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Breaking:! ABC's Jim Lampley calls Election 2004 theft 'the biggest crime in the history'

The Biggest Story of Our Lives
May 10, 2005
Huffington Post

The Biggest Story of Our Lives
At 5:00 p.m. Eastern time on Election Day, I checked the sportsbook odds in Las Vegas and via the offshore bookmakers to see the odds as of that moment on the Presidential election. John Kerry was a two-to-one favorite. You can look it up.

People who have lived in the sports world as I have, bettors in particular, have a feel for what I am about to say about this: these people are extremely scientific in their assessments. These people understand which information to trust and which indicators to consult in determining where to place a dividing line to influence bets, and they are not in the business of being completely wrong. Oddsmakers consulted exit polling and knew what it meant and acknowledged in their oddsmaking at that moment that John Kerry was winning the election.

And he most certainly was, at least if the votes had been fairly and legally counted. What happened instead was the biggest crime in the history of the nation, and the collective media silence which has followed is the greatest fourth-estate failure ever on our soil.



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That's it? 10.May.2005 15:52


A sportscaster decides that because Bush beat the Vegas bookies' line, there's a story here?

Keen grasp of the obvious 10.May.2005 16:02

James Crackcorn, Esq.

A sportscaster decides that because Bush beat the Vegas bookies' line, there's a story here?

An American decides that because Bush stole the election there's a story here. The difference between your story and mine is if you repeat yours 100 million times it's an oft-told story. If you repeat mine 100 million times it throws the fucker out of office.

Sorry to say nay to your naysaying and all, but if the best you can do is act like a prick, don't.

There's a story 10.May.2005 16:17

I gave up a long time ago

You better believe there's a story here. Just no taker's cause there all CHICKENSHIT

april fools in may 10.May.2005 16:42

eyes closed tight

he is rebutted by the reynolds wrap king byron york, who wrote the book "vast left-wing conspiracy", within the same pages...


check it out, left and right on one site, cool, just like tv...keeping you one step further from what you want, I see John Cusack writes about hunter thompson's funeral:


and here we see ellen degeneres gettin' in the game on wild horses:


still can't find anything on the fallujah massacre though, we have dahr jamail for that:

Independent journalist Dahr Jamail:"Life in Falluja is a horror story"

Bush won and had foreknowledge about 9/11 too, get over it

Is that right? 10.May.2005 18:03


Had Mr. Lampley heard any of Dr. David Ray Griffin's lecture a few weeks ago, he may more correctly say that the stolen election was the second biggest crime in Amerca.....after the 9/11 attacks conducted with the help of our national leaders.

Like the Agent in The Matrix, what bother's me the most... 10.May.2005 18:47


It's the smell. I have to walk the streets every day among these cerebral zombies who accept the bullshit of the last two elections and the corporate media's rancorous pussy slime as true. These humans are a parasite upon the God-given intelligence of mankind, numbing our senses with pathetic overtones of tabloid journalism.

Kill all the idiots. God is smart and he will know his own. Forgive them not, because they know not what they do. They squander the gift of intelligence and freedom and embrace the predictable life of intellectual incarceration. Oblivion becomes them all, the children of the damned.

preaching to the converted is not enough 11.May.2005 06:39


This sportcaster does not give proper citations, but it most likely sounds like the reason he believes that the election was faked is that the meme from  http://www.uscountvotes.org/ has reached him. Like any meme, when spreading among people whose epistemology (way of knowing things) is something like "i know it because i know it and i believe that the person i heard it from is reliable anyway so believe me because it's true" risks losing some of its infectivity unless it gets boosted. ;) So here's a boost.

BTW, this also should remind us that preaching to the converted is not enough - when memes like this start getting to sportcasters, this is a chance to develop some outreach and say, "hey, i think you're more or less right, can i help by providing some references?"


Press Release:

Monday, January 31, 2005

Prominent Statisticians Refute 'Explanation' of 2004 U.S. Exit Poll Discrepancies in New Edison/Mitofsky Report and Urge Investigation of U.S. Presidential Election Results

President Bush won November's election by 2.5% yet exit polls showed Kerry leading by 3%. Which was correct?

"There are statistical indications that a systematic, nationwide shift of 5.5% of the vote may have occurred, and that we'll never get to the bottom of this, unless we gather the data we need for mathematical analysis and open, robust scientific debate.", says Bruce O'Dell, USCountVotes' Vice President.

The study, "Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report," was co-authored by a diverse group of professors and academicians specializing in statistics and mathematics affiliated with University of Notre Dame, Unversity of Pennsylvania, University of Utah, Cornell University, University of Wisconsin, Southern Methodist University, Case Western Reserve University and Temple University. Their study does not support claims made by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International that exit poll errors were to blame for the unprecedented 5.5% discrepancy between exit polls and official 2004 election results.

According to this analysis by a group of senior statisticians, the new data just released by the exit-pollsters shows that the possibility that the overall vote count was substantially corrupted must be taken seriously. "Now we have statistical evidence that these reports were the tip of a national iceberg. The hypothesis that the discrepancy between the exit polls and election results is due to errors in the official election tally is a coherent theory that must be explored," said statistician Josh Mitteldorf.

Their paper titled "Response to Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 Report" notes that the Edison/Mitofsky report offers no evidence to support their conclusion that Kerry voters "participated in the exit polls at a higher rate than Bush voters". In fact, the data provided in the Edison/Mitofsky report suggests that the opposite may have been true: Bush strongholds had slightly higher response rates than Kerry strongholds.

The statisticians go on to note that precincts with hand-counted paper ballots showed no statistical discrepancy between the exit polls and the official results, but for other voting technologies, the overall discrepancy was far larger than the polls' margin of error. The pollsters at Edison/Mitofsky agreed that their 2004 exit polls, for

whatever reason, had the poorest accuracy in at least twenty years.

USCountVotes, a nonprofit, non-partisan Utah corporation was founded in December 2004. Its mission is to create and analyze a database containing precinct-level election results for the entire United States; to do a thorough mathematical analysis of the 2004 election results; and to fully investigate the 2004 Presidential election results.

USCountVotes actively seeks volunteers and accepts donations to help make this unprecedented civic project a reality - visit www.uscountvotes.org for further information.

Full report -  http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/USCountVotes_Re_Mitofsky-Edison.pdf

US count votes website -  http://www.uscountvotes.org/

e.g. Thursday, 31 March 2005 - 'More than 27,000 reports of irregularities in the 2004 election were submitted to the independent "Election Incident Reporting System"; thousands more were reported to other organizations.'

wikipedia page is extremely thorough 11.May.2005 07:15


The consensus opinion on the exit poll evidence that the 2004 presidential election was a fraud like in any tinpot dictatorship is on the wikipedia (of course):


The USCountVotes project "National Election Data Public Archive Project" is a plan with the goal:
"of providing all candidates in the 2006 elections with timely and accurate notification of potential vote counting errors. For the first time in US history candidates may be able to reliably identify vote counting errors, with sufficient time to challenge the results."


Bookies Know Best 11.May.2005 13:30


Handicapping sporting events combines two skills - knowledge of the sport you're handicapping and the psychology of bettors. In an election, the voters' psychology *is* the equivalent of the athletes' skill.

It's possible for a pitcher to hurt his arm on the first pitch of the game, or a star quarterback or running back to be injured in the first series. This can change a game radically. However, unless there's widespread one-way lying to exit pollsters, these exteranalities will NOT happen unless something is done to suppress votes, whether it's using police to keep people away from the polls, challenging voter registrations in your opponents' precincts, making it logistically difficult or impossible for your opponents to vote (like what happened in many heavily Democratic precincts in Ohio due to a lack of voting machines), or just stopping the count due to technicalities (Florida 2000, and what the Republicans tried in the 2004 Washington gubernatorial race).

Lampley is just one of many who've taken the red pill. When things go wildly different from expectations in a one-sided way, people know a fix is in. Even people with no knowledge of the gambling community smelled something rotten when Ed Cicotte and Lefty Williams forgot how to pitch in the 1919 World Series. The equivalent is people in Ohio forgetting to vote, particularly in heavily Democratic precincts.