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Down the Memory Hole: Carl Cameron's TV story of 9-11 COMPLICIT Israeli Spy Ring in U.S.

First it was poor journalism for FOX to entirely purge the story from their websites. Then it was found they even purged it from THEIR OFFICIAL ARCHIVES. Something interesting in the news here worth looking at, I say.

Then, FOX threatened various other areas like the website whatreallyhappened.com to remove it!

I suggest you populate this all over the internet.

"...far more telling is the admission made by a US Official (in part one) quoted in the Fox News report that hard evidence exists linking 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the 200+ Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, however, this Israeli=911 evidence had been CLASSIFIED."
caught spies specialties: mil. intelligence, e-surveillance, DEMOLITION weaponry
caught spies specialties: mil. intelligence, e-surveillance, DEMOLITION weaponry
integral to the e-spying: Amdocs, Comverse, Odigo, Israeli Owned, full of spies
integral to the e-spying: Amdocs, Comverse, Odigo, Israeli Owned, full of spies
The U.S. map coverage of the Israeli Spy Network
The U.S. map coverage of the Israeli Spy Network
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VIDEO: Down the Memory Hole: Carl Cameron's TV story about 9-11 Israeli Spy Ring in U.S.
by OUTFOXER Friday, Apr. 15, 2005 at 4:55 PM

First it was poor journalism for FOX to entirely purge the story from their websites. Then it was found they even purged it from THEIR OFFICIAL ARCHIVES. Something interesting worth looking at in these videos, I say. Next, FOX has even threatened other areas on the internet, like the non-profit website whatreallyhappened.com, to remove it!

I suggest you populate this all over the internet because it shows that rogue Israelis working with U.S. traitors did 9-11 instead of "Arabs." "...far more telling is the admission made by a US Official (in part one) quoted in the Fox News report that hard evidence exists linking 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the 200+ Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, however, this Israeli=911 evidence had been CLASSIFIED.

four part segement here, in 4 .mov format videos:
 http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/04/1733293.php


TELEPHONE BLACKMAIL, TERRORIST MONITORING, WARNING WHEN POLICE GET NEAR, AND A LITTLE DEMOLITIONS EXPERIENCE...


AMDOCS

What Israel has done in return was to set up government subsidized
telecommunications companies which operate here in the United States. One of these companies is Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for 90% of the phone companies in the USA. Amdocs' main computer center for billing is actually in Israel and allows those with access to do what intelligence agencies call "traffic analysis"; a picture of someone's activities based on a pattern of who they are calling and when.


COMVERSE INFOSYS

Another Israeli telecom company is Comverse Infosys, which subcontracts the installation of the automatic tapping equipment now built into every phone system in America. Comverse maintains its own connections to all this phone tapping equipment, insisting that it is for maintenance purposes only.


PROTECTING ISRAELI DRUG RUNNING IN UNITED STATES THROUGH THIS NETWORK AS WELL

However, Converse has been named as the most likely source for leaked information regarding telephone calls by law enforcement that derailed several investigations into not only espionage, but drug running as well.


ODIGO, ANOTHER ISRAELI OWNED COMPANY

Yet another Israeli telecom company is Odigo, which provides the core message passing system for all the "Instant Message" services. Two hours before the attacks on the World Trade Towers, Odigo employees received a warning. Odigo has an office 2 blocks from the former location of the World Trade Towers.

"I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government... It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now." -- Senator Graham as quoted in "Senator: At Least One Foreign Country Assisted the 9/11 Terrorists"

Let us be clear here. There is nothing benign about Israel spying on the United States. When Jonathan Pollard stole our nuclear secrets (which your taxes paid to develop) and sent them to Israel, Israel did not hesitate to trade those secrets to the USSR in exchange for increased emigration quotas.

The implication of these facts is that the billions of our tax dollars sent to Israel (while women and children sleep in America's alleys and eat out of trash bins) have bought and paid for a monstrous phone tracking and phone tapping system that can eavesdrop on almost any phone call in America.


WHITE HOUSE PHONES TAPPED, BY ISRAEL, BLACKMAIL NETWORK IN PLACE

Even the White House phones were open to such tapping by listening in on the other end outside the White House itself.

This actually happened. The Ken Starr report on Whitewater describes how Bill Clinton informed Monica Lewinsky that their phone sex conversations had been recorded. At the same time, Clinton ordered the FBI to cease the hunt for an Israeli mole known to be operating inside the White House itself!

So here we have a foreign nation able to listen in on most phones at will, using taps that cannot be found because they are built into the phone system itself, and willing to use the information gleaned from those calls to blackmail Americans into any desired course of action. This may well be what Ariel Sharon meant when he stated that the Jewish people control America.

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FOX NEWS AND CNN CENSOR THEMSELVES OVER THIS ISSUE

Fox News, alone of all the media, actually ran the story as a four part broadcast, and put the story up on its web site. Then, without explanation, Fox News erased the story from their web site and have never mentioned it again. CNN followed by "Orwellizing" their report of the two hour advance warning of the WTC attacks sent to Odigo employees. But far more telling is the admission made by a US Official in part one of the Fox News report that hard evidence existed linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the more than 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, but that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.


WHOLE U.S. INTELLIGENCE NETWORK COMPROMISED BY ISRAELI BLACKMAIL/SPY RINGS

"Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career suicide."
-- Carl Cameron, as quoted in The Spies Who Came In From The Art Sale

"While I agree with you, if I say anything about US geopolitical interests with Israel, I might as well clean off my desk."
-- Unnamed reporter as quoted in American Media Censorship and Israel


U.S. MEDIA COMPROMISED BY THE ISRAELI SPY NETWORK AS WELL

The actions of the US media are those of people trying to protect this spy ring and those that the spy ring worked for.

The actions of the US media are those of traitors to the American people.

 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html



OTHER FALSE FLAG OPERATIONS SINCE 9-11, WHERE ISRAELI MOSSAD ALLOWED TO GO FREE





MEXICO, FAILED FALSE FLAG OPERATION, ISRAELIS ALLOWED TO GO FREE

On October 10, 2001, CNN made a brief mention of a foiled terrorist bomb plot in the Mexican Parliament building. They promised to bring any further developments of this story to their viewers, but the incident was never heard of again in America. But the story appeared in bold headlines on the front page of the major Mexican newspapers (2) and was also posted on the official website of the Mexican Justice Department. (3) Two terror suspects were apprehended in the Mexican Chamber of Deputies. Caught red-handed, they had in their possession a high powered gun, nine hand grenades, and C-4 plastic explosives (great stuff for demolishing buildings!) Within days, this blockbuster story not only disappeared from the Mexican press, but the Israelis were quietly released and deported! The two terrorists were Salvador Gerson Sunke and Sar ben Zui. Can you guess what their ethnicity was? Sunke was a Mexican jew and Zui was a colonel with the Israeli special forces (MOSSAD). (4)

The story in El Diario de Mexico went on to reveal that the Zionist terrorists had fake Pakistani passports on them. Can you say "false flag operation?" The probable motive of this particular botched terrorist operation was to involve oil rich Mexico in the "War on Terrorism". (The War on Israel's enemies would be a more accurate description). Mexico is no military power, but the psychological trauma of an "Arab" attack on Mexico would surely have induced Mexico to provide unlimited cheap oil to her American "protector". With cheap oil flowing to America at low prices from Mexico, the US could better afford to break off relations with the oil rich Arab states in general and Saudi Arabia in particular. That's why the planners chose 15 Saudi identities to steal for the 9-11 operation.

Many Mexicans expressed shock at the release of the two Israelis. But when you learn that Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Relations is a Zionist named Jorge Gutman, it's not surprising! The Zionist tentacles reach even into Mexico! La Voz de Aztlan (Mexican-American news service), in it's excellent investigative report revealed:

"La Voz de Aztlan has learned that the Israeli Embassy used heavy handed measures to have the two Israelis released. Very high level emergency meetings took place between Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Jorge Gutman, General Macedo de la Concha and a top Ariel Sharon envoy who flew to Mexico City specially for that purpose. Elías Luf of the Israeli Embassy worked night and day and their official spokeswoman Hila Engelhart went into high gear after many hours of complete silence. What went on during those high level meetings no one knows, but many in Mexico are in disbelief at their release." (5)


AN UNSPECIFIED U.S. MIDEAST STATE, ISRAELIS CAUGHT WITH NUCLEAR PLANT PLANS, ALLOWED TO GO FREE

In November of 2001, 6 more suspicious Israelis were detained in an unspecified mid-eastern state. They had in their possession box cutters, oil pipeline plans, and nuclear power plant plans. (6) The local police called in the Feds and Immigration officials took over the scene and released the men without calling the FBI. The Jerusalem Post, the Miami Herald, (7) and the Times of London (8) all carried this amazing story and all revealed how furious FBI officials were that these terror suspects with nuclear power plant plans were allowed to go free. Of course, the corruption riddled FBI would only have caved into Zionist pressure from the Justice Department's Criminal Division boss, Michael Chertoff, and also from the ADL's "partner", FBI boss Robert Mueller - who would no doubt have found a way to eventually release those Israeli terror suspects too.


ISRAELIS ATTEMPT TO ASSASSINATE U.S. CONGRESSMAN ISSA AND BLOW UP A MOSQUE, ISRAELIS ALLOWED TO GO FREE? WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS STORY?

In December, 2001, the Los Angeles Times published the story of how two jewish terrorists were arrested by the FBI for plotting to blow up the office of US Congressman of Arab descent - Darrell Issa (R-CA), and a California mosque. (9) Irv Rubin and Earl Kruger of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) were charged with conspiracy to destroy a building by means of explosives. This story got brief national coverage but quickly disappeared too. These Zionists sure love blowing up buildings and killing innocent people don't they?


ANOTHER MOVING VAN COVER, DOGS SENSED EXPLOSIVES, ISRAELIS ONCE MORE LET OUT OF THE COUNTRY? WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS STORY?

In May of 2002, yet another moving van was pulled over in Oak Harbor, Washington near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station. Fox News reported that the van was pulled over for speeding shortly after midnight. The passengers told the police they were delivering furniture, but because it was so late at night, the police weren't buying the story. A bomb sniffing dog was brought in and the dog detected the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosives in the truck (great stuff for demolishing buildings!)

Both Fox News (10) and the Ha'aretz newspaper of Israel (11) reported that the two "movers" were Israelis.


DECEMBER 2002, SHARON RUNNING FAKE AL-QUEDA CELLS IN ISRAEL--FULL OF MOSSAD AGENTS; WAS SHARON DOING THE SAME IN THE 9-11 ATTACKS IN THE UNITED STATES?

In December, 2002, Ariel Sharon made the amazing claim that Al-Qaeda agents were operating inside of Israel. But when Palestinian authorities apprehended the suspects, they turned out to be Palestinian traitors impersonating Al-qaeda agents for the MOSSAD! From the Sydney Morning Herald of Austrailia:

"Palestinian security forces have arrested a group of Palestinians for collaborating with Israel and posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network, a senior official said yesterday. ..The arrests come two days after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon charged al-Qaeda militants were operating in Gaza and in Lebanon.

It was considered a surprise because the Gaza Strip is virtually sealed off by Israeli troops. The hardline Israeli leader also charged other members of the terror group were cooperating with Lebanon's Shi'ite militia Hizbollah" (12)

You know, if Sharon wasn't so dangerous, I'd almost be amused by his bullshit!


ACCORDING TO FOX NEWS, THROUGH 2000-2001, OVER 200 ISRAELI SPIES APPREHENDED IN THE U.S., LARGEST EVER SPY RING TO BE UNCOVERED IN U.S. HISTORY

THEN THEY CENSOR THEIR OWN STORIES ABOUT IT

According to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200 Israeli spies were arrested. (13) It was the largest spy ring to ever be uncovered in the history of the United States. The Washington Post also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection with the 9-11 investigation. (14) US. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did a excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its website! In it's place was posted a chilling, Orwellian message which reads: "This story no longer exists." (15) Fortunately for the sake of history, the FOX transcripts were copied onto to many other websites and all four parts are available for your review. (see footnotes.)


SPIES WERE "army veterans with electronics and explosives expertise."

The FOX series and other mainstream news media sources revealed that many of these Israelis were army veterans with electronics and explosives expertise.


SPIES FAILED LIE DETECTOR TESTS;

FBI SAID THEIR INVESTIGATION COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF THE PRE-WARNINGS BY ISRAELI WIRETAPPING THROUGH AMDOCS

Many of them failed lie detector tests. FBI agents told FOX that some of their past investigations were compromised because suspects had been tipped off by Israeli wiretapping specialists. It was discovered that Israeli companies such as Comverse and Amdocs have the capability to tap American telephones (great for blackmailing all those wife-cheating politicians!) FBI agents also told FOX they believed the Israelis had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks. (which certainly would explain why no Israelis died in the WTC [correction: 3 did, though zero Israelis as employees in the WTC died, and the only 3 Israelis that did die were only visiting on business or were presumably related to the hijacked planes that ended up somewhere...])


U.S. OFFICIAL TELLS FOX NEWS THAT ISRAEL IS INVOLVED IN 9-11, THOUGH INFORMATION CLASSIFIED

Still another US official informed FOX that some of the detained Israelis actually had links to 9-11, but he refused to describe the nature of those links. The FBI official told FOX's Carl Cameron:

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell you about the evidence that has been gathered. It is classified information." (16) (emphasis added)

Then there was that small army of Israeli "art students" who were arrested for trying to sneak into secured US Federal buildings and staking out 36 Department of Defense sites. Some of these suspicious "art students" even showed up at the homes of Federal employees. (17) Ron Hatchett, a Department of Defense analyst, told Channel 11, KHOU news in Houston that he believed that the "art students" were gathering intelligence for future attacks. Here's an excerpt from the October 1, 2001 KHOU investigative report by Anna Werner:

"Could federal buildings in Houston and other cities be under surveillance by foreign groups? That's what some experts are asking after federal law enforcement and security officials - nationally and in Houston - described for the 11 News Defenders a curious pattern of behavior by a group of people claiming to be Israeli art students."

"Hatchett says they could be doing what he would be doing if he were a terrorist, sizing up the situation: "We need to know what are the entrances to this particular building. We need to know what are the surveillance cameras that are operating. We need to know how many guards are at this operation, when do they take breaks?" Says Hatchett: This is not a bunch of kids selling artwork."

"A former Defense Department analyst, Hatchett believes groups may be gathering intelligence for possible future attacks. "Some organization, thinking in terms of a potential retaliation against the U.S. government could be scouting out potential targets and ... looking for targets that would be vulnerable."

And a source tells the Defenders of another federal memo, stating that besides Houston and Dallas, the same thing has happened at sites in New York, Florida, and six other states, and even more worrisome, at 36 sensitive Department of Defense sites. "One defense site you can explain," says Hatchett, "well that was just a serendipitous, ... ... .. Thirty-six? That's a pattern." (18)

A Federal memo stated that these "art students" may have had ties to an "Islamic terror group". More likely, they were the "Islamic terror group"! Remember the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946, and how the "Arab terrorists" were actually Irgun terrorists? Remember the Zionist terrorists caught in Mexico with Arab passports? Remember the official motto of the Mossad - By Way of Deception Thou Shalt Do War. Are you getting the picture? Can you say "false flag operations"?

In a follow up report a few days later, KHOU Channel 11 revealed that Dallas was also targetted:

"11 News reported how people claiming to be "Israeli art students" might be trying to sneak into federal buildings and defense sites, and even doing surveillance. And at least one expert said he thought it could all be preparation for an attack. Well, now federal sources say they are not ruling out that all of this could be connected with the hijackings on September 11, because of events in another Texas city.

In Dallas, the so-called students hit early this year at the city's FBI building, the Drug Enforcement Administration and at the Earle Cabell Federal building, where guards found one student wandering the halls with a floor plan of the building.

So the Dallas INS went on the alert, finding and arresting 15 people in March. Thirteen claimed to be Israelis and two are professed Colombians. But according to sources, once again their passports were phony. And another federal source says some of those arrested also appeared to have lists of federal employees and their home addresses.


ISRAELI SPIES SIMPLY DEPORTED INSTEAD OF ARRESTED

All 15 "students" have now been deported. Now, since our first story ran Sunday night, some viewers called who said that they've been visited by people who claim to be Israeli students selling art." (19)

Absolutely mind boggling! Why were Israeli explosives experts, posing as "art students" roaming the halls of US Federal buildings?

Why were Israeli army vets, armed with explosives and detonators, roaming the halls of the Mexican Congress?

Why were Israeli "movers" caught in vans with explosives residue?

Might some of these shady characters have once also "roamed the halls" of the World Trade Center prior to 9-11?

Why aren't "60 minutes", "Nightline", "20/20", and the rest of the Zionist media aggressively pursuing the story behind the Israeli "art students" and "movers" with 1/1,000th the zeal that they pursued Martha Stewart over allegations of insider trading (who cares?), or 1/10,000th the zeal that they pursued the Catholic Church over an occasional pedophile priest? (funny how we never hear about the documented cases of pedophile rabbis!) or 1/100,000th the zeal that they pursue the Muslim bogeyman on a daily basis?

Something smells rotten here!

One would think that these intriguing mysteries would have great TV audience appeal, especially in light of the fact that the Oklahoma Federal building was blown up in 1995 by the since executed Timothy McVeigh (dead men tell no tales), and a "John Doe # 2" of "Middle-Eastern appearance", who was never tracked down or pursued despite numerous eye-witness accounts and despite an FBI All Points Bulletin which clearly described him as such.

Of America's major networks, only FOX News made a meager attempt to investigate these mysteries, but FOX was quickly silenced by Zionist pressure.

This alone is evidence of criminal activity!

Before his excellent work was silenced, FOX's Carl Cameron reported this amazing bit of information:

"Investigators within the DEA, INS, and FBI have all told FOX News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying is considered career suicide." (20) (emphasis added)

Did you catch that?

If a Federal investigator dares to "even suggest" Israeli spying, he has committed "career suicide"! And if a journalist like FOX's Cameron dares to bring this scandal to light, he is told to shut his mouth. If they persist, they may even be called "anti-Semitic" - a label which has served as the kiss of death for many a career.


THE 9-11 MOSSAD NETWORK STILL IN PLACE IN OTHER WORDS

This means that Zionist Mafia can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, and however it wants - including orchestrating, financing, executing, and covering up the true story of events in the Middle East, the 9-11 massacre, and the ensuing "War on Terrorism" (war on Israel's enemies).

Now do you remember the Mossad's "warning" about the 200 "Al-Qaeda terrorists" said to have been preparing major attacks in the US? (21) At the time of this writing, we are one year into the largest investigation in American history, and not one of these 200 "terrorists" has yet to be uncovered. (22) But 200 Israeli spies were uncovered, among them many military members, electronics experts, wiretapping and phone tapping specialists, and explosives experts with the skill to bring down tall buildings. (23) Logic and common sense leads to the conclusion that the "200 Al Qaeda terrorists" were in reality, 200 Zionist terrorists sent to frame the Arabs for terrorist attacks and drag America into a war.

On December 11, 2002, Senator Bob Graham (D-FL), a leading member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, appeared as a guest on the PBS Newshour with Gwen Ifill. Graham surprised Ifill by expressing his belief that a foreign government or governments had to have funded and supported the hijackers. Here's part of the exchange:

IFILL: "Are you suggesting that you are convinced that there was a state sponsor behind 9/11?"

GRAHAM: "I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing - although that was part of it - by a sovereign foreign government and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down, make the further case, or find the evidence that would indicate that that is not true and we can look for other reasons why the terrorists were able to function so effectively in the United States."

IFILL: "Do you think that will ever become public, which countries you're talking about?"

Now listen to Graham's bombshell.........:

GRAHAM: "It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now. And, we need to have this information now because it's relevant to the threat that the people of the United States are facing today." (24) (emphasis added)

Senator Graham is suggesting that US intelligence knows which foreign government helped the terrorists, but the government isn't going to tell us for another 30 years!

Given the current state of anti-Muslim war hysteria being promoted by the media and government, common sense dictates that if an Arab government was ever discovered to have sponsored 9-11, we'd be seeing the evidence night and day on the controlled media, and hearing about it non-stop from all the President's warmongers as well as the Israeli-occupied US Congress and Senate. This alone is evidence that no Arab government was involved in 9-11.

It can't be an Arab government. Why would any Arab government sponsor "Al-qaeda", an organization dedicated to overthrowing what it sees as corrupt, US-backed Arab governments?

What Arab government would have incentive to attack America- its best oil purchasing customer? What Arab government would have the ability to shield itself from US media exposure? What Arab government would be so suicidal, so hell-bent on its own destruction, as to attack a mighty nuclear superpower like the United States? So who, if not an Arab government could be the chief sponsor of 9-11? Again, let's go back to FOX News quoting an FBI official. Pay close attention to the specific language used:

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell you about the evidence that has been gathered. It is classified information." (25) (empasis added)

In order for evidence "linking these Israelis to 9-11" to become classified, the evidence has to have existed in the first place! Furthermore, but it must have been very, very serious stuff indeed. Only the really ugly stuff merits the distinction of being "classified!"

It may be possible that the good Senator doesn't know himself which country or countries are involved. Graham may still be under the delusion that it's an Arab government. Or, perhaps he's a disgusted patriot just trying to throw a subtle shot at Israel in his own little way, without actually having to commit "career suicide" as so many other anti-Zionist politicians have in the past. History will reveal the truth one day, just as it did for Pearl Harbor. The trouble is, by that time, no one will care about 9-11 and this phony war "War on Terrorism" anymore. The American attention span does not reach "20-30 years". It's closer to 20-30 minutes, about the length of an average Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, or Tom Brokaw infomercial. If even that!

History always repeats itself. But who will teach this history to the American people when the Zionists control the information industry? The Zionist Mafia and their ass-kissing careerist henchmen in media, government, academia, and business have all of the bases covered.


 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html


four part segement here, in 4 .mov format videos:
 http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/04/1733293.php

Demolition 16.Apr.2005 03:08

or

disintegration?

Bob Graham's stance 16.Apr.2005 16:25

JR

Bob Graham was the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee when 9/11 happened, not just a leading member. I don't think this article mentions it, but the country he is alluding to is Saudi Arabia, and he has made that clear for some time, and wrote a book concerning that in part.

On the morning of 9/11, Graham and Porter Goss, who was then chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and now CIA chief, and other members of Congress, were in a breakfast meeting with the chief of Pakistan's ISI, that country's security service. Michael Chossudovsky has written about the meeting, and apparently the LA Times covered it, though I've never been able to find that article. Ironically, the ISI chief was then prompted to stick around Washington for a couple extra days, to help build the "war on terror" consensus.

I've always thought Graham's emphasis on Saudi Arabia was odd, and perhaps meant to draw attention away from Pakistan's government, and from that breakfast meeting in particular, whatever the circumstances surrounding it were. Likely, it was just a regular old meeting, but then the attacks, and Pakistan's role in both nurturing the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, gave the meeting at least the appearance of awkwardness. Aside from Chossudovsky though, not even the apparent awkwardness has been noted by anyone.

Graham no loyalist! 16.Apr.2005 20:55

poster

Yeah, I totally find it at least disingenous to talk about Graham as a loyalist to the U.S. Constitution of some sort.

What that quote left out was that Graham was the major writer of the Patriot Act I!!!

And that he was the one meeting with the FBI claimed "9-11 moneyman" Gen. Mahmood Ahmad, the head of the Pakistani ISI, on 9-11!

Graham even went to Pakistan with other members of Congress in the previous two weeks to iron out something secretive! Plus, while there it is claimed that they met with the Taliban Ambassador in Isfhhan, Pakistan!

Remember as well that Graham attempted to insert himself as a Democratic Presidential Canddiate. his position? that Bush was "BEING TOO SOFT IN THE [artificial] WAR ON TERROR(TM)!"

Graham is no friend of the American people--or any people for that matter. How can you go to war on an abstract noun, "terror?"

In other words, he's part of the state terrorist clique in the US government at present. He's presumably "retired from the Senate," though for a comparison the networks around George Tenet and David Boren were still politically powerful years after Boren was out and kept Tenet in place as his underling well past 9-11....

American Complicity vs Israeli Complicity in 911 05.Oct.2010 11:35

Israeli 911 Truther

It is alarming to see how often the full credit of the 911 conspiracy is shifting from Al Qaeda to Israel. Its clear now that there is a monumental conspiracy of 911 to not only include the twin towers, but the Pentagon and the flight 93 downed in Shanksville.

It is also becoming clear that there is a cover up of monumental proportions by every major law and spy agencies in the US Government. To think that all this planning, initiating and cover up can be done right under the noses of the sophisticated American security agencies by Israel is mind boggling.

I can accept that there might be Israeli complicity, but not without the help of the above mentioned American organizations. There is plenty of evidence to go around to implicate many Americans.

So, as I keep an open mind and accept the possibility that Israeli intelligence had a hand in this and that they were part of a mastermind plot cooked up by the New World Order to create a false flag attack, I am becoming aware that there is blame shifting from NWO and their agents to Israel and Jews.

Many pages professing to "prove" that "Zionists" were involved in the 911 attacks, seem to single out only Israel and only "Zionists". As you read their "proof", you see them trip and say "Jews" or "done by Jews" etc.. Its clearly becoming an attack on Jews through a supposed neutral target, "The Zionists". One needs to know the motives of the Zionists before one links them to world conquest. Zionists once considered a homeland for Jews in another country than the then Palastine and now Israel. It was later decided that return to the Jewish roots was most desirable and that the formation of Zionism would be the thrust to bring immigrants from Eastern Europe to Palastine and create a Jewish Homeland. Nowhere in their charter was there a clause to suggest that after the move to Palastine the world would be next. It is not what these pioneers envisioned, and there was no such broad goal in their agenda. So, having said that, it should be made clear to those who have not taken time to understand what Zionism is about, that Zionism is not about world conquest or New World Order aspirations.

As for Jews, not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Jews are Israelis. Yet, when claims about Zionism are made they usually include all Jews, regardless of their current national citizenship. When Jews are attacked this way through false blame, and are mentioned as "conspirators" of 911, people who do so are clearly motivated not by facts but by racist and anti-Semitic motivations. We need to differentiate between Jew, Zionist, Israeli before we lump all three into one.

If elements of the Israeli government were complicit in espionage or terrorism against the US, they certainly did not bring it up for referendum to the Israeli public. It is not a view which Israelis would embrace considering the many Americans who now are holding dual citizenship in Israel. Also, the moral values of the common Israeli citizen is one which is not unlike American values towards what American agencies have done during the Iran Contra drugs for arms, Vietnam War for the War Industry, the invasion of Iraq for Oil, and invasion of Afghanistan for its drug production. What American would tolerate some of the crimes committed in their behalf by their government??? Similarly, Israelis would feel the same, and so would many of us Jews throughout the world. Jews all over have a special place in their heart for America and are grateful for its undying support in the past sixty years. To think that an Israeli or American would condone attacks on 911 by their respective governments, is preposterous.

Did Israeli government collaborate with Americans secretly in the 911 attacks? Very possibly yes, but that does not make all Americans or all Israelis culpable in this event.

Why would Israelis be involved in such an event? Possibly because they have elements within the Israeli government which has the same ambitions as the American Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations and other entities with aspirations for power and global governance. I believe that is very plausible, but I wont accept it as across the board conspiracy by "Zionists" or "Jews" everywhere! In the US, UK, and Israel, there are evil groups with plots to create global governance through terror and fear. If Israel's globalist fringe are involved, they are not the voice of all Jews or Israelis. One needs to distinguish the difference between select few and the majority just as one needs to know what it means for America to be referred to "Global Opportunists" or "Imperialists" by other nations, its not the citizenry thats behind these corrupt few.

Just as I would like to see foreigners stop blaming the US citizens for the crimes perpetuated their government who has secret agendas, I would also hope blame of "Jews" or "Zionists" is not heaped on Jews or Zionists because of the few who work in the shadows that even the average Jew or citizen of Israel knows nothing about.

I do want to consider the complicity of sinister groups of Americans with financial and intelligence powers as well as possible collaboration by Israeli agents and Al Qaeda agents. I truly believe Osama Bin Ladin was courted and assisted by the US pre 911, and that he agreed to be a scapegoat. His lack of capture is a sign of the free pass he is getting. There may be other groups involved that directly tie in to the Illuminati and Bilderberg groups, and if so, it does not make this exclusively an "Israeli" or "Zionist" plot. Even if Jews or Zionists or Israelis were involved, to suggest its an exclusive plot by them is way off base and illogical due to the monumental evidence against such a possibility. Unless, you are a bigot or anti-Semite seeking to destroy Jews by linking them without consideration to other factors and evidence.

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