for doing nothing, refused to pay her for lying to me. She never hit a lick on my campaign, always trying to convince me to finance her American Revival Party plan, her One Vote, One Voice lunacy, and her Five State Plan she attempted to hijack from her son-in-law and daughter.

She commingled all of these matters to cover up her real agenda that was she would either get big money out of me or trash me.

She is running right now Corinne because I am not the only person looking for her, not the only person who intends to put her out of business permanently. After you published her "slam piece" on me, she is finding out by the hour and by the day that her game is over. We will find her, we will prosecute her.

Who is Melinda Pillsbury Foster?

She has used the handle Madame Karnak to trash other people, especially men. She either wrote this rubbish or she contributed and told the other person to use her handle. The ISP records from within my own home say all that needs to be said and are now in the evidence chain.

She is incompetent, a pathological liar, vindictive, a man hating misandrist, a thief, a sloven individual that trashed my home in a temper tantrum when I would not submit to her lies and extortion. An extortionist, a blatant misrepresenter of the truth and a person that could not care less about 9-11 truth unless she can make money on it at $75 an hour, or her gracious compromise price of $50 an hour. I cannot justify $10 an hour for her level of ineptitude and lack of work product.

Some of you may know who John Fund is, the former editorial voice of the Wall Street Journal. Mr. Fund is no longer head of that area and no longer working for the print version of the Wall Street Journal. Mr. Fund is facing criminal charges for attempting to beat Morgan Pillsbury to death and in fact, left her for dead.

As I was preparing this response, I called Morgan Pillsbury to ascertain to what extent Melinda had lied to me about Jay Gell, Morgan's husband, abusing Morgan. Not true that Jay is abusive to her, Morgan says, but Melinda has been playing that sympathy card so people will feel sorry for her and help her financially.

It took Morgan Pillsbury 4 to 6 months to heal after nearly being beaten to death by John Fund. That matter goes to trial soon in New York.

Morgan sent me this June 4, 2005:

From: Morgan [mailto: morgan@thepillsburys.us]
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:05 PM
To: Karl W B Schwarz
Subject: Re: your mail

I forgot to tell you, she sent an email to my attorney telling him she wanted to put a lien on all my legal papers in the Fund case and was entitled to any settlement I got from Fund because, " Morgan said I could have it". My attorney told her to go to hell. M

Imagine that Corinne, trying to steal what her daughter is legally entitled to. That is how shallow and desperate Melinda Pillsbury Foster is.

Jay Gell has developed a 50-state Plan to mount a counterattack on what is being done to American families and their children by the courts in the United States. Jay also has people who have approached him out of Canada for advice on how to stop the same abuse in your nation. People have created profit centers out of taking children away from their parents, and many of those children are being sexually and physically abused, moved into child prostitution and pedophile rings.

Since Marilyn and myself and our own children were abused by just such a process, I agree that it should be stopped and will back the 50-state plan to expose the courts and certain parties and the sleaze they represent.

It was in comparing the Jay Gell plan to the Melinda Pillsbury Foster 5-state plan that I started to see Melinda for what she is. She is always looking for ideas she can co-opt and put her spin to them, write a few words, make a few calls, then claim as "her intellectual property" and try to find someone that will pay her $75 an hour to work on her latest pet project.

My campaign is backing the Jay Gell 50-state plan because it is achieving results and Melinda Pillsbury Foster has yet to produce anything but hot air and waste my time.

I stopped at an ATM recently. Had $142 on me, withdrew $300. When I woke up the next morning the $300 that was in another pocket was gone, stolen while I slept. Do not know if it was son Arthur, or son Justin, or Melinda and do not care. I will never allow a thief to stay in my home.

I purchased Vonage VOIP telephones and they are now gone, Melinda took them. She has gone back into the Vonage website to cover her trail and put the account info into her name or aliases, but we will find her. Vonage is cooperating and wishes to not get entangled in a Melinda fiasco.

I recently learned from Morgan Pillsbury that son Justin has assaulted Ayn and Morgan, two sisters in that "Chaotic" family. With his misandrist Mother, maybe he hates females. All she does is make excuses for him and lies about other matters, always blaming it on a male.

Justin's getting caught selling porn tapes at 13 in junior high is an interesting story.

Morgan Pillsbury was not raised by Melinda Pillsbury Foster. She was adopted and raised by the Pillsbury grandparents that eventually would not even let Melinda into their home.

Justin Craig Foster [son] has strange habits, like staying up all night talking to his Internet girlfriend that he reportedly has never met face to face, in my living room and waking me up repeatedly. Melinda Pillsbury - Foster, even while married to Ron Kellett, had an affair with John Fund, the same person that tried to beat Morgan Pillsbury to death and is quite possibly the father of Justin Craig Foster, aka: Justin Duncan Foster. She was also having an affair with Craig FRANKLIN, who just learned recently that he may not be the father of Justin. The Fund attorneys have refused several requests for a blood test to prove that Justin is the son of John Fund, not Craig FRANKLIN. Stay tuned, this might get interesting too since Melinda married Craig FRANKLIN telling him she was pregnant by him, but John Fund might really be the father. She might well be after a big child support settlement herself out of John Fund since all of her other BS is coming to light.

I like Craig already [have never met him or talked to him], he does not like being lied to either.

Melinda would open and slam doors noisily, at all hours of the day and night. She has every appearance of being born in a barn, no manners, no consideration of others. To hear of her laxity of sexual morals, she might well have been born in a barn.

I finally had enough of Arthur surfing porn and using my living room to do it and occasionally masturbating in my living room.

We are awaiting confirmation that Arthur was asked to leave the home in CA because he was caught masturbating in front of the teenage daughter of the person [a Christian family] who graciously provided him a place to stay while Melinda was out hustling and trying to find her next victim, as in me. He was certainly surfing porn and masturbating to pornographic videos in my home, so this might be something breaking too.

Just this past Sunday, June 5, 2005 I learned from Morgan Pillsbury [daughter] that Melinda and Justin were thrown out of a house in North Carolina within days of moving in there. That was just before they moved into my home. Reason, the homeowner works for the military, her home computer is connected to a military base and both Melinda and Justin were specifically ordered to not go into that room or use that computer.

The lady came home, and darn, Justin was on her computer as specifically instructed not to do. The Pillsbury Foster home is full of three individuals that are of low moral character and think they can do whatever they wish, to whomever they wish, whenever they wish.

I also learned recently that Melinda paid to have Arthur go through masseuse training and he was dismissed from the training because he was fondling / molesting the female students he was practicing massage therapy on.

I finally had enough of them waiting until my bed time to do their laundry right outside my bedroom door, and not even trying to be quiet. They are rude, crude and inconsiderate people, and had all day to do such chores instead of 10pm to 2am in the late night.

As for Melinda, the final straw was her "Settlement Offer" to me claiming that she owed $4,250.26 on her cell phone. I paid it in March and there is no way she had used the phone that much in less than 45 days. In fact, she could not have turned the phone on, made a call and left it on for 45 days and racked up a charge that big.

Hi Karl,
Nothing would please me more than to have this settled. By the way, the cost of handling the cell phone as you asked was $4,250.26 and you are also responsible for that. My phone has now been turned off.
. Let's sit down and go over the figures and come up with a compromise. I am no more eager to stay here than you are to have me.
But I was promised three months as a condition for my relocating from Charlotte and will have to hold you to that unless we reach a compromise that is satisfactory.
I have explored my options and prepared a complaint to the Bureau of Labor here in Georgia but would very much prefer not to have to take that route as it would make the situation public, something to be avoided.
Hope all is going well with your campaign and fundraising.
Sincerely, Melinda

I called the same place I called in March when I paid her $162 phone bill, at a time she claimed $462 was due, and later the $2,000 claim below versus over $4k, again a lie. Cingular told me the exact amount and I refused to pay it. Was not the large $4k plus figure Melinda told me. When I told her she was a liar, she claimed she was not and would not leave until I paid her.

Of course, she did not want me sending the money straight to the cell phone provider, Cingular. She wanted a check and she would make sure it got paid. I did not fall for that either.

Instead of facing me in my own home, she would send emails, such as this:

-----Original Message-----
From: Melinda Pillsbury-Foster [mailto: TheMelinda@Pillsbury-Foster.us]
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:18 AM
To: Karl W B Schwarz
Subject: Re: update

Why would my bookkeeper lie to me?. Just call yourself. After you have
done that apologize. You know perfectly well you asked me to use the
cell phones instead of getting a voip first in Charlotte and then here -
which is what I wanted and then insisted on doing. If you had paid it
when you were supposed to do so you would have no DOUBT of the amount.
You would probably have decided the voip was a good idea, too.
When you and I talked I specifically said I have been told it was
high, over $2,000.00 at that moment. I will of course attach the bill
my bookkeeper is sending when I file the claim with the Board of Labor.

I did call and there was no $2,000 due, no $4,000+ either. Both were lies as was the $462 claim. Melinda is always fudging numbers to get more for herself.

That is probably the same $300 difference [$462 versus $162] that wound up being stolen out of my bedroom while I slept.

During the entire time from late March towards end of May, Melinda failed to get the American Revival bank account opened so her own fundraising could start. That is what was to have "supported her", not my campaign, not my nanotechnology company, not me personally. When asked if she had opened the American Revival bank account, all I got was excuses, not performance or "mission accomplished".

I made arrangements to have the locks changed and her forcibly removed if necessary. She left, but it took 1.5 days to clean up the mess she left behind.

Who is Karl Schwarz? A man who has been beat up again and again by liars and persons who have something to hide due to their own conduct. He is a person who tried to help this fraud Melinda Pillsbury Foster with room and board and she started demanding payment for work she was not doing, had not done.

The system completely let Marilyn, myself and our three children down. That is why I am backing the Jay Gell 50-state plan, to help put an end to the abuse being heaped on families across this nation.

Karl Schwarz is a man who has had many allegations made against him and faced them all, defeated them all. Karl Schwarz is a man that will stand on any front line against anybody when issues of right and wrong are at stake.

In fact, this con artist was working on this slam job on me right in my own residence and expecting, demanding and attempting to extort $75 an hour to do so. There will be Hell to pay for that.

She even tried to lay claim to my 41 page political platform, as in it being HER intellectual property, when she added her type of American Revival drivel and we deleted those paragraphs as not being acceptable.

Thanks to Clinton and what happened on the GSA building in Silver Spring, MD, the FBI was all over me during 1999 and 2000 and after 9 months, no civil or criminal findings at all. That disappointed a lot of people when the US Attorney and FBI could not even fabricate a case against me. Consider your source Corinne and disclose to us all who this bogus researcher is. You have placed yourself on very thin ice in publishing her lies.

Gosh, I have an ex wife that does not like me. The feeling is mutual and you Corinne are pushing gossip and lies, not truth.

She is such a sleazy coward, she left your name behind in the trail that we followed back to Melinda Pillsbury Foster, much like following the slime trail of a slug across a porch.

Congratulations Corinne, you relied on one of the most discredited liars in the United States and she has impugned your name as well as mine. You would be wise to retract and offer her no more venue on your website lest you become liable after you have been both advised of the facts, her lies and her motives, and forewarned that legal action against Ms. Pillsbury Foster is being assembled at this time. Within the last 48 hours, that legal action will include others.

She will be hearing from my attorneys regarding slander, libel, defamation, theft and some other things. When we find her, we will be sure to let the SEC know where they can pick her up.

Want to know what is funny Corinne? They have shot their entire arsenal and missed. Big deal, I have been married twice, have had to file two bankruptcies due to others breaching major agreements with me and my companies. I was a political prisoner in my home state because I stood up to judicial corruption. Other than that, nothing else to find or even twist into a Melinda Lie. We were going to disclose all of this on my political website and will still do so.

Melinda failed and as soon as we find her, she is facing huge legal consequences. If you protect her or who she is collaborating with in this slam job based on lies Corinne, be advised that aiding and abetting a felon on the run has it consequences too.

Stay tuned, my Strategic Political Action Plan will be unveiled this month. You should like how I would deal with Palestine and Israel and even US - Canadian relations.


Author's note: Many people were interviewed for this article. Public government sources provided information on licensing, business licenses, court cases and other aspects of the story. Some information was also gleaned from the web.

See also: Karl Schwarz forwards to YayaCanada his debate with "911 Team 8+"

Comment

yayacanada.com



Per your recent post:

More documents are coming by snail mail and will be posted as soon as received

Download - zip file of 61 search documents - 5.47 mb - June 3, 2005

Most of your zip file is idle nothing, pages that have nothing to do with nothing, and nothing to do with me.

Download - zip file of 4 documents - KS offer for Global Crossing - 1.20 mb - June 4, 2005

The file posted by you and your researcher is not the final version that was submitted to the creditors. Can your researcher get anything right? No, she cannot and we know why.


NOTES FROM "MADAME KARNAK"
These files show the deal that Karl was trying to put together with Global Crossing. What is important in these documents is that they show that he intended to form an offshore company in Antigua using the bank that I have already outed as his bank. They have some highlighting to show that oddly enough, for a DELAWARE AND ANTIGUA CORPORATION, Karl wanted to adjudicate disagreements in Arkansas or New York.

Also I have confirmed that Gregg Almand, the attorney discussed in Karl Schwarz forwards his debate with "911 Team 8+" , is trying to distance himself from Karl as other writers have asserted.

"outed" as the bank? The bank account was established with another bank, not that one. Minor modification in a legal document.

The bankruptcy was in SDNY, as in Southern District of New York. Could not hear disputes in a US bankruptcy in Antigua and SDNY would never surrender jurisdiction to Delaware. This researcher of yours is past pathetic and defective thought processes too. The GAXX document she found is NOT the final document. My attorneys and myself have the final doc and it is dated in late August 2003. Check the date on your researcher's "find". The final document was never posted anywhere that this lame researcher could find it. Way to go Corinne, another lie by your researcher.

As for Gregg Almand, there will be an update on him within several days after he has had a chance to discuss matters with my attorneys and Morgan Pillsbury, He will probably be providing the identity of the person that called him and the telephone number if Corinne does not, or wish he had.

Frankly Corrine, I have better things to do with my time. Your researcher is a blatant liar, loose with facts, cannot get anything right. Your researcher is about to be slapped with a multi-million lawsuit that is both civil and criminal in nature.

Thanks for posting. It is evidence against her, not me.

Answer to Schwarz question 10.Jun.2005 19:41

YayaCanada.com

Karl Schwarz's email said that he was going to post his response on his website, so I saw no need to go to the trouble of posting it on mine. See copy of his email below. I doubt that Portland Indymedia is Karl Schwarz's website, so once again his word seems to mean little. In addition, Schwarz is wrong about the identity of the person who submitted the article "Karl Schwarz: Unfortunate Son".
-------------------

From: Karl W B Schwarz
To: yayacanada.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 PM
Subject: My response to your researcher

What you posted and my response will appear on my website tomorrow, my attorneys file next week.

Sincerely

Karl

Why Would Another President Who Lies Be an Improvement 10.Jun.2005 22:49

MADAME KARNAK's best friend's sister's poodle

<p>This is completely laughable and worthy of Karl Rove himself. How exactly does this scathing, uncorroborated attack on a woman whom the YaYa Canada site writes is NOT THE AUTHOR of Unfortunate Son have anything to do with the very public documents available on Karl W. Schwarz? </p>

<p>More to the point, what does attacking this woman's sons have to do with proving Karl's innocence or guilt? I am appalled at this vicious and nasty attack on these three individuals. It is laughable that Karl Schwarz who aspires to the very public job of President doesn't have any tolerance for criticism. Does he plan to behead people who don't like him if he is in office? Because that is the only way that he will avoid criticism as President.</p>

<p>So, let's stick to the facts here. First, people in the public arena are not protected from the dissemination of information intended to give the public an opportunity to assess the character of the person. Karl, by announcing for President, has made himself a public figure. Melinda has not. She is a private person and therefore is protected by the libel laws (libel is printed: slander is spoken). Surely, a man who has been the CEO of so many companies would have been informed of these distinctions by his PR staff. Also, because the article on Karl Schwarz provided both the source articles AND the public sources where they were obtained, anyone can confirm their validity. That's standard procedure in the media. Karl not only doesn't provide any documents to support what he has said, he says that "he doesn't have to." WELL, KARL TO BE CREDIBLE YOU REALLY SHOULD.</p>

<p>Almost everything that Karl has written is supported by nothing more than HEARSAY apparently from this woman's daughter. What kind of trailer trash slease provides this sort of stuff about her mother to someone wanting to disparage her? Moreover, there is absolutely no proof of the daughter's allegations. If this whole exercise was to show how "fit" Karl Schwarz is for public office, well, I think that it only proved the original article's point: He is not fit to hold that high office. He is not an improvement on George W. Bush, but he lacks advisors smart enough and strong enough to keep him from this sort of malicious nonsense. </p>

<p>DOES ANYONE READING KARL'S VARIOUS RESPONSES ACTUALLY WANT HIM WITH HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER? He has demonstrated himself to be irrational, hypersensitive, vindictive and poorly informed on the law in general. Can anyone imagine any sitting politician engaging in this sort of nasty, mean-spirited tripe? Or threatening any organization that prints something about him? If I were the "investors" who had money in his company, I'd be paying a private investigator to find those patents and bank accounts and former companies NOW. If I were the ISP assistant general manager trying to sniff out other people's bit trails, I'd think twice about that, it is illegal. Clearly, Karl Schwarz doesn't realize that asking someone to invade the privacy of another person is an illegal act as well. It is called solicitation. So, Karl, you'd like to be a President who will break laws to get vengeance, subverts familial relationships to get "vengeance" for a perceived slight and who doesn't like to be criticized or questioned. GEEE....WHO DOES THAT SOUND LIKE?????? </p>

AND ANOTHER THING... 11.Jun.2005 17:31

MADAME KARNAK's best friend's sister's poodle's puppy

When the last comment was posted, I did not get to put my paws on it or I would have made sure that the HTML button was clicked. Here's my two barks worth on this whole thing.

Holgrem puts his thoughts down cleanly and clearly. He gives links, pictures and all the necessary things to prove his point. So does Webfairy. So did Madame Karnak. Actually, she left a slew of things for people to download from the YaYa site, so people could do their own research. Anyone who wants to find out anything about Karl W. Schwarz can go to PACER, the online court records system, it is very cheap (about 8 cents a page if you actually print them out), it's almost free if you just use the "download as text" button. Search for Karl, you'll find all the info that you'd ever want. You will also notice that there is no "B" in his court papers except for "Bill" in parantheses. Since I have never heard anyone use Bill as the dimunitive of Bernard, it is hard for me to believe that his given name is Karl Wilhelm Bernard Schwarz.

The only one who doesn't provide any real proof other than emails (hearsay) and a single link (which he doesn't mention happens to have a few "companion" links that put things in a different light) is, well, Karl. Instead of actually providing some information to clear himself, he attacks somebody else. I am actually laughing right now, because here's how it sounds to a dog's simple mind:

BUSH IS BAD. I AM GOOD. BUSH IS BAD I AM GOOD. BUSH IS BAD I AM GOOD. BUSH IS BAD I AM GOOD.BUSH IS BAD BUSH NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH. I TELL THE TRUTH. BUSH NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH. I TELL THE TRUTH.
BUSH IS A BAD MAN WHO MISTREATS PEOPLE. I DON'T MISTREAT PEOPLE. BUSH IS A BAD MAN WHO MISTREATS PEOPLE.

I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE I AM BETTER THAN BUSH. I AM A PRESIDENT EVEN THOUGH NO ONE CAN FIND MY COMPANIES EVEN ON HOOVER WHICH LISTS COMPANIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD. I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE THAT I AM A PRESIDENT. I AM GOOD. ANYONE WHO DOUBTS THAT IS BAD. I HAVE STOCKHOLDERS. I DON'T HAVE STOCKHOLDERS. I NEED INVESTORS. I DON'T NEED INVESTORS.

I AM GOING TO BUILD A PLANT IN TRINIDAD, VIRGINIA, SOUTH AMERICA, CANADA, IN MY BACK YARD, ON THE MOON. I AM THE CEO OF A CARBON NANOTUBE MANUFACTURING FACILITY. I AM THE CEO OF A CARBON TUBE NANOTUBE MANUFACTURING MACHINE FACILITY. OH NO. I AM THE PAST CEO OF A VAR FOR UUNET AND EVEN THOUGH I GAVE THEM BACK ALL THEIR STUFF, THEY SUED ME FOR TWO MILLION DOLLARS. IT WAS BECAUSE CLINTON HATES ME. IT WAS BECAUSE BUSH HATES ME. IT WAS BECAUSE I AM SO RICH AND SO POWERFUL THAT THEY HAD TO TAKE ME DOWN A PEG. TODAY, I AM THE CEO OF AN ARMS MAKER WHO MAKES PLANES OUT OF NANOTUBES? OR NANOTUBE MANUFACTURING MACHINERY? OR UUNETS.

I DUMPED A WOMAN AND HER TWO KIDS ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEY WERE BAD. I AM GOOD. I AM COMPASSIONATE. I SLANDERED TWO KIDS BECAUSE I THINK THE WOMAN TOLD OTHER PEOPLE THAT I AM NOT SUCH A NICE GUY. BUT I DID IT COMPASSIONATELY.

MELINDA IS BAD, FORGET BUSH. I AM GOOD AND NOBODY BETTER SAY DIFFERENT OR I WILL BEAT THEM UP. MELINDA IS BAD, FORGET BUSH. I AM GOOD AND NOBODY BETTER SAY DIFFERENT OR I WILL BEAT THEM UP. MELINDA IS BAD, FORGET BUSH. I AM GOOD AND NOBODY BETTER SAY DIFFERENT OR I WILL BEAT THEM UP.
BUSH WHO?

Even a poodle knows that this doesn't make sense and I'm a dog. Anyone else that can't figure out that this whole thing doesn't make sense at all, has more fleas than I do.

Who else is Karl Scwarz selling weapons to ? 12.Jun.2005 15:41

Gerard Holmgren

In an earlier post "Karl Schwarz - arms dealer or liar " , I alluded to the fact that Schwarz is an arms dealer. Of if he's not, then he's lying, boasting about an imaginery atcivity - one which he obviously considers to be worthy.

When questioned about this during the email debate, to which I earlier referred , Schwarz claimed that the purpose of this business venture was actually patriotic - to save American lives. That's right. The $392 million involved had nothing to do with it. Of course...

Let's assume once again that when boasting about this deal, Schwarz is in the unfamiliar territory of telling the truth. If so, then the following excerpt from his spin is interesting. Bear in mind that it is made in the context of Schwarz complaining that he lost a contract to sell 32 UAV's to the US army. You can see that in my earlier post, where I quote Schwarz more fully.

But having made that claim, Scwarz also complains

[["We also turned down some business to have the priority slot available, for we surely thought someone in our Army would care about saving more lives." ]]

Other business ? So someone else - other than the US army wanted to buy these UAV's which Schwarz claims are at the cutting edge of high - tech warfare.
And it appears that Schwarz was perfectly willing to sell to them, and only turned the offer down because he thought that the US army had already spoken for his full production capacity. And when that deal fell through, it was too late to rescue the other "business".

Perhaps, I've misinterpreted the statement, and there's a more innocent explanation? Well if so, Schwarz is less than keen to supply it.

Because before posting this, I asked Schwarz 3 times to explain the statement. I got silence. In my third request, I warned him that it was his last chance to submit an alternative explanation, otherwise, I'd publish the apparent admission by Schwarz - indeed boasting, rather than admission - that he's not only an arms dealer, but that he'll sell to anyone.

So here we have an aspiring President, who is an arms dealer, doesn't care who he sells to, and doesn't consider it his duty to disclose to his would be subjects and underlings who he's selling to.

Does this sound familiar ?

Myself, I think most of it just bullshit. Given the hilarious "response" to Madame Karnak, and his total buffoonery in handling the questions posed by Nico and myself, it's hard to imagine this idiot being a high flying arms dealer.

But what is relevant is that this person is either extremely evil or an habitual liar - and quite possibly both. And he's making some rather big claims about S11 - like finding what actually hit the pentagon and what really hit the WTC.

Schwarz's gutter character wouldn't matter in relation to that stuff if he had solid independent evidence, checkable in the public domain. Such evidence transcends the character or reputation of the person who digs it up. For example, If I was a shady character, it wouldn;t make any difference to the fact that the BTS records don't show AA11 or 77. You can check it in the public domain. If Jared Israel was a shady character, it wouldnt have any effect on the validity of the documentation he exposed on the mythical Langley scramble. If Rosalee Grable was a shady person, it still wouldnt put a plane into the Nth tower video.

Conversely, even if all of us were known to be of exemplary character, it would still be worthless hearsay for any of us to claim " I know this because because sources who cannot be named for security reasons have come forward ". The supposed evidence then becomes nothing more than a personality cult - to trust or not to trust the person making the hearsay claims.

So with schwarz, we have the worst of both worlds. A gutter level liar, involved in shady activities - to put it nicely - who presents no evidence other than his word - for anything.

As we've seen, his word as worth about as much as the three bogus links which he trierd to pass off as containing his false specifications for a 737.

Accolades, Kudos and So Forth 12.Jun.2005 22:53

MadAME KARNAK's best friend's sister's poodle's puppy

Well said.

Well put.

Well done.

Karl W. Schwarz 28.Jun.2005 20:30

MadAME KARNAK's best friend's sister's poodle's puppy

Karl Schwarz has opened a new website: karlschwarz2008.com. He is soliciting campaign contributions, but to date has not registered his campaign with the Federal Election Committee nor, evidently, his Patmos Nanotechnologies securities. The interesting thing about his "securities" is that he is offering people shares in a partnership, which, of course, cannot be sold on the open market. Gee, do his investors know that? Additionally, he is sending harassing and threatening emails to the women that he imagines have perpetrated an expose' on him. It has not occured to Karl that Presidential candidates should expect to be investigated.

He even threatened one person with the PATRIOT ACT!!!! So, I guess that he doesn't want GWB to use it, but it is okay for him to use it? It is amazing how deep hypocrisy goes. Anyone who is interested in shutting this stuff down should contact RBNlive since they give him lots of air time and Tom Flacco his other shill.

Ruff

KISS = Keep It Simple, Stupid 02.Nov.2005 17:07

tired of the mountains of (dis)info

This 911 truth movement is constipated! "Follow the money"
has given way to "Follow the patsies". "Consider the source"
has become "Don't consider the content"!

Isn't it a well-known disinformation tactic that if a person's
work or info cannot be discredited, then the person must be?

Now that Karl's been labeled and smeared and derided and
"caught with his pants down" and had his character
assassinated here, all I want to know is this:

SPECIFICALLY what, if anything, is suspect about
the information and conclusions contained in
 http://www.karlschwarz.com/02-02-05_Schwarz.pdf ????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
(In it, Karl shows that the jet engine and other aircraft
parts, which show up in photos of Pentagon wreckage, did
not come from a 757)