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Response to presidential Karl Schawz's interview. Can listen to it at
 http://www.stratia.com/media/audio/stratia-06-02-2005.asx
This is was the first time I had heard presidential candidate Karl Schwarz in a pre-recorded audio interview for stratia.com. I admire Mr. Schwarz enuciating some of his goals if he became president. I will focus on the two areas which caused apprhension in me. Of course, in just one interview it would be impossible for Mr. Scharwz to discuss all of the potential and actual goals if he became president. Mr. Schwarz has stated the goal of this sdministration or the "system" is to wage war for thiry years to obtain energy supplies. He has stated he wants to clean up the corruption in our government and that both houses know he is fully armed. He states he wants to bring those responsible for 911 to justice. He paints himself as a moderate, not on the far-left or far-right. Taken at face value this is good.

There are two issues, however, which Mr. Schawrz enunciates as goals if he became president which have the potential to lead to war and conflict. One is his goal as president of pulling troops out of Iraq and positioning them in Palestine. The interviewer asks for what purpose. Mr. Schwarz stated to present attacks for IDF's against Palestinans. As Mr. Shwarz is aware because Israel has a military and the Palestinans don't there has likely been a higher percentage of Palestinian deaths. I have seen pictures of average Palestinians such as children, women, and old men blown to pieces and burned. Their dwellings bulldozed over. The Palestian terrorists, even without a military, are resourceful and there have been heavy periods of Palestinian homicide bombing where scores and scores of Israel civilians are blown to smithereens. It's a tit for tat thing. As you are aware a partial wall has been built to minimize the possibility of Palestinian terrorists entering Israel.

You've stated the goal would be for American forces to help the Palestinians create a Palestinian state and if any IDF's crossed over they would be shot. My concern Mr. Schwarz is there may be an ulterior motive. You've mentioned your anti-Zionist and I will not go into the history of the Zionist Movement other than to say it was created in the 19th century in light of the nearly two thousand years of persecution, exile, ghettoization, efforts at forced Christian conversion, and the realization of Europe's Jews they would never be accepted in Christian Europe. The Holocausr put into emergency mode the necessity for a national Jewish Homeland. Some Palestinians were displaced but almost every country on earth, including Europe as old as it is, was created by immigrants. The America's were both founded on European genocide to an extent. The genocide of most North American Natives by the English, the genocide of the Atecs and Incas by the spanierds. America also had its Japenese American citizen detention camps.

The reason Israel will not accept the return of millions of Palestinians to Israel is it would destroy the Israel as a Jewish homeland. Now to your second goal which in light of what I just presented reveals a double standard. As we are both aware latins have overtaken African-Americans as the largest minority and they keep streaming in. There are also many other ethnic groups in America, inclusing Arabs, Africans, and about anywhere else you can thing from. Indeed, foreign investors such as the Saudies have bought billions woth of real estate in America. If trends continue European-American will be a minority in the U.S. in less than a 100 years. Quite a difference from our founding fathers and over the next couple hundred years. But as a resut of globalization and Americans not being willing to fill certain jobs there has been a demand for these immigrants, either as cheap labor or as skilled professions. The question is how will this ultimately play out? Will it lead to a balkaniation or will it lead to a Nazi type regime. Is it somehow both can be averted?

Your proposal to assist the U.S. border patrol by augmenting it with the National Guard would certainly lead to many more deaths of illgals trying to cross the Mexican border. would this be enough to dissuade many Mexicans and Central Americans from trying to cross the border. If the National Guard was a permanent presence and those who did manage to cross the border were immediately deported, then yes I think it would. However, we have to consider what the consequeses would be, both domestically and with Mexico, Central America, and the rest of the world. Essentially the border would become like the Berlin Wall and very few people made it across the Berlin Wall.

As mentioned earllier, Latins constitute the largest minority in the U.S. Many have family members who are tring to cross to reach them. I don't think this policy would go ever well with Latin American citiens or with Mexico. It would strain tensions between the two countries. It would also likely make it more difficuly and even more hazardous than it currently is fot American tourists to visit Mexico. I don't know if NAFTA is still in effect but it may compromise that. Of course, there are many who thing NAFTA was a bad idea and others who don't.

If the possible goal of stationing American troops in Palestine to help them form their own land this raises the specter of an ulterior motive. For example, American forign policy encourages and facilitates Palestinian terrorist to commit suicide bombing in israel while preventing the IDF from inavding the Palestinian occupied terrotories to root out terrorists based on their intelligence. If the secret goal of your administration would be the destruction of Israel I think this would be extremely dangerous. Israel has received much American aid (and supported by many Christians) and it has sophisticated military technology and reportedly nuclear weapons. If you're like that character from the movie the Dead Zone Greg Stillson you may get your wish.

What I find dumbfounding is you were hardly asked any touch questions in the strateria interview. Literally, it was free airtime for you. As mindless as the major media is I fear the same thing. You talk about this being a fistfight and while that may be true in some circles you may find a cakewalk.
So far, criticism of you have been minimal. You remain essentially unvarnished as far as the 911 truth seeking movement is concerned.

Thank you sir for having the courage to go beyond 911 and enunciate what some of your policies would be if you became president. I can only hope others have concerns as I do, and can look beyond their nose which is 911 truth seeking movement and exercise a critical mind.

Black Rain

Critical Thinking 12.Jun.2005 22:51

FiFi

The tact of "Black Rain" is to be commended and it is a nice counterpoint to some of the discussions on this site during the week of June 2 through 12. I would like to round out some of the exegitic thinking being set forth by this writer.

Black Rain writes, " I will focus on the two areas which caused apprhension (SIC) in me. Of course, in just one interview it would be impossible for Mr. Scharwz to discuss all of the potential and actual goals if he became president. Mr. Schwarz has stated the goal of this administration or the "system" is to wage war for thiry years to obtain energy supplies. He has stated he wants to clean up the corruption in our government and that both houses know he is fully armed. He states he wants to bring those responsible for 911 to justice. He paints himself as a moderate, not on the far-left or far-right. Taken at face value this is good."
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FiFI concurs and adds this thought,"Sometimes we learn far more of what a person intends by THEIR use of language that the ideas it contains. Schwarz is fond of using rather non-moderate terms like, "nuclear," "fully armed," "kick them out," "destroy those bastards." While the goal of pursuing justice and exposing the deceits of those in power is admirable, it becomes much less so, if we borrow their methods and thought processes. Intolerance, impatience and thoughtless action whether employed by us or them are still destructive to freedom, libery and justice for all." Mr. Schwarz doesn't sound moderate at all.
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Black Rain:"There are two issues, however, which Mr. Schawrz enunciates as goals if he became president which have the potential to lead to war and conflict. One is his goal as president of pulling troops out of Iraq and positioning them in Palestine. The interviewer asks for what purpose. Mr. Schwarz stated to present attacks for IDF's against Palestinans. As Mr. Shwarz is aware because Israel has a military and the Palestinans don't there has likely been a higher percentage of Palestinian deaths. I have seen pictures of average Palestinians such as children, women, and old men blown to pieces and burned. Their dwellings bulldozed over. The Palestian terrorists, even without a military, are resourceful and there have been heavy periods of Palestinian homicide bombing where scores and scores of Israel civilians are blown to smithereens. It's a tit for tat thing. As you are aware a partial wall has been built to minimize the possibility of Palestinian terrorists entering Israel. "
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FiFi writes,"Just because one has soldiers, doesn't mean that they have to be FIGHTING in order to justify their name. There is no way that putting our soldiers to guard the Palestinians won't exacerbate this situation. Has this man never heard of diplomacy? Let's talk about cutting down on US support for Israel that becomes bombs and opening a dialogue with the Palestinians about better leadership. Ultimately, these two sides have to live with each other. They and they alone can create peace. America needs to reevaluate a "friend" that takes our money and uses it to persecute their neighbors and spy on us. This is not to say that Israel should be abandoned, but rather that we need to use clout where necessary. Additionally, we need to get ALL FOREIGN COUNTRIES OUT OF OUR POLITICS. It is wildly inappropriate for any representative of Americans to be accepting money from foreign countries. HERE'S A WILD IDEA: LET'S STOP INTERFERING IN ALL OTHER COUNTRY'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND ADHERE TO OUR OWN CONSTITUTIONAL ADMONITIONS ON THIS TOPIC?????"
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BLACK RAIN:"You've stated the goal would be for American forces to help the Palestinians create a Palestinian state and if any IDF's crossed over they would be shot. My concern Mr. Schwarz is there may be an ulterior motive. You've mentioned your anti-Zionist and I will not go into the history of the Zionist Movement other than to say it was created in the 19th century in light of the nearly two thousand years of persecution, exile, ghettoization, efforts at forced Christian conversion, and the realization of Europe's Jews they would never be accepted in Christian Europe. The Holocausr put into emergency mode the necessity for a national Jewish Homeland. Some Palestinians were displaced but almost every country on earth, including Europe as old as it is, was created by immigrants. The America's were both founded on European genocide to an extent. The genocide of most North American Natives by the English, the genocide of the Atecs and Incas by the spanierds. America also had its Japenese American citizen detention camps."

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FIFI cannot add to or improve that statement.
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BLACK RAIN: "The reason Israel will not accept the return of millions of Palestinians to Israel is it would destroy the Israel as a Jewish homeland. Now to your second goal which in light of what I just presented reveals a double standard. As we are both aware latins have overtaken African-Americans as the largest minority and they keep streaming in. There are also many other ethnic groups in America, inclusing Arabs, Africans, and about anywhere else you can thing from. Indeed, foreign investors such as the Saudies have bought billions woth of real estate in America. If trends continue European-American will be a minority in the U.S. in less than a 100 years. Quite a difference from our founding fathers and over the next couple hundred years. But as a resut of globalization and Americans not being willing to fill certain jobs there has been a demand for these immigrants, either as cheap labor or as skilled professions. The question is how will this ultimately play out? Will it lead to a balkaniation or will it lead to a Nazi type regime. Is it somehow both can be averted?"
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FIFI would like to make a point here. Fifi lives near major borders and sees how illegal immigrants are used to keep wages down for everybody, increase poverty etc. The fact is that the current administration and the two prior ones used the whole NAFTA mess as a tool to reduce wages in this country and destroy our manufacturing base. This is errant stupidity driven by nothing other than GREED. Despite what Michael Douglas said in Wall Street, the fact is that GREED HAS CREATED MOST OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE NOW FACE. In America today, if China wanted to really flex her might, all she would have to do is to stop shipping goods, parts and sub-assemblies. Most of our industry would shut down. HOW STUPID IS THIS? NAFTA FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT READ IT, actually has a clause that GUARRANTEES profits to companies that move to Mexico. They can sue our government if they lose money and WE THE TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO PAY. NAFTA was all about cutting wages and destroying Mexico's internal industry in order to be begin creating a global corporate-ruled governance system. Don't believe FIFI, read the laws yourselves. Study the immigration patterns before NAFTA and after. NAFTA has caused tremendous hardships in Mexico and forced immigrants across the border. They take jobs, not that Americans aren't willing to do, but that Americans refuse to do for the poverty-level wages, complete disregard of OSHA laws and a million other things that Fifi could cite. FiFi knows that Karl doesn't get economics, so she explained it to you and HIM.
The solution is to get rid of NAFTA, to force American employers to pay fair wages to anyone who works for them and to respect American labor laws. This will not cause the huge 'inflationary bump" that morons like Greenspan suggest. It will bring wages in line with actual inflation and workers will begin to be able to make money sufficient to survive on....workers won't get hurt and then become drains on our health care system to enable some schmuck to make enough for another skiing trip or European vacation.
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Black Rain: "Your proposal to assist the U.S. border patrol by augmenting it with the National Guard would certainly lead to many more deaths of illgals trying to cross the Mexican border. would this be enough to dissuade many Mexicans and Central Americans from trying to cross the border. If the National Guard was a permanent presence and those who did manage to cross the border were immediately deported, then yes I think it would. However, we have to consider what the consequeses would be, both domestically and with Mexico, Central America, and the rest of the world. Essentially the border would become like the Berlin Wall and very few people made it across the Berlin Wall. "
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FiFi agrees and thinks that Karl Schwarz's proposal is a reflection of his insular upbringing and not very well concealed racism. She also thinks that it would be costly, difficult to implement and sounds like something that the simplistic minds of Bush or Cheney would conceive.
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As mentioned earllier, Latins constitute the largest minority in the U.S. Many have family members who are tring to cross to reach them. I don't think this policy would go ever well with Latin American citiens or with Mexico. It would strain tensions between the two countries. It would also likely make it more difficuly and even more hazardous than it currently is fot American tourists to visit Mexico. I don't know if NAFTA is still in effect but it may compromise that. Of course, there are many who thing NAFTA was a bad idea and others who don't.
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FiFi: Since NAFTA, blue collar wages have dropped 30 percent in this country, the manufacturing industry has been destroyed and our security is in the hands of the foreign factories that produce the spare parts. Plus, we are guarranteeing people that don't make money with moving their factories to Mexico that we will supply the profits. Does FiFi need to spell this out????? This was a George H.W. Bush Sr. idea, BTW. If you go to Mexico, open a factory and claim that you lost money, you can sue the US government, make a mint and move on without having improved anyone's life. It is a fraud. READ THE NAFTA law. It is a joke. Look at the statistics. If we got rid of NAFTA, leveled the wage bases, enforced anti-pollution laws on both sides of the border and helped Mexico to rebuild its industries and then rebuilt our manufacturing base, we would see a huge drop in poverty, a drop in illegal immigration and other benefits. FiFi has seen the numbers and she knows what it looked like before we meddled.
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Black Rain."If the possible goal of stationing American troops in Palestine to help them form their own land this raises the specter of an ulterior motive. For example, American forign policy encourages and facilitates Palestinian terrorist to commit suicide bombing in israel while preventing the IDF from inavding the Palestinian occupied terrotories to root out terrorists based on their intelligence. If the secret goal of your administration would be the destruction of Israel I think this would be extremely dangerous. Israel has received much American aid (and supported by many Christians) and it has sophisticated military technology and reportedly nuclear weapons. If you're like that character from the movie the Dead Zone Greg Stillson you may get your wish."
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FiFi: AMEN
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BLACK RAIN:"What I find dumbfounding is you were hardly asked any touch questions in the strateria interview. Literally, it was free airtime for you. As mindless as the major media is I fear the same thing. You talk about this being a fistfight and while that may be true in some circles you may find a cakewalk.
So far, criticism of you have been minimal. You remain essentially unvarnished as far as the 911 truth seeking movement is concerned. "
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FiFi thinks that maybe if the truth movement insisted on truth from everyone as part of reinventing our government, then maybe we could vet anyone who wants to run and ensure that good people run. WE ARE THE PEOPLE. WE NEED TO ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND NOT WAIT FOR SOME STOOGE ON TELEVISION TO DO IT. WE NEED TO NOT TOLERATE LIARS IN OUR MIDST. Sure, we all forget things or mistake facts, sometimes we don't remember well, but the fact is that we have to begin insisting on the truth from ourselves, from our compatriots and from our elected officials.
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Thank you sir for having the courage to go beyond 911 and enunciate what some of your policies would be if you became president. I can only hope others have concerns as I do, and can look beyond their nose which is 911 truth seeking movement and exercise a critical mind.

Black Rain

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FIFI: Could not have said it better myself.

Can not listen to this 29.Mar.2007 16:25

Rachel Chamberlain referendum_canada@yahoo.ca

 http://www.stratia.com/media/audio/stratia-06-02-2005.asx
This link does not seem to work.
Could you please help if you have this interview available?

Thank you !