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MY MOM IS STUNNED

Mom is at a loss for words after watching David Ray Griffin's presentation on C-Span2 this morning.
I've been trying to drop a few hints about the 911 truth movement to my Mom now for quite a while. I called her this morning and told her to turn on C-Span2 to see author David ray Griffin talk about his new book "The 911 Commission: Omissions and Distortions". Quite frankly, she thought my "conspiracy theories" were a load of BS until she saw this amazingly clear and concise analysis. I called her back later and asked what she thought about it all. "It's wild" was all she could say at first. I pressed her a bit and she simply admitted "I'M STUNNED'. Let me tell you, it's damned hard to stun my Mom about anything. She's a hard-headed Taurean whose feet are planted firmly on Mother Earth. If my Mom, middle class, a straight citizen in her 70's is stunned about all this, there may actually be some light at the end of this murky tunnel.

scoffs 30.Apr.2005 20:17

gk

I know. My family scoffs at me about the conspiracy of 9-11. None of us saw this cable show nor have read the book. How real does it all seem now?

My Mom stunned too 30.Apr.2005 20:50

Johny Revolution

I lucked in to catching this unambiguous account of what happened on 9-11 and got my 70 year old Swedish mom to listen in. She too was blown away by Mr. Griffins lecture. It was rather sad to see the reaction on my mothers face when she realized that the government she has faithfully supported for 50 years was capable of such heinous treachery. Myself, being a forest activist for many years, I have never doubted that the Bush corporate elitists and their co-conspirators in the Pentagon were guilty of not only allowing 9-11 to happen, but of actually orchestrating the entire thing. Eisenhower warned, in his last days, of the dangers of the military industrial complex and how if they became too influential and entrenched in our economy that dire consequences would take place. "President Cheney" new that in order for the neo-cons to get away with 9-11, they would have to secure the confidence of not only the pentagon, but also the mainstream press. Let's look at this one crucial area of the entire story. First of all, who owns CBS? Well coincidentally Westinghouse does, a company that has multi million dollar contracts with guess who, the Pentagon. Next, who owns NBC? I'll be darn, NBC is owned by General Electric, who also annually is awarded huge defense contracts. Naturally with these two big players involved if they decided to not "investigate" aggressively the evidence, all the other corporate media would most likely follow along not wanting to look anti-American. Cheney is definetly brilliant,he knew the American mainstream press was gutless and lazy and therefore had nothing to worry about. Combine the potential profits from a perpetual war on terror and the ever increasing dilemna of oil shortages, and one can see how a catastrophic event like 9-11 would be most advantageous for the American elitists. These evil capitalists thrive on fearmongering and chaos.9-11 brought both of these scenarios to the forefront of our society and the Bushites are reaping the rewards as we speak.I believe the only way out of this insanity is to connect ourselves(all the anti-capitalists} here in the States and stage mass demonstrations on the Capitol demanding a change in government such as what has happened in the Ukraine and Krygystan recently. We can only talk and scholastically debate so much. We the People need, now more than ever, to assert our power in the streets.

Shame on US: 911 as most readers know 30.Apr.2005 21:33

dude

rough and ready notes:

911 Commission report omissions and distortion

Two examples of 911 foreknowledge:

Shippers[out of the ken star ensemble] received 911 time and place attack from FBI which ascroft refuses repeated tele-communication.

Put options on American , United Airlines , and Morgan Stanely.

Failed to stop attack and multiple reasons given:

No terminations.

FAA and Military gives No scramble.

911 Commission report omissions and distortion

Pentagon undefended while surrounded by three squadrons of jets, using the best radar system,
Ringed by antimissile batteries. Thus 77 hitting the pentagon allowed attack.

Trajectory not reasonably explained. Damage maybe inconsistent, video availability suppression
Twin tower collapse un-likely. Feb Madrid 2005, Pittsburgh sept.
Material analysis suppressed. Pancake collapse. Interior columns

Where was the president and the response requires some explanation. President not protected from surprise attack..


Bedrails in the past. National security strategy of the bush doctrine. Believes or will believe will become a challenge to US interest can be attacked.

Funding increased for pentagon projects as a consequence of 911.

What should religious folks do?

1 learn and report.
2. Create new means of communication opposing domination.
3 Muli-religious coalition
4 NGO alliances to oppose domination
David Ray Griffin
David Ray Griffin
An effort by skull and Bones
An effort by skull and Bones
Who are you going to call?
Who are you going to call?

Great Article from Asia Times 30.Apr.2005 22:02

(Pepe Escobar-AT)


article a year old 30.Apr.2005 23:27

gk

The Asia Times article is the best I've read in its concise, direct language, but it is a YEAR old! I want something recent before I refer it on.

... 01.May.2005 02:00

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Was this the speech y'all are talking about?

 http://www.yourbbsucks.com/davidraygriffin_cspan.mp3

video? 01.May.2005 02:37

watcher

Does anyone have a link to video of the show?

(11 was the conspiracy of American Zionists and the Mossad 01.May.2005 05:27

researcher

Too many Americans are too busy trying to make ends meet, than to question 911. Great that C Span is actually letting David Griffin air the evidence. The major media is almost totally owned by Zionists, and the're not going to air the discrepancies. Please allow me to repost a commentary, with the comments. Especially the last few comments. A NYC fireman knows he heard bombs going off, in the towers. If anyone is to be trusted, I trust people who are willing to lay down their lives to save others!!! Evidence points to 911 was executed by Mossad, with High governmental Pro-Zionist help! author: researcher The Mossad carried out 911, with high governmental Pro Zionist help and Cover-up! LEASE take the time to read this in its entirety!! For years I believed the Official version of 911, including the Arab hijackers but now I believe the Arab hijackers were Mossad imposters, and they had Zionist high governmental help. Mossad attacked on 911 with U.S. ProZionist Official Help 15.Apr.2005 04:57 ,Zionists are the enemy. Not all Jews, especially the relatives of those killed in the 911 attack!!! A few days ago www.worldnetdaily.com Aaron Klein reports that EU is calling Hamas, "freedom fighters."Mr. Sharon is reacting to this negative attention and U.S. pressure by trying to create a Palestinian state in Gaza, so that the Zionist" war on terrorism," war on Israelis neighbors, will continue, not withdraw, as there are so many rumors The US wants to pull out troops from Iraq. He's trying to buy time to get a US draft going, so the US will effectively help fight Iran. Israel's had no reservations in sacrificing its own citizens in the past, the Israelis who dressed as Arabs not only killed British rulers, but also Israeli citizens. Israel also killed American allies in their attack on the U.S. Liberty. Sharon thinks he can buy off the settlers with compensation, as Israel did with the survivors of the Liberty murders. Congress never investigated the case, nor demanded further explanation from Israel, despite the fact that Israelis have admitted to trying to sink the ship. Given the fact that "terrorist" was coined by the British press to refer to the Israelis who dressed up as Arabs and bombed the King David hotel and given the long history of Mossad and Zionists even turning against their own allies (US Liberty) for the sake of the Israeli State I can understand Hamas saying they're freedom fighters, and that Israeli carried out 911. Two books http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/Pastore_Investigation_of_%209-11/chapter_2--dancing_Israelis.htm pieces the puzzle together, by showing how there were active Mossad agents in this country then, and many false flag operations. Other 200 Mossad agents were found with explosives in the Mexican Parliament, some with videos of the Sears Towers, some with nuclear U.S. Power plant plans, some posing as art students checking out Defense buildings. Other glaring in discrepancies of the official 911 version ::Attars' passport was stolen and found blocks away from the Towers, the extremely impossible behavior of the "doubles in Florida, and Las Vegas, the demolition of building 7 by its owner Silverstein, the warnings to Odgio and only three deaths of Israelis in the disaster, one of which Daniel Levin , a member of Israel's top commando team, as a cover to throw suspicion away from Israel,(CNN doesn't have his name on thier list of those killed in the attack) shot with a gun brought through Logan airport owned by Israeli businessmen. The Pentagon was hit (probably a missile, (see for yourself the photographs in this book and on other 911 sites), to cover Pentagon involvement, no stand down action, the fact FEMA was in NY the night before, the put options showing somebody knew in Israel. And http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/AntichristConspiracyHTML.htm explains how infiltrated the government is with pro Zionist leaders. These 200 found Israeli Mossad agents were deported with the help of Michael Chertoff, an American with dual citizenship, born to first stweerdas of El Al. Seven of the so called highjackers from Saudi Arabia are alive. Someone else was doing this, someone who knew about remote control, and these planes were guided to their targets. Then the trade center was demolished with controlled demolitions and the evidence carted off pdq to do away with the evidence, by another Israeli company. Other cases lead support, the imprisonment of Lt. Veerland, the Navy Lt who wrote down most of the attack sites three weeks before it happened, stating he didn't think Bin Laden was responsible, but "our brothers in faith." He noted the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Sears Towers?, Malaysia, Haidar among others. Given the sex scandal of child abuse in Washington, many Congressmen and many higher ups in the administration, might have traded their votes and loyalties out of fear of blackmail. This even included the former President Bush. And how do you explain their perversion to visit Bohemian Grove and go through rituals like "The cremation of care"? Donning hoods and robes the elite jetsetters burn a body to throw away their cares before a tall Owl Statute. What about Trance Formation in America? All fiction? All this was very convenient for Plans already under way to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. By duping Americans into fighting Moslems the Washington heads now have a green light to achieve Full Spectrum Dominance = World Control. Zionists and Jesuits have entered into a plan to make Jerusalem the city of the earthly ruler, and Zionists may yet even double cross American interests by creating another financial depression through the manipulation of the privately owned Federal reserve banks who pay for the printing of money and then lend it back to the U.S. and other governments, thereby driving up the national debt, and through calling in foreign debtors to demand collateral, Western lands, signed by President Nixon)or carry out attacks to get American Jews to move back to Israel and having the President imitate martial law in this land. They've placed the expansion of the State of Israel higher that the religion they profess. History shows the Mossad will kill innocent people, even their own. The recent Tsunami may have prematurely started with a nuclear device, thereby getting rid of millions of their enemies, even Veerland's note mentions Malaysia.( see Joe Vialis) Veerland is now locked up in solitary confinement for child prostitution charges in Colorado and his interview notes says he knows some people who knew George Bush personally. (KNEW?) Knowing Ariel Sharon blocked the escape of thousands in a massacre in the state of Israeli's interest, it's not impossible he'd ok the Mossad to act by deception to draw America in to fight Israel's greatest enemies( as it did in WW1. and WW2) We're now being told by him something has to be done about Iran. Latest I've read, a business man, Sarfraz Haidar was killed for selling 6 Russian KH-55 cruise missiles to Iran. These missiles are said to have a nuclear 200 killoton warhead and can travel 3000 kilometers. about Zionist complicity: Zim International vacates WTCs 15.Apr.2005 Another point that has slipped off the collective 'map' of 9-11 is that the shipper/trader organization, Zim International, broke its lease in the days before 9-11. It vacated rather quickly. What is interesting about Zim International is that it is a corporation half owned by the Israeli Government. Another point that is interesting is that despite the cover being "rent was high," why loose $40,000 right then and there for breaking your lease? And is money really all that important when you are half owned by a subsidy-based state like the State of Israel? EIGHT OTHER ZIONIST/MOSSAD SIGNS OF THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF STRIKES OF 9-11 just grouping the posts: more here: 1. ISRAELIS were 9-11 short sale stock buyers, betting on WTC terror strikes, story killed... 00:40 Apr-11 (19 comments) http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/04/315296.shtml 2. Israel Honors Lavon Affair Terrorists Who Attacked U.S. in '54, attempted to blame "Arabs" 21:20 Apr-03 (2 comments) http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/04/314824.shtml 3. 9-11 False Flag Operation author: Vicky Link to a video This is a must see video. "9/11 is an _Expression of a Deep and Abiding Crisis in the Capitalist World Order: 9/11 a CIA- MOSSAD False Flag Operation," by Ralph Schoenman 911 PEOPLE'S INQUIRY SF, 2004, www.globalresearch.ca 18 February 2005 The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SCH502A.html CLICK TO VIEW VIDEO http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/312329.shtml 4. newswire article reposts united states 11.Feb.2005 18:39 9.11 investigation DID ISRAEL ATTACK THE UNITED STATES WITH CHERTOFF'S AID? author: Phillip Yardley It is a little known, but historical fact that Israel has attacked the United States several times. Yet, we now know that our New Homeland Security Chief helped Israel to do so. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310503.shtml 5. newswire article coverage united states 11.Feb.2005 18:24 9.11 investigation NEW HOMELAND SECURITY CHIEF IN ALLIANCE WITH 9-11 TERRORIST author: Dr. David Duke There is hard, factual evidence that Michael Chertoff, the new Homeland Security Chief, has ties with the financiers of 9-11. As incredible as this news may seem, it has now been revealed that the nominee of President Bush for the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, has ties with a man suspected of financing the 911 attacks, Dr. Magdy Elamir. There is also convincing evidence that Chertoff as head of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Justice Department shielded this financier of 911 from prosecution in a terrorist case. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310501.shtml 6. newswire article reposts united states 11.Dec.2004 05:05 9.11 investigation Silverstein admits PRE-RIGGING WTC7 to "pull it" on 9-11; & 1 BLOCK OVER,collects insur.?! author: pink elephant in the room watch Price of false cover story on 9-11 getting bigger and bigger...as it frays thinner and thinner. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305694.shtml 7. newswire article announcements global 10.Nov.2004 06:43 9.11 investigation | media criticism | police / legal Censored Fox News series available: MOSSAD trails/helps[?] false flag terrorists of 9-11 author: repost Fox News Series On Israeli Spying NOW AVAILABLE INSTEAD OF ORIGINALLY CENSORED AFTER 9-11-01. To rewrite history, the 4 part series that aired in December 2001 was even removed from Fox News so-called archives! However, the documentary is still available from another source, below: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/302926.shtml and FASCINATING THAT FOX NEWS EVEN HAD THIS WEBSITE REMOVE CARL CAMERON'S STORY, EH? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.htmll the 1983 marine barracks bombing. They had foreknowledge then too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_Way_of_Deception ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .. Even some Israelis think their own government is in a Conspiracy 19.Apr.2005 00:02 Israel Clears Officer of Killing Journalist Who Had White Flag By Donald Macintyre The Independent UK Friday 15 April 2005 The British government formally protested to Israel after the army officer who opened fire when the film-maker James Miller was shot dead in Gaza two years ago was acquitted of disciplinary charges. The decision by the head of Israel's Southern Command to clear the officer overturned a recommendation by the military advocate general that he should be severely disciplined. Mr. Miller was killed in Rafah in 2003 while walking back to his lodgings displaying a white flag and clearly identifying himself to troops as a journalist. The officer acquitted yesterday has admitted opening fire and a 79-page report by Brigadier-General Avihai Mandelblit, the advocate general, held that the first lieutenant in the Bedouin Desert Reconnaissance Battalion had fired in clear breach of army rules of engagement. Mr. Miller's widow Sophy said the decision "makes a mockery of Israeli claims that they follow due process where IDF soldiers have acted criminally and outside their own rules of engagement". Mr. Miller's family had been bitterly disappointed when they were told at a meeting with General Mandleblit in Tel Aviv last month that the officer would not be prosecuted because of a lack of ballistic evidence proving the bullet which killed Mr. Miller came from the officer's weapon. But they - and British officials - were assured that the advocate general was recommending a stiff disciplinary sentence. Baroness Symons, the Foreign Office minister, has summoned Zvi Heifetz, the Israeli ambassador in London, on Monday to protest at the decision and urge that it be reversed, a message also strongly conveyed in a letter last night by Simon McDonald, the British ambassador in Tel Aviv, in a letter to Shaul Mofaz, Israel's Defence Minister. Yesterday, Baroness Symons said she was "shocked and saddened" by the decision by the Brigadier-General Guy Tzur, the Southern Command chief of staff. The Israeli army said General Tzur decided that under the conditions then - including "frequent terrorist attacks; thick darkness and earlier that same day the soldiers were fired at by anti-tank missiles" - the shooting was "reasonable". The family's lawyers are seeking reversal of the decision. . Mr. Miller, an award-winning documentary maker who had been working on a film about Palestinian children caught up in the conflict, was shot while walking openly with two colleagues to their apartment. They were carrying a white flag with a torch shone on it, their helmets were clearly marked "TV" and they called out that they were British journalists as they approached an armoured personnel carrier to ask permission to leave. Israeli claims of heavy fire between Palestinians and Israeli troops at the time were disproved because an Associated Press cameraman filmed the incident. Mrs. Miller said the family believed there had been no "genuine will" to uncover the truth because the site of the shooting had not been secured for forensic investigation. It was bulldozed three days later and Israeli authorities took 11 weeks to impound the guns involved in Mr. Miller's death for ballistic examination. Web JPost.com JPost.com » Opinion » Article Apr. 19, 2005 3:32 We've lost our way By GERSHON BASKIN On April 10, three Palestinian youths aged 14 were killed by Israeli troops in Rafah. The two sides presented very different reports regarding the circumstances of the killings. Israeli sources reported that the youths were smuggling weapons, that warning shots were fired before they were shot and killed. Palestinian sources reported that they were playing soccer and were shot for no reason. A later Palestinian report stated that they may have been trying to steal surveillance cameras. Regardless of which of the stories is correct, I fail to see why three 14-year-olds were given a death sentence. Beyond the anger of such a senseless and ugly loss of life, I am amazed and distraught about why there was absolutely no discussion of these senseless killings in the Israeli body politic or press. The only part of the story that made the media and political debate was the Palestinian reaction to the killing - the shooting of tens of mortars into Gush Katif and Israel. I am outraged by these youths' killing. Was there no other way to respond? Couldn't the army have arrested them? The boys were only a few hundred meters away - within the soldiers' gun sights and in clear range of the lethal bullets. Couldn't our soldiers have called the Palestinian police to arrest them? Why was there no public outcry over these senseless killings? Do we simply not care about Palestinians who are killed? Have we lost our humanity? As if a script had been prepared and played out, just as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was off to Texas to meet with President George Bush at his Texas ranch, the Palestinians could be accused of breaking the cease-fire. Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) could be described as not doing anything to fulfill his road map commitments - just look how the Palestinians are shooting mortars and Abbas is doing nothing. How convenient for Sharon. How manipulative can we be? Abbas is in trouble. Everyone shares this assessment. On the streets of Palestine, people give him weeks, perhaps months, before he disappears from the scene. His supporter-critics in Palestine say he is not decisive enough, that he should immediately fire all the senior officers who are not implementing his policies - beginning with Musa Arafat, who recently threatened to kill Interior Minister Nasser Yousef, should he come to Gaza. Abu Mazen should have immediately launched a corruption investigation; many people should already be standing trial. They say he should have fired the attorney-general and brought in a more serious senior prosecutor, one with clean hands. They say he should have arrested all the Fatah gunmen who have paraded around the Palestinian cities threatening to use their weapons against the Palestinian Authority. This is all true. There are many other issues that also must be immediately addressed by Abu Mazen. The new political parties law is long overdue. The election law and the shape of the elections must be decided and legislated without delay. The list of what Abbas must do is almost endless. But if he falls, the blame will not lie on his own shoulders only. We must also ask ourselves: What has Israel done to support Abu Mazen and advance his chances of success? Perhaps we should first ask ourselves if Israel is really interested in Abu Mazen's success. I do not have a definitive answer to this question. Unfortunately, I cannot say categorically that Israel is working to ensure Hamas does not replace Abbas and the Palestinian Authority. I cannot say Sharon would not prefer to have the Palestinians run by people who really cannot be viewed as partners. Apr. 19, 2005 3:32 We've lost our way By GERSHON BASKI (Continued from page 1 of 2) Isn't it easier for Israel to continue its expansionist settlement policies when the Palestinians are led by Islamic extremists? What could be a better situation for Israel's right wing than a Palestinian public that democratically elects a Hamas leadership? Imagine a scenario where, after Palestinian legislative elections in July, Hamas emerges the victor. What is the future of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations for the creation of a Palestinian state, according to Bush's vision, when Islamic fundamentalism is on the other side of the negotiating table? There would probably be no negotiations at all. It is completely likely that Hamas would not even participate in negotiations with Israel - at least at anytime in the near future. Some Palestinian analysts state that Hamas is afraid of the upcoming elections because it may win a majority of seats. That would place it in the position of having to confront the question of negotiating with Israel, something it is not yet ready to accept. Wouldn't that be convenient for Sharon? Increasing support for Hamas in Palestine is not only because it is presenting clean hands to a public fed up with corruption. Its members are also asking themselves, every day, what has Abu Mazen and his moderation brought us? There are still 7,500 Palestinians in Israeli prisons. New arrests take place everyday. Jericho and Tulkarm have been turned over to Palestinian control, but Israeli roadblocks continue to surround them. What about the rest of the cities? Every day Palestinians witness more land confiscation, more olive trees uprooted and more walls constructed, putting them in ghettos and enclaves. More Palestinians are being killed, albeit far fewer than this time last year, but there is supposed to be a cessation of violence - at least the violence controlled and directed at the official levels. What has changed in Israel's policies since the election of Abu Mazen? In the eyes of the Palestinian public, nothing. I don't usually believe conspiracy theories. But in light of the reality we witness every day, what else is there left to believe? If Israel really wanted Abbas to succeed, there is a lot that we could be doing to increase his chances. Instead, it seems to me, we are doing almost everything possible to ensure his failure. I do not believe this is acting in the interests of Israel, and I cannot understand our obtuseness. The writer is the Israeli CEO of the Israel/Palestine Center for Research and Information. www.ipci.org From Dr. Pastore's book CHAPTER 20 - FOLLOW THE PHONY TRAIL AND DEDUCTIVE LOGIC REVEALS THE TRUE CULPRITS AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9-11 AND THE WAR ON TERRORISM by: Dr. Albert D. Pastore Phd. LOGICAL CONCLUSION #1: 9-11 WAS CARRIED OUT BY EITHER ONE OF TWO GROUPS. GROUP #1: MUSLIM TERRORISTS seeking to avenge U.S. policies in the Middle East.. OR............................ GROUP #2: ZIONIST TERRORISTS seeking to frame their enemies as a pretext for involving the US in a war against Arab/Muslim states. THERE ARE NO OTHER LOGICAL SUSPECTS OTHER THAN THESE TWO WHICH LEADS US TO... LOGICAL CONCLUSION #2: THE TRUE CULPRITS WISH TO REMAIN UNKNOWN. We know this because Bin Laden strongly denied any involvement in 9-11 and suggested that the Zionists were behind it. (1) It is widely believed throughout the Arab and Muslim world (and even much of Europe) that Israeli and U.S. elements staged 9-11 as a pretext for a war against the Islamic world. The Zionists and the U.S. scoff at this idea and insist that Muslim terrorists carried out 9-11. IN SHORT, GROUP 1 CLAIMS GROUP 2 DID IT, AND GROUP 2 CLAIMS GROUP 1 DID IT. WHICH LEADS US TO... LOGICAL CONCLUSION #3: TO ESCAPE PUNISHMENT FROM AN OUTRAGED USA, THE TRUE CULPRITS WOULD NEED TO PLANT A FALSE TRAIL OF "EVIDENCE" AWAY FROM THEMSELVES AND TOWARDS THE OTHER GROUP. Given that both Group 1 or Group 2 would be in serious trouble if it were discovered to be responsible for 9-11, and given the fact that each group blames the other, we would therefore expect the true culprit to attempt to divert the investigation towards the innocent group and away from itself. This trick is as old as crime itself. As surely as night follows day, a phony evidence trail would had to have surfaced following the 9-11 operation. WHICH LEADS US TO... LOGICAL CONCLUSION #4: IF WE FIND WHAT APPEARS TO BE A FALSE EVIDENCE TRAIL, WE WILL HAVE FOUND THE TRUE CULPRIT. By simply reversing the direction to which the phony trail points towards, we can logically deduce who the true culprits were. Whichever group has phony-looking evidence directed towards it must therefore be the innocent group. Find the phony trail and you will find the guilty party. WHICH LEADS US TO... LOGICAL CONCLUSION #5: THE ONLY TRAIL THAT APPEARS TO BE OF SUSPICIOUS ORIGIN POINTS TOWARDS MUSLIMS. CONSIDER THESE VERY STRANGE PIECES OF "EVIDENCE" THAT SURFACED IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING 9-11. 1. A few weeks before 9-11, Israeli Mossad officials flew to the U.S. and met with leaders of the FBI and CIA. The Mossad claimed that a major terrorist attack was imminent and that the culprits would be Osama Bin Laden and Iraq's Saddam Hussein. They gave no other details.(2) 2. After the attacks, there were widely publicized reports that the government had a tape recording of Bin laden calling his mother just a few days before the attacks and telling her: "Something big is about to happen and you won't be hearing from me for a while." This claim was broadcast repeatedly on every news network and convinced many people that Bin Laden was indeed guilty. Weeks later, CNN corrected itself and revealed that the story turned out to be baseless. Although the story is now UNIVERSALLY repudiated by even the mainstream media, far fewer people ever heard the repudiation than did the original hyped-up claim. (3) 3. Hours after the attacks, investigators received a report of a suspicious car left behind at Boston's Logan Airport by a group of belligerent Arabs. Inside the car, investigators find an Arab language flight manual. (4) HOW CONVENIENT! 4. Investigators then find a suitcase supposedly "forgotten" by Mohammed Atta, "ringleader" of the suicide hijackers (why would someone pack a suitcase for a suicide mission?) Inside the suitcase they find a Koran, a fuel consumption calculator, a suicide note, and more Arab flight manuals. (5) Why would they need a suicide note? Do they need to justify anything to those who find it? HOW CONVENIENT! 5. At the crash site in Pennsylvania, investigators find an incriminating letter written by one of the hijackers. (6) The destruction at the crash site was so complete that the largest piece of human remains found was an 8-inch piece of spine. (7) Yet the letter survived the awesome crash and incineration unscathed. HOW CONVENIENT! 6. Days after the attacks, a slightly burned passport belonging to one of the "Saudi hijackers" is miraculously found just a few blocks away from the rubble of the World Trade Center. (8) HOW CONVENIENT! 7. FBI Director Mueller even admitted that identity thefts were used in connection with 9-11. (9) As many as 7 of the 19 "Arab hijackers" are alive and well and some had reported their passports stolen in 1999. (10) 8. Weeks after 9-11, Anthrax letters killed 5 people. The wording of the letters was designed to implicate Muslims. "Death to America. Death to Israel. Allah is great" It has long since been established that the anthrax came from a US army lab and was not mailed by Muslims. (11) 9. The Zionist run Pentagon claimed to have found a "confession video" from Osama Bin Laden. How convenient that the man who was clever enough to pull off 9-11 would suddenly become so careless and leave a self - incriminating video laying around Afghanistan. Independent translations of the barely audible video later exposed the US translation as "manipulative and inaccurate" (12). Other analyses of the video raises even more questions of fraud and doctoring. 10. It is then revealed that investigators also found a business card belonging to one of the hijackers at the Pennsylvania crash site. On the back of this miraculous business card is a telephone number linking one of the hijackers to the "20th hijacker" Zaccarias Moussaoui. (13) HOW CONVENIENT! 11. Also at the Pennsylvania crash site, another miracle passport belonging to "hijacker pilot" Ziad Jarrah was found. (14) HOW CONVENIENT! Why were these hijackers carrying passports for internal domestic flights anyway? 12. The Friday before the attacks, three loud mouthed, drunken "hijackers" ( Mohammed Atta and the Al-Shehhi brothers) make a memorable scene at a restaurant in Hollywood, Florida. (keep the name Hollywood, Florida in your mind for a moment) The London Telegraph (and many other sources) tells us: "Mohammed Atta, 33, who almost certainly was the Florida-trained pilot who rammed American Airlines Flight 11 into the north tower of the World Trade Centre, his cousin Marwan al-Shehhi, 23, and an Arab believed to be a brother of al-Shehhi, appeared to have been in a bibulous celebratory mood last week. Tony Amos, the manager of Shuckums Oyster Bar and Restaurant in Hollywood (Florida) just north of Miami, was interviewed by the FBI and he and his barman and a waitress all identified Atta and his cousin as some hard drinkers who propped up the bar last Friday. Atta's bill for three hours of vodka drinking came to $48. When he drunkenly disputed the charge, Mr Amos intervened. "Of course I can pay the bill," Atta told him. "I'm an airline pilot." (emphasis added) (15) Devout fundamentalist Muslim "martyrs" drinking vodka for three hours? And notice how "Mohammed Atta" purposely goes out of his way to tell the manager he was "an airline pilot". This is very similar to the way in which he purposely told his flight school instructor he was "leaving for Boston". 13. The night before the attacks, three loud-mouthed "hijackers" (one of them again being the "ringleader" Mohammed Atta) visited a Florida strip club where they again cause a scene and make a deliberate point of telling people about a pending terror attack. They then conveniently "forget" yet another Koran at the bar! CBS News reported on September 14, 2001: "The three men spewed anti-American sentiments in a bar and talked of impending bloodshed the night before the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, a Daytona Beach strip club manager interviewed by the FBI said Thursday." "They were talking about what a bad place America is. They said 'Wait 'til tomorrow. America is going to see bloodshed,"' said John Kap, manager of the Pink Pony and Red Eyed Jack's Sports Bar. Kap said they made the claims to a bartender and a patron. Kap said he told FBI investigators the men in his bar spent $200 to $300 apiece on lap dances and drinks, paying with credit cards. Kap said he gave the FBI credit card receipts, photocopied driver's licenses, a business card left by one man and a copy of the Quran - the sacred book of Islam - that was left at the bar. (16) (emphasis added) This one takes the grand prize! Devout, fundamentalist Muslim "martyrs" not only getting drunk, but fondling naked dancers just hours before they were scheduled to meet with God! These highly skilled secret operatives then jeopardize their mission by drawing attention to themselves while publicly bashing America and boasting about pending bloodshed, to take place the following day? And what on earth were they doing in Florida instead of Boston the eve of 9-11 anyway? Didn't they realize that if either of their two early morning connecting flights (first to Maine, and then to Boston) were a bit delayed the next morning, their whole operation would have been at risk? And finally, they oh-so-conveniently forget their business cards and Koran at the bar! This Mohammed Atta character sure is an absent-minded fellow isn't he? He "loses" his passport in 1999, he "forgets" how to speak German when his flight school instructor tries to make small talk with him (see Chapter 11 ), he "forgets" his suitcase before the 9-11 attacks (or perhaps he remembered at the last moment that he wasn't going to need a suitcase for a suicide mission! ), he "forgets" a Koran in a Florida strip club, and then "forgets" yet another Koran in Boston, and also "forgets" his Arabic language flight manual and "forgets" his fuel consumption calculator! How did this guy ever get to be an electrical engineer? My dear reader- no disrespect intended- but if you can't see through these little stunts as the obvious work of a team of "false flag" imposters, then you are either truly stupid or willfully blind. So who, if not Mohammed Atta and his friends, could these drunken, womanizing, Koran-toting, "Muslims" in Florida actually have been? An excellent May 7, 2002 story written by Christopher Ketcham of Salon Magazine provides a clue. Ketcham writes about the Israeli "art student" spy ring that was uncovered in 2001. In an article entitled "The Israeli Art Student Mystery", Ketcham informs us: "For almost two years, hundreds of young Israelis falsely claiming to be art students haunted federal offices...... No one knows why -- and no one seems to want to find out. "In HOLLYWOOD, (Florida) several students lived at 4220 Sheridan St., just down the block from the 3389 Sheridan St. apartment where terrorist mastermind Mohammed Atta holed up with three other Sept. 11 plotters. Many of the students, the DEA report noted, had backgrounds in Israeli military intelligence and/or electronics surveillance; one was the son of a two-star Israeli general, and another had served as a bodyguard to the head of the Israeli army. (emphasis added) 17 Need I connect these dots for you too, or are you now seeing the picture? How appropriate that these Israeli actors should stage their stunts in a town called "Hollywood"! These are just a few of the highly suspect pieces of "evidence" that have turned up in the wake of 9-11. ON THE OTHER HAND, Nothing resembling such a phony, transparent, and ridiculous trail has been found to point towards Israelis and Zionists. No Jewish skullcaps left behind at the airport, no Jewish Torahs found in "forgotten" suitcases, no six-pointed Stars of David found at crash sites, no mysterious videos of rabbis taking credit for 9-11, no Israeli passports turning up at the WTC or other crash sites, etc BUT THERE DOES EXIST AN ENORMOUS BODY OF REAL EVIDENCE THAT POINTS TO AN ISRAELI CONNECTION TO 9-11 AND OTHER ACTS OF TERROR AGAINST THE USA. WHICH LEADS US TO.. LOGICAL CONCLUSION #6 THE MUSLIMS WERE FRAMED FOR 9-11 BY THE ZIONISTS Zionists and allies within the U.S. government carried out 9-11 and the anthrax mailings. They then planted a phony evidence trail designed to frame Arabs/Muslims. Is there any other logical explanation? Anti-Semitism you say? Then perhaps you prefer to hear it from a Jewish scholar instead. In an article entitled: The Zionist Roots of the War on Terror, Dr. Henry Makow, (inventor of the board game Scruples) writes: "Until recently I accepted Israel's self-image as a beleaguered, peace-loving nation in a sea of blood thirsty Arabs. The idea that this tiny state had imperialist designs seemed ludicrous. But what if, unknown to most people, including Israelis, the world's power elite were using Israel to advance their plan for New World Order?... Israel's image of vulnerability is a ruse. Israel has always planned to become the dominant power in the region, and "invented dangers" in order to dupe its citizens and provoke wars. ...The Mossad's fingerprints are all over 9-11."(emphasis added) (18) According to Abe Foxman's and the ADL's dubious logic, Makow must therefore be a "self-hating" Jew. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- crusader bunnypants link The biggest government conspiracy is to claim that there are no government conspiracies. 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! Why didn't the Secret Service hustle The President out of the classroom after he was told the nation is under attack? Why did Bush stay in Texas on vacation for the month of August and Cheney in Wyoming? Why did Cheney say that everyone in the White House started taking Cipro on September 12 when the first anthrax letter wasn't postmarked until September 18? Why was Cheney running several war games on 9/11 including scenarios where commercial jets were hijacked and flown into buildings? Why did the U.S. Military Stand Down on 9/11? Why didn't jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks? Why did none of the 19 hijackers appear on the passenger lists? Why were the Black Boxes never recovered? Why has the U.S. Government classified evidence linking Israeli Spies to 9/11? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm Evidence points to 9/11 and Mossad 21.Apr.2005 09:44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lazarus MacDonal link The evidence points to Mossad and 9/11/01? It is entirely possible. It is entirely possible that George Bush is an ignoramous. It is entirely possible that Donald Rumsfeld is the Angel of Death. It is entirely possible that the entire U.S. government has slipped the cognitive gears and run completely out of control and insane. It is entirely possible that Karl Rove brought his pedophile ways with him from Utah and spread a discipleship of child sexual torture through out Washington D.C.. It is entirely possible that the U.S. government is corrupt beyond redemption. It is entirely possible that Ariel Sharon is a chunky genocidal dough-boy. It is entirely possible that the U.S. throws way too much money at Israel. It is entirely possible that Condoleeza Rice is Bush's on the side squeeze. But, I would bet that Vlad Putin could whip Ms. Rice in an arm wrestling contest. I would bet that Germany and France would like to see the U.S. and the U.K. go down like a burning kite. I would bet that if push comes to shove, China could kick the U.S.'s ass in a straight up grudge match. But, the evidence presented is more than a mite convoluted. Anybody but... 21.Apr.2005 09:52 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack Straw link Yep. 19 Arab hijackers working for bin Laden did it. No, it was the Mossad. No, it was.... Anybody but the actual perps, the US gov't, working on behalf of the American elite, with the Mossad, ISI (Pakistan's CIA), MI6 and others working as *subcontractors* and being set up as patsies. This account is nothing more than an "alternative legend", in case the main cover-up frays. see http://globalresearch.ca and look at articles by "Chaim Kupferberg" regarding alternative legends. It is entirely within the realm of possibility 21.Apr.2005 11:06 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- question authority link that 19 Arabs were recruited by an organization that represented itself as Al Quada but in reality was the Mossad. It's possible that only four or five of the perps actually knew was was really going to go down. > What has always amazed me about the whole 9/11 deal was how little the government claimed it knew before 9/11 and how fast they knew the names of all 19 of the alleged hijackers after 9/11. > Also if the Mossad wasn't actively involved in 9/11 then it is surely possible they knew it was going to happen and maybe even facilitated it by giving false leads to take the FBI etc away from the actual perps. > The Israeli right wing is the most dangerous group of people in the world today. Israeli as run by them has not been, is not, and never will be a ally of the United States. The history of Israeli treachery towards the U.S. spans back for its entire existance. We should be very wary of them. If ever there is another terrorist attact on the U.S. note the location. If done by Arabs it will be in a place of with a high concentration of Jewish residents. If it's not then my bet is it will have been carried out by the Mossad or rogue factions from Israel. INADEQUATE EXPLANATION 21.Apr.2005 11:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do the research link Saying "the Jews" did it, or Israel "did it", is quite naive. Complicity was required by many, MANY ethnicities and states, and the like. For instance, calling Bush a Zionista is pretty silly, because every last link in his chains points to Nazism, fascism, and esoteric occultists bullshit like the Masons and Bohemian Grove and the Franklin Cover-up. NONE of this can be accurately attributed to any one religion or state, and thinking about it in terms of such stifle inquiry by providing easy (and fallacious) answers. Israel benefits - Sharon said exactly that. But Monsanto, Betchel, and Halliburton benefit a whole lot more, and those companies are simply NOT jewish or Israeli. As you TRULY study the facts, you will see that "the jews" are just another Nazi scapegoat, this time falling behind the "ay-rabs" in order of use. But they are STILL just scapegoats for the masons, for the British Crown, for the premise of empire, etc. If it ever came out that it WASN'T the ay-rabs, the Jews were the fall back story: "THEY conspired, not US!" Bullspittle. Do not let ideology overwhelm evidence. The evidence points STRAIGHT to the military-industrial complex Ike warned us about. The Masons. The same masons who were Nazi sympathizers. They killed both Kennedys, MLK, and Diana, to name a few. Warren Commish? ALL MASONS. Tho it goes back much further than that, of course. I always used to think David Icke was a crank (shapeshifters? I doubt it.), but after watching his 6 hour lecture "Secrets Of The Matrix" the other day, I realized he had at least as good an understanding of long-term historical meaning as I did. Watch it - I didn't hear "reptilian" once, and was frankly impressed. His stuff about symbology is right on, and he's well versed in the darker details of Luciferianism and occultism, and the like. Again, 3 days ago I would have said Alex Jones' "Martial Law", or "Road To Tyranny", but Icke's lecture is simply brilliant, and if you want to get your head around the big picture, it's the best docu I've seen yet, and I've seen most of 'em by now. It's not the Mossad. Arguably Israel is a Nazi front anyway. Funny how it shows up in the middle of their plans a century after Balfour. Who Benefitted from 9-11? 21.Apr.2005 12:21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- glowform link If you want to know who was involved in 9-11, the only question you need to ask is who benefitted. Check out "Masters of Terror" at http://www.SupportTheTruth.com and it will be very appearant how terrorism is used by government to scare the population into submission. "Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death." --Adolf Hitler American Plans for Terrorism on American Soil! 21.Apr.2005 12:32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Got Truth? link Go to: http://www.supportthetruth.com and check out these links: Dead in the Water - USS Liberty Sacrifice at Pearl Harbor Northwood Documents the New Pearl Harbor and many others, and then it will be very obvious that they it's the same old script be8ing used over and over again: Problem Reaction Solution Keep it simple 21.Apr.2005 12:56 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saladin link I can see a lot of time and thought went into that essay. However, I'm afraid it only serves to complicate the issue. While it is obvious the official story is a complete farce I think it is best to stick to evidence that proves beyond a doubt the lies and complicity of Bush&Co. The one thing I always point out to people is the impossible collapse of WTC7. Even the most stubborn skeptics I have spoken with were forced to admit there is something wrong with that picture. #7 straddled the city's Con Ed electrical substation. It was constructed of some of the thickest steel beams of any building anywhere on the planet. Yet the Govt. expects us to believe that a few minor office fires reduced these beams to toothpicks in a total collapse. And FEMA's final report claims they have no idea why that building came down even though Larry Silverstein admitted to pulling it. Bring this to peoples attention first, then show them a little more at a time. This tactic has worked well for me. how come you are so sure of what you are saying? 21.Apr.2005 12:59 . http://pyramid.blog-city.com/ The Mossad was only WATCHING and RECORDING 21.Apr.2005 13:10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wise One link The Mossad was ONLY WATCHING and DOCUMENTING the Bush/American Military cabal's complete complicity in 9-11 to blackmail them and cover their own asses. They wanted to make DAMN sure that Bush didn't frame THEM for 9-11 and stab THEM in the back like all other former Bush allies... Saddam, McVeigh, Osama. The Mossad has INDISPUTABLE PROOF of Bush 9-11 complicity and it's the only thing keeping Sharon alive at this point. Yes they benefited tangentially, but they're too damn smart to ever have involved themselves in this in the first place, especially after Bush asked. But that was enough to make them document the entire thing, from Marvin Bush's company wiring the towers, right down to the final implosion. The Mossad and Israelis know full well that, once the Mideast "arab" problem final solution is implemented, THEY'LL BE NEXT ON THE LIST. Yes they knew in advance, but are using the knowledge (and protecting it with disinfo) as INSURANCE and BLACKMAIL AMMO. There are no true allies in this operation... all are out for their own agenda, fighting like lions over a tiny piece of raw meat (oil) for survival, and all will readily take a fatal chunk out of their nearest neighbor as soon as feast beside them. Problem is, this proof will be held over Bush's head, forcing him to attack Iran in June, at which time China and Russia will take care of the worlds' "Amerikan Empire" problem, and permanently, through a scalar attack that will result in Amerikan nuclear reprisals and corresponding China and Russian nuke retaliation. Russia will let China take the lead, and then bring up the rear as Amerika's capabibility to retaliate is decimated. China will survive; Amerika will not. Guilty of Innocence (the antichrist song) 21.Apr.2005 14:13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Johnny Wizard link (A Johnny Wizard snip from Google 'groups' tab, "us.military.army") The Son of Man rocks! http://michiganimc.org/usermedia/audio/12/Guilty_of_Innocence.mp3 Guilty of Innocence (the antichrist song) http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/uploads/guilty_of_innocence.mp3 -- Again, we witness no counter argument for bush and rumsfeld's treason against all the American people. They both have struggled diliberately to hide the culprits responsible for 9/11, blamed a nation of millions without evidence to murder for Enron, have attacked the American Constitution, stolen billions from cowardly Americans silenced by the corporate agenda through frauds blatant... And, they both need to immediately be tried for war crimes, or taken out by loyal American Patriots who will stand up for freedom to be America. He has the right idea! 21.Apr.2005 15:12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Webber link FASCINATING THAT FOX NEWS EVEN HAD THIS WEBSITE REMOVE CARL CAMERON'S STORY, EH? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.htmll This is a typo. The .htmll should be .html and then the link works. The author also failed to mention Dov S. Zakheim the mastermind behind 9/11 Attack. http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html Or that Ariel Sharon, who was scheduled to give an address to Israeli support groups in New York City on September 11th, cancelled his plans the day before. http://www.nogw.com/9_11.html Good article! test 21.Apr.2005 16:21 D. Cheney link Following are many of the best 911-Truth audio/video clips, effective for initiating contacts who remain asleep/incredulous to the awful truth. Please consider copy/pasting the following to your entire email contact list, with a personal note encouraging them to forward it to their contacts. Interpersonal, 'viral' propagation of the truth of 911 is nearly all we have left-- with the politicians, courts, & media totally co-opted by TPTB (The Powers That Be). Also consider posting this to internet messageboards of all varieties. Right-click/Save-As audio/video links to save them to your computer, from where you can burn them to CD and distribute to aquaintences who may not otherwise view them. -------- David Ray Griffin's "New Pearl Harbor", full text online: http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355.php David Ray Griffin's talk on his book "911 Commission: Ommissions and Distortions" (QuickTime movie, 1 hour, 47.5 MB): http://movies12.archive.org/0/movies/drgriffin/drgriffinon911commission.mov Michael Ruppert's 8/31/04 speech to San Francisco Commonwealth Club re "Crossing The Rubicon", his book on 911-Truth, oil, and US Empire (MP3s, 29 mins, 10 MBs each): Part 1: http://media.globalpublicmedia.com/RM/2004/08/Ruppert.Commonwealth.20040831-1.mp3 Part 2: http://media.globalpublicmedia.com/RM/2004/08/Ruppert.Commonwealth.20040831-2.mp3 Transcript: http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/transcripts/159 Michael Ruppert radio interview 2/14/05 re 911, Oil, and the financial markets (MP3, 49 mins, 22.2 MBs): http://media.globalpublicmedia.com/RM/2005/02/KZYX.MichaelRuppert.ElsCooperrider.2005-02-14.mp3 Webster G. Tarpley 3/27/05 radio interview re his book: "Synthetic Terror: Made in USA" (MP3, 29 mins, 13.3 MBs): http://www.suesupriano.com/audio/webstertarpley.mp3 Dan Rather remarks on the strange collapse of WTC-7 (MPEG 35 seconds, 1.3 MB): http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg Bush lying about 911 morning, "...the TV was obviously on" (RealPlayer, 1 minute, 880 KB): http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bushsawfirstplane1.ram Bush fumbles a softball press question about 911 foreknowledge (MPEG, 43 seconds, 7.2 MB): http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/6/9_11laugh.mpg Firemen recall "detonations" in South Tower (MPEG, 29 seconds, 4.8 MB): http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg Animated image (.gif) of WTC-7 collapse. Good for posting to messageboards where posting images is possible: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif Fake terror staged by governments is nothing new. See the US Government's since declassified "Operation Northwoods" scheme (PDF, 780 KB): http://www.prisonplanet.com/northwoods.pdf Bilderberg Group, a key element of the "shadow government" which rules much of the Western World, discussed by BBC Radio (MP3, 28 mins, 4.8 MB): http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3 nice idea 21.Apr.2005 20:16 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- me link "Following are many of the best 911-Truth audio/video clips, effective for initiating contacts who remain asleep/incredulous to the awful truth." nice idea. duly spread around the world. thanks. Well DUH! 21.Apr.2005 23:45 Bluey the Blogger link Every person on Planet Earth who makes a comment or opinion to with 9/11, has the actual murdering perpetrators rolling on the floor with uncontrollable laughter. Who, out of ALL of you, actually remembers their Science and Physics from school days? Nobody that's who! Those buildings should have, by the Laws of Physics, come down to ground zero in at least 12.8 seconds.......So, how come it only took 6.7 seconds? The technology used to do this does not belong to some bearded fool in a cave. When you figure out who the only organization on Planet Earth could be, that owns this type of technology, you will know exactly who did it! OK? (there were no terrorists per-se) When you figure out also, who removed the borders (boxes) on your dollar bills within 7 days of President Clinton's Impeachment Hearing in front of the Congress, you will come to the correct conclusion of 9/11, OK? Who has absolute access to the mail, for the convenience of sending Anthrax through the mail? Answer that question, and you will still come to the same conclusion of 9/11 I know exactly who it was, and how it was done...and BELIEVE ME, you're ALL wrong! Pre-911 Test Drive 22.Apr.2005 10:07 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rsqsrvs link Prior to 911 on July 15,2001 there was a controlled demolition at the Greenpoint Holder Tank located in Brooklyn East Williamsberg\Greenpoint area. This Controlled Demolition was Contracted by Keyspan Energy to Controlled Demolition Inc. And the Gulliani Administration. I don't have much information as to the contract information, but it is a comfirmed incident and can be traced using google. Another problem is with the removal of City records relating to everyday meetings and negotiations, so I can only provide Key people and imformtion on whats already out in the loop. I am a Former NYPD Aux-PO and am conducting a crimminal investigation into 911. Being that there is no official investigation from the powers that be, we have the God Blessing from the Inter-net and the dedicated private investigators out there all over the world communicating. I don't know how long we will be able to cross communicate as the government seems inten on controlling free speech rights guarrenteed by the bill of right and the constitution, so you've got to really try to get out the message quickly. I am also currently an FDNY Aux Lt Fireman who is working on my 11th years with the New York City Fire Department as an Civil Defense Fireman under the New York State Emergency Defense Act of 1951 after the Federal Civil Defense Act of 1950 signed in to Order by President Harry S Truman during the ColdWar. I took FEMA Courses Prior to 911 in Emergecy Program Management and Radiological Monitoring. My specialty is Cross-Monitoring/Communications Inter-Ops. It is my opinion the Different First Responder Agencies responding to the same emergency need their information in real time while still in response mode. This is something that I was trying to put out to the different agencies prior to 911. Chief Eugene Kelty Formerly Captain of Engine/Ladder Ten is my witness to this. I programed the MessHall Scanner while operating of of TenHouse 98/99. I don't claim to Know everything regarding 911 and I am not an expert on Demolitions and the Mathimatical Principles, and the comment made in error about knowing about a gag order by Woolsey is false, this was speculation and not a statement of fact. Mr Woolseys son was rescued from the south tower by firemen on 911. It is my op[inion that there wouldn't be a father who would knowingly allow his son or daughter to die or be injured by something he knew was coming. (Then again this is only my opinion) But I will say that I was there and I heard the Explossions which in my opinion had nothing to do with the Plane crashes. If anyone is interested in the Research between the Keyspan Holdertanks Demo and the coincidences between this and 911. Send E-mail to Rsqsrvs@Yahoo.com. Maybe someone with abilty can further the research into this anomoly. there is no charge for the information. I believe in truth NOT Profit. this is the deviding line. Be safe everyone, God Bless Paul Isaac Jr FDNY Auxiliary Fire Corps (NYS/NYC Civil Defense) Auxiliary Lt Fireman/ Former NYPD Auxiliary Police Officer Controlled Demolitions 23.Apr.2005 18:34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bluey the Blogger link I forgot to mention a few other questions surrounding 9/11. Where are the Black Box flight recorders from the so-called crashed airliners? Why was there no furniture such as steel filing cabinets, office furniture, etc, etc, amongst the rubble? Where is the 50,000 tonnes of steel, still missing from the inventory of the clean-up? Where is the 50,000 tonnes of concrete, still missing from the same inventory? Why was most of the office furniture in both towers, replaced with plastic items at least four weeks before the "Attack"? Who are the people claiming the $millions of profit accrued from the Put Options stocks of United and American airlines? (placed there prior to the "Attack") Why were ALL the glass windows and doors, within 1600 metres diameter of the towers, completely shatterd? (This never happens under controlled demolition conditions) Are any of you out there actually AWAKE or are you too busy to see what is really going on here? I once knew a person who was taken to see a forest, but complained because there were too many trees in the way! Have a nice dreamy existence ALL you Sheeple! Wakey, wakey, the world needs us. Building 7 was admittedly pulled 01.May.2005 04:42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- researcher link The following is from http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html Professional Demolition of World Trade Center Building 7 Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives. We have attempted to call Larry Silverstein's office on several occasions. Silverstein has never issued a retraction for his comments. Photos taken moments before the collapse of WTC 7 show small office fires on just two floors. Firefighters were told to move away from the building moments before it collapsed. In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million! ----------------------------- Close-Up of WTC-7 Collapse Footage Shows Unmistakable Demolition Charges Construction Worker Gives Another Account Of Underground Blasts In The WTC First-hand Accounts of Underground Explosions In The North Tower New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers In this clip you will hear a discussion between New York Firefighters from September 11 where they describe the WTC and the fact that it looked like detonators were planted in the towers. WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashes Update: WTC Construction Certifiers Say Towers Should Have Easily Withstood Jet Fuel Temperatures NNBC: FDNY Chief of Safety Reported Bombs Both Within the Towers and on the Planes on 9/11 "The results of these tests appear to indicate that the buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by pools of burning jet fuel. " Debunker Attacks WTC 7 Evidence on MSNBC's Countdown CNN Poll: 89% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/11 Zogby Poll: Half of New Yorkers Believe Government Complicity in 9/11 Instead the WTC and building 7 collapses resembled this. Who Else Knew That Building 7 Was About to Collapse? A photographer named Tom Franklin was near Building 7 at around 4pm. He remarked, "Firemen evacuated the area as they prepared for the collapse of Building Seven. We were catching out breath, drinking water and juice, when I decided to walk back towards the debris. It was between 4 and 5pm. I would say I was 150 yards away when I saw the firefighters raising the flag." This strongly indicates that somebody told the firefighters to stay away from Building 7 because it was about to collapse. Why would firefighter stay away from a building unless the knew it was going to collapse? No fire had ever caused the collapse of a steel building before and there were only two small fires that were blazing. Why were the firefighters warned to stay away from buildings while the people in the twin towers were ordered to STAY IN the buildings AFTER both planes had hit? Before either of the twin towers collapsed, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and his associates were told to leave the headquarters they had set up within Building 7. "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse," Rudolph Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News that morning, "and it did collapse before we could get out of the building." Despite this, Giuliani fled WTC 7 at least eight hours before it collapsed. How did he know that the twin towers were going to collapse if it was such an unprecedented occurance? Why didn't the firefighters on the ground get the same warning? How Could The Explosives Have Been Placed Beforehand? Ben Fountain, a financial analyst who worked in the World Trade Center Complex, told People Magazine that in the weeks before 9/11 there were numerous unnanounced and unusual drills where sections of both the twin towers and building 7 were evacuated for quote 'security reasons'. This was obviously the perfect opportunity to place those explosives. How Did Larry Silverstein Benefit from the Collapse of Building 7? In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million! Objections Raised to the Meaning of Silverstein's Comments Listen again to Larry Silverstein's comments on the PBS documentary. Michael Kane's comments appeared on Jeff Rense's website at http://www.rense.com. He writes... "I've said it once before, and I'll say it again, someone MUST call Larry Silverstein and get an official comment on this because LARRY DOES NOT SAY THAT WTC 7 WAS DEMOLISHED, OR "PULLED", ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001. What he says is that they made the DECISION to "pull" (meaning demolish) WTC 7 and SHORTLY AFTER THEY MADE THAT DECISION, Larry Silverstein says "they watched the building COLLAPSE. Regardless of what really happened, what this man said does NOT say that the building was demolished. He clearly says "the decision was made to pull" and then he says, "and we watched the building collapse" The connotation is that they were going to demolish it anyway, but golly-gee-wiz the building collapsed right when they made that decision so they DID NOT actually go through with the demolition. So, when Jeremy Baker said in his article: "Mr. Silverstein's comments imply that he and the FDNY threw together an expert demolition job in the space of a few short hours on the afternoon of 9/11" This is not correct, Silverstein was very careful to NOT imply this in the way he worded what he said. Silverstein's statement does not imply that was done - it is impossible to do that anyway and Silverstein did not walk into a trap like that; he covered his ass with the way in which he worded what he said. I don't have time for this now, but I hope someone out there does (hopefully Jeremy Baker can do this to properly follow-up on his first piece, which was otherwise quite good) CALL LARRY SILVERSTEIN, GET HIM OR HIS PEOPLE TO COMMENT ON THIS GET THE FDNY TO COMMENT ON THIS That's what must happen. The above article by Jeremy Baker makes assumptions off of a statement which, in a court of law, can be defended the way I just interrupted above. I guarantee when someone calls Mr. Silverstein he is going to say EXACTLY what I said above because it makes sense and still jives with the official story. Whoever calls and asks this should very thoroughly consider what their FOLLOW-UP questions will be because that is where we may get good information. I applaud Jeremy Baker for writing a piece to scrutinize the Achilles heal of 9-11, but he (or someone) must follow up properly with calls to Larry Silverstein and whoever the head of FDNY was that day who he spoke to and clarify this. Without doing so, we will make no further progress." My response.... Even if this is true and Silverstein meant that they were going to pull the building but it collapsed before they had the chance, there are still inconsistencies. Whether he is saying they DID pull the building or merely INTENDED to pull the building, the questions remain the same. Why would they even be considering pulling the building when it only had two small pockets of fire visible? How could they safely and successfully demolish the building that day when it would take at least a few days to rig the explosives in a 47 story building? Is Silverstein merely trying to cover his tracks by recognizing the demolition possibility while still claiming the collapse was natural? This would give him more credibility rather than if he just ignored all the questions about demolition altogether. What remains clear is that THE BUILDING WAS DESTROYED BY EXPLOSIVES WITHIN THE BUILDING. There is no other explanation for its sudden, perfect, symmetrical fall. Furthermore, go back to the top of the page and watch the video clip again. Silverstein's body language clearly indicates that they regrettably (sic) had to pull the building, NOT that they considered pulling it. The bottom line is that Silverstein made $500 million as a result of the collapse. The building would not have collapsed on its own and the only reason that they would make the DECISION to destroy the building would not be to 'save lives' as Silverstein claimed, but to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the insurance. Evidence of Explosives Used in the Twin Towers The Firefighters' Tapes: Tapes reveal that fires were under control not raging infernos The audio presented here is a recording of the firefighter's tapes on September 11th that have been released publically. A lot of the portions of the tapes have been classified. This portion lasts an hour and thirteen minutes, we have highlighted the interesting parts below with full transcripts. According to the Port Authority, this recording covers approximately 8:45 to 9:58 AM Eastern. Open the following link and it should play in your media player. 911 Firefighter's tape Now wait til it downloads and skip through to 39:00 and begin listening to the following: 9:25 a.m. Ladder 15: "Go ahead, Irons." Ladder 15 Irons: "Just got a report from the director of Morgan Stanley. Seventy-eight seems to have taken the brunt of this stuff, there's a lot of bodies, they say the stairway is clear all the way up, though." Ladder 15: "Alright, ten-four Scott. What, what floor are you on?" Ladder 15 Irons: "Forty-eight right now." Ladder 15: "Alright, we're coming up behind you." Now skip another six minutes to 45:52 and listen: 9:31 a.m. Battalion Seven Aide: "Battalion Seven, you want me to relay?" Ladder 15: "Yeah, Steve tell Chief Palmer they got reports that there's more planes in the area, we may have to back down here." Battalion Seven Aide: "Ten-four." "Seven Alpha to Seven." Battalion Seven: "Steve. Seven to Seven Alpha." Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof." "Fifteen Roof." Ladder 15: "We got reports of another incoming plane. We may have to take cover. Stay in the stairwell." Ladder 15 Roof: "Ten-four." Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof. That plane's ours. I repeat. It's ours. What floor are you on, Scotty?" Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifty-four." Ladder 15: "Alright. Keep making your way up. We're behind you." Ladder 15 Roof: "Ten-four." The officers then describe where they are headed, where they believe the fires to be... Now skip to 54:02... 9:37 a.m. Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Tommy, listen carefully. I'm sending all the injured down to you on 40. You're going to have to get'em down to the elevator. There's about 10 to 15 people coming down to you." Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Okay." Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Ten civilians coming down. Fifteen to OV." Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Got that, I'm on 40 right now, Lieu." 9:39 a.m. Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Alright Tommy, when you take people down to the lobby, try to get an EMS crew back." Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Definitely." Now skip to 57:20... 9:43 a.m. Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15 Roof, what's your progress?" Ladder 15 Roof: "Sixty-three, Battalion." Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four." Battaltion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "Go ahead Battaltion Nine." Battalion Nine Chief: "Orio, I couldn't find a bank to bring you up any highter. I'm on the 40th floor, what can I do for you?" Battalion Seven Chief: "We're going to have to hoof it. I'm on 69 now, but we need a higher bank, kay." Battalion Nine Chief: "What stairway you in Orio?" Battalion Seven Chief: "The center of the building, boy, boy." "Tac One to Tac One Alpha." Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15 Roof, what floor?" Battalion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "...Battalion Nine." Battalion Nine Chief: "Orio, I'm going to try and get a couple of CFRD engines on the 40th floor so send any victims down here, I'll start up a staging area." Battalion Seven Chief: "...find a fireman service elevator close to 40, if we get some more cars in that bank, we'll be alright." Now skip to 01:02:40. This is where the fires are discovered and described as "two isolated pockets" 9:48 a.m. Ladder 15: "Battalion Fifteen to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven: "Go Ladder 15." Ladder 15: "What do you got up there, Chief?" Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm still in boy stair 74th floor. No smoke or fire problems, walls are breached, so be careful." Ladder 15: "Yeah Ten-Four, I saw that on 68. Alright, we're on 71 we're coming up behind you." Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four. Six more to go." Ladder 15: "Let me know when you see more fire." Battalion Seven Chief: "I found a marshall on 75." 9:49 a.m. Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 OV. Fifteen to 15 OV. "Fifteen OV." Ladder 15: "Tommy, have you made it back down to the lobbby yet?" Ladder 15 OV: "The elevator's screwed up." Ladder 15: "You can't move it?" Ladder 15 OV: "I don't want to get stuck in the shaft." 9:50 a.m. Ladder 15: "Alright Tommy. It's imperative that you go down to the lobby command post and get some people up to 40. We got injured people up here on 70. If you make it to the lobby command post see if they can somehow get elevators past the 40th floor. We got people injured all the way up here." Battalion Seven Aide: "Battaltion Seven Alpha to Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "Go Steve." Battalion Seven Aide: "Yeah Chief, I'm on 55, I got to rest. I'll try to get up there as soon as possible." Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four." 9:50 a.m. "Anybody see the highway one car? Highway one car we need it for an escort to the hospital for a fireman." Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15." "15 Irons." Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof and Irons." Battalion Six Chief: "Battalion Six to command post." 9:52 a.m. Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha." "Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us." Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones." Ladder 15: "What stair are you in, Orio?" Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha to lobby command post." Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "... Ladder 15." Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?" Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower." Ladder 15: "Floor 78?" Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here." Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're on our way." 9:52 a.m. Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha for Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "South tower, Steve, south tower, tell them...Tower one. Battalion Seven to Ladder 15. "Fifteen." Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm going to need two of your firefighters Adam stairway to knock down two fires. We have a house line stretched we could use some water on it, knock it down, kay." Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're coming up the stairs. We're on 77 now in the B stair, I'll be right to you." Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifteen Roof to 15. We're on 71. We're coming right up." Now skip to 01:11:22... 9:57 a.m. "Division 3 ... lobby command, to the Fieldcom command post." Battalion Seven Chief: "Operations Tower One to floor above Battalion Nine." Battalion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to command post." Battalion Seven Operations Tower One: "Battalion Seven Operations Tower One to Battalion Nine, need you on floor above 79. We have access stairs going up to 79, kay." Battalion Nine: "Alright, I'm on my way up Orio." Ladder 15 OV: "Fifteen OV to Fifteen." Ladder 15: "Go ahead Fifteen OV, Battalion Seven Operations Tower One." Ladder 15 OV: "Stuck in the elevator, in the elevator shaft, you're going to have to get a difference elevator. We're chopping through the wall to get out." Battalion Seven Chief: "Radio lobby command with that Tower One." 9:58 a.m. Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15." (END OF TAPE) These tapes reveal the fact that the firefighters were not overly concerned with the strength of the fires and believed they could control them. They were not raging infernos that could melt steel. These tapes alone prove that the official story of the collapse of the World Trade Towers is a complete and total lie. Why have the rest of the tapes been classified? Because they reveal the truth, that 's why. Video Footage of the Twin Towers' Collapse ABC News footage of the collapse of the first tower. Just as in the CBS Dan Rather broadcast, Peter Jennings and the reporters mention that the collapse looks like a controlled demolition. These photographs clearly show shape-chargers going off . The plumes of smoke are consistent with explosives (as seen in the earlier controlled explosives viideos). Here is more evidence and links that there were bombs inside the twin towers.... Rescue Fireman Louie Cacchioli - "We think there was bombs set in the building": I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building. http://www.prisonplanet.com/louie_cacchioli.html Experts says explosives brought down the towers - then strangely changes his mind days later: Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. http://www.prisonplanet.com/Fire_Not_Extra_Explosives_Doomed_ Buildings_Expert_Says.htm Eyewitness Reports Persist Of Bombs At WTC Collapse The top three designers of the World Trade Center say they designed it to be able to absorb a large commercial airliner without collapsing. http://www.rense.com/general17/eyewitnessreportspersist.htm Head of the New York Planetary Society, Neil Tyson Reports Explosives Went Off "As more and more and more and more and more emergency vehicles descended on the World Trade Center, I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion." http://www.prisonplanet.com/eye_witness_account_from_new_york.html We know that the term 'pull it' means to bring the building down by means of explosives because in the same documentary a cleanup worker (in December 2001) refers to the demolition of WTC Building 6 when he says, "...we're getting ready to pull the building six." Click here to listen to the clip. This means that in direct contradiction to the official FEMA report, the goal of which was to find out why the building collapsed, the federal government had in fact demolished the building on the day of 9/11. How did they manage to rig explosives in a matter of hours that would successfully and safely take down a 47 story building in a built-up and already chaotic area? Click play to view the PBS documentary segment where Silverstein admits they pulled WTC Building 7. Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York, 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded very interesting seismic activity on September 11, 2001 that has still not been explained. While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 9-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31. The Palisades seismic record shows that -- as the collapses began -- a huge seismic "spikes" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were both registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. ------------------------------------ PLEASE E MAIL THIS REPORT OUT TO YOUR FRIENDS, POST IT ON FORUMS ETC. WE WILL BE ADDING MORE AS IT DEVELOPS. STAY TUNED. Silverstein, FDNY Decided to 'Pull WTC 7': An In-Depth Analysis Paul Joseph Watson/Alex Jones Alex Jones, host of The Alex Jones Show, which is aired on the Genesis Communications Radio Network, today Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter 'Weaver: "We lost Craig Miller, an employee that we still can't find. His body has never been recovered. People here are still grief stricken." (first quarter, 2002) Steve Carey - SS special agent in charge or recreating task force. "When 7 World Trade Center came down on Sept. 11, an agent on loan from Washington, special officer Craig Miller, perished, and the entire Secret Service office was buried in that building. Yet, despite the devastation, the New York Electronic Crime Task Force has stepped up its operations in credit card fraud and for Osama Bin Laden's money" http://www.ectaskforce.org/City_Leads_Way.pdf [link expired] "One employee, Master Special Officer Craig Miller, died during the rescue efforts. Miller was temporarily assigned to New York in preparation for the United Nations General Assembly." http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/press/pub1202.pdf "in selfless dedication to others, Master Special Officer Craig Miller was lost in the collapse of the World Trade Center." http://www.house.gov/istook/rel-ss-customs.htm. Flashback: Bush Blocked Bill For WTC Rescue Workers and Firemen: People Becoming Ill and Dying as a Result of the Deliberate Demolition of Building 7 At his Waco, Texas pep rally on the economy, President Bush announced that he intended to enforce "spending restraint" by blocking a US$5.1 billion emergency spending Bill passed by Congress. The Bill included US$90 million for long-term health monitoring of World Trade Centre (WTC) rescue workers and volunteers who were exposed to a catastrophe with potential long-term health and environmental consequences. Ful London Guardian story at http://www.cpa.org.au/garchve5/1108bush.html Update: World Trade Center 7 Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY and Others An In Depth Video Analysis by Alex Jones, Featuring New Clips from the PBS America Rebuilds documentary and Footage from His Live Television Show in Austin, TX. WATCH THE CLIP: (Windows Media File) Alex Jones lays out the facts about the collapse of the world Trade Center complex, the Bushes and the Bin Ladens and Much More -- 30+ minute video clip -- exclusive from infowars. Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter 'Weaver: "We lost Craig Miller, an employee that we still can't find. His body has never been recovered. People here are still grief stricken." (first quarter, 2002) Steve Carey - SS special agent in charge or recreating task force. "When 7 World Trade Center came down on Sept. 11, an agent on loan from Washington, special officer Craig Miller, perished, and the entire Secret Service office was buried in that building. Yet, despite the devastation, the New York Electronic Crime Task Force has stepped up its operations in credit card fraud and for Osama Bin Laden's money" http://www.ectaskforce.org/City_Leads_Way.pdf [link expired] "One employee, Master Special Officer Craig Miller, died during the rescue efforts. Miller was temporarily assigned to New York in preparation for the United Nations General Assembly." http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/press/pub1202.pdf "in selfless dedication to others, Master Special Officer Craig Miller was lost in the collapse of the World Trade Center." http://www.house.gov/istook/rel-ss-customs.htm. Flashback: Bush Blocked Bill For WTC Rescue Workers and Firemen: People Becoming Ill and Dying as a Result of the Deliberate Demolition of Building 7 At his Waco, Texas pep rally on the economy, President Bush announced that he intended to enforce "spending restraint" by blocking a US$5.1 billion emergency spending Bill passed by Congress. The Bill included US$90 million for long-term health monitoring of World Trade Centre (WTC) rescue workers and volunteers who were exposed to a catastrophe with potential long-term health and environmental consequences. Ful London Guardian story at http://www.cpa.org.au/garchve5/1108bush.html Click play to view the video. Click play to view the video. In this video Dan Rather states on CBS that the building looks like it was rigged with well-placed dynamite. Click play to view the video. In this closer shot you can clearly see shape-chargers going off as the building crumbles. Videos of Controlled Demolitions Compare the two videos below with the footage of the WTC 7 collapse and the actual collapse of the twin towers. The first video shows a collapse where charges have NOT been strategically placed throughout the whole building. You will note the toppling effect rather than a straight down collapse. Then take a look at the second video in which two towers ARE strategically demolished with charges set throughout the whole buildings. Click play to view the video. The WTC and building 7 collapses should have vaguely resembled this. Professional Demolition of World Trade Center Building 7 Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives. We have attempted to call Larry Silverstein's office on several occasions. Silverstein has never issued a retraction for his comments. Photos taken moments before the collapse of WTC 7 show small office fires on just two floors. Firefighters were told to move away from the building moments before it collapsed. In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million! ----------------------------- Close-Up of WTC-7 Collapse Footage Shows Unmistakable Demolition Charges Construction Worker Gives Another Account Of Underground Blasts In The WTC First-hand Accounts of Underground Explosions In The North Tower New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers In this clip you will hear a discussion between New York Firefighters from September 11 where they describe the WTC and the fact that it looked like detonators were planted in the towers. WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashes Update: WTC Construction Certifiers Say Towers Should Have Easily Withstood Jet Fuel Temperatures NNBC: FDNY Chief of Safety Reported Bombs Both Within the Towers and on the Planes on 9/11 "The results of these tests appear to indicate that the buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by pools of burning jet fuel. " Debunker Attacks WTC 7 Evidence on MSNBC's Countdown CNN Poll: 89% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/11 Zogby Poll: Half of New Yorkers Believe Government Complicity in 9/11 Instead the WTC and building 7 collapses resembled this. Who Else Knew That Building 7 Was About to Collapse? A photographer named Tom Franklin was near Building 7 at around 4pm. He remarked, "Firemen evacuated the area as they prepared for the collapse of Building Seven. We were catching out breath, drinking water and juice, when I decided to walk back towards the debris. It was between 4 and 5pm. I would say I was 150 yards away when I saw the firefighters raising the flag." This strongly indicates that somebody told the firefighters to stay away from Building 7 because it was about to collapse. Why would firefighter stay away from a building unless the knew it was going to collapse? No fire had ever caused the collapse of a steel building before and there were only two small fires that were blazing. Why were the firefighters warned to stay away from buildings while the people in the twin towers were ordered to STAY IN the buildings AFTER both planes had hit? Before either of the twin towers collapsed, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and his associates were told to leave the headquarters they had set up within Building 7. "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse," Rudolph Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News that morning, "and it did collapse before we could get out of the building." Despite this, Giuliani fled WTC 7 at least eight hours before it collapsed. How did he know that the twin towers were going to collapse if it was such an unprecedented occurance? Why didn't the firefighters on the ground get the same warning? How Could The Explosives Have Been Placed Beforehand? Ben Fountain, a financial analyst who worked in the World Trade Center Complex, told People Magazine that in the weeks before 9/11 there were numerous unnanounced and unusual drills where sections of both the twin towers and building 7 were evacuated for quote 'security reasons'. This was obviously the perfect opportunity to place those explosives. How Did Larry Silverstein Benefit from the Collapse of Building 7? In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million! Objections Raised to the Meaning of Silverstein's Comments Listen again to Larry Silverstein's comments on the PBS documentary. Michael Kane's comments appeared on Jeff Rense's website at http://www.rense.com. He writes... "I've said it once before, and I'll say it again, someone MUST call Larry Silverstein and get an official comment on this because LARRY DOES NOT SAY THAT WTC 7 WAS DEMOLISHED, OR "PULLED", ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001. What he says is that they made the DECISION to "pull" (meaning demolish) WTC 7 and SHORTLY AFTER THEY MADE THAT DECISION, Larry Silverstein says "they watched the building COLLAPSE. Regardless of what really happened, what this man said does NOT say that the building was demolished. He clearly says "the decision was made to pull" and then he says, "and we watched the building collapse" The connotation is that they were going to demolish it anyway, but golly-gee-wiz the building collapsed right when they made that decision so they DID NOT actually go through with the demolition. So, when Jeremy Baker said in his article: "Mr. Silverstein's comments imply that he and the FDNY threw together an expert demolition job in the space of a few short hours on the afternoon of 9/11" This is not correct, Silverstein was very careful to NOT imply this in the way he worded what he said. Silverstein's statement does not imply that was done - it is impossible to do that anyway and Silverstein did not walk into a trap like that; he covered his ass with the way in which he worded what he said. I don't have time for this now, but I hope someone out there does (hopefully Jeremy Baker can do this to properly follow-up on his first piece, which was otherwise quite good) CALL LARRY SILVERSTEIN, GET HIM OR HIS PEOPLE TO COMMENT ON THIS GET THE FDNY TO COMMENT ON THIS That's what must happen. The above article by Jeremy Baker makes assumptions off of a statement which, in a court of law, can be defended the way I just interrupted above. I guarantee when someone calls Mr. Silverstein he is going to say EXACTLY what I said above because it makes sense and still jives with the official story. Whoever calls and asks this should very thoroughly consider what their FOLLOW-UP questions will be because that is where we may get good information. I applaud Jeremy Baker for writing a piece to scrutinize the Achilles heal of 9-11, but he (or someone) must follow up properly with calls to Larry Silverstein and whoever the head of FDNY was that day who he spoke to and clarify this. Without doing so, we will make no further progress." My response.... Even if this is true and Silverstein meant that they were going to pull the building but it collapsed before they had the chance, there are still inconsistencies. Whether he is saying they DID pull the building or merely INTENDED to pull the building, the questions remain the same. Why would they even be considering pulling the building when it only had two small pockets of fire visible? How could they safely and successfully demolish the building that day when it would take at least a few days to rig the explosives in a 47 story building? Is Silverstein merely trying to cover his tracks by recognizing the demolition possibility while still claiming the collapse was natural? This would give him more credibility rather than if he just ignored all the questions about demolition altogether. What remains clear is that THE BUILDING WAS DESTROYED BY EXPLOSIVES WITHIN THE BUILDING. There is no other explanation for its sudden, perfect, symmetrical fall. Furthermore, go back to the top of the page and watch the video clip again. Silverstein's body language clearly indicates that they regrettably (sic) had to pull the building, NOT that they considered pulling it. The bottom line is that Silverstein made $500 million as a result of the collapse. The building would not have collapsed on its own and the only reason that they would make the DECISION to destroy the building would not be to 'save lives' as Silverstein claimed, but to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the insurance. Evidence of Explosives Used in the Twin Towers The Firefighters' Tapes: Tapes reveal that fires were under control not raging infernos The audio presented here is a recording of the firefighter's tapes on September 11th that have been released publically. A lot of the portions of the tapes have been classified. This portion lasts an hour and thirteen minutes, we have highlighted the interesting parts below with full transcripts. According to the Port Authority, this recording covers approximately 8:45 to 9:58 AM Eastern. Open the following link and it should play in your media player. 911 Firefighter's tape Now wait til it downloads and skip through to 39:00 and begin listening to the following: 9:25 a.m. Ladder 15: "Go ahead, Irons." Ladder 15 Irons: "Just got a report from the director of Morgan Stanley. Seventy-eight seems to have taken the brunt of this stuff, there's a lot of bodies, they say the stairway is clear all the way up, though." Ladder 15: "Alright, ten-four Scott. What, what floor are you on?" Ladder 15 Irons: "Forty-eight right now." Ladder 15: "Alright, we're coming up behind you." Now skip another six minutes to 45:52 and listen: 9:31 a.m. Battalion Seven Aide: "Battalion Seven, you want me to relay?" Ladder 15: "Yeah, Steve tell Chief Palmer they got reports that there's more planes in the area, we may have to back down here." Battalion Seven Aide: "Ten-four." "Seven Alpha to Seven." Battalion Seven: "Steve. Seven to Seven Alpha." Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof." "Fifteen Roof." Ladder 15: "We got reports of another incoming plane. We may have to take cover. Stay in the stairwell." Ladder 15 Roof: "Ten-four." Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof. That plane's ours. I repeat. It's ours. What floor are you on, Scotty?" Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifty-four." Ladder 15: "Alright. Keep making your way up. We're behind you." Ladder 15 Roof: "Ten-four." The officers then describe where they are headed, where they believe the fires to be... Now skip to 54:02... 9:37 a.m. Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Tommy, listen carefully. I'm sending all the injured down to you on 40. You're going to have to get'em down to the elevator. There's about 10 to 15 people coming down to you." Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Okay." Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Ten civilians coming down. Fifteen to OV." Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Got that, I'm on 40 right now, Lieu." 9:39 a.m. Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Alright Tommy, when you take people down to the lobby, try to get an EMS crew back." Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Definitely." Now skip to 57:20... 9:43 a.m. Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15 Roof, what's your progress?" Ladder 15 Roof: "Sixty-three, Battalion." Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four." Battaltion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "Go ahead Battaltion Nine." Battalion Nine Chief: "Orio, I couldn't find a bank to bring you up any highter. I'm on the 40th floor, what can I do for you?" Battalion Seven Chief: "We're going to have to hoof it. I'm on 69 now, but we need a higher bank, kay." Battalion Nine Chief: "What stairway you in Orio?" Battalion Seven Chief: "The center of the building, boy, boy." "Tac One to Tac One Alpha." Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15 Roof, what floor?" Battalion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "...Battalion Nine." Battalion Nine Chief: "Orio, I'm going to try and get a couple of CFRD engines on the 40th floor so send any victims down here, I'll start up a staging area." Battalion Seven Chief: "...find a fireman service elevator close to 40, if we get some more cars in that bank, we'll be alright." Now skip to 01:02:40. This is where the fires are discovered and described as "two isolated pockets" 9:48 a.m. Ladder 15: "Battalion Fifteen to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven: "Go Ladder 15." Ladder 15: "What do you got up there, Chief?" Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm still in boy stair 74th floor. No smoke or fire problems, walls are breached, so be careful." Ladder 15: "Yeah Ten-Four, I saw that on 68. Alright, we're on 71 we're coming up behind you." Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four. Six more to go." Ladder 15: "Let me know when you see more fire." Battalion Seven Chief: "I found a marshall on 75." 9:49 a.m. Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 OV. Fifteen to 15 OV. "Fifteen OV." Ladder 15: "Tommy, have you made it back down to the lobbby yet?" Ladder 15 OV: "The elevator's screwed up." Ladder 15: "You can't move it?" Ladder 15 OV: "I don't want to get stuck in the shaft." 9:50 a.m. Ladder 15: "Alright Tommy. It's imperative that you go down to the lobby command post and get some people up to 40. We got injured people up here on 70. If you make it to the lobby command post see if they can somehow get elevators past the 40th floor. We got people injured all the way up here." Battalion Seven Aide: "Battaltion Seven Alpha to Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "Go Steve." Battalion Seven Aide: "Yeah Chief, I'm on 55, I got to rest. I'll try to get up there as soon as possible." Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four." 9:50 a.m. "Anybody see the highway one car? Highway one car we need it for an escort to the hospital for a fireman." Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15." "15 Irons." Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof and Irons." Battalion Six Chief: "Battalion Six to command post." 9:52 a.m. Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha." "Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us." Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones." Ladder 15: "What stair are you in, Orio?" Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha to lobby command post." Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "... Ladder 15." Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?" Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower." Ladder 15: "Floor 78?" Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here." Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're on our way." 9:52 a.m. Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha for Battalion Seven." Battalion Seven Chief: "South tower, Steve, south tower, tell them...Tower one. Battalion Seven to Ladder 15. "Fifteen." Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm going to need two of your firefighters Adam stairway to knock down two fires. We have a house line stretched we could use some water on it, knock it down, kay." Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're coming up the stairs. We're on 77 now in the B stair, I'll be right to you." Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifteen Roof to 15. We're on 71. We're coming right up." Now skip to 01:11:22... 9:57 a.m. "Division 3 ... lobby command, to the Fieldcom command post." Battalion Seven Chief: "Operations Tower One to floor above Battalion Nine." Battalion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to command post." Battalion Seven Operations Tower One: "Battalion Seven Operations Tower One to Battalion Nine, need you on floor above 79. We have access stairs going up to 79, kay." Battalion Nine: "Alright, I'm on my way up Orio." Ladder 15 OV: "Fifteen OV to Fifteen." Ladder 15: "Go ahead Fifteen OV, Battalion Seven Operations Tower One." Ladder 15 OV: "Stuck in the elevator, in the elevator shaft, you're going to have to get a difference elevator. We're chopping through the wall to get out." Battalion Seven Chief: "Radio lobby command with that Tower One." 9:58 a.m. Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15." (END OF TAPE) These tapes reveal the fact that the firefighters were not overly concerned with the strength of the fires and believed they could control them. They were not raging infernos that could melt steel. These tapes alone prove that the official story of the collapse of the World Trade Towers is a complete and total lie. Why have the rest of the tapes been classified? Because they reveal the truth, that 's why. Video Footage of the Twin Towers' Collapse ABC News footage of the collapse of the first tower. Just as in the CBS Dan Rather broadcast, Peter Jennings and the reporters mention that the collapse looks like a controlled demolition. These photographs clearly show shape-chargers going off . The plumes of smoke are consistent with explosives (as seen in the earlier controlled explosives viideos). Here is more evidence and links that there were bombs inside the twin towers.... Rescue Fireman Louie Cacchioli - "We think there was bombs set in the building": I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building. http://www.prisonplanet.com/louie_cacchioli.html Experts says explosives brought down the towers - then strangely changes his mind days later: Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. http://www.prisonplanet.com/Fire_Not_Extra_Explosives_Doomed_ Buildings_Expert_Says.htm Eyewitness Reports Persist Of Bombs At WTC Collapse The top three designers of the World Trade Center say they designed it to be able to absorb a large commercial airliner without collapsing. http://www.rense.com/general17/eyewitnessreportspersist.htm Head of the New York Planetary Society, Neil Tyson Reports Explosives Went Off "As more and more and more and more and more emergency vehicles descended on the World Trade Center, I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion." http://www.prisonplanet.com/eye_witness_account_from_new_york.html We know that the term 'pull it' means to bring the building down by means of explosives because in the same documentary a cleanup worker (in December 2001) refers to the demolition of WTC Building 6 when he says, "...we're getting ready to pull the building six." Click here to listen to the clip. This means that in direct contradiction to the official FEMA report, the goal of which was to find out why the building collapsed, the federal government had in fact demolished the building on the day of 9/11. How did they manage to rig explosives in a matter of hours that would successfully and safely take down a 47 story building in a built-up and already chaotic area? Click play to view the PBS documentary segment where Silverstein admits they pulled WTC Building 7. Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York, 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded very interesting seismic activity on September 11, 2001 that has still not been explained. While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 9-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31. The Palisades seismic record shows that -- as the collapses began -- a huge seismic "spikes" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were both registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. ------------------------------------ PLEASE E MAIL THIS REPORT OUT TO YOUR FRIENDS, POST IT ON FORUMS ETC. WE WILL BE ADDING MORE AS IT DEVELOPS. STAY TUNED. Silverstein, FDNY Decided to 'Pull WTC 7': An In-Depth Analysis Paul Joseph Watson/Alex Jones Alex Jones, host of The Alex Jones Show, which is aired on the Genesis Communications Radio Network, today Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter 'Weaver: "We lost Craig Miller, an employee that we still can't find. His body has never been recovered. People here are still grief stricken." (first quarter, 2002) Steve Carey - SS special agent in charge or recreating task force. "When 7 World Trade Center came down on Sept. 11, an agent on loan from Washington, special officer Craig Miller, perished, and the entire Secret Service office was buried in that building. Yet, despite the devastation, the New York Electronic Crime Task Force has stepped up its operations in credit card fraud and for Osama Bin Laden's money" http://www.ectaskforce.org/City_Leads_Way.pdf [link expired] "One employee, Master Special Officer Craig Miller, died during the rescue efforts. Miller was temporarily assigned to New York in preparation for the United Nations General Assembly." http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/press/pub1202.pdf "in selfless dedication to others, Master Special Officer Craig Miller was lost in the collapse of the World Trade Center." http://www.house.gov/istook/rel-ss-customs.htm. Flashback: Bush Blocked Bill For WTC Rescue Workers and Firemen: People Becoming Ill and Dying as a Result of the Deliberate Demolition of Building 7 At his Waco, Texas pep rally on the economy, President Bush announced that he intended to enforce "spending restraint" by blocking a US$5.1 billion emergency spending Bill passed by Congress. The Bill included US$90 million for long-term health monitoring of World Trade Centre (WTC) rescue workers and volunteers who were exposed to a catastrophe with potential long-term health and environmental consequences. Ful London Guardian story at http://www.cpa.org.au/garchve5/1108bush.

Anthrax Attack follow-on to 9/11 was US Ft. Detrick Ames Strain, a Black-Ops 01.May.2005 09:17

Mike

 http://www.judicialwatch.org/1967.shtml

jun 7, 2002 contact: press office
202-646-5172


fbi & bush administration sued over anthrax documents

judicial watch wants to know why white house went on cipro beginning september 11th

what was known and when?...................

how did the white house know the anthrax letters would be mailed one week letter, letters that must have been prepared with foreknowledge of 9/11 and letters which also sought to whip up war against arabs when the fbi has determined that the anthrax was from usa. odd that the letters would be mailed to democrat senate leaders who were holding up the patriot act and asking for an investigation of 9/11 !!
THE 9/11 FOLLOW ON
THE 9/11 FOLLOW ON

And another Mom's reaction 01.May.2005 10:22

JV

This really was a great presentation, and I've seen most all of them. Also being on TV I could get people to view it that normally won't even go to a peace demonstration.

My Mom wasn't stunned but she finally understood the reasons for what I've been saying, she even seemed excited. Think about it, if the obvious truth of the matter really starts spreading, things won't be allowed to stay the same. And yes my Mom is over 60.

Keep an eye open for C-Span rebroadcasts coming and ignore the turkeys!

no race card please 01.May.2005 17:21

jenny rotten

The "crazy" post above was obviously hacked or meant to appear so. But pulling out the "Jews" card every time a Zionist subject is raised (Mr. Antifascist) is the hallmark of trolldom. The shit is really bubbling now.

get active 01.May.2005 20:28

Harry

Following are many of the best 911-Truth audio/video clips, effective for initiating contacts who remain asleep/incredulous to the awful truth. Please consider copy/pasting the following to your entire email contact list, with a personal note encouraging them to forward it to their contacts. Interpersonal, 'viral' propagation of the truth of 911 is nearly all we have left-- with the politicians, courts, & media totally co-opted by TPTB (The Powers That Be). Also consider posting this to internet messageboards of all varieties. Right-click/Save-As audio/video links to save them to your computer, from where you can burn them to CD and distribute to aquaintences who may not otherwise view them.

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Audio of David Ray Griffin's UW-Madison speech re how religious people should respond to the truth of 911 (MP3, 1 hour 22 mins, 33 MB)
 http://www.septembereleventh.org/documents/drg_cspan.mp3

David Ray Griffin's "New Pearl Harbor", full text online:
 http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355.php

David Ray Griffin's talk on his book "911 Commission: Ommissions and Distortions" (QuickTime movie, 1 hour, 47.5 MB):
 http://movies12.archive.org/0/movies/drgriffin/drgriffinon911commission.mov

Michael Ruppert's 8/31/04 speech to San Francisco Commonwealth Club re "Crossing The Rubicon", his book on 911-Truth, oil, and US Empire (MP3s, 29 mins, 10 MBs each):
Part 1:
 http://media.globalpublicmedia.com/RM/2004/08/Ruppert.Commonwealth.20040831-1.mp3
Part 2:
 http://media.globalpublicmedia.com/RM/2004/08/Ruppert.Commonwealth.20040831-2.mp3
Transcript:
 http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/transcripts/159

Michael Ruppert radio interview 2/14/05 re 911, Oil, and the financial markets (MP3, 49 mins, 22.2 MBs):
 link to media.globalpublicmedia.com

Webster G. Tarpley 3/27/05 radio interview re his book: "Synthetic Terror: Made in USA" (MP3, 29 mins, 13.3 MBs):
 http://www.suesupriano.com/audio/webstertarpley.mp3

Dan Rather remarks on the strange collapse of WTC-7 (MPEG 35 seconds, 1.3 MB):
 http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg

Bush lying about 911 morning, "...the TV was obviously on" (RealPlayer, 1 minute, 880 KB):
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bushsawfirstplane1.ram

Bush fumbles a softball press question about 911 foreknowledge (MPEG, 43 seconds, 7.2 MB):
 http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/6/9_11laugh.mpg

Firemen recall "detonations" in South Tower (MPEG, 29 seconds, 4.8 MB):
 http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg

Animated image (.gif) of WTC-7 collapse. Good for posting to messageboards where posting images is possible:
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

Fake terror staged by governments is nothing new. See the US Government's since declassified "Operation Northwoods" scheme (PDF, 780 KB):
 http://www.prisonplanet.com/northwoods.pdf

Bilderberg Group, a key element of the "shadow government" which rules much of the Western World, discussed by BBC Radio (MP3, 28 mins, 4.8 MB):
 http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3

beneath the surface 01.May.2005 21:59

Watcher

gurgle gurgle, bubble bubble....

blowing whistles 01.May.2005 22:18

wb

why isn't this on the front page of every IMC in the world?

get busy!! 01.May.2005 23:56

mee2

Hey WB! Get Busy!!!

Your oppinion about notices 02.May.2005 06:12

An astonished brazilian citizen

Dear Sires,

Firstly pardon me for the possible mistakes in english. I am a brazilian citizen who really appreciate your courageous attitudes concerning to the errors of the present north-american government.

In brazil we love too much the north-american people as well as the giants of democracy that this country has given to the world.

The reason why I am trying this contact with you is because I am absolutely astonished about some notices which were writen in the site of Mr. Lyndon Larouche's EIR (a US's democratic political), as well as some other that I readed in a newspaper here in Brasil (Hora do Povo), concerning to some increadible "coincidences" verified in the attempts of 9/11. I ask you, please, to comment these informations (confirming them or telling that they are lies).

1 - Based in secret documents turned public recently, in the sixties the inteligence stablishment of USA had planned a series of attempts through a secret "Northwood Operation" that consisted on:
a) Throwing airplanes over important US buildings; b) attacking and destroying civil airplanes (suggesting sadically that would be preferable an airplane full of students in hollydays, in order causing a greater revolt on the public oppinion); c) Killing of an important upright man or a hero (also suggesting the name of John Glenn).
Obs.: The objective, in that occasion was to accuse Fidel Castro as the culpable one and having a "reason" for attacking Cuba. The problem was that the President Kennedy was firmly opposed to those crimes, reason why he was killed in that obscure circumstances;

2 - In the day 9/11, more than 6.000 people were previously free for don't work in the WTC that day (!!!?);

3 - The presidents of three Federations of Syndicates of civil aviators of different countries were emphatic on affirming that would be impossible driving those giant planes with such development, only learning to driving them through simulated flights in "week-end courses";

4 - Other extraordinary coincidence was that one airplane having been thrown exactly in the only of the five sides of the Pentagon evacuated for works and repairings;

5 - The secret services of the UK would be also evolved with these attempts.

I could also see in that mentioned communication vehycles, many other very strange circumstances which are too much difficult to accept as mere coincidences. The suggested idea is that a group of radicals was used for kidnaping the planes for claiming an enormous rescue and then, after the action, the control was assumed remotely by the real US terrorists. Like in a chessboard, one pawn (WTC) was given in order to obtain a "check" of hundreds of billion dollars. If this is truth, it's impossible don't believe that the weapon and the oil industries (accomplished with the power) are not the real promoters of the attempts with the objective to evolve the public opinion and having authorization for this latro-genocide attack and robbery on Irak, as well as gaining more votes for Bush.

If you could clear up at least these questions I would be very much pleased.

I also heard about the recent patriot law that permits inspections and censure over personal documents, so that, I am affraid that you will never receive this message. Despite that, I hope you will receive this message and I will appreciate to hear your well based oppinion in order turn lighter my heart.

Waiting to hear from you soon, please accept my congratulations for your excellent work.

Best regards.

VIDEO of the CSPAN appearance of 30 Apr 2005 02.May.2005 14:55

Griffin on CSPAN


Brazil, response 02.May.2005 15:24

reader

>>1 - "Northwood Operation"

Yes, this may be true. We aren't 100% certain, but it does appear to be true.


>>2 - In the day 9/11, more than 6.000 people were previously free for don't work in the WTC that day (!!!?);

This is unclear. However, many people WERE warned not to FLY that day, such as the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown. These are facts.


>>3 - The presidents of three Federations of Syndicates of civil aviators of different countries were emphatic on affirming that would be impossible driving those giant planes with such development, only learning to driving them through simulated flights in "week-end courses";

I'm not aware of the details of this, but it sounds about right.


>>4 - Other extraordinary coincidence was that one airplane having been thrown exactly in the only of the five sides of the Pentagon evacuated for works and repairings;

Yes, this is true. If YOU were going to hit the Pentagon, would you AVOID the side with Rumsfeld and his people??? This is one of the strongest indicators that the Pentagon hit was an INSIDE JOB.


>>5 - The secret services of the UK would be also evolved with these attempts.

Not necessarily. I know of no specific evidence for this. The super rich are worldwide, of course, and they are the ones who will benefit.


Some of the strongest evidence comes from :

-- The STAND DOWN of the US Military

-- the DEMOLITION of the WTC Towers and WTC7

-- The stock trades just before 9/11


A good resource for the towers demolition is here:

 http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/index.html


A list of the best websites is here:

 http://www.oilempire.us/911.html#best


A movie of the collapse of WTC Building 7 (no plane hit) is here -

 http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg

zionism? 29.May.2005 10:48

jew

israel is basically a pawn of the united states, i think you overestimate the influence of jews and zionism on anybody. most of the jews i know (and i know several hundred in the washinton area) don't really care about zion or any of that crap. I am sure you are all aware that about 30% of israelis are exempt from taxes because they perform the valuable service of studying the torah. THESE PEOPLE are the ones who put up settlements in intentionally controversial locations, believe that "the only good arab is a dead arab", etc. and are widely resented in the rest of israelis society (including my relatives) because the general feeling is that they are freeloaders and troublemakers. so the ideal of zionism and all of that is not such a universally held ideal among jews as some of you may belief. as with the islamic fundamentalists, there are jewish fundamentalists- the issue is whether we judge the entire race/religion on their behavior or recognize the fact that they are a small and often resented faction. i find the idea of 9/11 being a zionist conspiracy to be somewhat far-fetched, that it might be a US government plot seems more plausible given what has been done by the US since 9/11 in thr name of anti-terrorism. on the whole, the winners from 9/11 were corporations and conservatives in the US whose agenda gained widespread support as a result of it.