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Potter Moves To Withdraw From Joint Terrorism Task Force

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Potter Moves To Withdraw From Joint Terrorism Task Force

Potter Moves To Withdraw From Joint Terrorism Task Force

Officers Would Cooperate Only On A Case-By-Case Basis

At a joint press conference with Special Agent-in-Charge Robert Jordan this morning, Mayor Tom Potter announced that he will ask City Council to reassign the two Portland police officers currently working with the Joint Terrorism Task Force back to the Criminal Intelligence Unit of the Portland Police Bureau.

That decision comes after three weeks of negotations between the City and the Federal government, which were prompted at the end of March by the introduction by Potter and Commissioner Randy Leonard of a resolution which sought to establish specific criteria for Portland's continued participation in the JTTF.

In a letter dated April 18 and included in the material released this morning, Jordan praised Potter for having "clearly and eloquently articulated his responsibiility to oversee Portland's police officers.

"Unfortunately," Jordan wrote, "we are unable to find a solution that is mutally acceptable."

Under the protocols proposed today by Potter the officers currently assigned to the JTTF will be returned to the Criminal Intelligence Unit 60-90 days "after approval of a resolution returning all local officers to the direct oversight and supervision of City officials".

Thereafter, those officers will be able to assist the FBI on "secret-level" investigations only on a case-by-case basis. In addition, the CIU will not be permitted to conduct independent terrorism investigations, but instead will provide any terrorism-related information to the FBI.

Despite the proposed withdrawal of the officers from day-to-day assignment to the JTTF, Chief Derrik Foxworth will continue to serve as a member of the JTTF Executive Group.

"The two officers will retain their Top Secret clearances," said Potter, "so that they can work with federal officials in case of an imminent terrorist threat to our region."

At the press conference, Jordan continued the tonal shift indicated in his letter to Potter. "I appreciate the Mayor's willingness to let us meet with him a number of times in the past few weeks,' he said, adding that he "fully respected the Mayor's right and responsibility" to ensure oversight of Portland police officers.

Jordan said that "many different proposals" were discussed, and while no agreement was reached, "the FBI will continue to share information with the cleared officers and the Portland Police Bureau command staff.

"I make the commitment," Jordan said, "that we will will continue to work with you and the Portland Police Bureau to protect the public's safety."

Kent Robinson, Assistant U.S. Attorney, issued a statement in lieu of U.S. Attorney Karin Immergut. "The U.S. Attorney's office has had a long and productive relationship with the City of Portland," Robinson said. "We will continue to work together as well on terrorism investigations."

He said that the joint appearance of both City and Federal officials at the press conference represented the commitment of all parties to ensuring the "safety and protecting the civil rights of everyone in Oregon. Differing somewhat with Jordan's letter to Potter, Robinson said: "While we may have our differences, we have found a way to work together to meet the requirements and needs of all parties involved"

"The Portland Police Bureau enjoys a strong reltionship with the FBI," said Chief Derrick Foxworth, "and I don't see that really changing." Under the new arrangement, he added, Portland police officers will assist in terrorism investigations only "when required and appropriate, and consistent with Oregon law".

Asked the address possible concerns that the new arrangement will make Portlanders less safe from terrorism, Potter said this: "You just heard it from two Federal law enforcement officials as well as our Police Chief that the City of Portland will be protected." He added that he saw the move not as something that would "diminish" Portland's safety but one that would "strengthen" it.

Potter added that he hoped the move would "send a message [to the community] that this is something that is necessary for oversight of the police", an issue he said has been a "critical issue for our community".

In response to a question on what the reassignment of the officers back to CIU would accomplish, Potter reiterated the focus on proper oversight, and the need to ensure that both the Chief and the police commissioner (normally the Mayor) know what the officers themselves know. "Since day one," he said, "that has been the condition we were operating from."

On the matter of "putting the pieces" together being one of the challenges of preventing terrorism, Potter said that the officers "may not be sitting in the same room" as members of the JTTF, "but there will be the same flow of information".

Potter was pressed to elaborate on the focus on oversight, and whether was an indication of a fear that the JTTF-assigned officers were engaging in activity that the community would not appreciate. "I think that is the wrong way to frame the question," Potter said, calling oversight the "natural function of a police commissioner".

"Much like the President has charge of the military," he said, "the police commissioner has charge of the police bureau." The intent, he said, is "to ensure that the police officers are doing what they are supposed to be doing" and was not " a question of mistrust".

Also raised was the question of whether or not Potter had the Council votes to pass the withdrawal of officers from the JTTF. "I've discussed it with out COuncil members," he said, "and next Thursday we're going to be hearing this case in the evening. At that point, Council will make a decision.

(More on the question of Council votes in a moment.)

Asked (strangely, given the decision to withdraw) if he had gotten everything he asked for, and what had happened to obtaining "top secret" clearance himself, Potter said that he had never asked for "top secret" clearance. "I said I wanted the same security clearance the officers have," he explained.

Potter also said that as a result of the talks, he and Jordan now have "a much more effective relationship" and a "better understanding of how we can help each other". He chided the media for "focusing on what isn't" while the City was "focusing on what is".

Robsinson was asked if there was any concern that other cities across the country might follow Portland's lead. "I don't have any indication on a national level," he said. "I don't know whether or not other cities are considering this, but I don't believe so."

Prompted by a question, Jordan also sought to address concerns over potential abuses by Federal officials. "I don't udnerstand our agreement today to be an inference that the FBI is investigating anyone purely on the basis of their political beliefs," he said.

Asked about his lettter to Potter, in which he said it was "unfortunate" that a "mutally acceptable" agreement could not be reached, and to identify what issue caused that breakdown, Jordan said that while "each of us came to the table in good faith", they were unable to reach an agreement. But, he said, there was no one sticking point.

On the subject of potential FBI abuses, Robinson said: "That's just not happening, I want to say that clearly and emphatically." He argued that both the Attorney General guidelines and the USA PATRIOT Act require criminal allegations in order to launch any investigation.

(Currently, the ACLU of Oregon is awaiting the full response to their Freedom of Information Act request seeking information on possible investigations of local activist groups based solely upon their political activities. While no details have yet been reported to the ACLU, the preliminary response from the FBI was that there are documents responsive to their request. In addition, the JTTF operating in Denver was in recent years caught engaging in precisely that sort of activity.)

On the matter of whether or not Potter has the votes to adopt the new protocols for cooperation with the Federal government in terrorism investigations, and the withdrawal of JTTF-assigned officers back to the Criminal Intelligence Unit, we were unable to obtain a clear indication prior to this posting.

Last night, as reported here, Commissioner Leonard has indicated that he supports the results of Potter's negotiations. This morning, a staffer for Commissioner Erik Sten indicated that it looked likely that Sten was supportive as well. If so, that would provide Potter the votes necessary to adopt the new policies next Thursday.

As of this posting, we have not yet gotten word from the officers of Commissioners Dan Saltzman or Sam Adams. In the past, Saltzman has expressed clear reservations about withdrawing from the JTTF, while Adams has expressed a need for proper oversight and a willingness to vote for withdrawl if that need was not met

 http://communique.portland.or.us/05/04/potter_moves_to_withdraw_from_joint_terrorism_task_force.html
hip! hip! hooray! cheers for Tom Potter and the Portland City Council 22.Apr.2005 12:22

proud to be a Portlander once again!

thanks Tom and the rest of you guys for helping restore PRIDE in being a Portlander!

Now, let's get to work on these other lazy-assed stupid federal bureaucrat's that do
nothing for us but eat the substance of our means...let's uninvite them too and hope
they'll pack up their shit and move back to where they came forth!

Let's be anti-federal government for a while and be more pro-Portland, shall we?

In support 22.Apr.2005 14:18

.

I am in absolute total support of Potter and Leonard in this.

May this kind of responsible government spread to other cities of the nation.

City responsibility 22.Apr.2005 16:15

Jenni S.

What people seem to forget is that the city of Portland is responsible for the actions of those two police officers. As such, the least the FBI could do is keep the two people who are responsible for the city as a whole and for the police department in the know-- the mayor and the police chief.

Cities put themselves at risk by participating and not knowing what is going on with investigations. If the FBI wants the city's support, as well as their officers, they're going to have to give back to the city as well.

I realize that it's sensitive information they're working with, but both the mayor and police chief are intelligent and responsible enough not to give out that information. They deal with sensitive material all the time in regards to the city, so it's nothing new to them.

I'm not sure what this means, but 22.Apr.2005 16:16

I like it so far

It scares me that there will still be FBI agents illegally sneaking peeks into our lives, and I wonder how much difference this will all make. BUT, I nevertheless feel victorious. I absolutely feel supported by the mayor and city council (for ONCE!) in this. This is an important symbolic, if not actual, victory for the people.

Now...to let the rest of the nation know. With Portland's example, perhaps the rest of the nation will shake itself out of the dangerous stupor.

THANK YOU MAYOR POTTER for finally listening to the people of this city. THANK YOU Randy Leonard for bringing this up in the first place (well, I guess we brought it up first, but you were the first voice in city hall to even consider this). THANK YOU Sam Adams for supporting this.

Three cheers for Potter et al. 22.Apr.2005 18:56

Out of town supporter

It takes courage to stand up against the machine, the establishment -- whatever you want to call it -- the thing that Jordan is a part of -- the thing that does not honor law or rights -- the paranoid thing that fears "The People".

The FBI has admitted that it has no regard for Oregon state law, and that it has broken it in the past. See  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/03/314071.shtml.

There's no way we can control the FBI's actions but we can control our level of complicity in these crimes. And it appears that Potter is doing just that.

It also seems that all parties have found a politically acceptable resolution. There seems to be no hard feelings -- BUT, the sceptic in me wonders if there are not backdoor possibilities. Some of the comments concern me such as the "free flow" of information. I can't help but wonder if this changes nothing.

I'm so glad 22.Apr.2005 19:42

Finally a mayor to be proud of

I'm so glad that Potter and the city council are in the process of taking this stand. It is long overdue, so very timely! I am glad to see that representative government is alive and kicking in Portland, even if it is dead in Washington DC.

Three cheers for all the PDX people who swayed the tide, And thanks to Potter, too!

Hurray 22.Apr.2005 20:02

mom

After repeatedly testifying against the PJTTF this is so gratifying...
Cheers to everyone who continued to work against city involvement even when the heat went up with the 9/11 event.

Born and raised again Oregonian 22.Apr.2005 20:22

now living in Corvallis

Tom Potter was a radical chief of Police in his day and beyond when he was called to educate racist asshole wanna-be-cops how to behave.
It's no surprise he's making important strides as mayor.
Let him know you support him.

Washingtonian hails victory! 22.Apr.2005 21:18

gk

As a Vancouver, WA, resident, I am happy with this result. Vancouver has one police officer in the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Portland, and I hope to write and talk to the Vancouver Mayor and Council members for this city to reach the same situation. Thanx to everyone for the hard work. How great! Vancouver is very corporate and red-necked, but I hope to approach them, anyway. We will not be silenced nor second-rate citizens, "no more."

Thanks 22.Apr.2005 23:44

charley

I love Potter, Potter for President. Also, hint to the FBI, I know where terrorists are hiding conspiring to kill inocent people... here is the address, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500.

ACLU News Release 22.Apr.2005 23:45

ACLU

Portland Joint Terrorism Taskforce

Portland Mayor Announces City to End Role in FBI Joint Terrorism Task
Force

April 22, 2005 - PORTLAND, OR - Citing the need for greater oversight
over its own police officers, Portland Mayor Tom Potter announced
Friday that Portland will soon end its participation in the local FBI
Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF). However, Potter and FBI Special
Agent-in-Charge Robert Jordan said the two agencies would continue to
cooperate in terrorism investigations and that the Mayor will be
seeking secret clearance to allow him access to some classified
information.

Three weeks ago, at the request of federal officials, the City Council
agreed to postpone consideration of a resolution requiring meaningful
oversight to allow time for the Justice Department and the City to
explore options to address the City's concerns. At the U.S. Attorney
and the Mayor's request, ACLU representatives took part in those
discussions.

Oregon ACLU Executive Director David Fidanque said the discussions
were constructive but the primary roadblock was the Justice
Department's refusal to allow the Portland City Attorney to apply for
a security clearance or to assure Mayor Potter that he and Police
Chief Derrick Foxworth would have access to the same information as
the Portland police officers on the Task Force.

"Those requests were denied by Justice Department officials in
Washington, D.C.," Fidanque said, "I think everyone around the table
in Portland understood the importance of city employees being able to
get legal advice from their lawyer about the requirements of state
laws and the Oregon Constitution."

Fidanque applauded the City's announcement saying there are excellent
reasons for local officials to insist on meaningful oversight of the
work of the FBI task forces.

"There is now ample evidence that several FBI task forces elsewhere
have targeted individuals because of their political or religious
affiliations," Fidanque said. "Almost a year after Portland lawyer
Brandon Mayfield was cleared of any involvement in terrorism, Portland
officials still don't know what, if any, involvement Portland police
had in that investigation."

In the months preceding the 2004 Republican and Democratic
Conventions, JTTF agents in the Midwest monitored the daily activities
of various anti-war and political activists they believed were
planning to attend counter-demonstrations, and made "visits" to the
homes of several activists as well as their friends and family
members. In December, the ACLU of Oregon and the ACLU national legal
office filed Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests on the behalf
of several local organizations and individuals who believed they were
being unjustly targeted.

"We all want the police to protect us from real criminals and
terrorists," Ann Beeson Associate Legal Director of the ACLU. "But
resources and funds established to fight terrorism should not be
misused to target innocent Americans who have done nothing more than
speak out or practice their faith. Investigations should be based on
actual evidence of wrongdoing."

Oregon ACLU Legislative Director/Counsel Andrea Meyer said ACLU is
still waiting to receive documents the FBI says it has on nine of the
17 individuals and organizations included in its FOIA request. She
says the FBI has responded that there are no documents related to the
other eight requestors.


"We are looking forward to receiving those documents," Meyer said.
"We certainly hope that the Portland JTTF hasn't been doing the kind
of political and religious spying we have seen in other places. We
hope to get answers to our questions soon."

Mayor Potter said the Portland City Council will vote April 28 on a
revised resolution that will address the City's concerns.

can sten still fuck this up? 22.Apr.2005 23:46

regular reader

oh man, i hope potter has sam adams on this one, so sten's vote won't matter. if this comes down to sten again, and he f'n fucks it up again, i am going to be furious!!!!!!!

Stumptown props 23.Apr.2005 00:57

Lawrence J. Maushard

Let's also remember that Portland was the first city to refuse to allow the random police interviews of Middle East and Asian men in the immediate aftermath of 911.

Though they were forced, I'm sure by the City Attorney, then Mayor Katz & Chief Kroeker did go along. But obviously, the people of this great city had already made the choice, already made the decision to keep city & state laws exactly where they needed to be.

Good recent history. Yes sir!

Portland definitely does not suck.

No fuckin' way.


Not my President,

Not my war.

Looks good 23.Apr.2005 03:36

on paper

So the PJTTF is diminished, which I support. But let's not forget that terrorism is a byproduct of the state. All cops are terrorists.

Go Team 23.Apr.2005 06:53

Happy Citizen

I bet Sam A is <as in the meetings> will be right on the shoulder of Leonard thus nixing the Eric S concern for majority votes
Damn proud of the insight on the oversight resolution by Leonard and Potter on this one.
Silly feds expected, as shown in their unwillingness and unprepared ness to have the city roll over and abide, them based only on their FBI clout.
Hmmmm didn't work here....Not in our city!
What were they thinking?
Thanks for doing your Homework Council Members and supporting our Civil Rights here in Portland

I Care 23.Apr.2005 09:41

CatWoman

AS to who cares about this, I do. I care very much that this city's officials finally listened to the people, and made this gesture. No, we cannot be lulled into thinking that the danger has passed, that the fascists are not at our very doors. It's true that there will still be agents out there invading our homes, our private conversations, and our subconsious minds. It's true, as "out of town supporter" points out, that phrases like that re the "free flow of information" raise a definite alarm. And it's true that we're a long way from the light at the end of this tunnel. The threat is still real and present. But the significance of this act on the part of Randy Leonard (who I suspect was the real driving force behind this from the beginning), Mayor Potter, and Commissioner Adams, cannot be dismissed.

This is an act of defiance in the face of oppression. This is the people of Portland standing together in solidarity against the police state. All of us. Those in the streets, and those in council chambers. This is the tide turning.

Thanks to the people who have fought this battle tooth and nail all these years. Thanks to Commissioner Leonard, who heard us. Thanks to Mayor Potter, who had the courage to take this stand. Thanks to Sam Adams, whose support made it possible.

With Portland's example, the rest of the nation's cities can now find the courage to finally end their complicity with the oppressor. We've composted our garbage. Now, we must till and water and fertilize, and start to pull the weeds, so that this seed can grow.

Corporate Media Playing the Game 23.Apr.2005 10:02

Media Watch

KATU is currently conducting a "non-scientific" (no kidding) "poll" on their website, www.katu.com. They're asking whether people agree or disagree with the mayor's decision. Unsurprisingly, given KATU's past indiscretions, the poll is showing that 75% of people disagree with the mayor, and that an incredible number of people have taken the poll.

Anyone who saw either "Li2U News" or "Fuck the Corporate Media" is familiar with the tactics of KATU to spread lies and disinformation. Who can forget the famous "You make the call" line in Li2U news, running side by side with the real video of the same event they were supposedly "reporting" on. In my opinion, this poll is more of the same. The corporate media and the corporate police state are running scared. Fuck them all.

Maybe indymedia should do a "poll" of its own.

potter the player 23.Apr.2005 13:07

keeping an i on lil beruit

"Despite the proposed withdrawal of the officers from day-to-day assignment to the JTTF, Chief Derrik Foxworth will continue to serve as a member of the JTTF Executive Group."
you all must have missed this part of the story, besides the officers that were working with the JTTF are pretty well trained. scrap the title make the people happy...good pr
played by potter hook line and sinker, and it all started with the anybody but francisconi and the very popular 25 dollar limit on campaign contributions. made everyone forget that he rose through the ranks of the police force to the top...and now to the tippy top.
hey, isn´t derrik´s twin brother a fed?

go vote and call the county 23.Apr.2005 13:22

Ecstatic Portlander

I just went to the KATU site and voted. At 1 pm on Saturday, the results are now 53 percent supporting the mayor, and 47 percent opposed. So, maybe even the corporate media will cover this right.

Now, we must turn our attention to the county. We (people with more than one functioning brain cell) are outnumbered in this state by rednecks, but we do hold the county fairly well. Call your county commissioners and ask them to prepare a similar resolution removing Sheriff Bernie "Fareless Riders are Criminals" Giusto and his deputies from the JTTF.


"You must be the change you wish to see in the world" -Gandhi


"Long live Cascadia"- Me

corporate media's polls 23.Apr.2005 17:47

Andy

Just voted in KATU's poll. Results are now (5:35 PM Saturday) 57% in favor and 43% opposed to pulling out with a total of 22084 responses.

But there's another poll at KGW with only 2868 responses that has only 22% (!) in favor and a whopping 75% opposed to pulling out. How they get these numbers is beyond me. They're either rigging them, or the folks watching KGW and going to their website are predominantly fascist morons...

got a ?>>>wasn't this FBI Goon Jordon involved with the Sibel Edmonds case? 23.Apr.2005 18:10

government-watcher

Sibel Edmonds was the FBI whistleblower that had much to tell and her FBI bosses
sought to shut her up fast. Somehow, as I recall, local FBI gooner Jordan seemed
to have had a hand in the shutting up of Edmonds and somehow it got botched, and
his penalty was to be "transferred" to Portland when the much beloved Matthews re-
tired. If this is wrong understanding on my part, then please correct it here.

In meanwhile, here is more updating on the Sibel Edmonds case, and in reading it,
you'll clearly see WHY we Portlander's don't anymore to do with these government
bastard's than we absolutely have to:

 http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0517%2Cwebmondo1%2C63324%2C6.html

Mondo Washington
The Silencing of Sibel Edmonds
Court won't let public hear what FBI whistleblower has to say
by James Ridgeway
April 21st, 2005 2:19 PM
WASHINGTON, D.C.—The unsettling story of whistleblower Sibel Edmonds took another twist on Thursday, as the government continued its seemingly endless machinations to shut her up. The U.S. Court of Appeals here denied pleas to open the former FBI translator's First Amendment case to the public, a day after taking the extraordinary step of ordering a secret hearing.
Edmonds was hired after 9-11 to help the woefully staffed FBI's translation department with documents and wiretaps in such languages as Farsi and Turkish. She soon cried foul, saying the agency's was far from acceptable and perhaps even dangerous to national security. She was fired in 2002.

Ever since, the government has been trying to silence her, even classifying an interview she did with 60 Minutes.

Oral arguments in her suit against the federal government were scheduled for this morning, but yesterday the clerk of the appeals court unexpectedly and suddenly announced the hearing would be closed. Only attorneys and Edmonds were allowed in.

No one thought the three-judge appeals court panel would be especially sympathetic to the Edmonds case. It consists of Douglas Ginsburg, who was once nominated for the U.S. Supreme Court by President Reagan. He withdrew after it was revealed he had smoked pot as a college student; he later joined the appeals court. Another member, David Sentelle, was chair of the three-judge panel that appointed Ken Starr to be the special prosecutor investigating Clinton. Karen LeCraft Henderson was appointed a federal judge during the Reagan period, then put on the appeals court by the elder President Bush.

In making a plea to open the Edmonds hearing, the ACLU noted appellate arguments normally are accessible to the public. "When the United States asked the Supreme Court to close part of the oral argument in the Pentagon Papers case—a case that involved classified information of the greatest sensitivity—that motion was denied," the ACLU said. "Likewise, in an appeal in the ongoing prosecution of Zacarias Moussaoui, an alleged conspirator in the September 11th terrorist plot, the court rejected the government's move to close the entire hearing."

Edmonds, an American citizen, was born in Iran and grew up in Turkey. She speaks Farsi, Turkish, and other languages of central Asia. She was hired by the FBI in the hectic aftermath of 9-11 to translate various top-secret materials collected by the bureau from wire taps, surveillance reports, interviews with agents, etc.

In that capacity she began observing the bureau's bizarre, even surreal practices, including such things as sending people to Guantanamo to translate statements by prisoners who spoke Farsi. Only trouble was the translators weren't speakers of Farsi, but were instead Kurds speaking a Turkish dialect. She stumbled across various mistranslations and interpreters who were not able to make accurate translations. Then she discovered someone was signing her initials to approve translations she never made. And she observed translations being doctored or blocked by the actions by one translator or another. She discovered one translator whose relative was working for an embassy which the FBI had under surveillance.

When Edmonds protested to her supervisors, she has said, the ignored her or told her off, at one point calling her "a whore." Eventually she was fired by a supervisor who told Edmonds he'd look forward to meeting her again—in jail.

Taking her protests to Congress, she won support from the leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who exchanged letters with the Justice Department's Inspector General's office, which said it was making an investigation. In the midst of all this, then attorney general John Ashcroft stepped in and threw down a gag order by invoking the arcane states secrets privilege, under which the government can classify whatever materials it wishes in the interests of national security. Last year, the Edmonds case was dismissed by a federal district court judge. The government had never even bothered to file an answer to her complaint.

The case that was argued this morning concerned a complaint by Edmonds that the government was denying her First Amendment rights. Only after she was fired did Edmonds go to the Congress. She is saying she played by the rules and was squashed by the government without cause or explanation. And when she went outside the official channel to reveal what was going on within the bureau, the government responded by classifying her previous attempts to speak out, including press accounts written before the classification came down. One of them was a 60 Minutes segment.

"The federal government is routinely retaliating against government employees who uncover weaknesses in our ability to prevent terrorist attacks or protect public safety," said Ann Beeson, associate legal director of the ACLU. "From firing whistleblowers to using special privileges to cover up mistakes, the government is taking extreme steps to shield itself from political embarrassment while gambling with our safety."

Not much One for Corporate Media - But this Is Kida Like Celebrating 23.Apr.2005 23:04

Ben Waiting

< http://www.katu.com/news/news_poll_terror_task_force.asp>
KATU poll

< http://www.kgw.com/>
KGW poll

"Civil Rights Preserved!"

&^%#@* mistake / correction 23.Apr.2005 23:21

B W


According to another post on this site 24.Apr.2005 08:15

Media Watch

Apparently, in spite of their own poll to the contrary (which is still reporting a sizeable majority of respondents in favor of Potter's decision), KATU reported last night that the majority of people "either did not understand the question, or were opposed to the mayor's decision."

I did not see the report, and I have difficulty imagining how they could ascertain that people "did not understand the question" when there is no way to indicate that in the poll itself. (It asks one question, and the only two possible responses are "yes" or "no." There is no "I don't understand the question" response.) However, as we know from overwhelming evidence, much of which has been documented by the Portland Indy Video Collective, KATU lies repeatedly. Time to look into ownership and board membership of KATU, if you haven't already done so. It's an interesting journey.

FBI trail of deception 25.Apr.2005 23:30

another citizen

Read: War Against The Panthers - A Study of Repression In America; Author: Dr Huey P Newton. Look at the Judi Bary case. Then ask yourself - Why am I paying city taxes for the FBI to spy on me and my neighbors with intent to use The (unconstitutional) Patriot Act against me and my neighbors? What has happened to my democratic rights under The United States Constitution and Bill of Rights? I recall Fishbone recently saying "President Hitler." However, President Hitler didn't start the eroding of our rights. Remember, according to the mainstream press there is at least one CIA agent in Oregon because there is at least one CIA agent per each US Regional Terrorism Task Force. CIA agents do not write reports that are seen by the public as FBI agents reports which do become in part, part of the public record in US Senate archives. Dr Huey Newton contended that duing the Johnson administraion, a CIA agent disguised as a Chicago Police Officer assasinated Ralph Hampton while Ralph was unconscience, by being drugged by an undercover agent, in his own bed. Judi Bary was bombed during the Bush I administration under the same counter intelligence program FBI chief responsible for the war against the panthers, Richard Held. So, yes the same person has been indicted for destroying the panthers, a legal political party, and bombing Judi Bary, an organizing protestor: Nobody!