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Anniversary of a Medical Tragedy

Marking the anniversary of the announcement that HIV is the probable cause of AIDS.
Today marks the 21st anniversary of the press conference where it was announced that HIV was the probable cause of AIDS. Since that fateful day, almost all discussion relating to other causes of the two original illnesses defined as AIDS have been marginalized, if not nullified.
Over the years 27 more diseases would be attributed to the effects of infection with this retrovirus. The definition of AIDS itself has also changed since then. The public has accepted all of this unquestioningly.
We've seem to have no difficulty believing the contradictory information concerning HIV and AIDS. We don't bat an eye when we're told what amazing feats this retrovirus is capable of. Worst of all, we simply don't question. Period.
It's way past time to start asking basic questions about HIV and AIDS. Here's a beginner's list.
1. What are retroviruses, and what do they do?
2. How do HIV tests work?
3. Why is there no standard to determine HIV infection?
4. How can an immune system be producing antibodies yet still be considered to be fatally crippled?
5. Why hasn't HIV been isolated according to Koch's Postulates? And why should that concern you?
6. How can Africa (a large, rurally-populated continent) be ravaged by AIDS, yet the densely-populated West (Europe and the US)isn't?
7. Exactly how does HIV go about reducing T-cell counts? The story keeps changing. Why doesn't that seem to raise a red flag?
8. How accurate are T-cell counts in determining clinical health?
9. AIDS drugs come with long lists of side-effects, many of which are the same as the symptoms of AIDS. How do you know which symptom is AIDS and which is caused by the drugs?
These are just a handful of questions. Twenty-one years have passed. It's time to start asking very basic questions.

This is ridiculous "crackpot journalism"! 23.Apr.2005 13:01


I think it's important to point out here that many (if not all) of your questions are nothing more than crackpot journalism with a dash of conspiracty theory tossed in for good measure. Speaking as a person who has worked professionally in the HIV/AIDS field for many years, there are excellent and established answers to all of your questions--if you simply go and do the research at your local library, or contact your Health Department's HIV/AIDS epidemiology program. Your questions beg the reader to presume there are no cogent answers to them which is false.

For example:

6. How can Africa (a large, rurally-populated continent) be ravaged by AIDS, yet the densely-populated West (Europe and the US)isn't?

Answer: Africa is massively different than USA/Europe in socio-economic and cultural aspects. In Africa people are hugely afraid of admitting they are infected and often keep it a secret up to death. Obviously people there are also lacking basic health services throughout Africa, hence far higher AIDS morbidity. I mean, is this really even a question worth revisiting? No, it's not like most of your other questions. The answers are so obvious!

3. Why is there no standard to determine HIV infection?

Answer: well, in fact there are standards if you simply look for them. Blood is drawn to see if you have the HIV antibody. If you are positive this takes approximately 3 months to incubate in your bloodstream. Again, you act as if there are no standards when in fact there are standards being administered worldwide. What do you think healthcare professionals talk about at world AIDS conferences in Geneva, Barcelona, and Dafur over the past several years? Again, you pose irrelevant questions that have obvious answers to any person even remotely informed about HIV/AIDS.

Your questions imply some underlying conspiracy where there really is not. Rather, there are millions of healthcare professionals worldwide struggling to contain this disease and establish a cure. Further, these people are not wasting time on absurd "conspiracy theories", but rather are working hard to find cures and to relieve the immense suffering people are going through due to this pandemic.


African AIDS epidemic a myth 23.Apr.2005 13:18


"Unlike the West, AIDS in Africa is diagnosed without any laboratory tests. Patients are classified as AIDS cases without laboratory proof that they have either immunodeficiency or HIV infection. All that is required is to have various clinical conditions. But the conditions accepted as forming the "S"(syndrome) of "AIDS" in Africa bear no relationship to AIDS in the West. In the West, AIDS is diagnosed if a person has one or more of approximately 27 relatively rare diseases.

"However in Africa, AIDS is diagnosed according to the World Health Organization's 1986/87 Bangui" definitions that can best be described as a collage of common non-specific symptoms, such as cough, fever, diarrhea, tuberculosis (TB) and a cancer called Kaposi's sarcoma. Every one of these diseases have been endemic in Africa for generations."

see:  http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/epvtafrica.htm

Agree to disagree 23.Apr.2005 14:01


these questions are boringly simple and basic. "How do AIDS tests work?" Pretty basic question. "What are retroviruses and what do they do?" Same thing, just a very basic question. You'll notice that I don't try to lead anybody with either of these questions. Do the homework for yourself. I could have posted links to a number of websites that answer these questions. I'd much rather have the reader do the searching for themselves. These are very good questions that haven't been answered in more than 20 years.
You really don't do a very good job of explaining AIDS in Africa. Shame? Is that what you're trying to say? You avoid the basic thrust of the question...why on such a large continent with few dense population centers can a sexually-transmitted microbe do such devastation? Why, in the densely-populated West are we NOT "ravaged" by AIDS?
You're next explanation is even more lightweight. I ask for a (one) standard. Not STANDARDS. There is no standard for diagnosing HIV infection. There are five different sets of criteria for an HIV Western Blot in the US alone. Other countries have distinctly different criteria for what constitutues a "reactive" Western Blot. Is this what you mean by "standards"? Yes, then you're correct...there are PLENTY of "standards" for determining HIV infection. The weakest of them all is in...you guessed it, Africa! Hmmm.

GREAT POST - 'AIDS' is such a scam 23.Apr.2005 14:07

Vivian Stamp


The multi-billion dollar AIDS/HIV fraud is based on two fabrications: that AIDS is a single disease and that it is caused by the HI virus or the "HIV virus" as some medical/media masterminds call it - perhaps they think the V in HIV stands for volcano.

In Japan "AIDS" is virtually unknown : yet, in random tests, 25% of people were found to be "HIV-positive".
HIV-positive response means nothing of any relevance to health: it can be triggered by vaccination, malnutrition, M.S., measles, influenza,
papilloma virus wart, Epstein Barr virus, leprosy, glandular fever, hepatitis, syphillis ... : over sixty different conditions.

Dr Robert E. Willner, inoculated himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, a HIV-positive haemophiliac, on live Spanish television: an event which was not picked up the pharma-beholden British or US media.

The great HIV/AIDS lie was created by Robert Gallo who was found guilty of "scientific misconduct". "...instead of trying to prove his insane theories about AIDS to his peers...he went public. Then, with the help of
Margaret Heckler, former head of Health and Human Services, who was under great political pressure to come up with an answer to AIDS, the infamous
world press announcement of the discovery of the so-called AIDS virus came about.

This great fraud is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands... It was no accident that Gallo just happened to patent the test for HIV the day after the announcement...Gallo is now a multi-millionaire because of AIDS and his fraudulent AIDS test." Dr.

By grouping together 25-plus different diseases and other allied factors -
pneumonia, herpes, candidiasis, salmonella, various cancers, infections, vaccine and antibiotic damage, amyl nitrate damage, malnutrition etc.and,
particularly in Africa, TB, malaria, dysentery leprosy and "slim disease" - and calling the whole thing an "AIDS epidemic", a multi-billion dollar/pound "AIDS research and treatment" racket has been created.

The mythical "HIV-induced AIDS plague" in the Third World generates huge sums of cash from Western relief organisations whilst smokescreening the
vaccine/drug boys, responsible for the carnage.

Every death of someone "HIV-positive" is recorded as an "AIDS death".

Periodically, the BBC/ITV/Press visit
Africa/Yugoslavia/Russia etc to
report on the "HIV/AIDS victims" and how they cannot afford the "life-saving AZT." Glaxo Wellcome's lethal drug, AZT, in combination with the diagnosis of
HIV-positive and the prediction, stated or implied, that - "You will die of AIDS" is one of the great pieces of Medical Black Magic - Voodoo Medicine at its most impressive: people have committed suicide on the
basis of the ludicrous diagnosis.

Pregnant women who are HIV-positive have been told to stop breast-feeding, dosed with AZT, have had abortions or have been sterilised. HIV-positive
babies who become ill -from vaccination or whatever - are automatically diagnosed as "suffering from AIDS".
"Considering that there is little scientific proof of the exact linkage of HIV and AIDS, is it ethical to prescribe AZT, a toxic chain terminator of DNA...to 150,000 Americans - among them pregnant women and newborn babies..? Rep.G Gutknecht US House of Representatives.

New Labour "Health" have now announced that all pregnant women in the UK will be "offered" a HIV test. Those who fall for the scam and who are diagnosed as "HIV positive" will be given the chance to have themselves and their unborn child permanently damaged by AZT etc. Pregnancy, itself, can cause a positive diagnosis.

AZT began as a "cancer drug" but was withdrawn for being too toxic: like being thrown out of the Gestapo for cruelty. Its effects include - cancer, hepatitis, dementia, seizures, anxiety, impotence, leukopaenia, , severe
nausea, ataxia, etc. and the termination of DNA synthesis. i.e. AIDS/death by prescription. AZT eventually kills all those who continue to take it.

"WARNING : Retrovir (AZT)...has been associated with symptomatic myopathy, similar to that produced by Human Immunodeficiency Virus..." Glaxo
Wellcome literature!

None of which stops the medical trade from pushing it on every trusting sap who is not ill to start with but is labelled with the "HIV-positive" nonsense and then destroyed by AZT; with "AIDS" getting the blame - and
more billions pouring in for the drug boys, vivisectors, animal breeders and the rest. The latest stunt is to give a "cocktail" of drugs - including AZT, of course, and at £12,000 per head, per year - to all homosexual men who are "HIV-positive".

A particularly good scam is to haul into court someone "guilty of deliberately infecting the victim with the 'HIV-Virus which causes AIDS' " which then develops into "full-blown AIDS" - no mention of vaccine,
antibiotic damage etc or full-blown AZT. Over 2000 - and rising, of the world's scientists are now disputing the HIV hoax, their efforts being continually suppressed by the AIDS establishment, the pharmaceutical/vivisection syndicate and their political and media lackeys

Poverty and 'AIDS' - No connection? 23.Apr.2005 14:34

Paul King

Poverty and 'AIDS' - No connection?


Florida: Urban 23% All 20%
New York: Urban 20% All 19%
Calif: Urban 19% All 19%


Vermont: Urban 8% All 10,5%
New Hampshire: Urban 8.5% All 8.5%


Florida: Number 3
New York: Number 1
California: Number 2


Vermont: Number 47
New Hampshire: Number 44

So do you really think there is no connection between so called 'AIDS' and poverty in America?

Immune suppression is caused mainly by poverty NOT some wonder virus.

Source: -  http://www.statehealthfacts.org

I'm with you 23.Apr.2005 15:06


Nothing about the aids thing seem to make too much sense.

23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor 23.Apr.2005 15:35

Hugo Webber

On the 23rd April 1984 on a press conference in Washington, Dr. Robert Gallo proclaimed to the world, that he had discovered HIV the probable cause for AIDS. To mark this day, many AIDS-CRITICS worldwide will make the the 23rd April a DAY of ACTION and voice CRITIC about the "HIV causes AIDS" theory...

please add YOUR COMMENTS and forward to relevant newspapers...

23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

Dear Editor,

On the 23rd April 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo declared on a press conference in Washington, that he had discovered a Virus (HTLV-III lateron to renamed as HIV) the probable cause for AIDS.

During these 21 years gone, billions of Dollars have been spend on
scientific research to find a vaccine or a cure. So far with no adequate result.

So wouldn´t it be time perhaps to apply the same principles of
"controlling" as in any other industry? Isn't the time ripe for some
kind of rethinking with regards to the whole "HIV causes AIDS" theory?

Furtheron, there is a growing number of critical doctors, scientists and politicians to the rather onesided views that have been published about the aids pandemic.

This letter would be tooo long to go into detail on all the different aspects, that critical scientists have pointed out, but the main points of aids criticism are:

So far HIV has NOT fulfilled the "Koch postulates" (The worldwide
excepted criteria to prove that a microbe is the cause for an illness, developed over a hundred years ago by the german scientist Robert Koch)

HIV has not been isolated from other body cell material.

There is no electromagnetic photo of HIV available. What has been
published many times are either computer animations or photos from cell material with no specifics as requested by strict scientific rules.

In view of the development over the last 21 years, wouldn´t it be a
responsibility from the media to inform the general public about these concerns?

How come, that there are discussions accepted about complementary
therapies when someone has high blood pressure, a heart attack or even cancer, while the "HIV causes AIDS" theory seems to be repeated again and again almost like a religious dogma and people who question this are labelled "dissidents" "denialists" "communists" "new age thinkers" "flat earthers" or even "nazi's".

Fact of the matter is, that there are over 2000 scientists worldwide who have voiced aids critical opinions. This list includes highly acclaimed scientists and nobel price winners like Prof. Kary Mullis.

More and more people who have been diagnosed HIV+ refuse to take the so called "aids cocktails" because there are reports that these are highly toxic and resort to a healthy lifestyle combined with a mixture of natural remedies and other complementary methods.

Furtheron there are over 9000 signatures from people worldwide, who have signed the petition of truth initiated by President Thabo Mbeki from South Africa.

There are hundreds of websites where one can read some of the critical comments about HIV and AIDS.

There are millions of results, if one enters any of the aids-critics

So my main question is: "Why are the mainstream media outlets sooo
reluctant to publish anything to do with "AIDS CRITICISM" ?

Could it be true, that the pressure from pharmaceutical companies to
reduce advertising is so much bigger, then the often resorted terms of
"democratic flow of information" "free speech" and the "freedom of
opinion" as practised with most parts of reporting about a given topic.

We, the growing number of aids-critical people worldwide will make the 23rd April 2005 the first "DAY of ACTION" and will voice our criticism about the various aspects of the "HIV causes AIDS" theory and the consequences individually and socially.

The main scientific event on the 23rd April 2005 is the 2 day seminar "EL SIDA SI SE CURA" in Peru under the medical leadership from Dr. Roberto Giraldo. Please support that event, because there will be widespread medical repercussions, at least for most of South America... Please take also into consideration, that there are not many events that have taken place as big as the one in Peru, where critical scientific opinions are voiced by TOP doctors and scientists...

Please publish something about the AIDS CRITICS DAY on 23rd April 2005.

Thanking you for your support.

Kind Regards

Hugo Webber
Information and Communications Officer
 http://www.think-fitness.de / team

please see relevant weblinks here >>

23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY

What can YOU do on 23rd April = CRITICAL AIDS DAY?

Dia Critico del SIDA

Over 2000 have doctors, scientists and concerned people signed the
petition to support "The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the
HIV-AIDS Hypothesis"

IS "HIV" REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS? a few hundred aids quotes

Over 2000 people on the list from Alberta Reappraising Aids Society

Over 9000 people have signed the Petition to support President Thabo
Mbeki / South Africa

More quotes and links from AIDS-Critics

Top 100 AIDS Science Inconsistencies

forums from aids critical people, to show you, that all the above is not
just plain theory, but an ever growing number of concerned people
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view. When will YOU join us?

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Simple questions about a crackpot theory 23.Apr.2005 15:48

Wilhelm Godschalk wgods@xs4all.nl


As far as I can see, nobody has presented any crackpot conspiracy theories here, to whuch you alluded. All 'Questning AIDS' did was ask a few basic, simple questions. So if you have worked for years in the AIDS field, WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER THEM?
Actually, these questions, for most part have been asked for 20 years now. Instead of answering them, the professional (=paid) AIDS establishment accuses the critics now, after all these years that they keep on asking the same questions. It is the government, using Robert Gallo as an instrument that has presented a crackpot theory. Now let them prove it. In case anybody forgot, that's what science is all about.

"Again, you pose irrelevant questions that have obvious answers to any person even remotely informed about HIV/AIDS. "...

???? The questions look very relevant to me. If the answers are so obvious, why don't you state them again, for clarity. It seems that these answers, if they have been given at any time, have been completely hidden from most of us.

Africa is indeed quite different from America or Europe. Almost all people are black there, and all are perfectly suitable to be used as guinea pigs for clinical trials of new drugs. But I'm still curious how this postulated virus, 'HIV' knows how to discriminate in the U.S., where it only affects gay men and heavy drug users. A bigot virus?

I just finished another crazy article in the molecular genetics field. Only at the very end, there is the acknowledgement that the work was funded by the Burroughs Welcome Fund. I think that tells the whole story.

The REAL crackpot theory is 'AIDS' 23.Apr.2005 16:45

Paul King

Suddenly out of the blue sky 29 old diseases that have existed for centuries were lumped together and named 'AIDS.

No scientific review of the 'study' presented by Robert Gallo.

Just a press conference.

That so called 'study' remain unpublished and unavailable to anyone.

Even Nobel Prize winner K. Mullis, failed in his attempts to see it.

Talk about a crackpot theory.

'AIDS' fits the bill.


Gallo. Con man and profiteer
Gallo. Con man and profiteer

what next? holocaust denial? 23.Apr.2005 21:49


from  http://www.niaid.nih.gov/Factsheets/evidhiv.htm

MYTH: HIV antibody testing is unreliable.

FACT: Diagnosis of infection using antibody testing is one of the best-established concepts in medicine. HIV antibody tests exceed the performance of most other infectious disease tests in both sensitivity (the ability of the screening test to give a positive finding when the person tested truly has the disease ) and specificity (the ability of the test to give a negative finding when the subjects tested are free of the disease under study). Current HIV antibody tests have sensitivity and specificity in excess of 98% and are therefore extremely reliable (WHO, 1998; Sloand et al. JAMA 1991;266:2861).

Progress in testing methodology has also enabled detection of viral genetic material, antigens and the virus itself in body fluids and cells. While not widely used for routine testing due to high cost and requirements in laboratory equipment, these direct testing techniques have confirmed the validity of the antibody tests (Jackson et al. J Clin Microbiol 1990;28:16; Busch et al. NEJM 1991;325:1; Silvester et al. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol 1995;8:411; Urassa et al. J Clin Virol 1999;14:25; Nkengasong et al. AIDS 1999;13:109; Samdal et al. Clin Diagn Virol 1996;7:55.

MYTH: There is no AIDS in Africa. AIDS is nothing more than a new name for old diseases.

FACT: The diseases that have come to be associated with AIDS in Africa - such as wasting syndrome, diarrheal diseases and TB - have long been severe burdens there. However, high rates of mortality from these diseases, formerly confined to the elderly and malnourished, are now common among HIV-infected young and middle-aged people, including well-educated members of the middle class (UNAIDS, 2000).

For example, in a study in Cote d'Ivoire, HIV-seropositive individuals with pulmonary tuberculosis (TB) were 17 times more likely to die within six months than HIV-seronegative individuals with pulmonary TB (Ackah et al. Lancet 1995; 345:607). In Malawi, mortality over three years among children who had received recommended childhood immunizations and who survived the first year of life was 9.5 times higher among HIV-seropositive children than among HIV-seronegative children. The leading causes of death were wasting and respiratory conditions (Taha et al. Pediatr Infect Dis J 1999;18:689). Elsewhere in Africa, findings are similar.

MYTH: HIV cannot be the cause of AIDS because researchers are unable to explain precisely how HIV destroys the immune system.

FACT: A great deal is known about the pathogenesis of HIV disease, even though important details remain to be elucidated. However, a complete understanding of the pathogenesis of a disease is not a prerequisite to knowing its cause. Most infectious agents have been associated with the disease they cause long before their pathogenic mechanisms have been discovered. Because research in pathogenesis is difficult when precise animal models are unavailable, the disease-causing mechanisms in many diseases, including tuberculosis and hepatitis B, are poorly understood. The critics' reasoning would lead to the conclusion that M. tuberculosis is not the cause of tuberculosis or that hepatitis B virus is not a cause of liver disease (Evans. Yale J Biol Med 1982;55:193).

MYTH: AZT and other antiretroviral drugs, not HIV, cause AIDS.

FACT: The vast majority of people with AIDS never received antiretroviral drugs, including those in developed countries prior to the licensure of AZT in 1987, and people in developing countries today where very few individuals have access to these medications (UNAIDS, 2000).

As with medications for any serious diseases, antiretroviral drugs can have toxic side effects. However, there is no evidence that antiretroviral drugs cause the severe immunosuppression that typifies AIDS, and abundant evidence that antiretroviral therapy, when used according to established guidelines, can improve the length and quality of life of HIV-infected individuals.

In the 1980s, clinical trials enrolling patients with AIDS found that AZT given as single-drug therapy conferred a modest (and short-lived) survival advantage compared to placebo. Among HIV-infected patients who had not yet developed AIDS, placebo-controlled trials found that AZT given as single-drug therapy delayed, for a year or two, the onset of AIDS-related illnesses. Significantly, long-term follow-up of these trials did not show a prolonged benefit of AZT, but also never indicated that the drug increased disease progression or mortality. The lack of excess AIDS cases and death in the AZT arms of these placebo-controlled trials effectively counters the argument that AZT causes AIDS (NIAID, 1995).

Subsequent clinical trials found that patients receiving two-drug combinations had up to 50 percent increases in time to progression to AIDS and in survival when compared to people receiving single-drug therapy. In more recent years, three-drug combination therapies have produced another 50 percent to 80 percent improvements in progression to AIDS and in survival when compared to two-drug regimens in clinical trials (HHS, 2004). Use of potent anti-HIV combination therapies has contributed to dramatic reductions in the incidence of AIDS and AIDS-related deaths in populations where these drugs are widely available, an effect which clearly would not be seen if antiretroviral drugs caused AIDS (Figure 1; CDC. HIV AIDS Surveillance Report 1999;11[2]:1; Palella et al. NEJM 1998;338:853; Mocroft et al. Lancet 1998;352:1725; Mocroft et al. Lancet 2000;356:291; Vittinghoff et al. J Infect Dis 1999;179:717; Detels et al. JAMA 1998;280:1497; de Martino et al. JAMA 2000;284:190; CASCADE Collaboration. Lancet 2000;355:1158; Hogg et al. CMAJ 1999;160:659; Schwarcz et al. Am J Epidemiol 2000;152:178; Kaplan et al. Clin Infect Dis 2000;30:S5; McNaghten et al. AIDS 1999;13:1687).

MYTH: Behavioral factors such as recreational drug use and multiple sexual partners account for AIDS.

FACT: The proposed behavioral causes of AIDS, such as multiple sexual partners and long-term recreational drug use, have existed for many years. The epidemic of AIDS, characterized by the occurrence of formerly rare opportunistic infections such as Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP) did not occur in the United States until a previously unknown human retrovirus - HIV - spread through certain communities (NIAID, 1995a; NIAID, 1995b).

Compelling evidence against the hypothesis that behavioral factors cause AIDS comes from recent studies that have followed cohorts of homosexual men for long periods of time and found that only HIV-seropositive men develop AIDS.

For example, in a prospectively studied cohort in Vancouver, 715 homosexual men were followed for a median of 8.6 years. Among 365 HIV-positive individuals, 136 developed AIDS. No AIDS-defining illnesses occurred among 350 seronegative men despite the fact that these men reported appreciable use of inhalable nitrites ("poppers") and other recreational drugs, and frequent receptive anal intercourse (Schechter et al. Lancet 1993;341:658).

Other studies show that among homosexual men and injection-drug users, the specific immune deficit that leads to AIDS - a progressive and sustained loss of CD4+ T cells - is extremely rare in the absence of other immunosuppressive conditions. For example, in the Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study, more than 22,000 T-cell determinations in 2,713 HIV-seronegative homosexual men revealed only one individual with a CD4+ T-cell count persistently lower than 300 cells/mm3 of blood, and this individual was receiving immunosuppressive therapy (Vermund et al. NEJM 1993;328:442).

In a survey of 229 HIV-seronegative injection-drug users in New York City, mean CD4+ T-cell counts of the group were consistently more than 1000 cells/mm3 of blood. Only two individuals had two CD4+ T-cell measurements of less than 300/mm3 of blood, one of whom died with cardiac disease and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma listed as the cause of death (Des Jarlais et al. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr 1993;6:820).

MYTH: AIDS among transfusion recipients is due to underlying diseases that necessitated the transfusion, rather than to HIV.

FACT: This notion is contradicted by a report by the Transfusion Safety Study Group (TSSG), which compared HIV-negative and HIV-positive blood recipients who had been given transfusions for similar diseases. Approximately 3 years after the transfusion, the mean CD4+ T-cell count in 64 HIV-negative recipients was 850/mm3 of blood, while 111 HIV-seropositive individuals had average CD4+ T-cell counts of 375/mm3 of blood. By 1993, there were 37 cases of AIDS in the HIV-infected group, but not a single AIDS-defining illness in the HIV-seronegative transfusion recipients (Donegan et al. Ann Intern Med 1990;113:733; Cohen. Science 1994;266:1645).

MYTH: High usage of clotting factor concentrate, not HIV, leads to CD4+ T-cell depletion and AIDS in hemophiliacs.

FACT: This view is contradicted by many studies. For example, among HIV-seronegative patients with hemophilia A enrolled in the Transfusion Safety Study, no significant differences in CD4+ T-cell counts were noted between 79 patients with no or minimal factor treatment and 52 with the largest amount of lifetime treatments. Patients in both groups had CD4+ T cell-counts within the normal range (Hasset et al. Blood 1993;82:1351). In another report from the Transfusion Safety Study, no instances of AIDS-defining illnesses were seen among 402 HIV-seronegative hemophiliacs who had received factor therapy (Aledort et al. NEJM 1993;328:1128).

In a cohort in the United Kingdom, researchers matched 17 HIV-seropositive hemophiliacs with 17 HIV-seronegative hemophiliacs with regard to clotting factor concentrate usage over a ten-year period. During this time, 16 AIDS-defining clinical events occurred in 9 patients, all of whom were HIV-seropositive. No AIDS-defining illnesses occurred among the HIV-negative patients. In each pair, the mean CD4+ T cell count during follow-up was, on average, 500 cells/mm3 lower in the HIV-seropositive patient (Sabin et al. BMJ 1996;312:207).

Among HIV-infected hemophiliacs, Transfusion Safety Study investigators found that neither the purity nor the amount of Factor VIII therapy had a deleterious effect on CD4+ T cell counts (Gjerset et al., Blood 1994;84:1666). Similarly, the Multicenter Hemophilia Cohort Study found no association between the cumulative dose of plasma concentrate and incidence of AIDS among HIV-infected hemophiliacs (Goedert et al. NEJM 1989;321:1141.).

MYTH: The distribution of AIDS cases casts doubt on HIV as the cause. Viruses are not gender-specific, yet only a small proportion of AIDS cases are among women.

FACT: The distribution of AIDS cases, whether in the United States or elsewhere in the world, invariably mirrors the prevalence of HIV in a population. In the United States, HIV first appeared in populations of homosexual men and injection-drug users, a majority of whom are male. Because HIV is spread primarily through sex or by the exchange of HIV-contaminated needles during injection-drug use, it is not surprising that a majority of U.S. AIDS cases have occurred in men (U.S. Census Bureau, 1999; UNAIDS, 2000).

Increasingly, however, women in the United States are becoming HIV-infected, usually through the exchange of HIV-contaminated needles or sex with an HIV-infected male. The CDC estimates that 30 percent of new HIV infections in the United States in 1998 were in women. As the number of HIV-infected women has risen, so too has the number of female AIDS patients in the United States. Approximately 23 percent of U.S. adult/adolescent AIDS cases reported to the CDC in 1998 were among women. In 1998, AIDS was the fifth leading cause of death among women aged 25 to 44 in the United States, and the third leading cause of death among African-American women in that age group (NIAID Fact Sheet: HIV/AIDS Statistics).

In Africa, HIV was first recognized in sexually active heterosexuals, and AIDS cases in Africa have occurred at least as frequently in women as in men. Overall, the worldwide distribution of HIV infection and AIDS between men and women is approximately 1 to 1 (U.S. Census Bureau, 1999; UNAIDS, 2000).

MYTH: HIV cannot be the cause of AIDS because the body develops a vigorous antibody response to the virus.

FACT: This reasoning ignores numerous examples of viruses other than HIV that can be pathogenic after evidence of immunity appears. Measles virus may persist for years in brain cells, eventually causing a chronic neurologic disease despite the presence of antibodies. Viruses such as cytomegalovirus, herpes simplex and varicella zoster may be activated after years of latency even in the presence of abundant antibodies. In animals, viral relatives of HIV with long and variable latency periods, such as visna virus in sheep, cause central nervous system damage even after the production of antibodies (NIAID, 1995).

Also, HIV is well recognized as being able to mutate to avoid the ongoing immune response of the host (Levy. Microbiol Rev 1993;57:183).

MYTH: Only a small number of CD4+ T cells are infected by HIV, not enough to damage the immune system.

FACT: New techniques such as the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) have enabled scientists to demonstrate that a much larger proportion of CD4+ T cells are infected than previously realized, particularly in lymphoid tissues. Macrophages and other cell types are also infected with HIV and serve as reservoirs for the virus. Although the fraction of CD4+ T cells that is infected with HIV at any given time is never extremely high (only a small subset of activated cells serve as ideal targets of infection), several groups have shown that rapid cycles of death of infected cells and infection of new target cells occur throughout the course of disease (Richman J Clin Invest 2000;105:565).

MYTH: HIV is not the cause of AIDS because many individuals with HIV have not developed AIDS.

FACT: HIV disease has a prolonged and variable course. The median period of time between infection with HIV and the onset of clinically apparent disease is approximately 10 years in industrialized countries, according to prospective studies of homosexual men in which dates of seroconversion are known. Similar estimates of asymptomatic periods have been made for HIV-infected blood-transfusion recipients, injection-drug users and adult hemophiliacs (Alcabes et al. Epidemiol Rev 1993;15:303).

As with many diseases, a number of factors can influence the course of HIV disease. Factors such as age or genetic differences between individuals, the level of virulence of the individual strain of virus, as well as exogenous influences such as co-infection with other microbes may determine the rate and severity of HIV disease expression. Similarly, some people infected with hepatitis B, for example, show no symptoms or only jaundice and clear their infection, while others suffer disease ranging from chronic liver inflammation to cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma. Co-factors probably also determine why some smokers develop lung cancer while others do not (Evans. Yale J Biol Med 1982;55:193; Levy. Microbiol Rev 1993;57:183; Fauci. Nature 1996;384:529).

MYTH: Some people have many symptoms associated with AIDS but do not have HIV infection.

FACT: Most AIDS symptoms result from the development of opportunistic infections and cancers associated with severe immunosuppression secondary to HIV.

However, immunosuppression has many other potential causes. Individuals who take glucocorticoids and/or immunosuppressive drugs to prevent transplant rejection or for autoimmune diseases can have increased susceptibility to unusual infections, as do individuals with certain genetic conditions, severe malnutrition and certain kinds of cancers. There is no evidence suggesting that the numbers of such cases have risen, while abundant epidemiologic evidence shows a staggering rise in cases of immunosuppression among individuals who share one characteristic: HIV infection (NIAID, 1995; UNAIDS, 2000).

MYTH: The spectrum of AIDS-related infections seen in different populations proves that AIDS is actually many diseases not caused by HIV.

FACT: The diseases associated with AIDS, such as PCP and Mycobacterium avium complex (MAC), are not caused by HIV but rather result from the immunosuppression caused by HIV disease. As the immune system of an HIV-infected individual weakens, he or she becomes susceptible to the particular viral, fungal and bacterial infections common in the community. For example, HIV-infected people in certain midwestern and mid-Atlantic regions are much more likely than people in New York City to develop histoplasmosis, which is caused by a fungus. A person in Africa is exposed to different pathogens than is an individual in an American city. Children may be exposed to different infectious agents than adults (USPHS/IDSA, 2001).


Paul King


Hidden Facts and Dangers of HIV Tests
What's in the Fine Print

Remarkable information about HIV tests including the fact that no HIV test has ever been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for the actual diagnosing of HIV infection.
Few doctors, clinics, journalists, or AIDS organizations know that all current HIV tests are approved only as screening tests, prognostic tests (for predicting a possible future outcome) or as "an aid in diagnosis" and are not intended to be used for determining if a person actually has HIV.

The FDA's lack of such approval speaks to the fact that no HIV test can directly detect or quantify HIV or determine the presence of specific HIV antibodies in human blood.
Recent changes in the fine print of the test kits acknowledge this little known data and seem to indicate a change of thought with regard to the role of HIV in AIDS.

From 1984 until last year, test literature contained the very certain statement that "AIDS is CAUSED by HIV." Then in November of 2002, a new test kit started what now seems to be a trend toward rethinking the causal link between HIV and AIDS. It states, "AIDS, AIDS related complex and pre-AIDS

are THOUGHT TO BE CAUSED by HIV." (OraQuick Rapid HIV-1 Antibody Test, OraSure Technologies, Inc)
Now it appears we've gone from "HIV is thought to cause AIDS," to something even more uncertain: "Published data indicate A STRONG CORRELATION between the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) and a retrovirus REFERRED TO as Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)."

This last quote is found in the package insert for a new ELISA test (Vironostika HIV-1 Plus O Microelisa System) the FDA approved in June 2003.

The entire package insert can be downloaded from

According to Alive & Well advisor Dr Rodney Richards, a chemist and co-creator of the very first HIV test, as of June 2003, the number of FDA approved tests that contain the term HIV or LAV (the old school term for the so-called virus) have risen to 36. Of these, 13 have been approved in just the last three years.
Richards points out that "despite the increased number of HIV tests, there is still no manufacturer that claims their test can be used to diagnose infection with HIV. All of the RNA based tests for viral load and genotyping clearly state they are 'NOT intended for use in diagnosing HIV infection.'

Instead of an indication for use in detecting or quantifying the actual virus, these tests are approved only for prognosis or monitoring therapy for people who doctors assume are infected.?

Richards is working on a document to clarify what HIV test
manufacturers mean by the terms "prognosis," "monitoring of therapy," and "aid in the diagnosis of HIV." His report will focus on what the tests cannot do (diagnose HIV infection) and what exactly they can.
At first glance, the rapid tests may appear relatively benign since the manufacturers clearly emphasize that "preliminary positives" must be confirmed with follow up testing. This emphasis is due to the fact that the accuracy of the rapid tests? is widely known to be more questionable than the already dubious HIV ELISA or Western Blot. But the notion that
medical personnel will await confirmation of results before insisting patients take action is entirely misguided since the true market for rapid tests is pregnant women in labor
Incredibly, the recommendation to misuse rapid tests for women in labor comes directly from the Deputy Commissioner of the FDA himself, Dr. Lester M Crawford. The good doctor says "OraQuick will be a great help in identifying pregnant HIV-infected women going into labor who were not tested during pregnancy so that precautionary steps can be taken to block their newborns from being infected with HIV." (FDA News, November 7, 2002)

These precautionary steps include IV infusion of the toxic chemotherapy AZT during labor, C-section delivery, six weeks of mandatory AZT treatment for the baby regardless of their own HIV status, and orders to the mother not to breastfeed. Even though chemotherapy, surgery and denial of normal
feeding are based on preliminary results from a test never approved for detecting HIV infection, a mother who declines such intervention risks losing custody of her child.

Perhaps more remarkable than official calls for misuse of rapid tests is a disclosure by the manufacturer of the OraQuick that 7% of women with a history of prior pregnancy will score falsely positive on their test. Further, the manufacturer of the newly approved Reveal test didn't even evaluate their product in multiparous women.
Worse still, as Dr Richards points out, the rapid tests may soon be routinely administered to women tested negative before labor. "Based on the erroneous belief these tests can actually diagnose HIV infection, doctors may want to retest women in labor who?ve previously come up negative just to
be sure they haven't seroconverted in the mean time."

Another lucrative market for the rapid tests is among healthcare workers who experience accidental needle sticks or other unintentional contact with patient fluids. As Richard points out, this opens a Pandora?s box of potential life-altering situations.
"Imagine a nurse sticks herself with a used needle. Ora-Sure gives her the impression she can find out quickly if that needle is contaminated with HIV. Should the needle score positive, she would then be urged to start prophylactic chemotherapy right away. Of course, if the needle scores positive, hospitals would most likely feel an ethical responsibility to
inform the patient and to urge them to also start 'saving their lives' with AIDS meds. Since there are 600,000 to 1,000,000 accidental needles sticks in the US annually, this is a huge market for both the test and treatment manufacturers."

The great influence of drug and test manufacturers on public health policy, media presentations and among AIDS activist groups may mean that the hidden dangers of rapid tests will remain unknown.


Why people live longer now
To address the claim "that the new meds extends (sic) many of the lives who are hiv+ or have aids", one need look no further than that bastion of orthodox "AIDS" think, The Journal of the Acquired Immune Deficiency
Syndromes and Human Retrovirology. Publishing their data in 1997, orthodox "AIDS" researchers claimed that "combination antiretroviral therapy with protease inhibitors clearly improves survival", yet they also state that their own analysis showed "that San Francisco would have experienced a significant decline in AIDS cases, due to the
decrease in HIV seroconversions, even if combination antiretroviral therapy had not been developed." (J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol 1997, 16(3):182-189.)

The changed definition of AIDS is also a major factor. For further verification the 1993 revision of the definition of "AIDS" skewing survival data, please click on  http://healtoronto.com/rrsurvival.html
In short, when the changing definition of "AIDS" (see the CDC's MMWR 1992; 41:1-19) was compared to the old pre-1993 version of the definition in which people were diagnosed SOLELY upon clinical considerations (i.e. ACTUAL sicknesses), researchers found, lo and behold, an increase in survival of almost 2.5 times just by controlling for the revised definition! They published their findings in the VERY mainstream Journal of the
American Medical Association in 1994 (Vella S, et al. JAMA 1994; 271:1197-9).

So much for making "AIDS" a "managed disease" through "better" medications!



The 10-year Padian study observed sexually active
couples in which one partner was HIV positive. The result: in 10 years, not one uninfected partner contracted HIV, even though all participants admitted to having sex without condoms. The study states, 'We followed up 175 HIV-discordant couples over time, for a total of approximately 282 couple-years of follow up. The longest duration of follow-up was 12 visits (6 years).

We observed no seroconversion [infection] after entry into the
study." In the three-year Stewart study (1985) not one male partner of HIV-positive women contracted HIV. Prostitution is not even listed as an HIV risk category by the CDC, because of the extremely low incidence of HIV transmission to clients who have no other risk factors (i.e. drug abuse).

These findings bolster the hypothesis of some AIDS scientists that chronic malnutrition and other environmental factors, and not a sexually-transmitted virus, are the causes of weakened immunity in people diagnosed with one of the nearly 30 AIDS-defining diseases (which vary from country to country).


Every epidemic disease is now renamed 'AIDS' under the Bangui Definition.
Mortalities (non natural) in S.A. remain at the same 2.2% P.A. that they were BEFORE AIDS. Either every other disease in the region vanished overnight or 'AIDS' is simply the old diseases with a new name. You decide.


In Africa, the continent supposedly being decimated by
HIV, HIV tests are rarely ever done, so there the idea
that all patients with AIDS are infected with HIV is
based entirely on supposition.

At a WHO conference in the Central African Republic in 1985, U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) introduced the "Bangui Definition" of AIDS in Africa.
The CDC officials later explained, "The definition was reached by consensus, based mostly on the delegates' experience in treating AIDS patients. It has proven a useful tool in determining the extent of the AIDS epidemic in Africa, especially in areas where no testing is available.

It's major components were prolonged fevers (for a month or more), weight loss of 10% or greater, and prolonged diarrhea..."(McCormick, 1996). Where AIDS is diagnosed clinically, large numbers of AIDS patients test negative for HIV. As no HIV testing is required in Africa we have no idea how many AIDS cases there are HIV positive (De ####, 1991; Gilks, 1991; Widy-Wirski, 1988).

Other conditions common in underprivileged and
impoverished communities that are known to cause false
positive results are tuberculosis, malaria, hepatitis and leprosy (Burke, 1993; Challakeree, 1993; Johnson, 1998; Kashala, 1994; MacKenzie,1992; Meyer, 1987). In fact, these are the primary health threats in Africa; several million cases of tuberculosis and malaria are reported in Africa each year - more than all the AIDS cases reported in Africa since 1982 (WHO, 1998)*.


CAUCASIAN TEEN 'AIDS' CASES (entire USA) BETWEEN July 1983 and December 2001 = 1211 (male and female).
Source: - CDC

TWELVE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN in nearly 18 years or a mere 67 cases a year.
That figure of 1.28 cases per State is lower than gun shotdeaths in the Mac Arthur Park area of Los Angeles in a single month.

Check for yourself (don't take our word for it) at: -  http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1302/table7.htm

In the same period people over 60 (caucasian) had 9,338 cases.
Those old folks must be sex mad - Nine times MORE sex than teenagers.
....or could it just be that 'AIDS' is not an std? Surely not? God forbid! Perish the thought!

A BRIEF HISTORY OF AIDS 24.Apr.2005 00:10



In the early 80's, doctors started seeing more and more people with suppressed immune systems coming into emergency rooms with several opportunistic infections. These were primarily gay men and intravenous drug users. There was
panic within the gay community and in the general population as more and more people began dying of what was called AIDS: Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.

In 1984, Robert Gallo, a research scientist working for the National Institute of Health (NIH), announced in a press conference that he had discovered the probable cause of AIDS, and that it was a retrovirus later called HIV: Human
Immunodeficiency Virus. Without having published his findings for peer review he announced this to the press. The media immediately ran with it, and people began demanding funding into research into HIV, all based on the assumption that
HIV is a sexually-transmitted pathogen that causes AIDS.

The gay community especially rallied and pushed for more AIDS funding and better education about 'safe sex'. In 1987 a drug called AZT was approved by the FDA for the treatment
of AIDS, and this began a multi-billion dollar industry.


HIV is a normal retrovirus. Its genetic composition does not differ very much from other retroviruses. No retrovirus has ever been shown to cause disease outside of a lab. Unlike ordinary viruses, retroviruses do not kill their host cells. Retroviruses occur naturally inside of the cells of many animals, including humans. Retroviruses are seen by many scientists to be naturally occurring parts of our cells. Retroviruses are not sexually-transmitted, but they are passed from mother to child. Retroviruses had been studied by the NIH extensively throughout the 70's in hopes that they would find a retrovirus that caused cancer. Because retroviruses do not kill cells, they were a perfect candidate for cancer, in which cells do not die but instead multiply rapidly.

Millions of dollars went into all of this research into retroviruses with nothing to show for it. Gallo himself tried to prove more than once that he had found a disease-causing retrovirus, only to be debunked by the scientific community. When AIDS appeared, Gallo and the NIH were already looking for a
disease that they could blame on a retrovirus, to justify all of their wasted funding.


HIV has never been isolated from human blood. What AIDS researchers call isolation of HIV is the finding of certain chemicals and enzymatic activity that they claim indicates the presence of HIV. They find proteins and genetic material thought to come from HIV, or they find reverse transcriptase activity.
But none of these proteins, RNA strands, or enzyme activities are unique to HIV.
What most AIDS scientists research in their labs is a lab artifact. It is HIV that is created and grown in a lab, and it is thought to be the same thing that causes AIDS when it infects people.


The test for HIV does not look for an actual virus in your blood. It looks for antibodies that will react with a set of proteins that are produced by HIV. But none of these proteins are specific to HIV. Antibodies in the blood resulting
from other conditions can cross-react with the proteins in the HIV test. Blood must be diluted before being tested for HIV. Without dilution, all blood samples would test positive for HIV because we all have some antibodies that will cross-react with the test. There are at least 66 factors that are known to
cause false positive results on an HIV test, including other infections, drug use, and receptive anal sex. Having unprotected receptive anal sex causes your body to produce antibodies in response to semen.
These antibodies to semen can cross-react with the proteins in the HIV test, producing a false positive result. In addition, people of African descent have a higher probability of
testing false positive, because they naturally have a greater variety of antibodies in their blood.


HIV tests are not standardized. This is because HIV has never been isolated from human blood, so there is no way to know how specific the tests are to HIV infection. The Food & Drug Administration (FDA) does not approve a single HIV
test for the diagnosis of HIV infection. There are a variety of tests, and the results are interpreted differently in different countries. So the same sample of blood could test positive in the United States while testing negative in Europe. Another more expensive HIV test is the viral load test. Viral load
testing makes use of PCR: polymerase chain reaction. It takes a very small amount of genetic material and makes enough copies of it that you can detect it.
Dr. Kary Mullis, who won a Nobel prize for inventing PCR, is among the scientists who say that HIV does not cause AIDS. He claims that viral load testing is a misuse of PCR. PCR does not find isolated virus in the blood. It finds pieces of RNA strands thought to belong to HIV.


Usually, if you test positive for antibodies that means that your immune system has effectively fought off a pathogen and you now have immunity. But with the HIV test, the logic is reversed. Instead of meaning that you now have immunity to HIV, testing positive is said to mean that you are infected and your immune
system has failed to neutralize the virus. The great hope for many who believe that HIV causes AIDS is that researchers will some day develop a vaccine. But vaccines work by causing your body to produce antibodies specific to a pathogen.
If a vaccine for HIV was created, everyone who had the vaccine would then test positive for HIV on the non-specific antibody tests now in use.


The original drug used to treat people with AIDS, called AZT, was not created for AIDS treatment. AZT was originally developed in the 70's as a chemotherapy drug for cancer patients, but it was not approved because it was determined to
be too toxic. Chemotherapy for cancer patients is limited to a certain duration, while AZT and similar drugs are prescribed to AIDS patients for the rest of their lives. The study that lead to FDA approval for AZT has now been shown to have been fraudulent. The package for AZT says: "TOXIC. Toxic by
inhalation, in contact with skin and if swallowed. Wear suitable protective clothing." Among other side effects, AZT destroys the bone marrow of the body.
The reason doctors see an initial rise in their patients' T cell count after taking AZT is because the bone marrow is where T cells are produced. AZT destroys the bone marrow and this releases more T cells from the marrow into the blood. Prolonged use of AZT has been shown to suppress the immune system and lower T cell counts. About 95% of AIDS-related deaths have occurred since the release of AZT.


The newer protease inhibitors used in combo therapy are also a type of chemotherapy. They work by preventing the replication of genetic material belonging to HIV. But these proteins are not specific to HIV, and the protease
inhibitors do not exclusively target HIV. The highest cause of death today for people with AIDS is liver failure. Liver failure is not an AIDS-defining illness, but it is a known side-effect of the protease inhibitors. AIDS patients can see the disappearance of some symptoms while taking the drug cocktails. This is because the drugs they are taking are global poisons that
kill many microbes in the body that may be pathogenic, such as bacteria and other viruses.


The drug companies claim that the release of protease inhibitors in 1996 was responsible for decreased deaths due to AIDS. But deaths from AIDS had already begun a declining trend three years before in 1993, and the introduction of
protease inhibitors did not significantly alter this trend. Studies are no longer comparing AIDS drugs with a placebo. Now when they test a new antiretroviral drug they compare a group taking the new drug with a group that is taking the older drugs. There are no studies being done comparing the difference in health between people taking the AIDS medications and people who are not taking the drugs, though many HIV positive people lead healthy lives free of disease for many years, without taking AIDS medication.


AIDS statistics can be very misleading. This is because of the many definitions for AIDS that have been used by different countries and at different times.
Originally, in the United States you had to test HIV positive and have one or more of the AIDS-defining illnesses to be counted as somebody with AIDS. In 1993 the Center for Disease Control (CDC) expanded this definition to include
anyone who tested positive for HIV and had a T cell count of under 200. This nearly tripled the perceived number of AIDS cases in the US. Many of the people who have AIDS by this definition are perfectly healthy, and would not be
considered to have AIDS if they moved to Canada.


Today we are told that ridiculously large numbers of people in Africa are HIV positive and will die of AIDS unless treated. These statistics are not counts of people who have actually tested positive. It is an estimation generated from
a sample population. The sample population is primarily pregnant women, who are the ones who get priority for medical treatment in poor countries. But pregnancy is known to be a source for false positive results on HIV tests. And
people of African descent in general are more likely to test false positive.

The World Health Organization does not require a positive HIV test for the diagnosis of AIDS in Africa. All that is required is a certain number of symptoms. But all of these symptoms can also be explained by malnutrition, malaria, and tuberculosis, conditions that have been health risks for Africans
long before the invention of AIDS. The health of poor Africans would undoubtedly be improved with better food and sanitation.
But funding is now being geared towards delivery of toxic AIDS medications to Africans rather than for these basic essentials.


Clearly many people have died in this country and elsewhere as the result of a suppressed immune system. But the 29 AIDS-defining illnesses are not new illnesses, and they all have previously documented causes and treatments.
Diagnosis of AIDS now works like a formula. If you have pneumonia and you test HIV negative, you are told you have pneumonia. If you have pneumonia and you test HIV positive, you are told you have AIDS and you are treated with toxic
AIDS drugs. For those people who are truly immune suppressed, there are other possible explanations for this phenomenon, and many safe non-toxic therapies.


If the true condition of AIDS is a suppressed immune system unable to fight off opportunistic infections, there are many other factors that can cause this.
Drugs such as cocaine and crystal methane are known to suppress the immune system. These drugs were used extensively by many gay men in the 1970's and 1980's. Intravenous drug users who have AIDS are said to be immune suppressed due to HIV, rather than due to the drug they have been injecting.

Corticosteroids and some antibiotics, often prescribed to drug addicts and promiscuous gay men, are also immune suppressive. Blood given to hemophiliacs and other transplant recipients used to be treated with immune suppressing
agents. Now with a new way to treat this blood, AIDS among blood recipients has declined. Despite predictions of a global epidemic, AIDS cases in the United States have remained confined to its original primary risk groups: promiscuous
gay men and intravenous drug users. In the gay party scene, drug use, malnutrition, and sleep deprivation continue to be high risk factors for immune deficiency.


Kaposi's Sarcoma is one of the AIDS-indicator diseases, but it primarily occurs in gay men and not other AIDS groups. Nitrite inhalants or poppers, used extensively by gay men in the 70's and 80's, have been shown to cause Kaposi's Sarcoma (KS). KS is a cancer of the blood vessels. Nitrites are known
carcinogens. KS is usually seen in gay men around the face, mouth, and in the lungs, all sites of contact with nitrite fumes.

There are many recorded incidents of KS in HIV-negative gay men who used poppers. As the use of poppers decreased in the 90's, the incidence of KS also decreased. Poppers are still
used by many gay men.


Fear and anxiety is another factor that can suppress the immune system. Stress releases cortisol in the body. This cortisol is used to help break down tissues for the release of energy needed in a fight or flight situation. But prolonged
stress and anxiety creates abnormally high levels of cortisol in the body.

Cortisol has been shown to suppress the immune system and decrease T cell counts. Irregular sleep or lack of sleep also increases cortisol levels. Gay men who face discrimination and hatred for their sexuality can experience chronic fear and anxiety. Intravenous drug users also face a lot of chronic
fear and paranoia as part of their addiction. Testing positive for HIV itself can create huge amounts of fear in the person being diagnosed.

David Gilbert Brings it on home 24.Apr.2005 00:13



Since everyone else seems to be using the old cut and paste. Or you could ignore all that and just read the article but whatever.

AIDS Conspiracy?

Tracking Down the Real Genocide

An Almost Perfect Fit ( back to table of contents )
AIDS -- which can so heartlessly take people away in their prime of life -- is the lethal scourge of our day, and it is still light years away from being brought under control. This epidemic seems to have an uncanny knack for attacking people that the dominant society considers "undesirable": gays, injection drug users (IDUs), and prisoners. And AIDS has increasingly become a grim reaper in the Black and Latino communities within the U.S. and among Third World people internationally.

The commonly cited U.S. statistic that Black people have twice the rate of AIDS as white Americans understates the problem because it is based on a cumulative figure (that is, the total number since 1981). But early on in the epidemic a large majority of the diagnosed cases were among white gay men. (It is very possible that there were many undiagnosed cases among IDUs -- particularly Black and Latino -- who lacked access to decent medical care.) Looking at new rather than cumulative cases gives us a better picture of what is going on now. In 1992 the rate of new cases for Latinos was 2.5 times higher than for whites. 1 [Numbered notes, which list sources, can be found at the end of the paper.] The stark Black/white ratios for the rate of new AIDS cases in 1993 was 5/1 for men and 15/1 for women. 2 By then, AIDS had become the leading cause of death of Black people between the ages of 25 and 44, 3 And it continues to get worse as the AIDS hurricane moves deeper into the ghettos and barrios.

Internationally, the racial disparity is even worse: about 80% of the world's 9 million deaths from AIDS through the end of 1995 have occurred in Africa, 4 and this plague has already orphaned over 2 million children there. 5 In short, there is a powerful correlation between medical epidemiology and social oppression. What is more, that mesh fits -- like a tailor made suit -- on the extensive body of history of chemical and biological warfare (CBW) and medical experiments against people of color, prisoners, and other unsuspecting citizens. Such CBW in North America started when the early European settlers used smallpox infected blankets as a weapon of genocide against Native Americans. It includes the pre-market testing of birth control pills, before proper dosage was known, on Puerto Rican and Haitian women who were not warned of the potentially severe side effects.

Recent revelations about U.S. human radiation experiments led to a comprehensive review of all government agencies by a Presidential Advisory Committee. They found that there had been at least 4,000 U.S. government sponsored human radiation experiments, involving as many as 20,000 people, including some children, between 1944 and 1974. 6 It has also been documented that the U.S. Army conducted hundreds of tests releasing "harmless" bacteria, viruses, and other agents in populated areas, including a test to see how a fungal agent thought mainly to affect Black people would spread. 7 (For an excellent summary of U.S. CBW, see Bob Lederer's article in Covert Action Information Bulletin, #28, Summer, 1987.)

The most apposite example is the four decade-long Tuskegee Syphilis study. Starting in 1932, under U.S. Public Health Services auspices, about 400 Black men in rural Alabama were subjects in an experiment on the effects of untreated syphilis. They were never told the nature of their condition or that they could infect their wives and children. Although penicillin, which became available in the 1940s, was the standard of treatment for syphilis by 1951, researchers not only withheld treatment but forbade the men from seeking help elsewhere. This shameful "experiment" was stopped in 1972, only after a federal health worker blew the whistle. 8

Nor is experimentation on people of color a thing of the past. Beginning in 1989, 1,500 children in West and East Los Angeles and Inglewood were given the experimental Edmonston-Zagreb, or E-Z, measles vaccine as part of a government-sponsored trial. Most of the subjects were Latino or New Afrikan (Black). The parents of these children were never told that they were part of an experiment with an unlicensed drug, and thus had a less than adequate basis for giving their consent. The E-Z vaccine was also tested in Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Guinea, and more than a dozen other Third World countries. Trials in Los Angeles, conducted with the cooperation of Kaiser Permanente, the Centers for Disease Control and John Hopkins University, were stopped two years later after questions were raised about the vaccine's relationship to an increased death rate among female infants. 9

On another level, the drug plague in the ghettos and barrios has the effect of chemical and biological warfare against those communities. The government's role in this scourge is probably much more direct than the obvious stupidity and corruption. There has been considerable evidence, going back to the 1960s, of CIA involvement in international drug-trafficking in order to raise money to finance anti-Communist guerrilla forces in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Nicaragua.

A new bombshell has just hit with the August 18-20, 1996 series of articles by Gary Webb in the San Jose Mercury News. Based on recently declassified documents, court testimony, and personal interviews, Webb describes how a CIA operation was instrumental in the new influx of cheap cocaine into Black communities in the early 1980s, paving the way for the emergence of the devastating crack epidemic. The CIA set up and ran the "Contras," a terrorist force fighting to overthrow the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua. Starting in 1982, two key Contra fundraisers (Norwin Meneses and Danilo Blandón), enjoying obvious protection from investigation and prosecution, brought the first large-scale and cheap supplies of cocaine into South-Central Los Angeles.

Once we move beyond specific health issues into the political realm, government plots to prevent or destroy Black liberation are a continual and central feature of U.S. history. The most relevant example for today's dire political situation is the FBI's "Cointelpro" (counterintelligence program), which peaked (but undoubtedly didn't end) in the late 1960s and early 1970s. This secret but extensive sabotage campaign against Black liberation and other movements of oppressed people, as well as against white radical groups allied with them, was exposed only after activists broke into an FBI office and found some of the documents. For example, a 1968 FBI memo calls on agents to:
...prevent the coalition of militant black nationalist groups...prevent militant black nationalist groups and leaders from gaining respectability. ..prevent the rise of a black "messiah" who would unify and electrify the militant black nationalist movement. Malcolmb X (sic) might have been such a "messiah"...
[emphasis that of the original document]

The program included a devilish array of dirty tricks and disruptions. While of course none of the documents explicitly discuss assassinations, about 40 Black Panthers were murdered over this five year period, and the Panthers were hit with over 1,000 arrests on trumped-up charges. Another grisly example is what was done to the Native American movement. In the three years following their 1973 occupation of Wounded Knee, at least 69 American Indian Movement members and supporters met violent deaths. (For more detail on Cointelpro, see Ward Churchill and Jim Vander Wall, Agents of Repression, Boston: South End Press, 1990.)

The violent plots against these movements have everything to do with the terrible setbacks in power and conditions for oppressed peoples today.

In light of all the documented horrors, there are good reasons why so many prisoners as well as a significant portion of the New Afrikan community believe that government scientists deliberately created AIDS as a tool of genocide.

There is only one problem with this almost perfect fit: It is not true. The theories on how HIV -- the virus that causes AIDS -- was purposely spliced together in the laboratory wilt under scientific scrutiny. Moreover, these conspiracy theories divert energy from the work that must be done in the trenches if marginalized communities are to survive this epidemic: grassroots education and mobilizations for AIDS prevention, and better care for people living with HIV.
Dangerous To Your Health ( back to table of contents )
It is this dangerous diversion from focusing on the preventive measures so urgently needed to save lives that makes the rash of conspiracy theories so disturbing. That's the concern that compelled the writing of this paper. I've been doing AIDS education in prison for over nine years; these conspiracy myths have proven to be the main internal obstacle -- in terms of prisoners' consciousness -- to concentrating on thorough and detailed work on risk reduction. What's the use, believers ask, of making all the hard choices to avoid spreading or contracting the disease if the government is going to find a way to infect people anyway? And what's the point of all the hassles of safer sex, or all the inconvenience of not sharing needles, if HIV can be spread, as many conspiracy theorists claim, by casual contact such as sneezing or handling dishes?

The core of the mind-set that undermines prevention efforts is "denial." People whose activities have put them at risk are often so petrified that they don't even want to think about it. Conspiracy theories serve up a hip and seemingly militant rationale for not confronting one's own risk practices. At the same time, such theories provide an apparently simple and satisfying alternative to the complex challenge of dealing with the myriad of social, behavioral, and medical factors that propel the epidemic.

In addition to my extensive personal experience, a recent study out of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill found that New Afrikans who believed in the conspiracy theories are significantly less likely to use condoms or to get tested for HIV. 10 To put it bluntly: The false conspiracy theories are themselves a contributing factor to the terrible toll of unnecessary AIDS deaths among people of color.

While convinced by scientists I know that humans did not design HIV, my main concern here is not to disprove the conspiracy theories. Neither do i attempt to solve the problem of the origins of AIDS or even review the many different theories and approaches to that question. The origin of this disease, as of many others, is likely to remain unsolved for years to come. Various theories of AIDS origins include: a virus that jumped species, an accidental byproduct of biological warfare experiments on animals, a new viral mutation, and a virus that lived in an isolated ecological niche until new social conditions facilitated the explosion of an epidemic. There is also a set of theories based on the now highly dubious proposition that HIV is not the cause of AIDS. (For excellent discussions of HIV's likely history and the social factors that facilitated the explosion of the epidemic, see Gabriel Rotello, "The Birth of AIDS," OUT, April, 1994, and Laurie Garrett, The Coming Plague, pp. 281-390.)

Instead this article examines the validity of one set of theories being widely propagated to prisoners and to New Afrikan communities: that HIV was deliberately spliced together in the lab as a weapon of genocide. These theories have had important public health and political implications. My urgent, life and death purpose is to refocus attention on AIDS prevention and care and, more broadly, on the struggle against the racist and profit-driven character of a public health system that is causing tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

Readers not interested in a detailed critique of the conspiracy theories are invited to skip right to the last three sections of this essay, starting with "The Real Genocide." Hopefully, that is also where all readers will concentrate their attention.
Scientific Unraveling ( back to table of contents )
When first introduced to a conspiracy theory in 1987, 1 believed it because of the sordid history of U.S. chemical and biological warfare. The version I saw then was based on the work of two East German scientists, Jakob and Lilli Segal, and was published by the Soviet news agency Tass on 3/30/87. They claimed that HIV couldn't have possibly evolved naturally and that it was obviously an artificial splice between visna virus (a retroviru s * that infects the nervous system of sheep) and HTLV-1 (the first retrovirus known to infect humans). They argued that the splice was created at the notorious CBW lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland and then tested on prisoners in the area.

Upon receiving and believing this article, I immediately sent it to a professor of molecular genetics and microbiology (now at the University of Massachusetts Medical School), who specializes in immunology, Janet Stavnezer. My friendship with Janet goes back to the 1960s and her support for civil rights and the anti-war movement. While that does not make her analysis infallible, there is certainly no way she could be a conscious part of a conspiracy against oppressed people. Stavnezer's response to the article I had found so politically credible was unequivocal: the splice theory that the Segals posit is scientifically impossible. (All references in this paper to Stavnezer's analysis, as well as to her colleague at U. Mass. who specializes in virology -- professor of molecular genetics and microbiology, Dr. Carel Mulder -- come from personal correspondence and discussions.)

A couple of years later the Soviet Union withdrew the Segals' charges. But it is open to interpretation whether they did so because the "science" involved is so demonstrably dishonest or because with " Perestroika, " they were now cultivating diplomatic favor with the U.S. In any case, there are other fatal flaws in the Segals' theory. First, in an obvious error of U.S. geography, they speculated that Maryland prisoners, once released, congregated in New York City to become the seedbed of the epidemic; but most Maryland prisoners would return to Baltimore, or Washington D.C., and neither of those cities was an early center of AIDS. Second, they posit sophisticated forms of genetic engineering and cloning that hadn't yet been invented in 1977. 11

Since the Segals there have been a number of related theories that HIV was man-made. One posits a splice of visna virus and equine infectious anemia virus; another, a splice of visna virus and bovine leukemia virus. One sets the date at Fort Detrick back to 1967; another implicates the World Health Organization (WHO), starting in 1972. Most of these other theorists (such as Robert Strecker, John Seale and William Douglass) come from the far right politically and charge that -- whether it was engineered at Ft. Detrick and/or by WHO -- the AIDS virus is a Soviet biological warfare assault on the Western world.

I sent these various splice theories to Stavnezer and Mulder for review; none of them holds water scientifically. The method for analyzing the relationship of different viruses is to compare the base pairs of nucleic acids that constitute the DNA. None of the viruses posited in the various splice theories has nearly enough similarity (or homology) with HIV to be one of its parents.

At the same time as my 1987 inquiry, another, and far more exhaustive, study independently came to a similar conclusion: the various genetic engineering theories were fundamentally flawed. Investigative journalist Bob Lederer researched the topic for Covert Action Information Bulletin (CAIB), a publication that has been outstanding at exposing CIA and related operations. Lederer, an anti-imperialist and an AIDS activist, also started out with a political predisposition for believing the government could well have created AIDS. His in-depth research led him to conclude that the series of HIV-splice theories were false. One of his prime sources was Dr. David Dubnau, a long-time activist against CBW, who was emphatic: the HIV splice theorists "are simply wrong." This movement scientist independently offered the same explanation as Stavnezer and Mulder: HIV does not have any nearly sufficient sector of homology with the proposed parent viruses. 12

Needing a vehicle for the deliberate dissemination of the allegedly spliced virus, the conspiracy theorists also characterize various vaccination programs (against smallpox in Africa, hepatitis-B among gay men in the U.S., and polio in various places) as examples of CBW campaigns. While vaccination programs with inadequate controls for contamination may have contributed to the spread of infection, they could not have been a prime cause: The geography of the vaccination campaigns does not correspond with the locations of early centers of AIDS 13 -- and retrospective tests have not found any such contamination. l4

Meanwhile, such unsubstantiated rumors can dangerously discourage people here and in the Third World from getting the same protections for their children that have done so much to stop diseases among more privileged whites. The danger is illustrated by the unnecessary and serious 1989-91 outbreak of measles among children within the US. More privileged children had routinely been protected by a safe and effective vaccine (not the later, experimental E-Z variety) in use since 1963. The tragic result of the public health system's failure to carry out thorough vaccination campaigns in poor, primarily Black and Latino, communities was 27,000 cases of measles and 100 deaths in 1990 alone. 15

There is another major problem with the splice theories -- timing. Why in the world would scientists searching for a weapon of genocide in the early 1970s plunge into the then-completely-uncharted territory of human retroviruses when there were already many known and available lethal agents? Marburg virus, for example, discovered in 1967, would make an excellent candidate. 16 On the other hand, scientists had no reason to even consider the class of viruses to which HIV belongs as possible CBW agents to destroy the human immune system.

The first human retrovirus (HTLV-I) was not discovered until 1977, and even then it could not immediately be linked to any disease. Yet the epidemiological evidence shows that AIDS already had appeared in several countries by 1978. 17 For full-blown AIDS cases to already be so geographically dispersed, HIV (a virus with a long incubation period) had to have existed at least several years before that.

And it is probably considerably older. Retrospective tests on blood taken in 1971-72 from 238 IDUs across the U.S. found that 14 of the 1129 samples -- or 1.2 percent -- were HIV antibody positive. l8 There are also a number of known cases of patients who died of AIDS-defining diseases decades ago. These include: a teenager who died in St. Louis in 1968 with four different opportunistic infections; a Norwegian sailor, his wife and a child in the late 1960s; and a sailor in England in 1959. Preserved tissue and blood samples from all of these cases later tested HIV antibody positive, although when the more difficult direct test was tried in two of these cases they could not recover HIV itself. 19

Medical case histories going back to the 1930's -- the earliest period in which accurate records were kept -- show isolated cases with all the earmarks of AIDS. Various analyses of the DNA sequences -- a technique used for broad assessment of a species' age -- have provided estimates for the age of HIV that range from 30-900 years. 20

Whenever HIV first arose, and however long it may have subsisted at a low level in isolated populations, there is no mystery as to why its spread would take off in the mid-1970s. There were a host of new social conditions to serve as powerful amplifiers for any infectious agent: international jet travel flourished; a sexual revolution provided many more opportunities for multiple sexual partners; injection drug use greatly accelerated; there was a revolution in the use of a range of blood products, including multiple-donor blood-clotting factors for hemophiliacs; and there was the scandalous practice, born of poverty, of multiple re-use of syringes for legitimate medical practices in Third World countries.

The travel, sex, drug and blood products revolutions all combined by the mid 1970s to create powerful amplifiers for the rapid global spread of infectious diseases. 21 Far from being an anomaly, AIDS is a harbinger of other pandemics to come if humanity doesn't radically change our approach to worldwide public health.

In brief, the lack of knowledge of any human retroviruses before the late 1970s and the compelling evidence for the earlier genesis of HIV virtually eliminate the possibility that scientists deliberately designed such a germ to destroy the human immune system. More specifically, and decisively, Stavnezer and Dubnau independently confirm that all the alleged splices are in fact impossible because HIV does not have nearly enough genetic similarity with any of the proposed parent viruses.
Shyster Science ( back to table of contents )
The most common article on the alleged conspiracy theory circulating in New York State prisons is "WHO Murdered Africa," by William Campbell Douglass, M.D., which appeared in Health Freedom News, September, 1987. ("WHO" stands for the World Health Organization.) Douglass has developed these themes at book length in AIDS: The End of Civilization (Brooklyn: A & B Books, 1992). His work deserves careful scrutiny because he has become a prime source for many Black community militants and prisoners who embrace the conspiracy theory out of a sincere desire to fight genocide. Douglass, however, who is white, expresses little concern for Black lives. Instead his avowed purpose is the defense of Western civilization, and he describes his politics as "conservative" -- which turns out to be quite an understatement for his ultra-right wing political agenda.

The authorities' response to the AIDS crises has been disastrously inadequate, and establishment science has tended to be arrogant and glib. Their quick pronouncement of the African green monkey theory of the origins of HIV and their intense promotion of AZT as the main medical response to AIDS were particularly suspect. This experience makes people prone to embrace any attacks on establishment science. But the crisis we face demands that we think critically rather than become simply reactionary.

Douglass is clearly opposed to mainstream science, but what he offers instead is a bizarre cocktail of half-truths, distortions, and lies. He may be an MD, but he obviously has little or no background in genetics, virology, or epidemiology. On p. 171 (all page references are to his book) he confuses the most basic distinction in epidemiology between the cause of AIDS (a virus) and a means of transmission (dirty needles). He evidently thinks (p. 230) that all RNA viruses are retroviruses, which is like thinking all fruits are citrus. In fact his whole discussion there and in his article as to the possibility of transmission by insects displays a fundamental ignorance of the science involved. 22 There is also something radically wrong with his statistics, as he offers five very different figures for the number of HIV infections in the U.S. (pp. 53, 60, 63, 168, 170) without making any effort to reconcile the variations.

Douglass "proves" that HIV is a splice of two other viruses by comparing the shapes as depicted in his own crude and inaccurate sketches of them (p. 231). But the scientific method for determining the degree of relatedness of different viruses is by detailed comparison of the sequence of base pairs of nucleic acid in the DNA. Such an analysis in fact disproves the splice theory.

Douglass also promotes a strange cure for numerous ailments -- photoluminescence -- in which small amounts of blood are drawn, irradiated with ultraviolet light and reinjected (pp. 251-252). Treatment at his Clayton, Georgia clinic can span several weeks and cost thousands of dollars. 23
Disinformation ( back to table of contents )
Douglass goes beyond such misconceptions and distortions to perpetrating fraud. His "smoking guns" to prove the conspiracy are two key articles, one from Bulletin of the World Health Organization, the other from Science. If you take the time to read the actual articles, they don't say anything like what he claims they do. Douglass must be consciously promoting a disinformation campaign.

His centerpiece is that WHO actually called for engineering a retrovirus to cause AIDS. He "proves" this by citing a 1972 article in the WHO Bulletin (A. Allison, et. al., "Virus-Associated Immunopathology: Animal Models and Implications for Human Disease," 47:1, pp. 257-264). Douglass is emphatic: WHO is talking about "retroviruses" and is calling for scientists to "attempt to make a hybrid virus that would be deadly to humans." As Douglass sums it up:

"That's Aids. What the WHO is saying in plain English is 'Lets cook up a virus that selectively destroys the T-cell system of man, an acquired immune deficiency. '"
(The above quotes are from Douglass's "WHO Murdered Africa," and the underscorings are all his. He presents an almost identical description in his book, p. 80.)

On the surface, it is astonishing that any conspirators would reveal themselves by openly publishing a call for such an evil project. If one takes the time to find and read the WHO article in question, it becomes totally obvious that Douglass completely flipped the whole meaning and intent. The article in question (1) is NOT primarily about retroviruses; (2) is NOT at all about engineering new viruses; (3) NEVER discusses making hybrids; and (4) is absolutely NOT about making a virus to destroy the human immune system.

Instead, the article is all about a number of viruses already known at the time that cause various illnesses (in humans and other mammals). Evidence was emerging by 1972 that some of these known viruses, in addition to their direct damage, worked in part by selective effects on the immune system -- in some cases by impairing and in other cases by overstimulating immune responses. There is a call to study these secondary effects. The article is simply a legitimate inquiry into existing diseases and has absolutely nothing to do with creating some new virus to cripple the immune system.

Douglass offers only one quote from the original article. Not only does he completely change the context, he also makes a crucial deletion from the quote: the list of viruses they are studying (Bulletin , op. cit., at p. 259). All the listed viruses were related to already recognized illnesses most are not retroviruses; none is a retrovirus that affects humans; and none is suspect in any of the proposed scenarios for HIV-splicing. Douglass has created a bogeyman out of thin air.

The other key and verifiable fraud is Douglass's oft-repeated claim that "Seventy-five million Africans became infected, practically simultaneously." [his emphasis] (p. 83 of his book). The cite offered for this figure is an article by T.C. Quinn, J.M. Mann, et. al. in Science 234, p. 955. But this 1986 article never mentions 75 million people infected or anything like that, not on the page Douglass cites, not anywhere else. The authors, who've done very valuable work on AIDS in Africa, don't offer a specific figure because not enough was known at the time. But they do cite, on p. 962, "estimates of several [i.e. two to ten] million infected in Africa." Incidentally, Douglass never mentions that this same Science article presents strong evidence contradicting his allegations that HIV can be transmitted by mosquitoes and that HIV was spread by vaccinations.
AIDS Holocaust in Africa ( back to table of contents )
Douglass's citation of seventy-five million infected practically simultaneously is a far cry from the actual discussion of between two and ten million over the course of five years. But the actual numbers are a true horror and have continued to rise over the years. By flaunting blatantly phony figures, Douglass makes a cruel mockery of the real AIDS conflagration consuming Africa. He would have us write Africa off as a lost cause, making AIDS medical care and prevention there already beyond hope. This direction is the exact opposite of what is needed: to fight fiercely for world health resources for this most pressing human need. (See my articles on the AIDS holocaust in Downtown, 1 1/10/93, and in Toward Freedom, August, 1996.)

Awareness of the real and horrendous human toll must serve as a rallying cry to promote the urgently needed measures that can stem the current march of death. WHO's official estimates of the world wide toll reached by the beginning of 1995 was 18.5 million HIV infections, 6 million cumulative cases of AIDS, 4.5 million AIDS deaths. About 2/3 of these HIV infections and 3/4 of those AIDS cases occurred in Africa. 24 The Global AIDS Policy Coalition offers figures that are somewhat higher, and probably more accurate. They estimate that 1.3 million Africans died of AIDS in 1995 alone, bringing the cumulative death toll there to 7.6 million. 25

The lies about a WHO conspiracy serve as a diversion from attacking the real causes of this tragedy: the way imperialism and neo-colonialism have drained and crippled Africa. As Dr. Pierce M'pele, director of Congo's Anti-AIDS Program, puts it: "It is undeniable that AIDS is a disease that comes with poverty." 26

Here are some of the ways the exploitation of Africa and the resulting poverty have blown the dangerous spark of HIV into a raging AIDS forest fire:
1. 300,000 Africans are becoming infected with HIV each year from blood transfusions alone 27 because those plundered nations don't have the money to screen their blood supply.

o HIV is also being spread because many health clinics can not afford disposable needles and have to reuse old ones. For example, a mission hospital in rural Zaire had just 5 syringes to use for its 300 to 600 daily patients. 28
o One of the most powerful factors in the sexual transmission of HIV is untreated sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). A recent pilot project in rural Tanzania showed that proper treatment for STDs can reduce HIV transmission by 42 percent. 29 The high rate of untreated STDs in Africa is a direct result of the lack of the most basic public health resources.
At the same time, the prevailing poverty means that many Africans with AIDS don't have even the most basic medication -- such as an aspirin to relieve pain or a lotion for itches that can have them scratching until bloody. 30

These conditions result not only from the history of exploitation but also from current programs imposed by the World Bank and International Monetary Fund that force these governments to spend money on debt payments to banks rather than on health care for people. Uganda is typical; they spend just $3 per person a year on health care compared to $17 per person on debt payments. 31 But in another way Uganda is atypical. Despite the poverty, community initiatives and government education on prevention have resulted in a major decline in new HIV infections. 32 Given this courageous start by people in Uganda, think what they could accomplish with a workable public health budget.

Overall, the world has failed to marshal even one-tenth of the $2.5 billion a year that WHO says is needed to mount an effective prevention campaign throughout the Third World. Compare that paltry but unattainable sum to the more than $40 billion a year these same countries lose in debt payments to banks in the U.S., Europe, and Japan. The phony charges about WHO actually serve to reinforce the prevailing and deadly neo-colonialism. The U.S.'s failure to pay any of its 1995 assessment of $104 million -- one-quarter of WHO's budget 33 -- has gutted that agency's already grossly inadequate program of assistance to vulnerable and impoverished countries. Meanwhile over 2.7 million human beings worldwide are becoming newly infected with HIV every year. 34

The crimes around AIDS are just one part of a global economic order where 14 million children die from hunger and easily preventable diseases each year, where 2 billion people are illiterate and where 1.5 billion people have little or no access to health care. 35

Douglass would have us believe that Africa was essentially already murdered by 1981 and have us off chasing the WHO bogeyman. In contrast the urgent need is to stop the murders in progress , to save lives in Africa, by attacking the real source of the problem -- global exploitation and the misuse of resources.
Deadly Lies ( back to table of contents )
Douglass' disinformation becomes a deadly threat when he discredits the very prevention measures needed to save lives:

It is possible that even the government propaganda concerning intravenous drug use is a red herring. If the intravenous route is the easiest way to catch AIDS, why does it take as long as five to seven years for some recipients of contaminated blood to come down with AIDS? (p. 171) Here he seems to forget the well established incubation period between infection with HIV and the onset of AIDS, although he manages to remember it later when he refers to a "latency" period of 10 years. (p. 245).

And arguing that there isn't a perfect correlation between the number of acts of intercourse and infection, he declares, "AIDS is not a sexually transmitted disease." (p. 243)

Then, after sabotaging prevention efforts by disparaging the well-established danger of needle sharing and unprotected sex, Douglass fuels hysteria with claims that AIDS can be contracted by casual contact. In his article he says, "The common cold is a virus. Have you ever had a cold? How did you catch it?" By failing to differentiate between airborne and bloodborne viruses, he is conjuring up a scare tactic as scientific as a warning that your hand will be chopped off if you put it in a goldfish bowl because, after all, a shark is a fish. He also asserts, citing no evidence, that "the AIDS virus can live for as long as 10 days on a dry plate," and then asks, "so, are you worried about your salad in a restaurant that employs homosexuals?"

While people are understandably skeptical of government reassurances on any matter, we can turn instead to the experiences of families of people with AIDS and of grassroots AIDS activists: There are hundreds of thousands of us who have worked closely with infected people for years without catching the virus. The unwarranted fears about casual contact deter sorely needed support for our brothers and sisters living with HIV infection and divert attention from the most common means of transmission: unprotected sex and shared drug injection equipment.
Reactionary Politics ( back to table of contents )
Despite the apparent irrationality, there is a coherence to Douglass' distortions and fabrications. They are driven by an ultra-right wing political agenda which, as research by Terry Allen of Covert Action Quarterly shows, goes back to the 1960s. Douglass, a member of the John Birch Society, ran a phone line spouting a 90-second "patriotic message." In it, he railed against the Civil Rights Movement, and denounced the National Council of Churches and three presidents as part of a "Communist conspiracy." Among the nuggets he offered callers in at least 30 U.S. cities was the likelihood "that those three civil rights workers [presumably Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman] in Mississippi were kidnapped and murdered by their own kind to drum up sympathy for their cause." In another he predicted that "The Civil Rights Act will turn America into a Fascist state practically overnight." 36

Two decades later he was blaming gays for AIDS in The Spotlight , the organ of the ultra-right Liberty Lobby, for which he wrote regularly and in which he ran advertisements for "The Douglass Protocol," his cure-all medical clinics. In 1987, he wrote, "Some have suggested that the FDA [Food and Drug Administration] is waiting for the majority of the homosexuals to die off before releasing ribavirin," a drug he was at the time promoting as a miracle cure for AIDS. Douglass, however, opposed withholding a "suppressed" cure, "although I feel very resentful of the homosexuals because of the holocaust they have brought us." 37

The political heart of AIDS: The End of Civilization is quite explicit: AIDS is part of the "entire mosaic of the current attack against western [sic] civilization." (p. 14). The term "western" is a thinly veiled way of saying "white."

Douglass sees AIDS as a diabolical plot perpetrated by WHO, which "is run by the Soviets." (p. 118). He weaves an elaborate and intricate plot for how the Communists -- much like an invading virus -- took over the machinery of the U.S. Army CBW labs at Ft. Detrick and the U.S. National Institutes of Health in order to use them to create and propagate AIDS.

Douglass is so deep into the tradition of the Communist bogeyman that he doesn't bother to revise this scenario for his 1992 edition -- after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Nor does he explain how such an involved and extensive plot would not get exposed now that there is no Soviet loyalty and coercion to prevent past operatives from talking about it. He even goes so far as to charge that a Soviet functionary named Dr. Sergei Litivinov was the head of WHO's AIDS control program in the late 1980s. But it is a matter of indisputable record that the American Jonathan Mann, whose writings Douglass cites favorably, was the Director from the founding of the program in 1986 until 1990 -- when he was replaced by another American, physician Michael Merson. 38

Historically, one important function of generating anti-Communist hysteria has been to use it as a political cover to mobilize Americans against Third World people's efforts to achieve control over their own land, labor, and resources. The Vietnam War is one of many examples. Many of us who are anti-racist are very critical of WHO because it is Western-controlled and offers such a pitifully inadequate response to the health needs of the world's majority. But self-avowed rightists like Douglass hate the UN and WHO because of the little bit of say that Third World nations have there. Rather than put this in explicitly racist terms, the issue is rationalized as "Soviet control" -- even to the degree of misstating who was the director of WHO's AIDS prevention program and even after the Soviet Bloc has collapsed.

In the guise of a program against AIDS, Douglass proposes a basketful of traditional ultra-right and neo-Nazi political policies:
o Support and strengthen the powers of local law enforcement (p. 139)
o Make preemptive military strikes against Russia (p. 138)
o Abolish the UN and WHO (p. 120)
o Stop all illegal Mexican immigration into the U.S. (p. 253)
Then there are a number of other proposals more directly about AIDS:
o Mandatory testing for HIV (p. 66)
o Quarantine of all those with HIV (pp. 165-6)
o Removal of HIV children from school (p. 161)
o Incarceration, castration, and even execution to stop prostitution (p. 158)
While these may have some visceral appeal to people's fears, a wealth of public health and activist experience has shown that such repressive measures are counterproductive in practice. Discrimination and repression drive those with HIV and the risk activities underground, making people unreachable for prevention, contact notification, and care. But while completely negative in terms of public health, such proposals are very useful for furthering the right wing's police state agenda.

Douglass fans fears about casual transmission in order to promote a political platform. He argues that if we don't overcome a tradition "where civil rights are more revered than civil responsibility" hundreds of millions will die (p. 165). And here is the final appeal in his book: "[I]t appears that regulation of social behavior, as much as we hate it in an egalitarian society such as ours, may be necessary for the survival of civilization" (p. 256).
A Sign of the Times ( back to table of contents )
As bizarre, self-contradictory, and refutable as his pronouncements are, Douglass is not an isolated crackpot. Not only does his material readily get published but it also has been widely propagated among Black prisoners. In addition, his program is in perfect harmony with the politics of Lyndon LaRouche, a notorious neo-Nazi with documented links to U.S. intelligence agencies. Somehow, for 28 years now, LaRouche has always had plenty of money for a host of slick publications and for a series of front organizations that operate on a national and international scale. 39

LaRouche's "National Democratic Party Committee" organized the intensely homophobic campaign in 1986 for Proposition 64 in California, which would have mandated an AIDS quarantine. (Fortunately the voters rejected this measure.) The "scientific" source the LaRouchites used for their reactionary campaign was Robert Strecker, MD. Douglass has worked closely with Strecker, considers him a mentor, and dedicates End of Civilization to him.

We live in a strange and dangerous period when the attractive mantle of "militant anti-government movement" has been bestowed on ultra-right wing, white supremacist groups. The only reason they can get away with such a farce is that their big brother -- the police state -- did such an effective job in the blood-soaked repression of the genuine opposition, such as the Black Panthers, rooted in the needs and aspirations of oppressed people. With people's movements silenced, the right has coopted the critique of big government and big business to achieve new credibility.

The resurgence of the ultra-right is based on growing discontent. The previous guarantee of economic security and significant privileges for a wide range of middle and working class white people has become threatened by global capital's relentless quest to boost profits. The right wing, however, portrays the threat as primarily coming from the inroads made by women, immigrants and people of color. Thus their vehemence and militancy springs from the same legacy of white supremacy and violence that is the basis of the government they criticize, and their program is in essence a call far a return to the pioneer days' ethos that any white male had the right and power to lay a violent claim to Native American land or New Afrikan labor, and female subservience. In short, while capitalizing on legitimate anger against the establishment, the far right's logic leads only to an intensification of white supremacy and violent repression.

Michael Novick reported in White Lies/White Power (p. 309) that within the far right "The LaRouche groups are particularly dangerous because, despite their fascist orientation, they have been attempting to recruit from Black groups for some time." Another source or AIDS conspiracy theorists is the political analysis of Bo Gritz, head of the "Populist Party." 40 As Novick's book shows, the "Populists" use anti-business rhetoric to try to recruit among the left, but the organization has clear roots in the Klan and definite ties to the extremely white supremacist "Christian Identity" movement.

When such forces propagate AIDS conspiracy theories among New Afrikans, one result is to divert people from the grassroots mobilization around prevention and education that could serve to foster greater cohesion, initiative, and strength within the Black community. At the same time, the right fans the flames of homophobia, which has combined with racism within the predominantly white gay & lesbian movement to prevent the forging of a powerful alliance of the communities being decimated by the government's negligence and inaction on AIDS.

Whatever the right's motives are, the practical consequences are clear: There is a definite correlation between believing these myths and a failure to take proven, life saving preventive measures.

To put it in three words: These Lies Kill.
The Real Genocide ( back to table of contents )
The New York Times ran a series of articles in May, 1992 expressing alarm that many Black people believe in various conspiracies -- with AIDS as a prime example. In their editorial of 5/12/92, the Times could only understand this as "paranoia." Educated white folks, to the degree they are aware of such matters, tend to be "amazed" by such beliefs among Blacks. But what is actually amazing is that so many white people are so out of touch with the systematic attack by the government-medical-media establishment on the health and lives of New Afrikans. Indeed the problem is far more powerful and pervasive than any narrow conspiracy theory can capture.

The health horror this society imposes on New Afrikans is not at all made into a "mainstream" public issue, but Black people know what they are experiencing. That may explain why some people become very vested in a plot scenario that seems to crystallize, in an unmistakable way, the damage being done. The bitter twist, though, is that those conspiracy theories are serving as a red herring that can divert people from tracking down and stepping to the real genocide.

There was a radical gap between the life expectancies of New Afrikans and of white Americans even before AIDS burst onto the scene. A Health and Human Services Dept. report showed that "excess deaths" among Black people for 1980 -- the number of Black people who died that year who would not have if they had the same mortality rate as whites -- was 60,000. That figure marks more unnecessary deaths in one year alone than the total of U.S. troops killed during the entire Vietnam War.

The Black body count is a direct result of overwhelming Black/white differences in living conditions, public health resources, and medical care. The infant mortality rate -- a good indication of basic nutrition and health care -- is more than twice as high for Black babies, and Black women die in childbirth at three times the rate of white women. There are also major differences in terms of prevention, detection, treatment, and mortality for a host of other illnesses, such as high blood pressure, pneumonia, and appendicitis. (The summary in the two paragraphs above is based on "Black Health in Critical Condition," by Steve Whitman and Vicki Legion, Guardian, 2/20/91.) The comparisons are even starker when you look at class as well as race, and, of course, the health status of both Latinos and poor whites is worse than that of the more well-to-do whites.

The situation has worsened since 1980 with the advent of AIDS and the new wave of tuberculosis (TB). TB, long considered under control in the U.S., began to resurge in 1985. One big factor was the greater susceptibility of HIV-infected people. But TB is an important example for another reason: It has always been closely linked to poverty. Crowded tenements, homeless shelters, jails, inadequate ventilation, and poor nutrition all facilitate the spread of this serious disease. Given the distribution of wealth and privilege, it is not surprising that the rate of TB for New Afrikans is twice that for white Americans.

In addition to disease, the tragedy of the high rate of Black-on-Black homicide -- a secondary but particularly painful source of needless deaths -- is in its own way a corollary of the frustration and misdirected anger bred by oppression. Black people are also assailed by a range of problems such as high stress, poor nutrition, and environmental hazards. One telling example of environmental hazards is the excessive blood levels of lead in children -- a condition with proven links to lowered academic performance and to behavioral disorders. For the latest survey, in 1991, harmful levels of lead were found in 21 percent of Black children compared to 8.9 percent for all children. 41

The public health history makes it clear: Far from being a mysterious new development with AIDS, it is all too common for epidemics and other health hazards to flow along the contours of social oppression.

While government plots such as the Tuskegee and the secret radiation experiments do in fact exist, the brutal damage they've done is small-time compared to the high human costs of the everyday functioning of a two-tiered public health system -- the malign neglect of denying people basic means of prevention and treatment.

Overall, the conditions for people of color within the U.S. can best be described as a concatenation of epidemics cascading down on the ghettos and barrios: AIDS-TB-STDs; unemployment, deteriorating schools, homelessness; drugs, internal violence, police brutality, wholesale incarcerations; violence against women, teen pregnancies, declining support structures for raising children; environmental hazards. All of these mutually reinforcing crises very much flow from the decisions made by government and business on social priorities and the allocation of economic resources. (The numerous public health essays of Rodrick and Deborah Wallace provide excellent analysis of the sources and effects of this series of epidemics.)

When governmental policies have such a disparate impact on survival according to race, that fits the crime of genocide as defined under international law. Whatever term one uses, the cruelty of tens of thousands of preventable deaths is unconscionable. This reality is the basis for the scream of a people that "mainstream" society seems unable or unwilling to hear. These conditions are the real genocide in progress that must be confronted.
STDs and Drugs ( back to table of contents )
There are two particular ways in which the racist structure of U.S. society fosters the spread of HIV: The public health system fails to stem the spread of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs); and the legal system seeks only to punish drug abusers rather than treat them or ameliorate the underlying social and economic causes.

A major risk factor for HIV transmission is untreated STDs. These infections can concentrate HIV-laden blood cells in the genital tract and can also cause genital sores, which are easier points of entry for HlV. 42 Although some STDs can be readily contained by responsible public health programs, rates began to soar for Blacks in the mid-1980s, with, for example, a doubling of the syphilis rate for Blacks from 1985 to 1990. At the same time, the rate remained stable for whites. This grave racial difference probably results from the lack of adequate STD clinics and the failings of public health education, along with the more general breakdown in social cohesion and values that can affect communities under intense stress.

Drugs, along with the violence and police repression that accompany them, constitute a plague in their own right for the ghettos and barrios. However, the public perception that illicit drug use is more prevalent among non-whites is wrong. Household surveys conducted by the National Institute of Drug Abuse show that New Afrikans, 12 percent of the U.S. population, comprise 13 percent of illicit drug users. Where there is a tremendous difference, though, is in incarceration. 74 percent of the people in prison for drug possession are New Afrikans 43

There is also a major disparity in terms of drug-related infection by HIV. Some studies indicate an HIV rate (seroprevalence) among Black IDUs five time higher than among white IDUs. 44 While partially a result of which drugs are used and how they are used, there is certainly a big and deadly difference in who has access to new (sterile) needles and syringes through either pharmacies or personal networks. Also, on the street, police are much more likely to stop and search Blacks and Latinos. This practice deters injection drug users of color from carrying personal sets of works (in states where they are illegal) and pushes them instead to share needles at shooting galleries.
Criminal Negligence ( back to table of contents )
Many people are now aware, from books like And the Band Played On by Randy Shilts, of how the government and medical establishment shamefully fiddled while the early AIDS flames began sweeping through the gay community. But there is almost no public discussion of today's deplorable failures around AIDS prevention, which continue to wreak havoc in the ghettos and barrios.

The latest example is hardly known beyond the immediate circles of AIDS workers. Health agencies and AIDS service organizations distributed hundreds of thousands of leaflets over the years teaching a quick bleach method for sterilizing needles and syringes. It involved shooting a 10% solution of bleach in and out three times and then thoroughly rinsing with water. The method looked good when tested in the laboratory, and it made sense to try to get the information out quickly and widely. But when actual studies in the field were completed in 1993, the results were a very high rate of transmission, 45 revealing that the method was useless on a practical level.

Health authorities analyzed what went wrong and developed a new -- more thorough and complicated -- bleach method that should work well if the user takes the time to conscientiously carry out all steps. Literature published after 1993 describes this new, more effective method. But there has been no wide-scale effort to publicize -- to ring an urgently needed alarm -- about the error of the old method that was disseminated to perhaps hundreds of thousands of people. As I know from my work in the field, most IDUs don't even bother to look at new literature because they're sure they already "know" the bleach method. At the same time, there's been no serious effort to find ways to teach IDUs, who may be impatient to get high, practical methods to assure they complete the cleaning process properly. Studies indicate that 80% of drug users do not clean their equipment for the more than 30 seconds that is required. 46

A main reason the authorities haven't trumpeted the warnings about the problems with bleach -- the failure of the old method and the difficulty of getting IDUs to take the time to do the new method correctly -- may well be to avoid pressure for programs that provide users with new, sterile needles and syringes. In fact the government initially suppressed the report on a study the government itself had commissioned on "needle exchange programs." (NEPs). The report, which concluded that NEPs are highly effective, was eventually leaked to the press.

The main resistance comes from politicians who don't want to risk being labeled "soft on drugs." Drugs are indeed incredibly destructive to oppressed communities, but the phony posturing of politicians is no part of the solution. Instead of decent ways to make a decent living, the politicians dish out poverty and despair; instead of drug treatment centers and programs to build community cohesion, they proceed with wholesale incarceration of the youth; instead of seeing the need for self-determination in the Black and Latino communities, the politicians use the drug crisis as a rationale to catapult us toward a police state. The vehement opposition to NEPs follows this same failed pattern. It does nothing to stop drugs but rather sows pain and death for people of color.

The study that the government commissioned and then tried to suppress involved a comprehensive review of all known needle exchange programs and experiments in the U.S. and Canada. The authors found no evidence that the NEPs led to any increased drug use. 47 (And of course such programs could even help reduce drug use if they served as a form of outreach for involving users in drug treatment programs -- except that the "anti-drug" politicians aren't providing the funding for treatment.) While it doesn't increase drug use, providing sterile equipment is highly effective in reducing HIV transmission. In one telling example the study found the rate of HIV among IDUs to be five times higher in states where needles are proscribed compared to states where they are legal. 48 A recent open letter from 32 AIDS prevention researchers declared that, after extensive research, experts are virtually unanimous that NEPs are highly effective in reducing HIV transmission without leading to increased drug use. Yet, there is still a ban on any federal AIDS funds for such programs, and many states still outlaw possession of needles. 49

Tens of thousands of IDUs, their lovers and their children have been condemned to die because health agencies won't advertise their mistake and because politicians won't risk being labeled "soft on drugs."

Shared needles is just one of the areas for risk reduction. For overall prevention work, the far and away most effective method for sharply reducing HIV transmission is peer education. 50 Homeboys and/or homegirls with appropriate training in HIV/AIDS information speak the same language, live in the same situations, and can work with the people in their communities in the detailed, consistent, caring, ongoing way needed to achieve concrete changes away from risky behavior. In fact, such peer programs are the only approach proven to work.

Prisons are not only a locale of some of the highest HIV rates in the U.S., but they are also a place where people who might have been constantly on the move in the street are stationary and collected -- a perfect setting for peer education. And the vast majority of prisoners eventually return to their outside communities -- where they can spread AIDS awareness, or they can spread AIDS. But prison administrations have generally been hostile to peer-led HIV-AIDS education; only a pitiful handful of such programs exist, and many of those are hamstrung by bureaucratic restrictions.

Allowing misinformation about cleaning needles to persist, blocking needle exchange programs, failing to treat STDs, thwarting prison peer programs are major examples of the current criminal negligence on AIDS -- and in particular of how this plague has been allowed to expand in the ghettos and barrios.
Fight the Power/Fight the Plague ( back to table of contents )
Waiting for the government to stop AIDS would be suicidal. We have to step to the problem by taking responsibility for ourselves, our families, and our communities. And the peer education model shows us that we do have the ability to make a big difference through our own grassroots efforts.

At the same time, communities that take initiative to help themselves can ally to demand socially beneficial use of social resources. Our tax money that goes to corporate welfare -- the $2.5 billion, for example, for one unnecessary Sea Wolf submarine being produced simply to keep the companies afloat, or the hundreds of billions of dollars to pay for the savings and loan scandal -- could instead be spent on public health and other human needs, both nationally and internationally.

What we don't need is Dr. Douglass and the like convincing people that HIV is not spread through sex and drugs. Instead, we need to engage the youth in detailed and sensible education on sexuality and responsibility, and we need to make measures available to move IDUs away from needle-sharing. We don't need hysteria about casual contact to generate cruelty toward people with AIDS and to foster support for police state repression. Instead, we need to support and learn from our brothers and sisters with HIV, and we need more open and democratic dialogue throughout the communities. Finally, we don't need to be led on a wild goose chase searching for the little men in white coats in a secret lab -- which we will never find -- which only leads us away from confronting the colossal crimes of malign neglect that are right in front of our faces, that can be documented, that are completely rooted in racism, homophobia, and profiteering.

Once we see the real nature of the problem, we can step to it with programs of proven effectiveness against AIDS that also strengthen oppressed communities:
grass roots public health education and mobilization that includes and fights for:
o extensive peer-led programs in prisons, schools, and communities;
o thorough and responsible sex education in the homes, schools and other institutional settings for youth, along with more and accessible STD clinics;
o general access to NEPs, and much more intensive and culturally relevant anti-drug education and treatment.
At the same time we need movements that fight:

1) to make the resources of society, now being lavishly squandered on the superrich, available in order to:
a) stop lethal public health and environmental conditions with programs that respond to initiative and leadership within the Black, Latino, and poor communities;
b) make medicine and social services for survival needs universally available;
c) put qualitatively more effort and focus into treatment and research for AIDS and the host of other health problems causing tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths. 2) for international solidarity with the people of Africa, including an end to the debt payments, along with reparations back to them, so that they can mount the health campaigns needed against the scourges now threatening to take millions of souls.

It's time to stop the real genocide.

David Gilbert
Clinton Correctional Facility,
Box 2001, Dannemora, New York,

The UNPROVEN 'FACT' 24.Apr.2005 00:19


Between 1984 and 1986, the number of articles which depicted the
Virus-Hypothesis as a proven fact increased from three to 62 percent.
Since then, the terms "virus", "cause", and "AIDS" have become inseparable in the minds of physicians and journalists. The world is convinced that AIDS is just a contagious plague, transmitted sexually or though blood transfusions.

Scientific journalists around the globe were
enthralled. What a great story, this HIV had
become, and what a great man, this Gallo.
Only one day after the Heckler-Gallo-conference, the
chief medical reporter for the New York Times,
Lawrence Altman, was so convinced of the Gallothesis that he made up the term "AIDS-virus" to use in one of his headlines. (Altman, 1984, C1).

Since then, the term has become a fixed idea,
making something that has yet to be proven.
By the way, Gallo's investigation didn't appear
in Science until weeks after his television appearance, making it impossible for anyone to verify his work before his TV gig. Gallo promoted himself as an infallible scientist and the journalists believed him. The HIV-AIDS-Hypothesis quickly established
itself in the media.
... and all questions still unanswered

But no one, not even the so-called "HIV-discovereres" Montagnier or Gallo, could plausibly explain why so few of the helper cells so important for the immune defence are "befallen" even in terminal AIDS-patients.
Hence, they couldn't explain the breakdown of the immune system with just the HIV-Theory.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences already called attention to this paradox in 1985 (Pahwa et al.,
1985, p. 8198-8202). That same year, Montagnier admitted in Annals of Internal Medicine that the virus alone could not be responsible for AIDS but that co-factors were necessary. This is the standpoint still taken today. However, scientific journalism wasn't interested in this point of view.
It had already committed itself to the HIV-AIDSHypothesis. Sociologist Steven Epstein analyzed how the leading scientific magazines reported on AIDS
during this initial phase of understanding. He
noticed that, between 1984 and 1986, the number of articles which, quoting Gallo's Science publication, depicted the Virus-Hypothesis as a proven fact increased from three to 62 percent.
"Expresion of doubt or scepticism - let alone support for other hypotheses - were extraordinarily rare" (Epstein, 1996, p. 81-88).

In order to explain what caused AIDS, also
Lawrence Altman trusted only one source: the
CDC. Altman was one of the first generation of
students of the Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS), founded in 1951 by the CDC. The CDC saw itself confronted with the accusation of
being "so fixated on contagious causes that other possible causes like chemicals or toxins were practically disregarded"
(Culliton, 1976, p. 1025; House Subcommittee
on Consumer Protection and Finance, 1976).

Basically, the CDC was totally unsuitable as an "objective" source of information, yet all journalists blindly trusted it.
The CDC went to great lengths to promote a
"spirit of loyalty" for the EIS-program. Leading
scientific journalists were personally called by
CDC-officials every once in a while to relate the newest data of some drug study or other - theconclusion always being a total success in the fight against AIDS.
Altman, especially, received various scoops from the CDC-officials, which he completely relied on, and admitted being influenced
by many years later. "He didn't think it
was his paper's place to announce something that the CDC was not confident enough to publish,"
Altman was quoted in Science (Nr. 257,1992, p.1033).

Gods, Graves, and Scholars
In order to make interesting stories out of formulas and equations, one needs kings and heroes, traitors and villains. Even scientific journalists make use of them. "First came God, then came Gallo," proclaimed Flossie Wong-Staal, Gallo's closest colleague and mistress, in the Los Angeles Times in 1986 (Cimons, 1986, p. 16). One year
later, Sam Broder, head of the National Cancer Institute, was quoted by the Washington Post with
the words "Einstein, Freud - I'd put him [Gallo]
on that list like that, I really would" (Remnick,
1987, W 10).

JUST TYPICAL 24.Apr.2005 00:32

Paul King

Magic Johnson is the 'AIDS' poster boy.

Twelve odd years and NOT ONE DAY SICK.

If the 'meds' don't kill you 'AIDS' clearly wont.

WHAT A SILLY< SILLY SCAM.......well, if if makes you billions perhaps not.

the billion$ for "AIDS" and "Polio" vaccines: total fear based lies 24.Apr.2005 03:44


same lies, corporate medical power, money making, and depopulation fascism seen here:


Title: Plaintiff Boyd Graves v. Defendants United States of America: RELEASE AIDS INFO NOW
Author: update
Date: 2004.02.22 03:28
Description: read the legal brief: "The archives of the U.S. Special Virus program were a part of the FOIA request and appeal, and as such, the complaint filed on December 6, 2002 seeking the full disclosure of the program was within the scope of information' requested...." This is Dr. Graves response to the US's Feb. 13, 2004 letter to him. He is going to court to get this information--which is legally already in the public domain.


search and read, for 'polio vaccines' here at PIMC:


newswire article coverage global 19.Feb.2005 01:43
environment | genetic engineering | health
Polio "Disappearance" Only Statistical Medical Fraud: depopulation covert op via vaccines
author: repost

I'm moving this to the main wire because I think it bears more awareness particularly because for a long time the companies and international programs involved in vaccination programs simultaneously running covert operations of biowarfare connected with eugenics ideologies. This article from The British magazine, The Ecologist, deconstructs the politics around creating the so-called 'polio vaccine success' which is still widely heralded as a success. However, any simple cursory analysis of its history and the effects of the vaccine show that it was a dismal failure and that any success was based on medical fraud of reclassification of expanded cases of polio (filed away under other diseases) to make it appear that polio "went away." The World Health Organization does this to the present, despite skyrocketing 'polio' everywhere. Widely known by the researchers even at the time, this is the story of the cover-up of the century: within this cover up, can be traced the expansion of using knowingly contaminated vaccines for depopulation everywhere.

In short:




Stand for science by all means. That is why you should reject vaccines by the way, instead of accept them.

[from the article:
US Chemtrails + Vaccines + Mosquitoes = Brucella Mycotoxin DEPOPULATION BIOWARFARE, 1950's to the present, author: revealing vector
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/311032.shtml ]


Article: Exclusive: The Truth about Nevirapine 24.Apr.2005 09:40


Exclusive: The Truth about Nevirapine

Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:05:58 -0600

Nevirapine blues
By Liam Scheff
Stepping over bodies on the way to market

Last week, Dr. Edmund Tramont, Head of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) AIDS division, was outed by fellow NIH AIDS researcher Dr. Jonathan Fishbein, for burying evidence of drug toxicity in an African drug trial. Documents obtained by the Associated Press show that Tramont censored reporting of thousands of toxic reactions and at least 14 deaths in the ongoing Nevirapine study in Uganda. Nevirapine is the key component of George W. Bush's $500 million donation to get AIDS drugs to Africans.

South African President Thabo Mbeki accused the U.S. of using Africans as "guinea pigs." The Rev. Jesse Jackson echoed the statement, calling the cover-up "an outrage."

The media has seized on this like it's news, but the truth about Nevirapine was known in 2000, when the FDA put a black-box label on the drug, warning of the drug's ability to cause fatal liver damage and bloody rupturing of skin and flesh.

The drug's manufacturer, Boehringer Ingelheim, had originally slotted the drug for pregnant HIV-positive women in the U.S. But Nevirapine's toxicities were so great, they pulled it out of the FDA approval process. Then they did what all AIDS drug manufacturers do with their garbage - dump it into the gay, Black or foreign market and tell the soft-headed liberal media that it's an "antiretroviral" that will stop AIDS.

The Ugandan study that Tramont helped bury was overseen by Dr. Laura Guay, a U.S. doctor from Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Under Dr. Guay, the drug found its approval overseas. How does a drug that kills Americans save Africans?

South African lawyer and journalist Anthony Brink scrutinized the study and approval process in his 2002 online publication, "The Trouble with Nevirapine." Brink's work on the drug AZT was widely read by South African leadership, and prompted President Thabo Mbeki's early criticism of the drugs being used in AIDS care. Dr. Fishbein tracked down Brink, whose Nevirapine study he described as "an expertly written piece about this very dangerous drug."

There's not a word in last week's NIH mea culpa that Brink didn't outline in greater detail a year and a half ago.

The Ugandan study (HIVNET 012 - The Lancet, Sept. 4, 1999) started like most AIDS drug trials do. Guay discarded the study controls. There was no placebo group to compare the Nevirapine group to. The exclusion of a placebo group is a near-standard protocol in AIDS research trials, where doctors claim that it would be unethical not to offer patients at least one drug. In Guay's study, Everybody was on one of two cell-killing drugs - Nevirapine or AZT.

The study put pregnant women on one of the two pills at labor. Why at labor? The idea is to prevent transmission of HIV from mother to child. The mother's HIV status is determined, of course, by what we call an HIV antibody test.

Here's a clever bit of information left out of the NIH report and the mainstream press coverage - HIV test inserts warn that pregnancy produces antibodies which cause the tests to come up positive. Pregnancy, on its own, can create positive HIV test results. You'll find this over and over again in the test packets and the medical literature (ex. Arch Fam Med. Sep/Oct 2000; Vironostika HIV-1 EIA Test 2003). But it was ignored in Uganda (as it is in the U.S., every day).

The other line of missing logic in the Ugandan study is that, according to the test manufacturers, no child can be tested for at least 18 months with any certainty, because of normal "acquisition of maternal antibodies" that can trip up the hyper-reactive HIV tests. (Oraquick HIV-1 Antibody test; MedMira Rapid HIV-1 Test 2003)

In order to get around the standard tests' shortcomings, the babies were instead tested with a genetic kit called PCR. But here's a minor catch. PCR isn't validated or approved to diagnose viral infection.

PCR is irreproducible. In the lab, it gives wildly varying results for the same sample material. (MMWR. 2001 Nov 16, 2001) There's no standard to measure it against (JAMA. May 1, 1996). PCR tests amplify scraps of unidentifiable genetic material in cells. Researchers like to pretend that this material represents some aspect of a virus - but the manufacturer warns specifically against using the test for this purpose:

"The AMPLICOR HIV-1 MONITOR Test... .is not intended to be used as a screening test for HIV or as a diagnostic test to confirm the presence of HIV infection." (Roche PCR HIV-1 Monitor Test)

But that's exactly how doctors and researchers are using it, to get infants into a drug study.

The liberal media has been largely silent on the issue.

[Democracy Now! ran an interview < link to www.democracynow.org, the BBC documentary based on Scheff's reporting on Wed. Dec. 22 - ed.]

But even if the tests were accurate, and the drugs weren't biological weapons, there's a terrible flaw in these studies. To paraphrase Brink - what's the purpose of a last-minute drugging to prevent the passage of a retrovirus, when the child and mother have been sharing the same blood, tissue, cells and body for nine months?

Adding insult to injury, the Guay study also became immediately unblinded. Everybody knew who was on Nevirapine, who was on AZT, and who tested positive. From the study: "After randomisation, on-site study staff and investigators became aware of the treatment and infection status of the mother-baby pairs. Mothers also knew to what study group they had been assigned after randomisation and of the infection status of their babies during the study... mothers were not masked to treatment status or outcome after randomization." In the absence of rigorously-maintained study controls, participants in drug trials tend to give into panic, pill-sharing, over-consuming, and the mixing in of non-study drugs to try to get the HIV-antibody response to go away.

The results of Guay's study came in with an official recommendation for Nevirapine, but only after recording an 80% rate of "laboratory abnormalities" for mothers and a 20% rate of "serious adverse events" in newborns in both the Nevirapine and AZT groups. These infants had blood and tissue infection, pneumonia, blood cell death, severe rash and insufficient oxygen reaching their tissues.

Thirty-eight babies died. Sixteen on Nevirapine, twenty-two on AZT. But Dr. Fishbein's outing of internal Boehringer-Ingelheim documents have added at least 16 more deaths, mostly in the Nevirapine group.

The drug was approved because the rate of PCR-inferred viral infection in the Nevirapine infants was 13.1%. Lower than that of the AZT group's PCR rating. What's PCR? A non-diagnostic test with no standard that gives different results for every sample.

According to the medical/pharmaceutical establishment, it was enough to get a profitable, deadly drug into the international marketplace.

In "The Trouble with Nevirapine," Brink points to another transmission study, done in July, 1998 (Journal of AIDS and Human Retrovirology). The study looked at 561 expectant African mothers and newborns to see what the rate of presumed HIV infection was with no drugs, no pills and no placebos. The result - 12%. Less than the 13.1%, with none of the drug toxicities. This result was roundly ignored in the quest to bring Nevirapine to market.

In Africa, the reactions to last week's revelations was anger. South African President, Thabo Mbeki, who has been roundly vilified in the U.S. press for his criticisms of the drugs and tests, commented in the December 17 ANC Today:

"Clearly, what was important for Dr Tramont was not the health of
the African people, but the success of President Bush's visit to our
continent, during which he would market Nevirapine to convince all
of us that he is concerned about our health, not knowing that the
U.S. state medical research authorities had kept him ignorant about
the serious concerns relating to the use of Nevirapine.

In other words, Dr Tramont was happy that the peoples of Africa
should be used as guinea pigs, given a drug he knew very well should
not be prescribed."

This summer in the U.S. the same drug was being used in an NIH sponsored trial of U.S. patients. Another expectant mother, Joyce Ann Hafford, had been dosed with Nevirapine (commercially sold here as "Viramune") because she too had a reaction on an HIV test.

Hafford was 33. Before entering the study, she was healthy and pregnant, but was convinced to go on the drug because of her HIV test result. In early August doctors knew that Hafford's liver was failing. But they kept her on the drugs.

She died two weeks later due to "drug-induced hepatitis" - fatal liver poisoning. An emergency cesarean-section was performed to get her baby out of her dying body. Neither she nor her family had been given the drug's boxed warning label prior to her entrance into the study. If she had, she might be here today.

The Nevirapine (Viramune) label:

"Warning: Severe, life-threatening, and in some cases fatal
hepatotoxicity [liver poisoning], including fulminant and
cholestatic hepatitis, hepatitic necrosis [liver death] and
hepatatic [liver] failure, has been reported in patients treated
with VIRAMUNE [Nevirapine]... Patients with signs or symptoms of
hepatitis must discontinue VIRAMUNE and seek medical evaluation

Severe, life-threatening skin reactions, including fatal cases, have
occurred in patients treated with VIRAMUNE. These have included
cases of Stevens-Johnson syndrome, toxic epidermal necrolysis [skin
death], and hypersensitivity reactions characterized by rash,
constitutional findings and organ dysfunction.

It is essential that patients be monitored intensively during the
first 18 weeks of therapy with VIRAMUNE to detect potentially
life-threatening hepatotoxicity or skin reactions... .In some cases,
hepatatic injury has progressed despite discontinuation of
treatment. VIRAMUNE should not be restarted following severe
hepatatic, skin, or hypersensitivity reactions."

Dr. Edmund Tramont, of the NIH, had these thoughtful words to offer on the subject:

"Ouch! Not much wwe (we) can do about dumd (dumb) docs," he wrote, in an inner-office email, leaked to the Associated Press.

Hafford's family is currently consulting with lawyers to see exactly how much can, in fact, be done about "dumb docs."

So far, the major media has covered these stories as though they were exceptions to the rule. Not a single media outlet has questioned the efficacy of HIV tests, even though the test manufacturers clearly do. The guardians of the Left - Mother Jones, Democracy Now!, et al - have, for over ten years, dismissed researchers and journalists who've sounded the warning bell about the tests and drugs, as the lunatic fringe. So how do they account for Nevirapine, and the drug it beat out, AZT?

The NIH blow-out has not impacted Washington. On Tuesday, December 14, White House press Secretary Scott McClellan stated that Nevirapine would continue to be used in pregnant women in the US and Africa: "[T]he U.S. Public Health Service guidelines continue to recommend short-term therapy with Nevirapine as an option for women who enter care late in pregnancy." He described Nevirapine as "a drug that can help save lives."

McClellan added, "The NIH is taking an appropriate step to ask for further analysis of the drug. That's what their role is in this."

On Friday, the NIH fired Dr. Jonathan Fishbein, the AIDS researcher and whistle-blower who exposed Dr.Tramont.

As for "their role" in "further analysis" of the drug, the NIH is "currently recruiting" patients in Africa, India, Brazil, the US and Puerto Rico for trials with titles like "Daily Nevirapine to Prevent Mother to Infant Transmission of HIV," and "Nevirapine Use to Prevent Mother-to-Child Transmission of HIV."

It seems that the Bush administration will be able to pay Boehringer to give Nevirapine to pregnant women, after all.

Additional info:

Dr. Fishbein's webpage: www.honestdoctor.org < http://www.honestdoctor.org>

Article: 'Only 6% of drug advertising material is supported by evidence' 24.Apr.2005 09:42


Only 6% of drug advertising material is supported by evidence

Heidelberg Annette Tuffs

A new study of the advertising material and marketing brochures sent out by drug companies to GPs in Germany has shown that about 94% of the information in them has no basis in scientific evidence.

The study, carried out by the Institute for Evidence-Based Medicine, a private independent research institute in Cologne, evaluated 175 brochures containing information on 520 drugs, which were either sent by post or handed out to 43 GPs since last June. The study was published in this month's issue of the drugs bulletin Arznei Telegramm (2004;35:21-3; www.di-em.de/data/at_2004_35_21.pdf < http://www.di-em.de/data/at_2004_35_21.pdf>).

About 15% of the brochures did not contain any citations, while the citations listed in another 22% could not be found. In the remaining 63% the information was mostly correctly connected with the relevant research articles but did not reflect their results. Only 6% of the brochures contained statements that were scientifically supported by identifiable literature.

The evaluation was done by two specially trained and independently acting reviewers. In cases of doubt a third reviewer was involved.

"This is the first study in Germany evaluating the quality of drug advertising material," says Thomas Kaiser, a scientist at the institute who published the study together with Peter Sawicki and other colleagues.

He points out that the advertising material presents distorted images of the drugs' profiles. The article lists several examples of misrepresentation: medical guidelines from scientific societies are misquoted or changed, the side effects of drugs are minimised, groups of patient are wrongly defined, study results are suppressed, treatment effects are exaggerated, risks are manipulated, and effects of drugs were drawn from animal studies.

The authors warn that such a high amount of misinformation puts patients' health at risk. Studies from other countries have shown that doctors tend to base their decisions on the information and advertising material sent out by drug companies. Therefore, the authors conclude, an independent institution should be established to monitor the content of such material.

Ÿ The German drug industry has decided to tighten the rules in its self regulatory code on relations between the industry and the medical profession with regard to cooperation in clinical studies and attendance at conferences that are funded by drug companies.

The German Association of Research Based Pharmaceutical Companies in Berlin announced that its members have set up an independent tribunal in Berlin. Members of the tribunal will be chosen by drug companies and doctors' and patients' groups but will not be elected representatives of those bodies. Like a court, the tribunal will be able to punish companies that break the rules, imposing fines of up to €50 000 (£34 000; $63 000) or, in the case of a second offence, up to €250 000. Anyone will be allowed to notify the tribunal of possible offences.

The initiative was the industry's reaction to the German government's threat to install an executive against corruption. Doctors' associations have also tightened their rules on corruption.


Help Stop Drug Companies from Hiding Study Results 24.Apr.2005 09:56


Stop Drug Companies from Hiding Study Results
Target: Your U.S. Representative
Sponsor: Consumers Union

Take Action:  http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/457238560

We deserve to know the truth about the safety of our prescription drugs!

The removal of arthritis drug Vioxx from the market, and Pfizer's recent decision to stop running ads for Celebrex, are the latest examples of the need to overhaul our drug safety system -- and the role the powerful pharmaceutical industry plays in the process.

Reports show that drug maker Merck may have known about the heart attack risk of Vioxx as early as 2000 from a clinical trial. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) often has access to drug safety risks, but does not make them public -- keeping researchers, doctors and patients in the dark. This is not an isolated incident - recent testimony by an FDA staffer raised potential safety concerns with several other widely-prescribed drugs.

It's time to stop the blame game and protect consumers. Clinical trials should be made public so important safety information is available to everyone and drug advertisements are clear about potential harmful side effects. We deserve to know the full truth about the drugs being marketed and prescribed to us.

You have the power to change the system today - sign this petition to your representatives to support a mandatory clinical trial registry. .....

Take Action:  http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/457238560

Article: 'Only 6% of drug advertising material is supported by evidence' 24.Apr.2005 09:57


Only 6% of drug advertising material is supported by evidence

Heidelberg Annette Tuffs

A new study of the advertising material and marketing brochures sent out by drug companies to GPs in Germany has shown that about 94% of the information in them has no basis in scientific evidence.

The study, carried out by the Institute for Evidence-Based Medicine, a private independent research institute in Cologne, evaluated 175 brochures containing information on 520 drugs, which were either sent by post or handed out to 43 GPs since last June. The study was published in this month's issue of the drugs bulletin Arznei Telegramm (2004;35:21-3; www.di-em.de/data/at_2004_35_21.pdf < http://www.di-em.de/data/at_2004_35_21.pdf>).

About 15% of the brochures did not contain any citations, while the citations listed in another 22% could not be found. In the remaining 63% the information was mostly correctly connected with the relevant research articles but did not reflect their results. Only 6% of the brochures contained statements that were scientifically supported by identifiable literature.

The evaluation was done by two specially trained and independently acting reviewers. In cases of doubt a third reviewer was involved.

"This is the first study in Germany evaluating the quality of drug advertising material," says Thomas Kaiser, a scientist at the institute who published the study together with Peter Sawicki and other colleagues.

He points out that the advertising material presents distorted images of the drugs' profiles. The article lists several examples of misrepresentation: medical guidelines from scientific societies are misquoted or changed, the side effects of drugs are minimised, groups of patient are wrongly defined, study results are suppressed, treatment effects are exaggerated, risks are manipulated, and effects of drugs were drawn from animal studies.

The authors warn that such a high amount of misinformation puts patients' health at risk. Studies from other countries have shown that doctors tend to base their decisions on the information and advertising material sent out by drug companies. Therefore, the authors conclude, an independent institution should be established to monitor the content of such material.

Ÿ The German drug industry has decided to tighten the rules in its self regulatory code on relations between the industry and the medical profession with regard to cooperation in clinical studies and attendance at conferences that are funded by drug companies.

The German Association of Research Based Pharmaceutical Companies in Berlin announced that its members have set up an independent tribunal in Berlin. Members of the tribunal will be chosen by drug companies and doctors' and patients' groups but will not be elected representatives of those bodies. Like a court, the tribunal will be able to punish companies that break the rules, imposing fines of up to €50 000 (£34 000; $63 000) or, in the case of a second offence, up to €250 000. Anyone will be allowed to notify the tribunal of possible offences.

The initiative was the industry's reaction to the German government's threat to install an executive against corruption. Doctors' associations have also tightened their rules on corruption.


South Africa: Release: 'NAPWA Expels TAC Members' 24.Apr.2005 10:06


NAPWA Expels TAC Members

Business Wire - March 8, 2005

GERMISTON, South Africa < http://www.aegis.org/countries/safrica.html> -- The South African National Association of People Living with HIV and AIDS (NAPWA) expelled fifteen Treatment Action Campaign (TAC) plants from both its leadership and from the organization at its national conference in February. The decision to expel the TAC from its ranks was taken by a unanimous vote of more than 300 delegates from 98 NAPWA branches representing over 300,000 members throughout the country at its Policy Conference held between 18 and 20 February 2005 in Germiston, South Africa.

NAPWA, the biggest, authentic grassroots AIDS organization in South Africa, took this dramatic step after TAC supporters tried hijacking it to align it with the TAC's agenda of uncritically promoting the use of toxic pharmaceutical drugs to the exclusion of side-effect-free, natural treatment approaches to AIDS.

A unanimous resolution was also passed at the conference confirming the reappointment of Nkululeko Nxesi as NAPWA National Director. Nxesi is well respected for his strong standpoint on the crucial primary role of proper nutrition for HIV/AIDS patients, and his awareness of the often devastating side effects of ARVs. "These individuals have been trying to hijack NAPWA to use as a platform for the TAC to push its narrow ARV-based response to AIDS," Nxesi said.

According to NAPWA, after failing to seize control of NAPWA, some of the drug-promoting renegades attempted to destroy the organization by falsely reporting that it was closing down. This led to the head office building being repossessed in November 2004, with the result that NAPWA's activities all but completely stalled. When NAPWA regained occupation of its building in February, it was found that it had been burgled, and twenty computers, office furniture and crucial documents had been stolen.

After the policy conference, expelled members arrived at NAPWA's head office armed with guns, assaulting NAPWA members and staff, and spraying slogans on office walls such as "Kill them," referring to NAPWA's directors. Nxesi has also received anonymous phone calls threatening him with death. Following their violence at NAPWA's office, the hooligans proceeded to the offices of NAPWA's funders and fund managers, Douglas & Velcich, where they toyi-toyied and demanded that NAPWA's funding be cut off. This is in line with the TAC's concerted campaign to destroy NAPWA by alleging misuse of donor funds, which auditors have found to be groundless.

"The TAC's credibility has collapsed with the exposure of its financial ties to pharmaceutical front organizations by the South African Traditional Healers Organization (THO), the Kayelitsha branch of SANCO and the Dr. Rath Health Foundation," Nxesi said. "As a pharmaceutical industry lobby, the TAC has its back to the wall now."

Thanduxolo Doro: NAPWA National Spokesperson

CONTACT: NAPWA National Spokesperson

Thanduxolo Doro, Tel: +27(011) 872 0975

Fax: +27(011) 872 1343




'Aids Test Unscientific: Test Kit Makers Sued in Kansas' 24.Apr.2005 10:11


Source:  http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/04/27/

April 27, 2004
Aids Test Unscientific: Test Kit Makers Sued in Kansas

The test kits used to determine "HIV positive" status in patients are
deeply flawed - they were developed on the basis of faulty scientific
methodology and assumptions and are without value in determining
whether a person suffers from "HIV Aids", alleges Kim Marie Bannon in
a civil suit filed under the Consumer Protection Act of the State of
Kansas, US.

Kim Marie Bannon, the courageous woman who is taking on the
multibillion pharma manufacturers, says: I was "diagnosed" in 1992. I spent 10 years doubting yet living with the stigma of conventional AIDS dogma. In April 2002 I stumbled on the Perth Group's article " The Yin and Yang of HIV ." I began studying the issue and eventually started looking for an attorney. I've worked in the legal field in Wichita since 1983, and I feel it is only my excellent reputation with the local bar that enabled me to get a lawyer to take the case. Rest assured I'm not looking for a settlement. I want lots of publicity. I welcome anyone with media contacts to help me get my story out. I plan to have the defendants so totally exposed that a settlement and gag order would do them no good anyway.

I realize that my life might be more peaceful if I just kept my HIV
"status" under wraps and went on with the knowledge that I'm not
going to die from AIDS, but my soul would not be at peace knowing that so many suffer from the orthodox viewpoint. My lawsuit focuses on the
narrow issue of the tests which will hopefully be easier for a jury
to understand than the multitude of issues that will surely eventually
be raised in the whole fiasco. It will provide a precedent upon which
other cases can be built in the future. And if they can't test you,
they can't diagnose you. Others can escape the terror that has been
perpetrated on me, as well as on so many of you.

Contact Kim Marie Bannon at
316-461-2173 (US) mobile phone

If you are interested in the legal details, here is a copy of the
papers filed in court just two weeks ago:


Dennis D. Webb, S.C.I.N. 09881
142 North Mosley, 2nd floor
Wichita, KS 67202
(316) 264-3500

Civil Department

Kim Marie BANNON,

(Pursuant to K.S.A. Chapter 60)

COMES NOW the plaintiff, Kim Bannon, by her counsel Dennis D. Webb,
and for her cause of action, states:

1. Defendant Calypte Biomedical Corporation-Delaware (hereinafter
"CBC") is a corporation duly registered to do business in the state
of California, and may be served by its resident agent John J. Dipietro, 1440 Fourth Street, Berkley, CA 94710.

2. Defendant Roche Diagnostics Corporation (hereinafter "Roche") is a
corporation registered to do business in Kansas and may be served
with process at its resident agent, National Registered Agents of Kansas, Inc., 2101 SW 21st Street, Topeka, KS 66604.

3. Plaintiff Kim Bannon (hereinafter "Bannon") is a resident of
Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas and all relevant acts occurred
within said jurisdiction.

4. In April of 1992, during the course of routine medical diagnostic
testing, Bannon was diagnosed by Dr. Donna Sweet of the Kansas
University School of Medicine, Wichita, Kansas, as carrying the
"Human Immunodeficiency Virus" referred to as HIV, and widely purported to be the cause of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome or AIDS.

5. The testing procedure used to make such a diagnosis included the
"Recombigen EIA Screen-HIV-1 EIA" and the "Cambridge Biotech HIV-1
Western Blot Kit," both manufactured by defendant CBC, which included
a protocol for administration of the test and criteria for assessing
the results of said kits.

6. Dr. Sweet described the results of the CBC testing as
"indisputable" and "classic," and told Bannon she would develop the full spectrum of AIDS within five to seven years and die soon thereafter.

7. In subsequent testing from 1996 to 2003 undertaken at the
direction of Dr. Sweet, Bannon was administered an AMPLICOR HIV-1 Monitor Test Kit manufactured by defendant Roche, which included a protocol and criteria for assessing the results of said kits; all of said tests purportedly confirming the diagnosis of HIV infection.

8. Likewise, the Roche testing was described by Sweet as confirmation
of the HIV diagnosis, and her prognosis of the full spectrum of AIDS
and death within five to seven years.

9. In the context of the medical services and testing described,
Plaintiff was a consumer within the meaning of the Kansas Consumer
Protection Act, K.S.A. 50-623 et seq. (hereinafter KCPA).

10. In the context of the medical services and testing described,
Defendants CBC and Roche were suppliers of consumer goods or services
within the meaning of the KCPA.

11. Plaintiff discovered on April 18, 2002 that the science,
methodology, and assumptions relied upon by defendants CBC and Roche
as the basis for their respective testing and basis for plaintiff's
diagnosis was faulty, without sound medical and/or scientific
confirmation, and an otherwise flawed procedure.

12. Now more than twelve years after the "diagnosis" provided by defendants testing procedures, plaintiff is healthy, asymptomatic,
and wholly free of any sequela of HIV or AIDS.

13. CBC and Roche engaged in deceptive acts and practices within the
meaning of KCPA, K.S.A. 50-626 as follows:

a. [50-626(b)(1)(A)] making representations knowingly or with reason
to know that the goods and/or services included approvals,
characteristics, uses and benefits which they did not have;

b. [50-626(b)(1)(B)] making representations knowingly or with reason
to know that the supplier had certain approval or status which it did
not have;

c. [50-626(b)(1)(D)] making representations knowingly or with reason
to know that the goods and/or services were of a standard which was
materially different from the representation;

d. [50-626(b)(1)(G)] making representations knowingly or with reason
to know that the goods and/or services had uses, benefits or
characteristics which had been substantiated when, in fact, they had
no such benefits;

e. [50-626(b)(2)] the willful use in oral or written representations
of exaggeration, falsehoods, innuendo, or ambiguity as to a material
fact; and

f. [50-626(b)(3)] the willful failure to state a material fact or the
willful concealment, suppression or omission of a material fact.

14. Defendants CBC and Roche engaged in unconscionable acts and
practices within the meaning of the K.S.A. 50-627 as follows:
a. [50-627(b)(1)] taking advantage of the consumer's inability to
protect her interests resulting from an inability to understand the
language of the relevant "agreement."

b. [50-627(b)(6)] making misleading statements of opinion on which
plaintiff relied to her detriment; and

c. [50-627(b)(7)] excluded or attempted to exclude the implied
warranty of fitness for a particular purpose, to wit: that the product or service was an accurate measure for the diagnosis of HIV/AIDS.

15. As a consequence of the unlawful denials by CBC and Roche of the
warranty claims, plaintiff has incurred losses, including but not
limited to: loss of income.

WHEREFORE, plaintiffs pray for judgment as follows:
a. civil penalties of ten thousand dollars ($10,000.00) for each
violation of the KCPA against each of the defendants;

b. injunctive relief prohibiting the defendants from further
representations asserting the suitability of the subject test
products/services; and

c. pecuniary damages suffered as a consequence of the misdiagnosis
including loss of wage/earnings;

d. non-pecuniary damages including mental anguish, pain and
suffering, shame and humiliation resulting from the defendants' unlawful acts;

d. attorney fees pursuant to the Kansas Consumer Protection Act;
together with their costs, and such other and further relief as the
Court shall deem just and equitable.

'Alt-AIDS' 24.Apr.2005 10:20


The Portland Phoenix
November 21 - 28, 2002


When alternative newspapers feature articles that reiterate and adhere to mainstream media's point of view (search for AIDS at www.portlandphoenix.com to read Tony Giampetruzzi's pieces), it forecloses meaningful dialogue on an issue.

The Phoenix's HIV-AIDS series was based entirely on the HIV-AIDS paradigm as promoted and funded by federal government agencies, e.g., NIH and the CDC; pharmaceutical companies and their academic research factories; and public health bureaucrats.

Although second opinions are the foundation of sound medical practice, it is considered treasonous to provide options as to the cause or treatment for AIDS.

Lest we forget, the AIDS phenomena began during the Reagan era, the most reactionary, fundamentalist, and puritanical sexual inquisition in recent history. While the culture wars have marginalized politically incorrect organizations, AIDS patients have been buried beneath an avalanche of deadly bureaucratic political science and epidemiology masquerading as medicine.

Yet, HIV=AIDS opponents have been disparaged and discredited for questioning the notion that Earth's first, and only known, human retrovirus, was related to an African green monkey. And, that HIV caused a rare pneumonia in individuals who engaged in certain socially unacceptable sexual pursuits and it was treatable only with toxic experimental chemotherapy treatments.

While dissenters have been ridiculed, the dishonest behavior of government scientists has been the foundation for the AIDS mousetrap. Epidemiology replaced common sense as social and political science transformed AIDS education into indoctrination; turned counseling into harassment; bent testing into exploitation; and changed clinical trials into a form of morally sanctioned euthanasia.

No other NIH research lab in modern history had been subject to as many misunderstandings and charged with as many violations and foul-ups as Robert Gallo's. The one-time chief of NCI's Tumor Cell Biology lab, Gallo eventually admitted that his HIV lab samples used to determine antibody test results were actually appropriated from a French laboratory. Although never found guilty of criminal fraud, Robert Gallo left NIH having been widely believed to have committed misappropriation, sabotage, scientific fraud, contaminated lab cultures, faked lab journals, unplugged freezers, and manufactured mysterious, misleading documentation slides of his work.

Dr. Zaki Salahuddin, one of Gallo's longtime scientists, was convicted of a felony in connection with his activities at Dr. Gallo's laboratory. Prem Sarin, Gallo's deputy chief and co-author of numerous articles establishing the authenticity of HIV, was charged in 1990 with fraud, perjury, scientific misconduct and later convicted of embezzlement. Mikulus Popovic, Gallo's leading virologist, was found guilty of falsification, misrepresentation, and scientific misconduct. Charges against Popovic were later reversed because of a new federal definition of scientific fraud that was based on intent.

While the rogue's gallery of researchers were rewarded with patents, junkets, and hero status, AIDS patients became subject to draconian measures, e.g., forced testing, forced treatments, insurance purging, contact tracing, coercion, isolation, and for some, criminalization.

Having been recast from victims to villains, many gay men have had to choose lifestyles ranging from acting like celibate monks to being experimental monkeys. Branded as America's most notorious sexual outlaws, how did gays ever expect to defend themselves against insult and assault in a country where abortion caregivers were assassinated, their clinics blockaded and burned, and their patients killed? All in the name of being pro-life.

Yet another undermining aspect of HIV-AIDS has been the role of the military establishment. During the past two decades, the same military organizations entrusted with conducting the nation's primary HIV-AIDS research have been those that entrapped, criminalized, and court-martialed gays.

All HIV-AIDS drugs are screened and selected for pharmaceutical and academic research by the US Army Military Research Institute for Infectious Disease (USAMRIID) and the Frederick Cancer Research Center, Ft. Detrick, MD. It is naive for gay men, or any other minority, to believe that these researchers are interested in "curing" them so that they may return to having what has become regarded as "unsafe sex."

The Walter Reed Army Institute of Research (WRAIR) developed the model that defined the stages of AIDS progression directly leading to the prescription of highly toxic drugs to HIV positive patients. WRAIR also provided the statistical data that determined the initial HIV-positive test results.

The Jackson Institute for the Advancement of Military Medicine served as the primary funding agency for AIDS research during the 1980s. The US Army Retrovirology Program was the major employer of Cambridge Biotech, the company that developed all the HIV screening tests before being forced to share in royalties with the French government.

AIDS activists promoted accelerated clinical trials with staged demonstrations often financed by the pharmaceutical companies that profited the most from a policy change. Also, black church leaders have accepted substantial financial stipends from NIH and other public health organizations to preach "AIDS education" from their pulpits.

While retrovirology is perhaps one of the century's most intellectually bankrupt sciences, twenty years of research has proven that HIV causes anything that a federally funded grant requires.

Clemmer Mayhew III


Article: Corporate Junk Science In The Media (Part 1) By Edward S. Herman 24.Apr.2005 10:27


Prescription drug companies are chemical companies. Some of the same chemical companies making pesticides and herbicides, who are behind these horrific genetically engineered foods, etc., also make prescription drugs? (Pesticides/herbicides were first developed as chemical warfare?) So I would rather have more organic farming which is much safer and healthier for humans, wildlife, the environment, and less chemical farming? Perhaps I would also rather see more natural medicine and less synthetic petro-chemical drugs?

Corporate Junk Science In The Media (Part 1)
By Edward S. Herman

Excerpt from article above:
'Corporate junk science plays an extremely important role in the public relations and regulatory strategies of the chemical industry. It aims, first, to reassure the public that pesticides and other chemicals are not a public health threat and are essential to economic growth and welfare. But it is also designed to create enough confusion and uncertainty among legislators and regulators, as well as the public, to preserve the industry's freedom to pour chemicals into the environment. The industry has been highly successful in pursuit of this two-pronged strategy, based in large measure on its enormous resources and consequent power over politicians, regulators, and scientists on the corporate payroll (as described in "Corporate Sovereignty and [Junk] Science," in November Z).

Also essential to the chemical industry's success has been their ability to influence the media and set the agenda in which the issues are discussed (or ignored). Industry success here has not been total, but it has been remarkable given the public health consequences of virtually unconstrained chemical industry growth and the resultant "epidemic in slow motion" that continues unabated. The industry has succeeded in controlling the deeper agenda, which takes for granted the industry's right to produce and sell chemicals not fully tested for hazards by any independent agency; it's right to do this without any clear industry responsibility for negative outcomes; and its right to chemicalize the environment without full disclosure. These basic assumptions, and the grossly inadequate regulatory process that supposedly protects the public, are not subject to ongoing debate.'

'How industry manipulates public opinion: Why you believe what you believe' 24.Apr.2005 10:36


I have only posted a bit from this very interesting article below. For more, please follow the link below. Also has links within the article for more on certain things.


How industry manipulates public opinion
Why you believe what you believe

'PR (public relations) was created to manipulate public opinion. More and more of what we hear, see and read as "news" is actually PR content. On any given day much of what the media broadcasts or prints as news is provided by the PR industry.

Trust Us We're Experts a new book co-authored by John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton of the Center for Media and Democracy, shows how the world's richest and most powerful corporations do this.

Trust Us We're Experts exposes the shenanigans of the public relations industry, which pays, influences and even invents a surprising number of those experts.

trust us we're experts

There are two kinds of "experts" we're dealing with -- the PR spin doctors behind the scenes and the "independent" experts paraded before the public, scientists who have been hand-picked, cultivated, and paid handsomely to promote the views of corporations which are involved in controversial actions.

"Third parties" set PR apart from advertising. Stauber and Rampton describe how the tobacco industry first hired movie stars to promote cigarettes and then spent millions of dollars to counter findings that cigarettes cause cancer, a strategy based on testimonials and the so-called third-party technique.
"Trust Us We're Experts" also considers the effect big money has on universities and scientific journals, describing instances in which tobacco companies paid 13 scientists $156,000 to write letters to influential medical journals.'

'Exporting Cures, Importing Misery' 24.Apr.2005 11:13


Exporting Cures, Importing Misery
by By Stan Cox, AlterNet
January 19th, 2005

Maybe I'm Just Simple Minded 24.Apr.2005 12:27


after surveying all these long articles in this thread, I realize I really do have a very simplistic relation in mind:

HIV/AIDS ~ Ecological Collapse

I once had a chat with a Chiropractor who choose to practice in the gay district of a major US city. I got on the topic of AIDs with him and whether it was caused by a single virus or a combination of factors. He said, based on his rather extensive experince with young gay and lesbian patients, that the one factor he could absolutely correlate with AIDS and mortality due to AIDS was patient lifestyle. He said the lifestyles of those who, in his experience, were at highest risk included all the elements mentioned in several articles above: malnutrition, heavy use of drugs, lack of sleep, and, he also included low self esteem as a factor.

However, if you take all the symptoms and causes in search of a root cause, then the only thing definitive and inclusive enough resolves into one basic fact: the first glimmerings of global collapse of ecological systems. A most excellent study of this situation may be found in William Kotke: "The Final Empire, The Collapse of Civilization".

Even more than drugs, malnutrition, lack of sleep, or lack of hygenic conditions, it has been said that stress is the biggest killer of them all. Up through the ninteen ninties, high social stress factors seemed mostly concentrated in the gay, lesbian, and certain fringe cultures. However, we are beginning to see the first glimmerings of major economic and political collapse on a global scale. Democratic systems have all but collapsed under the weight of corruption. The leveling of the wage base to the lowest common denominator of the most starving and impovershed nations - the effects of "outsourcing" - threaten to completely bankrupt the middle class of entire first world nations, including the United States.

In fact, in a very dark sense, a victory for knowledge will be had if the rate of AIDS skyrockets concurrent with an astronomical, global rise in homelessness and poverty forcast for the future. Then we will have a much greater clue that stress and environmental conditions cause people's immune systems to break down, not viruses.

Why does 'AIDS' effect the old in Canada and America? 24.Apr.2005 13:16

Aletta Lohmeyer

Cumulative 'AIDS' figures in Canada

What is interesting is that there have only been 65 teenage cases since 1983 in Canada.
Also the 20 to 25 age group is very low too.

This is similar to the U.S. and does not fit an std.

Like America, people over 60 have as much 'AIDS'
(611 cases) as both teenagers AND 20-24 years olds combined (65 teen cases and 573 cases in the 20-24 group).

Seems once again Grannies have gone wild!


Japan, Holland, Sweden and the PHILLIPINES (with 500,00 prostitutes and only 30% condom use) HAVE THE LOWEST 'AIDS' IN THE WORLD


Teens don't get 'AIDS' in America
Teens don't get 'AIDS' in America

simple question about AIDS and malnutrition 24.Apr.2005 14:32

luna moth

What is a word that can be used to describe the symptoms of AIDS and malnutrition?



The malnutrition of people living in Africa is being ignored by corporate media because it is more profitable for pharmaceutical corporations to market "AIDS miracle drugs". The AIDS distraction enables unsustainable export agribusiness, deforestation, mining and other poverty/environmental racism toxin/famine caused nutrition problems to continue, export plantation workers are unable to tend their community land and grow sustainance crops for nutrition..

North American Gay community

Malnutrition is a possible variable in the western consumer diet of meat, refined sugars, starches, etc. Though American consumers have a choice to eat nutritious (unlike most Aficans), many choose not to. Psychological stress from exposure to religious fundamentalist bigotry, rejection by family/community is a major factor not even addressed by the book because it is difficult to measure by scientific method. Drug and alcohol abuse is another unknown variable similar to nutrition. Not all gay men do poppers (nitrites) and drink hard alcohol, yet if people do it effects their health compounded by the psychological abuse. Refined foods, stress from abuse and drug/alcohol abuse are all additive factors that contribute to a weakened immune system..

Not going to argue for the non-existance of "AIDS", though i will argue for greater recognition to be given to effects of malnutrition, toxins, stress/abuse, refined foods, etc. on the weakening of the human immune system. No animal or human prisoner testing needed, just fix the problems (reduce environmental racism, refined foods and abuse of gays, etc.) and observe the results. The predicted outcome is an improved health of both people and the environment, no more deaths from weakened immune systems currently reffered to as "AIDS"..

Don't worry, we'll have plenty of leftover healthy food available for out of work pharmaceutical executives..

nothing special about "AIDS covert op" in medicine, done before! 24.Apr.2005 16:57


same lies, corporate medical power, money making, and depopulation fascism seen here--in polio vaccine covert ops and seen in the U.S. bioweaponry projects:


Title: Plaintiff Boyd Graves v. Defendants United States of America: RELEASE AIDS INFO NOW
Author: update
Date: 2004.02.22 03:28
Description: read the legal brief: "The archives of the U.S. Special Virus program were a part of the FOIA request and appeal, and as such, the complaint filed on December 6, 2002 seeking the full disclosure of the program was within the scope of information' requested...." This is Dr. Graves response to the US's Feb. 13, 2004 letter to him. He is going to court to get this information--which is legally already in the public domain.


search and read, for 'polio vaccines' here at PIMC:


newswire article coverage global 19.Feb.2005 01:43
environment | genetic engineering | health
Polio "Disappearance" Only Statistical Medical Fraud: depopulation covert op via vaccines
author: repost

I'm moving this to the main wire because I think it bears more awareness particularly because for a long time the companies and international programs involved in vaccination programs simultaneously running covert operations of biowarfare connected with eugenics ideologies. This article from The British magazine, The Ecologist, deconstructs the politics around creating the so-called 'polio vaccine success' which is still widely heralded as a success. However, any simple cursory analysis of its history and the effects of the vaccine show that it was a dismal failure and that any success was based on medical fraud of reclassification of expanded cases of polio (filed away under other diseases) to make it appear that polio "went away." The World Health Organization does this to the present, despite skyrocketing 'polio' everywhere. Widely known by the researchers even at the time, this is the story of the cover-up of the century: within this cover up, can be traced the expansion of using knowingly contaminated vaccines for depopulation everywhere.

In short:




Stand for science by all means. That is why you should reject vaccines by the way, instead of accept them.

[from the article:
US Chemtrails + Vaccines + Mosquitoes = Brucella Mycotoxin DEPOPULATION BIOWARFARE, 1950's to the present, author: revealing vector
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/311032.shtml ]


I wouldn't have featured this 24.Apr.2005 17:20

no basis to figure anything out

Unlike, for instance, the effects of capitalism and sprawl and advertising on ordinary people, this subject is without much experiential context for ordinary people. I have heard the allegation that there are multiple inconsistent tests for "AIDS" in different countries made in many places. I have heard it denied.

How could I possibly come to any conclusion about this? I can't go to different places and look over technicians' shoulders while they do these tests.

This debate comes down to which websites you feel like believing. It's worse than "chemtrails." At least you can see the damn things in the sky. (They sure look like water clouds to me.)

Thanks, "Concerned" 24.Apr.2005 18:17


thanks for your post. Truth is, by highlighting all of these "myths"...you're actually exposing a great many people to questions about HIV and AIDS that they probably have not heard before. Thank you!

A Dissident action that just might save your life 24.Apr.2005 22:50

Carl Azcar carlfors@shaw.ca

Hello from Canada,

Four months ago I discovered UT (urine therapy). In my investigation of it, I also found out that it is also being used to combat HIV and AIDS. I am HIV negative myself, but I have lost several friends to AIDS and I know others who are HIV+. I am very surprised that the use of UT is not more widely known in the Gay Community.

I began UT myself, and it has already brought about several very positive results in my own life. My food sensitivities to chocolate and bananas has cleared up completely and I can now enjoy these foods, that used to cause sever migraine headaches, as often as I wish. Also, migraines that I have suffered with since my childhood have stopped, and realize I have had that condition for over 60 years of my life. I have also cured my sinus problems by using urine as a nasal mist, and foot fungus by soaking my feet in urine.

OK, so I am not using it to cure HIV and AIDS, but many others are. And why? because your own urine is the most perfect medicine that your body will ever receive. It is not a filthy throw-away excess of your own body. I know, that is what you were taught. But I would invite you to become informed about UT and to understand the vital role it can play in your life, especially if you are HIV+ or have AIDS.

What you will find out is, your urine contains your DNA, and all of the essential vitamins, minerals and amino acids that are needed for your body - over 200 essential elements. No pharmaceutical company in the world can create or match what your own body has already given you for your own use.

For those of you who are HIV+ or are experiencing full blown AIDS, the evidence is mounting that UT is the one Therapy that can not only save your life but will enable your body to regain its natural immunities. Just to show you how much information is out there, I just put the words "Urine Therapy" on my Yahoo search page and it shows 1,540,000 sites are there to brows for information. Here are three I would recommend to get you started.

For general information: < www.bobsilverstein.com/urine.htm >
For treatment by MD's: < www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/AUIT >
For AIDS testimonials: <  http://usererols.com/martinlara/testimo.html#AID-1 >

And you still have over 1.5 million more sites to go.

Urine Therapy and getting yourself into top physical shape with purified water, an organic diet of nutritional foods and daily exercise is the only way you have to restore yourself to the health that will truly combat HIV and AIDS. It means that you are going to have to stop taking medication that are a sentence of death. It means that you stop smoking, stop drinking and taking party drugs, and that you get the rest and the exercise that your body needs to remain healthy.

And as far as the Urine Therapy is concerned, it won't cost you one penny. There is nothing to buy, you just have to do it. And that my dear friend will be your choice to except or not. Please check it out. It could very well save your life.

May God's love be with you all,

Carl Azcar < www.azcarconnection.com >

Third World 'AIDS' is NOT based on tests 24.Apr.2005 23:55

Paul King

Dear No Basis,

You wrote: -

" I can't go to different places and look over technicians' shoulders while they do these tests. "

The interesting thing is that in almost all the Third World the diagonisis of 'AIDS' is not based on testing (less than 1% testing in South Africa for example) but on the completely absurd Bengui Definition.

As you will see below this definition fits EVERY SINGLE empidemic disease and condition in poor countries.

"AIDS' is simply the old diseases caused by poverty given a glossy new name and image and vast profit potential for multi national corporations like the criminal Glaxco Wellcom company.

The Bangui Definition

In 1985, the World Health Organization called a meeting in Bangui, the
capital of the Central African Republic, to define African AIDS. The
meeting was presided over by CDC official Joseph McCormick. He wrote
about it in his book "Level 4 Virus Hunters of the CDC," saying, "If I
could get everyone at the WHO meeting in Bangui to agree on a single,
simple definition of what an AIDS case was in Africa, then, imperfect as
definition might be, we could actually start counting the cases..." The
result was that African AIDS would be defined by physical symptoms:
fever, diarrhea, weight loss and coughing or itching. ("AIDS in Africa: an

epidemiological paradigm." Science, 1986).

In Sub-Saharan Africa, about 60 percent of the population lives and
dies without safe drinking water, adequate food or basic sanitation. A
September, 2003 report in the Ugandan Daily "New Vision" outlined the
situation in Kampala, a city of approximately 1.3 million inhabitants,
which, like most tropical countries, experiences seasonal flooding. The
report describes "heaps of unclaimed garbage" among the crowded houses in

the flood zones and "countless pools of water [that] provide a breeding
ground for mosquitoes and create a dirty environment that favors

"Latrines are built above water streams. During rains the area
residents usually open a hole to release feces from the latrines. The rain
washes away the feces to streams, from where the [area residents] fetch
water. However, not many people have access to toilet facilities. Some
defecate in polythene bags, which they throw into the stream." They
call these, "flying toilets."

The state-run Ugandan National Water and Sewerage Corporation states
that currently 55 percent of Kampala is provided with treated water, and
only 8 percent with sewage reclamation.

Most rural villages are without any sanitary water source. People wash
clothes, bathe and dump untreated waste up and down stream from where
water is drawn. Watering holes are shared with animal populations, which
drink, bathe, urinate and defecate at the water source. Unmanaged human
waste pollutes water with infectious and often deadly bacteria.
Stagnant water breeds mosquitoes, which bring malaria. Infectious
dysentery, cholera, TB, malaria and famine are the top killer in Africa.
But in 1985, these conditions defined AIDS.

Hope this helps you understand what is going on.

Best wwishes,

Paul King

re:concerned 25.Apr.2005 02:06


I just wanted to mention that many sources say that in the US the fastest growing group of people infected with AIDS is women ( http://academic.cerrocoso.edu/health-careers/articles/2001august.htm). I also wanted to mention regarding the statement about women primarily contracting HIV through sex with infected men ( this isn't really relevant to the debate)--I have heard that women most commonly contract HIV through rape by infected men (I;ll have to get back to you with sources).
concerned said:MYTH: The distribution of AIDS cases casts doubt on HIV as the cause. Viruses are not gender-specific, yet only a small proportion of AIDS cases are among women.

FACT: The distribution of AIDS cases, whether in the United States or elsewhere in the world, invariably mirrors the prevalence of HIV in a population. In the United States, HIV first appeared in populations of homosexual men and injection-drug users, a majority of whom are male. Because HIV is spread primarily through sex or by the exchange of HIV-contaminated needles during injection-drug use, it is not surprising that a majority of U.S. AIDS cases have occurred in men (U.S. Census Bureau, 1999; UNAIDS, 2000).

Increasingly, however, women in the United States are becoming HIV-infected, usually through the exchange of HIV-contaminated needles or sex with an HIV-infected male. The CDC estimates that 30 percent of new HIV infections in the United States in 1998 were in women. As the number of HIV-infected women has risen, so too has the number of female AIDS patients in the United States. Approximately 23 percent of U.S. adult/adolescent AIDS cases reported to the CDC in 1998 were among women. In 1998, AIDS was the fifth leading cause of death among women aged 25 to 44 in the United States, and the third leading cause of death among African-American women in that age group (NIAID Fact Sheet: HIV/AIDS Statistics).

In Africa, HIV was first recognized in sexually active heterosexuals, and AIDS cases in Africa have occurred at least as frequently in women as in men. Overall, the worldwide distribution of HIV infection and AIDS between men and women is approximately 1 to 1 (U.S. Census Bureau, 1999; UNAIDS, 2000).

Don't have to be 'contaminated' as vaccines *are* contamination? 25.Apr.2005 05:14


Thanks for the post regarding vaccines! I look forward to reading more from the links provided. Yes, have read that many of the different diseases for which some claim that vaccines helped to eradicate were already on the decline before the introduction of vaccines through a better understanding of sanitation, hygiene, nutrition, etc.? That if you look at the statistical data does not match up with the claims being made by some promoting vaccines? Read that with this big flu epidemic in the early nineteen hundreds which is often cited, illness was actually happening after a big world wide vaccination campaign, rates of infection were much higher in military populations where many folks were vaccinated vs. civilian populations where not as many were vaccinated? Some folks who were living at the time write and say that no one in their family was vaccinated, and no one in their family got sick even though they were helping sick folks, etc.? Sounds like some more toxic drug hooey?

Below, please find a few more links on what some different folks are saying about the very different historical accounts of different illnesses and vaccines, and what the heck is in some of these things. Very different than much mainstream information that is fer sure. Can't remember all of the details, but from what I have read, over a billion dollars has been paid out here in the U.S. to those who have been injured by vaccines? So if this is the case, if vaccines are so safe why has over a billion (with a 'b') dollars been paid out for injuries? This is not being paid by the manufacturers, but through a fee which is tacked onto the vaccines by the consumers?

Here is a question I have which is raised in one of the articles below. Apparently, some folks have a syndrome where they cannot even produce antibodies yet can still recover from infections at about the same rate as others who can produce antibodies? Anyone know more about this? If so, perhaps immunity is much more complicated than just being able to produce antibodies to something anyway? If so, kind of blows the whole basis for the vaccination theory? What about this antibodies being cross-reactive? And after seeing some pics on the CDC site of some 'serious adverse reactions' (including death) to some small pox vaccines and reading about what the heck all is in these things, I will think twice, thank you!

'Dispelling Vaccination Myths'

'Are Vaccines Vegan? What Are They Made Of and How Are They Produced?'

'"Expert" Believes Infants Can Tolerate 10,000 Vaccines'

'Are Vaccines Really Safe and Effective?'

'Vaccines: know the risks'

'The Vaccine Debate
What's happening?'

Why I Never Get Flu Shots

'91 Memo Warned of Mercury in Shots'
Los Angeles Times - Myron Levin

'The Avian Flu and Drugless Doctors'

'CDC, Media Hype The Flu - Facts Show Different Picture

More articles on different medical, drug issues 25.Apr.2005 05:54


And here are a few more articles below on issues surrounding more different medical and chemical drug issues of possible interest. I have included some links at the bottom for more information on genetically engineered foods, organisms, for those of you who may not be so familiar with the issues surrounding this. Anyone else read about some trying to bundle genetically engineered food junk with 'AIDS' relief packages in some places? Know more about this?

I forgot to mention in a previous post that pesticides/herbicides are also petrochemical products? Prescription drugs are also petrochemical products? Also read that much chlorine is used in the production of prescription drugs? Some are calling for a ban on all organochlorines as they are so bad for the environment? Also using several other toxic chemicals in their production? We humans are part of the environment, right? Many claim that the majority of prescription drugs do not do what they claim they do, that treating much illness with poisons is really not the best way to go? That prescription drugs are one of the leading causes of death in the U.S. every year? That many ideas employed in chemical synthetic drugs are based on junk science, backward approaches to 'health?' Often treating symptoms rather than underlying causes? Often very different approaches in much mainstream allopathic medicine than in, say, holistic medicine to illness? There are safe/safer alternatives to most if not all of these toxic synthetic drugs, much, much safer natural antibotics, etc.? In addition to the information on prescription drug production and water and ground, environmental, contamination found in the article I posted earlier, 'Exporting Cures, Importing Misery,' have read about big problems associated with prescription drugs and pesticides which are estrogenic (mimic estrogen) polluting water systems, causing birth deformities, reproductive organ abnormalities, in frogs, other aquatic life?

Did I read that aspartame was being put in some vaccines even? (Does the blood need an artificial sweetner along with that?) Well, read this aspartame is really not something one might want to put in one's body in any case? Was developed by a chemical company where Donald Rumsfeld was the the CEO at the time? Also read something about how Donald Rumsfeld was also more recently, or still, involved in helping to head up a company in California which is apparently working on the 'latest and greatest' in 'AIDS' drugs? Anyone know more about this? Many of those in the Bush admin with ties to the pharmaceutical industry?

Also, think there is an article below on the importance of friendly bacteria. Just as chemical agriculture can wreak havoc on different micro-organisms in the soil, etc., synthetic chemical medicine can wreak havoc on friendly and essential micro-organisms in the body? Many write that friendly bacteria which is found through the body is absolutely essential to immunity? Helps to protect tissues, helps to break down, metabolize food, produce different vitamins, etc.? Some claim that could increase longevity much by better understanding the role of friendly bacteria in immunity?

Evidence in Vioxx Suits Shows Intervention by Merck Officials
New York Times
April 24, 2005

FDA Chooses Drug Industry Health Over Public Health
by Ritt Goldstein

'Tamoxifen: A Major Medical Mistake?
by Sherrill Sellman
Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 5, #4 (June - July 1998),'

Millions of Unnecessary Hysterectomies:
Old News / Big Business / Ruined Lives

Revisiting Accepted Wisdom in the Management of Breast Cancer
Harriet Beinfield, LAc, and Malcolm S. Beinfield, MD, FACS

Profiting Off of Breast Cancer
by Allison Sloan
Source URL:  http://www.thegreenguide.com/doc.mhtml?i=60&s=sloan1

'Think Before You Pink'

Mammogram Radiation Debate
Cancer Solutions: Rife, Energy Medicine, and Medical Politics
by Barry Lynes
APPENDIX P: The Depths of Deceit Mammography

Another from the site above on cancer mistreatment:

'Doctors Are The 3rd Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 225,000 Deaths Every Year'

'Drug firms must publish risk data'
Press Association
Friday October 15, 2004 4:58 AM

'The DSM: Fact or Fiction?'

'Friendly Bacteria' by Leo Galland M.D., F.A.C.N

----- Genetic Engineering -----
Information resources for more on the many problems associated with genetically engineered foods, gmos, below.

Greenpeace: 'Say No to Genetic Engineering:'

The Sierra Club: 'Genetic Engineering:'

GM Watch

The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods

What else? The Center for Food Safety, Friends of the Earth, Save Organic Foods, etc.

re: concerned 25.Apr.2005 06:08


Ha! Ha! Like I am going to necessarily believe much coming from the CDC, or the FDA, NIH, USDA, etc.?

Images of serious vaccine adverse reactions 25.Apr.2005 06:55


Here is something on the CDC web site which I will surely believe: photos of serious vaccine adverse reactions? Some 'serious adverse reactions' even including death? So let's take perhaps healthy children with no signs of illness and inject them with some toxic junk which might cause 'serious adverse reactions' such as these below? Check out the photos on the page below if you think you have the stomach for it?

'Vaccine Reaction Images:'

(Trying to post this again. Hope it does not come through more than once!)

support the >> Aids Critics Keywords Campaign 25.Apr.2005 07:19

Hugo Webber

Dear Reader,

You may be new to the aids-critical discussion, or perhaps you have come to your own conclusions already. At any rate, since there are so many scientific questions, which are subject to questioning, please add YOUR COMMENTS to any of the ongoing threads worldwide...

With best wishes
Hugo Webber

For more info see here >>

Sydney Indymedia (ongoing discussion)
HIV=AIDS 'hypothesis' pt.3

Irish Indymedia
Why Bono and HIV/AIDS Inc will be stopped

San Diego Indymedia
Anniversary of a Medical Tragedy

South Africa Indymedia
23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

Bristol Indymedia / UK
23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

Melbourne Indymedia / Australia
23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

Perth Indymedia / Australia
23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

Sydney Indymedia / Australia
23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

India Indymedia
23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

Austria Indymedia
23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY
(many people speak english there, so even if this is a german language board, add your comments.)

German dissident forum
(not very active, shows that the number of aids-critical people in germany is not all that big. could do with some fresh input. Needs registration, but the moderator speaks english)

To search, use any combination of aids-critical keywords >>
aids critics # aids controversy # dr gallo critics # azt critics # aids critics books # aids lawsuits # aids court cases # aids censorship # critical virology # hiv aids censorship # hiv-aidsaids critics # aids dissidetns # hiv critics # dr gallo lawsuits # azt toxicity # haart toxicity # interferon toxicity # dr gallo court case(s) # hiv test false positive # aids lies # hep-c critics # hiv-hcv critics # hiv test critics # aids war # aids keywords # robert gallo critics # critical virologists # koch postulates # aids critics keywords campaign #

Aids Critics Keywords Campaign >>

I lost my mother to this despicable industry 25.Apr.2005 10:03

Jon Luca jonluca@earthtones.com

My mother was diagnosed HIV positive when I was 14, they gave her AZT, and, inevitably
she died when I was 19. I had strong suspicions about the medical...I mean Pharmaceutical
industries all along. But when I found out that the FDA originally deemed AZT too toxic
for Cancer patients I was so angry I couldn't see straight. Even if there was such an immunity
supressing virus, why the fuck would they give people poison to fight that virus. And they
don't even have to test people in Africa anymore. It's evil.

Article link correction. Also, more on different toxic chemicals. 25.Apr.2005 10:14


I was checking some of the links I posted earlier and found an error and have corrected this for the link below. Also, since we are discussing the chemical industry, thought some of you might be interested in this release below from Pesticide Action Network North America, < http://www.panna.org>, about lawn chemicals as well.

'Doctors Are The 3rd Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 225,000 Deaths Every Year'

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: PANUPS: Refuse to Use Lawn Chemicals
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:50:23 -0700
From: PANUPS < panups@topica.email-publisher.com>
Reply-To: < panna@panna.org>

Pesticide Action Network Updates Service

Refuse to Use Lawn Chemicals
April 15, 2005

This spring, two national campaigns highlight the risks of lawn and garden pesticides. With evidence that exposure to lawn care chemicals presents health risks to children and pets and pollutes water and the environment, both campaigns ask that households switch to non-toxic alternatives. The Toxics Action Center in Boston has targeted TruGreen ChemLawn, the nation's largest provider of lawn care services, and urges consumers to "Refuse to Use ChemLawn." The National Coalition for Pesticide-Free Lawns asks consumers to use non-toxic alternatives, urge retailers to stock non-toxic lawn care products, and pressure public officials for protection from the aesthetic use of pesticides.

A report by the Toxics Action Center reveals ChemLawn's aggressive marketing practices and analyzes the 32 pesticide products the company markets to its household customers. More than half of the products include ingredients identified by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) or the World Health Organization as possible carcinogens, one third contain known or suspected endocrine disruptors, and more than a quarter contain reproductive toxins. Over 40% of the chemicals on ChemLawn's list contain ingredients banned in other countries, and all of the products in their arsenal pose threats to water supplies, aquatic organisms, and non-target insects.

Each year, homeowners apply at least 90 million pounds of pesticides to their lawns and gardens. Home use of pesticides has risen 42% between 1998 and 2001 and now represents the only growth sector of the U.S. pesticide market. Pesticides are also applied more intensively for lawn care, with applications rates between 3.2 to 9.8 pounds per acre for lawns, as opposed to agricultural averages of 2.7 pounds per acre.

Importantly, this intensive pesticide use occurs where children-more vulnerable than adults to the effects of pesticide exposure-live and play. The Toxic Action Center report notes that "children's internal organs are still developing and maturing and their enzymatic, metabolic, and immune systems provide less natural protection than those of an adult." Researchers are increasingly identifying several especially vulnerable stages of child development, including fetal and adolescent developmental windows, in which chemical exposures can permanently alter future development.

Pesticides applied on residential and commercial lawns are known to migrate indoors. An EPA study found that residues from outdoor pesticides are tracked in by pets and people's shoes, and can increase the pesticide loads in carpet dust as much as 400-fold. Pesticides have also been found to persist for years within homes, where they do not degrade from exposure to sunlight or rain.
TruGreen ChemLawn sells its services through aggressive telemarketing campaigns, one of which was an arrangement with the US Youth Soccer program to market services to the parents of soccer-playing kids. Under pressure from public health and environmental groups, US Youth Soccer ended its relationship with TruGreen ChemLawn in January of this year. A number of states have penalized the company for its aggressive and misleading marketing.

Both consumer campaigns emphasize the availability of non-toxic lawn care alternatives. Groups like the Northeast Organic Farming Association (NOFA) have programs to regularly train and certify professionals in pesticide-free landscaping services. The Coalition for Pesticide-Free Lawns, representing groups across the nation, notes the number of communities that have adopted a precautionary approach, including a Natural Yard Care Program by local government in the Seattle area, and the 70 Canadian cities that have restricted or banned the aesthetic use of pesticides.

Visit  http://www.RefuseToUseChemLawn.org/for a copy of their report and to sign the Refuse to Use ChemLawn pledge.

Visit the Pesticide Free Lawns on the Beyond Pesticides website at  http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticidefreelawns/ and sign the pledge.

Sources: Refuse to Use ChemLawn, Be Truly Green, Why Lawn Care Pesticides are Dangerous to Your Children, Pets and the Environment, Matthew Wilson and Jay Rasku, Toxics Action Center, March 2005, 44 Winter Street, Boston, MA 02108, Backgrounder, National Coalition for Pesticide Free Lawns, Beyond Pesticides,  http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticidefreelawns.

Contact: Toxics Action Center,  info@toxicsaction.org, phone 617-292-4821, Beyond Pesticides, phone 202-543-5450, Defenders of Wildlife 202-772-0237

PANUPS is a weekly email news service providing resource guides and reporting on pesticide issues that don't always get coverage by the mainstream media. It's produced by Pesticide Action Network North America, a non-profit and non-governmental organization working to advance sustainable alternatives to pesticides worldwide. You can join our efforts! Visit  http://www.panna.org

i trust what i see 25.Apr.2005 16:45

catherine vajda

i keep reading about how aids is an epidemic among the young and all sorts of scare stories but i don't know anyone with aids nor do i know anyone who does.

where are these young people with aids?

they must be very will hidden.

i can;t say i know if aids is real or not but i can say that i believe the whole thing is exaggerated out of all proportion.

just my view for what it is worth


Re: I trust what I see 25.Apr.2005 17:22


if more people were as level-headed as yourself, we may not be where we are now with "HIV" and "AIDS". If "AIDS" can't fit the definition of mass hysteria, then nothing ever will.

You hit it on the nail Catherine 25.Apr.2005 17:24

Paul King

Look how the CDC tried to hide the fact that teenagers in America (and Canada) simply don't get so called 'AIDS'.

Why make 13 year old a catagory on their own? A clear case of deception.
Why make 13 year old a catagory on their own? A clear case of deception.

More articles 26.Apr.2005 12:12


And here below is another perspective on some of these medical, synthetic chemical drug issues if you have not read about this below . Have also included some links to some articles on different perspectives on/problems with pharmaceuticals, mental health, different approaches to, thoughts on different health issues?

(Here are some questions. How many folks are dying on the roads, through car crashes, etc., in the U.S. every year? How many are committing suicide? How many are being injured or killed by accidental poisonings by household and yard chemical consumer products? How many are injured or killed through work-related activities? Yes and do not see how anyone could have good health without good nutrition, enough dietary fiber, clean water, etc.?

RE: friendly bacteria
Read that alcohol and caffeine can also kill friendly bacteria in the gut in addition to things like antibiotics? 'Antibiotics' means 'against life' while 'probiotics' means 'for life?' Friendly bacteria are considered 'probiotics?' If interested in learning more on this, I would recommend doing a search for more information. Try doing a search on something like '+vegan +friendly +bacteria' or '+vegan +probiotics?')

"Complaint Against Genocide and Other Crimes Against Humanity Committed in Connection With The Pharmaceutical 'Business With Disease' And The Recent War Against Iraq"

Below from page above:

'Complaint Against Genocide and Other Crimes Against Humanity Committed in Connection With The Pharmaceutical 'Business With Disease' And The Recent War Against Iraq

This complaint is submitted to the International Criminal Court by Matthias Rath MD and others on behalf of the people of the world
The Hague, June 14, 2003
To the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court,
Senator Louis Moreno-Ocampo,
c/o International Court, Maanweg 174
NL-2516 AB Den Haag/The Hague


This complaint brings before the International Court of Justice (ICC) the greatest crimes ever committed in the course of human history. The accused are charged with causing injury to and the death of millions of people through the 'business with disease', war crimes and other crimes against humanity. These crimes fall under the jurisdiction of the Interna-tional Criminal Court.

The accused know that they will be held accountable for these crimes and they have therefore embarked on a global campaign to undermine the authority of the ICC in order to put themselves above international law and continue their crimes to the detriment of all mankind.

Therefore, the current complaint must be considered by the ICC with utmost urgency. Moreover, every natural person and every government is hereby called upon to join this complaint with the goal to once and for all terminate these crimes.'

------ More articles from the Dr. Rath web site below ------

Protect Your Health! Act Now!'
An Open Letter from Dr. Rath:

'The History of the "Business With Disease"'

'Number One Priority for the new Democratic Administration
A Patients' Bill of Rights'

From the page above:
'Note the TIG's fifth letter (PDF, 29 kB), and prepare to be horrified
by its sixth (PDF, 155 kB), which covers the very latest research
findings on the crippling and sometimes fatal neurological and other
damage that AZT causes to unborn and newly born babies.'

------ More articles ------

And below are some more sites I am reading on more prescription drug pill pushing and the mass drugging of children in the U.S.? As well as a few more on mental health issues?

Bush-Backed Drug Marketing Schemes

Medical Fascism: Courts Order Kids to Take Drugs

Paula J. Caplan and Lisa Cosgrove (Editors)
Published October, 2004
Jason Aronson/Rowman & Littlefield Publishers

On Being Sane In Insane Places
David L. Rosenhan
(This one above, if I remember correctly, has some pretty funny parts.)

No. 2 - September 2004
By Alice Halmi

What is Critical Psychiatry

'Articles Critical of Psychiatry'

Critical Psychology: An Introduction
Edited by
Dennis Fox & Isaac Prilleltensky

------ Some more articles on related issues? ------

by Someshwar Singh'
More articles on this:  http://www.twnside.org.sg/access_7.htm

'Stopping Biopiracy'
By Vandan Shiva
Sept. 6, 1999

Biopiracy in the Amazon

Now licensed in California, naturopaths hope to win some respect
Los Angeles Times
January 17, 2005
By Hilary E. MacGregor, Times Staff Writer

Mainstream medicine is beginning to explore the aisles of botanicas
The shops, burgeoning in the Southland, sell herbs and remedies long
used by Latinos.
By Hilary MacGregor, Times Staff Writer
Los Angeles Times

Natural Herbal Healing

Depression & Importance of Adequate Nutrition

Exercise Better Than Drugs For Depression

Link TV Program: Ayurveda: The Art of Being
< http://www.linktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=ayurveda>

Sterilization and Abortion
by Betsy Hartmann

Just a way to promote abstinence 26.Apr.2005 15:25


Seems aids was just another scare tactic to promote abstinence. They did it step by step and now Bush has taken it to its final conclusion.

Damn religious right!

Goth - You make a great point 26.Apr.2005 22:33

Paul King

Dear Goth,

Your short post is first rate in that it highlight the fundamental agenda (other than vast profit) behind so called 'AIDS'.

The South African Minister long ago called 'AIDS' the American Invention to Discourage Sex, and like similar campaigns that preceded it, it's puritan roots are clear.

In the early 70's there was a headline story about 'Vietnamese Clap'. We were told there was no cure and that it was fatal and would be a huge epidemic. It was pure nonsense. Then there was cold sores (Herpes). KLOS radio in Los Angeles did a broadcast saying it would infect one in three people within five years and caused brain damage and blindness. Where are the millions of retarded people with white walking sticks?

Another hoax.

'AIDS' is the best yet as by calling 29 real diseases 'AIDS' and then prescribing immune suppressing drugs the impression of reality can be maintained. A medical blunder turned into socio/political windfall for the religious right. Much of the progressive left even bought the lie.

'AIDS' is in my opinion the most evil distortion of science since Col. Ishi and his experiments in Manchuri during WWII.

Best wishes,

Paul King
P.S. We would love to have you as an active DAG member
Love without fear
Love without fear

Death statistics, and from where do the ingredients for prescription drugs come? 27.Apr.2005 05:15


Hi! Okay, I have read different numbers on the number of deaths caused annually by properly taken, properly prescribed prescription drugs in the U.S. and the numbers are staggering? Have read numbers anywhere from approx. 100,000 deaths a year to up to and over 250,000? The number of injuries much higher than that? So what is the claimed number of 'AIDS' deaths each year in the U.S.? Heard more recenty about the high number of hospital infections as well? Heard folks in Canada commenting about how there was such a scare about this 'SARS' (some say another scam) when there were only a few cases while there were thousands of hospital infections and were is the all of the news, the hype, etc., for this which was statistically a much bigger and real problem? I mean, sheesh, something like forty thousand deaths on the roads in the U.S. each year? Is that right?

Here is another question. I have to do some more research on this. If anyone has any information on the source of different ingredients in prescription drugs would be much appreciated.

I have read very sad things about how perhaps some who are producing other things end up with toxic waste and rather than having to pay to have it disposed of properly, etc., some are selling it back to the public by putting it into other products or by making false claims about the waste? <sarcasm>If this is so, why pay to dispose of waste properly when one can make money selling it?</sarcasm>

Have heard that fluoride often put in water supplies supposedly for dental health reasons may be a toxic waste by-product of the production of some fertilizers and other industrial processes by-product waste? Is it fluoride which is listed as a toxin on the EPA web site between arsenic and lead? Different places have banned the addition of fluoride to public water supplies? Some claim medicating an entire population in such a way is a violation of human rights? Does not take into account those at higher risk of experiencing problems, children, the elderly, etc.? If someone wants to use fluoride on their teeth can use fluoride toothpaste, and those who don't won't have to have in in their water, in some cases? Some claim that the amount in water is small enough not to cause problems, but does not take into account the many other sources of fluoride to which a person might be exposed (toothpaste, drinks, etc.)? Read about how there are warnings on much toothpaste not to eat it in any case? Why use something in your mouth all of the time which you are not supposed to swallow? (Will have to find this article I read on how parts of Florida have been devastated by toxic phosphate fertilizer production?) Read fluoride has been linked to thyroid problems, can cause dental mottling, bone abnormalities, even read can cause tendons to crystallize, among other things? Used to use it in some misguided psychiatry in attempt to cause mood change? What is the technical name for 'Prozac?' 'Fluoxetine?' What does the 'fluo' in both 'fluoride' and 'fluoxetine' signify? Also, have read several times now about some getting rid of other toxic waste by putting it in fertilizers which is then sold to consumers? So read that prescription drugs contain petroleum by-products? So what does this mean exactly? What is petroleum cracking?

Well, it is certainly not pleasant to think about how many toxic chemicals are being produced, used and perhaps not always disposed of properly(?) here in the U.S. as well as throughout the world? Toxic chemicals in cosmetics, toxic chemicals used in the home and yard, pesticide drift moving pesticides from agricultural areas to other areas, etc.? Toxic dish soaps? Toxic chemicals in all kinds of 'medicinal' and personal care products? What was that toxic salad bar thing I think in the seventies? Some were spraying sulfites on salad bars as a perservative? Some are extremely allergic to sulfites and some died after eating at these sulfite sprayed salad bars? Common preservative used in alcohol (can get wine without sulfites)? Kids taking over the counter cold or allergy formulas and using the ingredients to make speed? An ingredient used in anti-freeze being used a skin moisturizer? Studies linking breast cancer to pesticides/herbicides?

Many claim that the majority of cancers are caused by environmental factors, very small percentage linked to heredity, genetics? But if some in the chemical industry are perhaps contributing to negative 'environmental factors' might be happy for some to look to genetics or viruses as causes of illness?

RE: I lost my mother to this despicable industry 27.Apr.2005 05:59


Very sad to hear about your mother. I was recently talking to a friend whose mother went in for a routine medical exam and was told she should have a colonoscopy given her age, etc.? Not because she had any symptoms of any colon problems? Had the procedure done, was then told that she had 'precancerous polyps' and should have surgery? She had the surgery to remove the 'precancerous polyps,' went home, started bleeding, went back to the hospital, had some more surgery, and at the end of the day ended up with no colon, a colostomy? No signs of problems one day, no colon the next? How much did the exam, the surgeries, etc., cost? Also read, and want to read more on this of course, that often when women are told they have a malignant breast tumor and are given surgery, other treatment for breast cancer, might not of ever of even had cancer? How is cancer diagnosed? Was just reading another article which was about something else, but started out with something about a woman trying to get healthier after suffering health problems after being *misdiagnosed* with cancer and going through some toxic therapy? How does someone 'misdiagnose' cancer? Can read about the controversy surrounding this one case of this child and cancer on the Dr. Rath web site as well. I don't know. I can only tell you what I read, but seems there are some big questions in any case?

Someone wrote something about folks doing some homework, that there was information on AIDS to be found on the CDC site, etc.? Well, I did call the CDC actually and I asked them if there were other things which could cause a positive result on some of these 'HIV' tests? And I was told 'yes,' and given a list of some other things which could cause a positive test result? I also read a package insert for one of these tests and found information on other things causing a positive test result as well? That is what some dissidents are saying, right? If you don't believe some of what is being suggested, go and check it out for yourself? So if some of these tests are supposedly testing for antibodies which are *specific* to 'HIV', 'HIV antibodies,' then how the heck could these other things cause a positive result is my question? I was also given information on other/alternative approaches to the treatment of 'HIV/AIDS,' and was told about this publication _Poison by Prescription_ when I called one of the hotlines? (Was either one of the hotlines or the CDC which gave me this publication information. Have it in my notes somewhere.) Also told me about _Debating AZT_, as well? So if it just so outrageous that anyone might question some of the mainstream stuff surrounding this, that someone might want to hear about alternatives to toxic drugs, etc., then why would these folks be giving out this information?

Answering one of N's questions 27.Apr.2005 17:06

Wilhelm Godschalk wgods@xs4all.nl

Dear N,

The last question of your post was: "So if it just so outrageous that anyone might question some of the mainstream stuff surrounding this, that someone might want to hear about alternatives to toxic drugs, etc., then why would these folks be giving out this information?"

Fortunately, the answer is rather hope-giving: Not everyone working at the CDC is a crook. Even most of the scientists working in the field are not crooks. HINT: These are the people NOT making the big bucks. Watch out for their bosses, though! That's what these humble underlings are doing too, if they want to keep their jobs.
There are still a lot of honest scientists around. But ever since the 'War on Cancer' in the early seventies, government pressure on scientific research has increased dramatically. Either you toe the line, or no money. And without money, you cannot do your work. So many scientists practice passive resistence. They still publish their lab results; only, they have to add the prescribed dose of 'HIV' to their 'Results and Conclusion' section. And they will give you an honest answer, if you ask them a question. But don't ask a Gallo, a Fauci, a Tramont, or a Wainberg. Yes Virginia, there are evil people...

Mark Wainberg 29.Apr.2005 07:02


Dear Wilhelm, do you mean that Mark Wainberg knew that 3TC is an antioxidant? I think that the 3-oxathiolan ring is enough quickly hydrolysed, so it gives a good amount of free thiol. More, the only metabolit of 3TC is the oxidized S-oxy-3TC, and this study

 link to www.aidsonline.com

shows that AZT reacts with 3TC (AZT is an oxidant):
they quote :

First, zidovudine has been shown in vitro to reduce the amount of lamivudine triphosphate formed in phytohemagglutinin-stimulated PBMC and U937 cells [12,13]. We hypothesize that the probable mechanism of this inhibition is the ability of zidovudine to increase dCTP pools in stimulated and resting cells, which results in feedback inhibition of deoxycytidine kinase activity.

and they hypothetise a complicated mecanism to explain this, while the redox hypothese is far more simple.

RADIO & VIDEO LINKS 29.Apr.2005 13:33

Hugo Webber

Hi all,

let me say a BIG THANK YOU to the editorial board here at PORTLAND INDYMEDIA !!!
It is really GREAT that you have placed the ANNIVERSARY of a MEDICAL TRAGEDY at your frontpage.

The various messages in this thread show, that there are many, many people concerned about the TRUTH with regard to HIV-AIDS and other medical topics. It will take some time to digest all the information, but i surely will come back again and again to read and check the various links.

Here are two about aids critical RADIO and VIDEO documentaries.




With these radio- and videolinks, you have enough material to organize a small HEALTH-INFOTAINMENT PARTY. Pass the radio- and video links onto your friends...

If you haven't got the technical resources, consider that many people have the latest tec-features because they like playing games on the net, listen to music, watch videos or are even active artists or musicians.

So ask a friend or a "friend of a friend" if they would help with such a HEALTH-INFOTAINMENT PARTY. Start small, even 5-10 people initially will be enough to get the discussion started "IS HIV really the cause for AIDS?"

Try to get in touch with musicians, artists, journalists, students, health-care- and social workers, political activists and help spreading the word: "THERE ARE MANY OPEN SCIENTIFIC QUESTIONS about HIV-AIDS"


Be persistent!!! The 23rd April 2005 was NOT intended as an ONE DAY ACTION but may be understood as the beginning of an ever increasing CAMPAIGN FOR TRUTH about "hiv-aids"

There are plenty of recourses on the internet, but we, the aids-critical activists have to be outgoing into general forums and other available internet platforms, so that more and more people become aware of the "AIDS CONTROVERSY"


Kind Regards
Hugo webber

ps: if anyone should know of more RADIO or VIDEO links, please post here

More video and radio links 29.Apr.2005 17:21

Wilhelm Godschalk wgods@xs4all.nl

Does Mark Wainberg know anything? 29.Apr.2005 17:39

Wilhelm Godschalk

Dear Jean,

No, I didn't mean specifically that Mark Wainberg knows 3TC is an antioxidant. I doubt Mark Wainberg knows much of anything chemical. But if it were up to him, we both (and thousands of others) would be in jail. He's that kind of guy.
I read the article you quoted. It's OK, not great, but OK. It is a typical pharmacological study of AZT and 3TC in human guinea pigs. If you would cut out all the crap about HIV, then it would be a decent paper. But they have to contort themselves into the most absurd state of mind to come up with this complicated hypothesis, just to please their HIV boss. I like your far more simple explanation much better, namely that zidovudine oxidizes lamivudine.
These people are so completely frozen into their (or their boss's) beliefs that they produce a lot of hocus pocus, ignoring the fact that there is an old science named chemistry that has its own simple and straightforward laws.

Best wishes,


Interesting string - Food for thought 29.Apr.2005 19:32

Brandon Wilks

I have learned a great deal from this very long string of posts )longest i have seen here in quite a time). Making a conclusion is difficult but there is no doubt that a lot about what the mass media is telling us about AIDS in exaggerated nonsense and intended to serve the interests of their advertisers and political pressure groups like the Moral Majority.

The most interesting fact was not a post but the WHO chart of deaths among children. It showed AIDS only accounted for 3% of all death amound children Worldwide. Apathy Kills.org runs a TV commercial saying that 25 million kids have died of AIDS. If the 3% WHO figure is correct that means nearly a billion children have died of all the diseases listed by the World Health Org. Hardly seems likely to me. Someone is lying through their teeth. My money is on ApaathyOrg.com.

You may not have completely changed my mind but you guys have sure made me think.

Brandon Wilks

"The outcome of any serious research can only be to make two questions grow where only one grew before. "
Thorstein Veblen

Thinking and questioning 30.Apr.2005 07:05


I believe that's what a number of us are hoping for...to get folks to think and to question. The "AIDS" boogeyman has gotten so many of us so frightened, that we've let go of rational, questioning thought (a definite win-win situation for those who literally profit from HIV=AIDS dogma).

Interesting string - Food for thought 02.May.2005 15:48

Paul Whiting pauleewhiting@hotmail.com

"You may not have completely changed my mind but you guys have sure made me think."

Thanks for your post, Brandon! It's heartening to know there are those who are open-minded enough to realize it's *OKAY* to question the "HIV=AIDS" paradigm! That is what the "rethinkers' movement" is all about: T-H-I-N-K-I-N-G!

Yours truly was told in November of 2000, at the Multnomah County Clinic, that I was HIV-positive! I took the news really, really hard at first. I felt like such a f#$%ing failure for having contracted this "devastating disease." And even back then, I had heard from some friends in the alternative healthcare field, that there was another theory that HIV did NOT cause AIDS. I dismissed the information out-of-hand, however, because I assumed (based on what had been drilled into my head since high school) that HIV had been *proven* as the cause of AIDS--that it was an *indisputable* scientific fact!

Then, in May of 2004, I stumbled across a little ad in Just Out by a "Long-Term, Non-Progressor" who had been alive *20 years* WITHOUT any AIDS meds and with a "dissident attitude." The ad listed off a bunch of Websites, one of which was Christine Maggiore's www.aliveandwell.org. I decided to check it out thinking it would be information about alternative approaches to boosting immunity, such as yoga, or acupuncture, etc...

Boy, was I in for a shock!

I had this WHOLE NEW WORLD opened up to me regarding "the other side of AIDS." Unfortunately, thanks to our puppet-like media, I had *no idea* there was even any other theories out there about the cause of "AIDS." I started reading, and I kept reading, and did some more reading, and even further reading still. I read every piece I could get my hands--or my mouse--on about the "dissenting" view of HIV as the cause of AIDS.

That little ad, placed by someone I now know personally--who's lived 20-plus years with an HIV-positive diagnosis and NEVER taken any meds--literally changed my life! Thanks again, Bob!

Anyway, since then I have become fairly active in the "rethinkers movement," even moderating an MSN chat group to organize local meetings and activism ( http://groups.msn.com/HEAL-Northwest) and writing a simple, tri-fold brochure to start introduce this life-altering information to anyone open-minded enough to read it!

So, again, thanks for saying what you said! You've made my day!

-Paul Whiting
Moderator of HEAL-Northwest

THOM needs moral support !!!!! 03.May.2005 10:15

Hugo Webber

Hi all,

I have just seen, that there are very controversial aids discussions going on in PERTH / AUSTRALIA

Even if this is geographically far away, it is not from a topic point of view. We need an increased GLOBAL COMMUNICATION NETWORK to convince more and more people, that the DEBATES about the AZT TOXICITY, FALSE HIV TEST RESULTS, ANIMATED and NOT ACTUAL HIV-PICTURES and all the other open questions are VALID. We cannot answer all scientific questions, but we can help that an ever growing number of people become aware of the various topics...

But you don't look sick!" - snapshot of a man with HIV/AIDS

23rd April 2005 = AIDS CRITICS DAY / Letter to the Editor

So please add YOUR COMMENTS

Many thanks

Why do they publish just one side of the debate? 07.May.2005 15:02


There really is only one reason. They publish only one side of the debate because no one would believe that side if they were allowed to read only one side of the story.


Dissident ABC

Aids dissidents scream censorship but why is it that such dissidents like Paul King of the dissident action group hacks computers,makes bombs,and suposely is a childmolester? This guy is no true dissident. I urge al dissidents to run when they see this guy for he is a danger to children and adult alike.

The more things change, the more they remain the same 08.May.2005 15:44

Wilhelm Godschalk wgods@xs4all.nl

Dissident ABC,

Interesting... I'm sure I have heard such talk before... Wait! I remember: It was a guy named Adolf who talked that way. Long time ago. Not very nice things to say about someone. Did you know Paul King has been known to sue people who besmirch his good name?

Turned down the job 08.May.2005 22:54


I hated to do it. I did not want to say that to the temp agency because they practically begged me to take the job. I was one person that they were sure could work out. They wanted to hire me to work in a laboratory that did biological testing like HIV tests.

So, what did I want to find myself doing? Did I want to be writing down anything that popped into my head sometimes because they wanted me to run more tests than I had time for, and probably in less time than protocol dictated? Making someone lose his job and freedom because the test indicated that there was half a chance he smoked marijuana? Sentencing someone to a painful death by slow poisoning when I knew the test wasn't even licensed for that use, let alone able to predict future ill health?

I am sure that particular incident is why they gave me spectacularly stupid and crappy jobs after that. I am quite certain that they decided that I was "psychologically unfit" for anything sophisticated. Sometimes there just isn't a choice. I'm not sure why I could justify the fact that I could force myself into working at an arms factory. I couldn't force myself to do an HIV test, but I could force myself to do that. Maybe it's the fact that I would be working with no illusions about the purpose of the work. There's a lot less dissonance. It's bad, but there is something that is just so unclean about helping someone deceive someone else into killing himself or herself by slow poison. To me it's worse than making a weapon that is intended to kill people.

Dissident ABC should get deleted 10.May.2005 09:14

questioning personal abuse

"dissident ABC" has not made another post so far and throwing those insults against someone shows that any means seems possible against someone who has posted on this thread. This post should be removed. How far go the editorial policies of Indymedia ?

support Paul King 11.May.2005 10:33

Hugo Webber

Dear Reader,

Since I have posted here as well, I feel strongly urged to reply to the slanderous message posted by some "Dissident ABC" against Paul King. "Dissident ABC" further wants that other aidscritical people take distance to Paul. I understand he is trying to split the aidscritical movement.

Foul language is no substitue for a valid medical or scientific argument either way.

The idea, that a JOINT DAY of ACTION would improve the communication between the concerned people and existing groups, as well as that a broader public became introduced to the ongoing scientific aids-controversy where discussed at some forums beforehand.

If anyone wants to read up on this development, please go to
Dissidentaction >>
Aidsmythexposed >>

All the discussions are online, there is no secret about this development and anyone can read how we have advanced to start the outgoing publicity campaign on the 23rd April.

Should there be however, any actual legal grounds, for not posting here anymore, then I would respect an email to be send here:
(  hweb_3@hotmail.com ) and a dublicate at (  hugowebber@web.de )

If I receive a clear message, from the DEP. Of JUSTICE or another LEGAL AUTHORITY in the US including Name, Address and Position of Sender and a phone No. for verification that for some legal reasons one should not be posting here anymore, then I will adhere accordingly.

Until such a notification is send to me, I take it that "Dissident ABC" is lying.

I don´t want to stop posting here because of said message from "Dissident ABC". What are YOUR actual motives for such a message? Can you proof anything? It just shows, what cheap tricks are being used trying to discredit an aids critic.

Paul King is, as far as I have got to know him over the last few weeks, a very committed HEALTH FREEDOM FIGHTER, and so am I. This message here is a message of friendship to Paul. Not more and not less, because I do honour friendship.

As anyone can read in this debate here, even that very controversial positions where posted, all happened in an athmosphare of mutual respect both ways. If in such a debate sometimes some harsh comments are posted, then one can excuse this, because the HIV-AIDS controversy effects people emotionally. I believe, if one looks on other debates that have happened during the last few weeks, the tone here at Portland was ok. I wouldn´t bother writing this rather long message, if it wasn´t for those foul comments against Paul.

The various responses show, that there is deep concern from many people over HEALTH topics in general and NATURAL HEALTH specifically. It would be a shame, IMO, if this debate ended because of some foul trick from an unknown poster.

I urge all dissidents who are aware of this situation to keep posting messages here and at other forums and not be irritated by this kind of slanderous language...

Kind Regards
Hugo Webber

Another evasive move? 11.May.2005 16:57

Wilhelm Godschalk wgods@xs4all.nl

I could imagine myself calling someone an asshole, if he wrote something truly appalling. But I have not done so for years, and I'm not going to start now. But if calling someone a bombmaker and a child molester, without any grounds is not appalling, then what is? It's also actionable in court, by the way.
But what I really think is that Paul King, by presenting well-documented challenges to the AIDS/HIV lie, has become a real danger to those whose existence (or pocketbook) is dependent upon the myth. That's why they want to destroy him at any cost.
My proposal: Let's forget about this asshole (Oops! Now I did it, after all these years), and return to the topic of this thread, which is (in case you forgot): "Anniversary of a Medical Tragedy". That's what we were discussing. Let's not allow any personal attacks to distract us from the message we want to present

US AIDS Policy: More Harm Than Good, Says Brazil 12.May.2005 00:23

Hugo Webber

For Immediate Release

May 3, 2005
Sandy Krawitz of ActionAid USA
202-835-1240 or 202-492-7207 (cell),
or Tony Durham of ActionAid UK,
44 20 7561 7636 or 44 7957 870314 (mobile) or

US AIDS Policy: More Harm Than Good, Says Brazil

In an unprecedented move, the Government of Brazil yesterday refused a $40 million grant from the United States to fight AIDS, saying its ideological conditions were too severe.

Nearly 700,000 individuals are inflicted with HIV/AIDS in Brazil, many of whom are living in poverty. The Bush Administration's grant would have imposed scientifically unverifiable, ideological clauses, such as one that asks the country to officially condemn prostitution. Signing such a clause would have impeded AIDS interventions within Brazil, which orchestrates open relationships with prostitutes, homosexual men, intravenous-drug users and other high-risk groups in order to fight the pandemic.

"It is a simple fact that in order fight AIDS, it's crucial to work with the populations that face the greatest risk. It would be a gross human rights violation to deny them life-saving assistance based on moral grounds." said Atila Roque, Executive Director of ActionAid USA, and himself a Brazilian. "That's why we should praise the Brazilian government's decision, which will help to raise the stakes of international debate concerning the Bush Administration's ideological influence over foreign aid policies."

Added ActionAid International USA policy analyst, Rick Rowden, "HIV/AIDS needs to be battled through a public health approach which requires close working relationships with the most vulnerable communities. You can't have a cooperative working relationship with, say, prostitutes' associations that starts off with a blanket moral condemnation of them. You might think you've taken the moral high ground, but that is not the same thing as an effective anti-HIV/AIDS strategy. From this point on, the US is going to need to decide if it is going to be moralistic or effective."

According to Dr. Paul Zeitz, DO, MPH, Director of the Global AIDS Alliance, "In turning down the US grant, the Government of Brazil is actually protecting people at risk by ensuring science-based prevention programs are implemented rather than ideologically-based prevention programs that have no basis in scientific reality. This is a phenomenal development by Brazil, a sovereign government which is finally standing up against policies that are doing more harm than good."

Interestingly, there are no Federal laws within the United States banning prostitution. As a result, prostitution is legally condoned within some Nevada counties. According to a 10-year UCLA study, the occurrence of AIDS within condoned rather than condemned brothels is significantly lower than that of the general population.

States Almir Pereira Jr, program coordinator for HIV/AIDS at ActionAid International Brazil, "more than the refusal of accepting the US grant, the Brazilian government's attitude represents its commitment towards maintaining a democratic and progressive AIDS program, as opposed to the conservative vision of the United States. Unfortunately, it seems that the US policy is taking advantage of the great poverty and high vulnerability of developing nations to impose its conservative agenda as a condition for the countries to receive the financial aid they desperately require."


ActionAid International works in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Americas to fight global poverty and tackle the injustice that causes it.




Are we talking Lawsuite? hmmm Do you really believe he has ever sued any one or could he be spitting hot air? Name one person he has ever sued and I will provide documentation of his charges.


Paul Whiting

Oh, come now, "ABC"...

Don't just tease us all with your threat of "documentation." If you've got it, flaunt it. Otherwise, don't make empty accusations. They mean absolutely nothing--especially when you're not even willing to sign them with your REAL NAME.

Paul Whiting
Portland, Oregon
Moderator of  http://groups.msn.com/HEAL-Northwest

Why don't you find out? 17.May.2005 17:02

Wilhelm Godschalk wgods@xs4all.nl

Hey ABC,

Paul Whiting just came up with a valuable suggestion. You can easily find out whether you're at risk by revealing your true identity. If you're sure your allegations are valid, there could be no harm in that, right?
Alternatively, you could study the topic of this discussion, and maybe present us with some evidence that HIV exists (which most of us don't believe), and that it causes AIDS (which none of us believes). That would really make the debate interesting.

protect yourself before you wreck yourself 15.Jun.2005 06:12


Wow, is this a meaty subject or what? I skimmed over all the posts and did not notice an out diagnosised HIV+ person such as myself so I thought it important to chime in on this thread.

(I always use the word "diagnosised" when thinking of talking about being HIV+ because that's what it really is to me. I do not consider a diagnosis a point of fact rather a point of view)

My diagnosis was in 1998 and at the time I chose to explore natural healing methods as my primary treatment. For two years, despite my initial T-Cell count of 200 (thus awarding me an AIDS diagnosis though I hadn't an opportunistic infection) and the urging of my then doctor to start medication I enjoyed good health.

In 2000 I came down with pneumonia and after some lengthy reflection I decided to integrate Western remedies into my what was then strictly an approach of Chinese medicine, Acupunture, Naturopathy, Yoga, supplementation and a healthy diet.

There are numerous stories I can tell concerning what I learned through my experiences with these many different forms of treatment. I have no regrets of waiting to begin therapy and I still do not buy that I will need the drug treatments my entire life even despite what doctors say.

In 2003 I went on a 3 week IT (interupted treatment) of my own choosing, this was not condoned by my doc at the time. Besides my test results looking really "shitty" by medical standards I only remember the side effect of my hair falling out. Later I remembered that my hair was falling out right before I went on the meds too. Each time I was under an enormous amount of stress, but I have not had episodes of hair loss at any other time in my life (despite stress levels) than when I my viral load was recorded as unusually high.

I went back on the same meds and within months my numbers returned to where they had been. (T-Cells being slow to respond however) I also moved from Portland to the Hawaiian islands, in the hopes of a more relaxing life (I'm still waiting for that to happen...no matter, onward)

Here in the islands the local medicine people have long believed that whatever HIV/AIDS is comes down to enzyme/amino acid deficiency rather than a retrovirus. I've heard of people being successfully treated with fresh coconuts!

Fresh coconuts being challenging to come by on the basis needed for this treatment (I think I'd have to quit my day job in order to hunt down the necessary amounts and for proper preparation) I have instead begun a different complimentary therapy also enzyme/amino acid focused.

This one was created by Dr Harold Foster out of Canada and works off of the theroy of ecological deteriation, primarily selenium depletion in the soil, as a strong contributor to what is known as AIDS related illnesses. These supplements are Selenium, Triptophan, L-Glutamine and NAC (all can be purchased at the health food store).

Dr. Foster's work is available online, he purports some interesting theories. He is reporting much success with his patients in Canada and he has been importing his supplements to Africa as well. I am taking part in a three month trial right now.

I have been practicing day long ITs for the last year or so (with good results) and plan on a longer one this summer. I am doing this to cleanse my system, especially my liver, from the many toxins found in the medication. The people that I know who've died in the last many years all died from liver failure.

I have read with great interest for many years about the debate over what HIV/AIDS is, what causes it and if it even truly exists. While I find it all fascinating for me it has been a spiritual revolution in my life. Not one I would wish one anyone else (there are easier ways to go about it) and especially since there are good, solid methods of prevention.

I do not rule out the government having a hand it' spread, to what extent it remains a mystery and may forever. I also deplore the many in government and industry who are making huge profits from people being sick and scared. There will be no "cure" when it is so profitable for people to be sick. I am more focused however on finding good alternative methods of treatment for whatever this is and nothing is too far for consideration. For now this works for me.

Oh, and one other thing...women and HIV. I've read some great studies suggesting that it is much harder for partners of HIV+ women to become infected than partners of HIV+ men. If the blood barrier theory of transmission is correct than this makes sense really. So girls, please protect yourselves and guys protect your partners, not to mention yourself!

Ask the positive 07.Aug.2005 18:20

David Bamford dj56@unwired.com.au

as opposedto the gutless contributions from people such as 'Researcher' what was your name? I am quite proud to publish my name, I'll give you my address and phone number to if you like. I was diagnosed HIV+ in 1984 and lived through the whole thing. My life has been destroyed by my diagnosis, but not because of illness, but just the lies that have been told about it. I know people will deny that 21 years of living the experience is no-where as good as research, but I am here to say 'WAKE UP TO YOURSELF! Not 1 prediction ever made has come true without adjustment. Long-term-survivors consist of people that didn't buy into the bullshit, everyone that did are dead, and not from AIDS but medical science. Of course no-one will admit the truth, then someone would have to accept the responsibility for hundreds of thousands of inocent deaths. I have lived it, not read about it like most of your respondents. When they talk to enough positive people with an open mind, they might relise that thay really are killing people, not helping them. Everyone loves anexpert.

Answer to the question: Where are all these AIDS cases? 10.Jun.2006 14:03

er nurse andygish@gmail.com


I am a nurse in a metro ER in a moderatly sized city and I have an answer to the comments/questions about where the people with AIDS and HIV are today. It is true it does seems like it is less of a threat today but this is simply not true.

Where are all of these people with AIDS/HIV? Sadly, they are all around you. I work in the Emergency department of a metropolitan ER and when I first started I was dumbfounded at how many of my patients were living with HIV and/or AIDS. I would say that on some days up to 20% of my population had the virus. They are of all shapes and sizes... married men and women in their 50s - even 60's, young 18 year olds who looked like my most healthy patients, veterans, fathers, young women with children at their side. It spares no one.

I believe that the reason that the threat does not seem immidiate is that living with the disease is completely different than it was in the 80's. It no longer is a disease that soley affects one population. Also living with HIV/AIDS is now considered living with a chronic disease. A serious, life threatening and contagious disease but chronic one, meaning that people are now living 20 years with it instead of 2. People affected rarely die such fast and traumatic deaths due to pneumonia because we have learned how to treat it. Like Lupus or other immune diseases it is a constant long term battle between body and virus. Eventually the virus usually wins but luckily people are living a lot longer before the battle ends.

The problem with this is that when a disease such as HIV (or diabetes) becomes chronic and death comes slower the concived threat diminishes and changes in behavior that would prevent infection become lax. This is why education (not of abstenace but of safer practices and better choices) is a constanct struggle that we will never completely win.

This spring I walked into a pt's room. He was a bright handsome and healthly looking 21 year old boy. He had a michevious grin and a great sense of humor. He was someones son. He was also HIV postive and had been for 5 years.

It is real. It is here to stay. Regardless of the politics behind it -- it is worth protecting yourself from

er RN

Vasya 05.Jan.2007 15:14

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