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ISRAELIS were 9-11 short sale stock buyers, betting on WTC terror strikes, story killed...

FYI. Makes sense to me. Particularly when the Mossad cells were watching the "Al-CIAda" cells the whole time from Virginia to the 9-11 day-of when they were filming the towers being hit and collapsing, celebrating all the while. Of course Rabbi Chertoff of the Homeland Security Department now (then, the second in command under Ashcroft at the DOJ) let the Mossad budding filmmakers out of the country, without explanation, without much media coverage.

trenchant quote: "Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars.""
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SEC SECRET PROBE OF STOCK DEALINGS BEFORE 9/11


Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars."

Short selling of stocks involves the opportunity to gain large profits by passing shares to a friendly third party, then buying them back when the price falls. Historically, if this precedes a traumatic event, it is an indication of foreknowledge. It is widely known that the CIA uses the Promis software to routinely monitor stock trades as a possible warning sign of a terrorist attack or suspicious economic behavior. A week after the Sept.11 attacks, the London Times reported that the CIA had asked regulators for the Financial Services Authority in London to investigate the suspicious sales of millions of shares of stock just prior to the terrorist acts. It was hoped the business paper trail might lead to the terrorists.

Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a clandestine but official effort to resolve the market manipulations There has been a great deal of talk about insider trading of American stocks by certain Israeli groups both in Canada and Germany between August 26 and the Sept.11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Lynne Howard, a spokeswoman for the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE), stated that information about who made the trades was available immediately. "We would have been aware of any unusual activity right away. It would have been triggered by any unusual volume. There is an automated system called 'blue sheeting,' or the CBOE Market Surveillance System, that everyone in the business knows about. It provides information on the trades - the name and even the Social Security number on an account - and these surveillance systems are set up specifically to look into insider trading. The system would look at the volume, and then a real person would take over and review it, going back in time and looking at other unusual activity."

Howard continued, "The system is so smart that even if there is a news event that triggers a market event it can go back in time, and even the parameters can be changed depending on what is being looked at. It's a very clever system and it is instantaneous. Even with the system, though, we have very experienced and savvy staff in our market-regulations area who are always looking for things that might be unusual. They're trained to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Even if it's offshore, it might take a little longer, but all offshore accounts have to go through U.S. member firms - members of the CBOE - and it is easily and quickly identifiable who made the trades. The member firm who made the trades has to have identifiable information about the client under the 'Know Your Customer' regulations (and we share all information with the Securities and Exchange Commission.)"

Given all of this, at a minimum the CBOE and government regulators who are conducting the secret investigations have known for some time who made the options puts on a total of 38 stocks that might reasonably be anticipated to have a sharp drop in value because of an attack similar to the 9/11 episode. The silence from the investigating camps could mean several things: Either terrorists are responsible for the puts on the listed stocks or others besides terrorists had foreknowledge of the attack and used this knowledge to reap a nice financial harvest from the tragedy.

Adam Hamilton of Zeal LLC, a North Dakota-based private consulting company that publishes research on markets worldwide, stated that "I heard that $22 million in profits was made on these put options..."

Federal investigators are continuing to be so closed-mouthed about these stock trades, and it is clear that a much wider net has been cast, apparently looking for bigger international fish involved in dubious financial activity relating to the 9/11 attacks on the world stock markets.

Just a month after the attacks the SEC sent out a list of stocks to various securities firms around the world looking for information. The list includes stocks of American, United, Continental, Northwest, Southwest and US Airways airlines, as well as Martin, Boeing, Lockheed Martin Corp., AIG, American Express Corp, American International Group, AMR Corporation, Axa SA, Bank of America Corp, Bank of New York Corp, Bank One Corp, Cigna Group, CNA Financial, Carnival Corp, Chubb Group, John Hancock Financial Services, Hercules Inc, L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc., LTV Corporation, Marsh & McLennan Cos. Inc., MetLife, Progressive Corp., General Motors, Raytheon, W.R. Grace, Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd., Lone Star Technologies, American Express, the Citigroup Inc. ,Royal & Sun Alliance, Lehman Brothers Holdings, Inc., Vornado Reality Trust, Morgan Stanley, Dean Witter & Co., XL Capital Ltd., and Bear Stearns.

The Times said market regulators in Germany, Japan and the US all had received information concerning the short selling of insurance, airlines and arms companies stock, all of which fell sharply in the wake of the attacks.

City of London broker and analyst Richard Crossley noted that someone sold shares in unusually large quantities beginning three weeks before the assault on the WTC and Pentagon.

He said he took this as evidence that someone had insider foreknowledge of the attacks.

"What is more awful than he should aim a stiletto blow at the heart of Western financial markets?" he added. "But to profit from it? Words fail me."

The US Government also admitted it was investigating short selling, which evinced a compellingly strong foreknowledge of the coming Arab attack.

There was unusually heavy trading in airline and insurance stocks several days before Sept.11, which essentially bet on a drop in the worth of the stocks.

It was reported by the Interdisciplinary Center, a counter-terrorism think tank involving former Israeli intelligence officers, that insiders made nearly $16 million profit by short selling shares in American and United Airlines, the two airlines that suffered hijacking, and the investment firm of Morgan Stanley, which occupied 22 floors of the WTC.

Apparently none of the suspicious transactions could be traced to bin Laden because this news item quietly dropped from sight, leaving many people wondering if it tracked back to American firms or intelligence agencies.

Most of these transactions were handled primarily by Deutsche Bank-A.B.Brown, a firm which until 1998 was chaired by A. B."Buzzy" Krongard, who later became executive director of the CIA.

More serious was an article in the Sept. 28, 2001 edition of the Washington Post stating that officials with the instant messaging firm of Odigo in New York confirmed that two employees in Israel received text messages warning of an attack on the WTC two hours before the planes crashed into the buildings!

The firm's vice president of sales and marketing, Alex Diamandis said it was possible that the warning was sent to other Odigo members, but they had not received any reports of such.

The day after, the Jerusalem Post claimed two Israelis died on the hijacked airplanes and that 4,000 were missing at the WTC.

A week later, a Beirut television station reported that 4,000 Israeli employees of the WTC were absent the day of the attack.

This information spread across the Internet but was quickly branded a hoax.

On Sept. 19, the Washington Post reported about 113 Israelis were missing at the WTC and the next day, President Bush noted more than 130 Israelis were victims.

Finally, on Sept. 22, the New York Times stated "There were, in fact, only three Israelis who had been confirmed as dead: two on the planes and another who had been visiting the towers on business and who was identified and buried."

Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a clandestine but official effort to resolve the market manipulations There has been a great deal of talk about the insider trading of American stocks by certain Israeli groups both in Canada and Germany between August 26 and the Sept.11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Government investigators have maintained a diplomatic silence about a Department of Justice (DOJ) probe of possible profiteering by interested parties with advance knowledge of the attack.

On Sept. 6, 2001, the Thursday before the tragedy, 2,075 put options were made on United Airlines and on Sept. 10, the day before the attacks, 2,282 put options were recorded for American Airlines. Given the prices at the time, this could have yielded speculators between $2 million and $4 million in profit.
The matter still is under investigation and none of the government investigating bodies -including the FBI, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and DOJ -are speaking to reporters about insider trading. Even so, suspicion of insider trading to profit from the Sept. 11 attacks is not limited to U.S. regulators. Investigations were initiated in a number of places including Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom, France, Luxembourg, Hong Kong, Switzerland and Spain. As in the United States, all are treating these inquiries as if they were state secrets.

 http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a048.htm

The attacks of 9/11 were a CIA operation. 11.Apr.2005 12:20

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For some time I believed the Mossad was involved, but the CIA explanation is more in tune with U.S. history. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mossad found out what the CIA was up to and decided to cash in on it.

During the Iran/Contra scandal, when John Motherfucker Poindexter and anti-American shit head, Oliver North, sold U.S. weapons to Iran in exchange for funds sent to the Contras, they tried to finger Israel in the deal as a rogue arms-trading nation that broke faith with the U.S. The truth is that the Israeli Government made the U.S. Government sign off on permission to transfer the weapons to Iran. The anti-Semitic scum in the NSC then pointed their fingers at Israel.

Israel paid a part and made money on Iran/Contra, but they did it on the orders of the U.S. Blaming Israel for these things is a typical CIA ploy.

9/11 is the greatest example of treason in U.S. history. Bush murdered 3,000 Americans on 9/11.

Anti-Israeli Propaganda 11.Apr.2005 13:32

Ivan Boesky

From what source did the author of this article get the information that the SEC identified a group of Israeli speculators as the ones who sold short a list of 38 stocks? As someone who spent many years investigating insider trading, I have a keen interest in this aspect of the 911 attacks, so I carefully followed this aspect of the investigation. But I haven't come across anything approaching this assertion. Yes, the SEC made "bluesheet" queries of stocks and options traded prior to 911, but it never disclosed that Israelis were responsible for the unusual trading.ure.

To state that Israeli citizens did it, is little more than anti-Israeli propaganda and part of the urban myth complex of distortions and lies that has grown up around the 911 attacks. There is plenty of real evidence of bad deeds with which Israel can be bashed, but pre-911 insider trading, until proven otherwise, is not one of them.

And, please, trolls, don't assemble reams of source-links to what will only prove to be second hand gossip to "prove" the Israelis did it. Nothing less will do than a first hand quote from an SEC official who clearly states that a group of Israeli speculators did it.

Agree with Ivan 11.Apr.2005 14:37

Look it up

don't fall into to any research traps - stick to the facts. And there's enought out there. The fact this put options transactions stuff is real and has gone virtually unreported is glaring enough. On another note, are we so sure the CIA is as influencial as we think? I have heard lately that Military Intelligence is the main culprit in domestic terrorism etc.

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Good Post 12.Apr.2005 04:42

Anonymous

"On another note, are we so sure the CIA is as influencial as we think? I have heard lately that Military Intelligence is the main culprit in domestic terrorism etc. "

You my friend, are right on the money. The CIA is a shadow of itself in some ways, a gutted beast these days, wallowing in morale issues, defections, firings, quittings. A sinking ship as Iran Contra thug Goss does his scalpel work. Ditto with the NSA under Hayden (look to writing by ex NSA Wayne Madsen for more on that) - although in both cases, the good news is: leaks, leaks, and more leaks, as clearanced insiders decide the only way to get even....is to squeal.

Where are the real threats? These days its the likes of military types, running crews of plainclothes DIA and Special Ops embedded in our society on our streets. Look for them being coy and more coy. IE: kiss the buzzcuts and the DoD decals in the windows goodbye. This is where the real juice is now, the military intel apparatus, along with the contractors like Blackwater USA, Wackenhut (even though the old man is dead, the company only gets stronger), Halliburton, Kellogg Brown & Root, and others. A good source to pick out some players is ASIS. American Society of Industrial Security (don't ask me how I know ;~) ). Long a haunt for old spooks, their yearly convention is a hotbed of companies who ply the trade.

As for Mossad amongst us, they always have been, always will be, and yes, a problem. You can out them but not easy. I have done so and continue to do so by remote viewing but there, I've let cat out of bag and said too much already.

Evidence? 12.Apr.2005 04:42

Nutmeg State

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." -- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

9-11: The Attack of the International Corporatists 12.Apr.2005 06:00

Prinzowhales

Yes indeed, Israelis were involved in the attack and as noted by prominent Israelis afterwards, Israel benefited from it. But, Americans were also involved: much of the short trading went through CIA Deputy Director Buzzy Kronberg's old bank. The attack provided the psychological rationale for Americans to accept and pay for the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq to restore opium production and control a major source of oil.

The Israeli leadership has also been implicated in the transfer of advanced American weapon systems and technology to China. Yet Washington has been virtually silent on this subject. I suspect that the transfers are sanctioned by Washington as part of a quid pro quo for the Chinese slave-labor production that is savaging America's domestic industry to the benefit of the big internationalist 'free trade' corporations. The Bush Administration just recently bleated at the Europeans about proposed arms deals with the Chinese--perhaps they were trying to get a cut of the same slave-labour action, but didn't have the Israeli backdoor through which to satisfy the Chinese demand for weapons.

What we have are American crooks working together with Israeli crooks to make the world a more hellish place and populations of sheep who keep putting the Demopublican and Likudnik scum into positions of power instead of onto the business end of a rope.

to prinzowales 12.Apr.2005 06:55

tommy

Thank you, Charles.

Follow the money 12.Apr.2005 08:57

aminorex

It seems almost certain from the open evidence that the Mossad was monitoring the execution of the 9/11 attacks -- almost 200 mossad agents were deported within 6 months of 9/11, and the Odigo tip-off was a matter of public record within days of the event -- and it would be contrary to reason to expect that none of the parties would attempt to exploit their knowledge of the plan for personal economic benefit, but this is really just a sideshow. The real money is in Haliburton, KBR, Raytheon, McDonnell-Douglas, and big oil. They've put every US citizen an additional $3000 in debt so far, through the corruption of the state, by means of war crime. I'd call it slavery by degrees.

There might be some investigative value in pursuing the put investors, in that it does represent a trail of information leakage from the central conspirators, but frankly, what are the odds of getting good information from a trail leading into the Mossad? It seems more likely that a U.S. citizen party to the central planning would be conscience-bound to reveal crucial verifiable information, since the traditions of the Mossad and affiliated Zionists hold that outsiders are only of instrumental value, whereas the traditions of the American ideology are democratic and egalitarian.

An interesting exercise in propaganda technique 12.Apr.2005 08:57

Skeptic

Going through the entire article, I can't help but notice that nowhere in it is there aything even resembling direct support for the proposition that Israelis were behind the apparently suspicious trading in the days just before 9/11.

There's plenty of fairly interesting stuff about how smelly activity in financial markets is investigated- but it's lifted from a "mainstream" source, used without proper attribution and presented in such a way as to give the impression that a spokesperson for the CBOE would be giving interviews to a hatefreak rag like The Barnes Review.

Here's the original source, from 2002:
 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_20_18/ai_87460027

TBR also makes use of selective quotation in swiping material. Here's the full text of the Adam Hamilton quote:

"Adam Hamilton of Zeal LLC, a North Dakota-based private consulting company that publishes research on markets worldwide, has looked at the numbers and doesn't see a conspiracy. "I read a lot of stories about the illicit profits, but it didn't make sense to me because the amounts of money that reportedly were made didn't seem large enough for someone with foreknowledge about some drastic and catastrophic drop in stock prices. I heard that $22 million in profits was made on these put options--that's a trivial amount of money for big-time options traders. After all, it makes sense that if you had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 events you could have made hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars betting against these and other stocks that would have been affected. Sure, it makes a much more attractive story to write there's a huge conspiracy, but the numbers don't necessarily show this."

Notice that in tbrnews.org's presentation, this quote is edited in such a way as to give an impression diametrically opposed to what Mr. Hamilton actually said.

There is more from Mr. Hamilton in the original article. Reading it should not only provide some insight into the behavior of airline stocks and the outlook of investors in the period prior to 9/11, it is also very interesting to examine just what bits and pieces tbrnews.org chose to plagiarize- and what they left out.

The Insight article is worth reading for another reason- it develops statistical evidence that very similar spikes in options trading on these airlines have occurred numerous times in the past without correlation to any 9/11-like event. This seriously undermines the contention that the spike observed just prior to 9/11 is in and of itself proof that someone had foreknowledge of the attacks and sought to profit from them. Of course, that doesn't prove that nothing of the kind occurred- it simply subverts the support for the conspiracist interpretation.

TBR goes on to chuck in the myth about the 4,000 Israelis not showing up for work in the WTC. They appear to handle it a bit gingerly, but there is at least one outright lie- that "the Jerusalem Post claimed two Israelis died on the hijacked airplanes and that 4,000 were missing at the WTC"

The actual quote from the Jerusalem Post regarding Israeli nationals and the WTC was "The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack."

In the hands of such paragons of truth as Al-Mansar television and Pravda, this fretting about the well-being of Israelis in New York City and Washington became "4,000 Israelis were warned not to go to work at the WTC" or "4,000 Jews..." depending on the teller.

Here's the original JPost story, quoted, ironically, by the notorious Nazi-sympathizer David Irving:

 http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/10/JerusPost120901.html

So, a little bit of selectively plagiarized quotes from people who actually know what they're talking about, to give an impression of plausibility, a few easily-debunked urban legends which will never stop circulating to provide a sublty prejudicial flavor, a dash of the argument from ignorance and you can throw in a completely unsupported assertion as a conclusion- and the odds are that nobody will notice either the plagiarism, the use of editing to change the tenor of the lifted material, the complete lack of direct support for the conclusion nor the fact that it rests on one of the conspiracy-monger's favorite informal logical fallacies.

Those interested in tbrnews.org's history- and credibility- should take a look at these items from sourcewatch.org (formerly disinfopedia):
 http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barnes_Report
 link to www.sourcewatch.org

So what lessons can we draw from this? IMO, that while you need to be aware of the techniques of the propagandist while reading the "mainstream" media, it's every bit as essential to keep them in mind when reading the "alternative" media- especially what flies in over the transom here at the Alcoa Haberdashery Shoppe.

Oh, and when it comes to running down original sources for stuff posted here, a facility for using search engines is your friend.

This Doesnt surprise me 12.Apr.2005 08:57

Paul Revere

I have been convinced that all of the alphabet soup groups in the US Gov.
had to have conspired to get this done. With help from Dubya, of course,
who bends over backwards for the Israelis.

The goal of course is to take over the world and use 9/11 as the excuse
for more illegal wars and takeovers. They have'nt done so bad so far , have
they? Anybody who doesnt agree with American Fascism just gets disappered,
murdered or both. It looks to me like the CIA has a heart attack and cancer
virus they can use if they are not in a hurry.

sleeping children must awake... 12.Apr.2005 08:59

sisko brill siskobrill@hotmail.com

softly sleeping children understand you are awake!
we're all God's blessed children, only children for heaven's sake!

lay down your thunderous weapons, fall to your knees and pray,
the angels soon will come again to carry us away.

or say your last goodbye's, pull your trigger, take your bow,
you can be as sure as death that empires fall and this is how!

FLASHBACK! 12.Apr.2005 10:56

R. Hess

The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attack would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good... ... .Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The men set up cameras by the Hudson River and trained them on the twin towers.

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery.

"They were like happy, you know ... They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness.
[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact. Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot.
"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." ...for the rest of the story...

 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

It is NOT the Jews! 12.Apr.2005 11:52

Getagrip

In fact it is not any one group that did this, it is a multitude of people from all walks of life. But they have a couple of things in common. They are all bloodline related and somehow tied into the international banking elite. Zionists that were involved hide behind the jews, using anti-semitism as a reason to block any investigations into their dealings. They have been doing this for a VERY long time. Using jews as cannon fodder. Take a read of this site:  http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com Even the jews know this is happening.

Of course many other organizations are involved with the 'agenda"........CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grovers, Skull & Bones, Council of 300, Royal Rountable, Masons, Satanists, etc. etc. Each of these groups act as recruiting agencies for New World Order puppets. On the surface they look fairly harmless, but at the top of each organization resides a steering committee dedicated to One World Government, One World Army (NaTo), One World Religion, One World Currency and a Micro Chipped population that is a cinch to control. This is the agenda and has been for a very long time. To turn our paradise planet into a prison planet. And we are allowing it to happen!

Wakeup people! They want you to point fingers at each other and fight amongst yourselves. While you are doing that, they are stealing everything that is not nailed down and replacing it with bars. Cell bars intended on making all of us slaves and prisoners.

Bush is an organic finger puppet totally controlled in all ways. He is NOT responsible. Do you really believe he actually controls anything? He is not smart enough to eat pretzels let alone run a government. You need to look behind the scenes at the real players. And they are not that hard to find. Because their puppets are really stupid people, they require a lot of handling, which means the puppet masters are near by. And their handlers are behind them. Those are the people you need to investigate. Those are the people who deserve your anger.

Money makes it happen. Take their money away from them and they are powerless. Most of them are old, pasty white men who are ready for heartattacks, cancer, strokes etc. Are you scared of them? So stop the infighting and put your intention on these people. Your time will be much better served doing that.

Anti-semitism is a vile and grave over simplification. 12.Apr.2005 11:54

Tom (presbiterian)

Very interesting article. Suspicious stock market speculation should be one of the easiest indicators leading to the real culprits, if the will would be there to find them. Of course it is not, which indicates to us that it was an inside job. The debate about Mossad somewhat misses the point, as the US Establishment with its various clandestine agencies serve Zionist interests anyway. I would strongly caution against blanket anti-semitic hatred though, as it is self defeating and simply wrong. It is not well known, but there is a recognition in many Jewish circuits, that Zionism causes grave danger to peaceloving observant Jews. These people know better than us, that Zionism colluded with the Nazis to the degree as to prevent them to peacefuly leave Germany, or the Zionist opposition to bomb the rail lines leading to the concetration camps. The statement by a Zionist leader of the day that he valued a milking cow in Israel more than a whole Jewish family in Germany, reflected the prevailing Zionist attitudes about their brethrens. The Zionist leaders needed Jewish wictims as propaganda tools for the post war period. They have not stopped exploiting that tragedy to their own selfish purpose ever since. This is of course a betrayal of the highest order and recognized and condemned as such by the Torah Jews and other anti Zionist Jews. These Jews are recognizeable by their usage of the Menorah as their true peaceful symbol and their rejection of the so called 'Star of David' (a misnomer) as a blasphemous kaballistic symbol originating from the Babilonian exile. My point is, that we should see this conflict not simply as a Jew-Gentile conflict but more as a conflict bettween Zionism with its various New Age and Evangelical Cristian allies against traditional True Torah Jews with their various traditional religious allies of Abrahamic faith. (Yes, that includes religious Muslims as well. Jews has lived peacefuly among the Muslims throughout the centuries and they respected each other.) This Christinan-Muslim, Jewish-Muslim conflict is completely artificial, created and incited by an Illuminist cabal marching toward New World Order. Their slogan is: Order out of Chaos.

Who Profits???????????????? 12.Apr.2005 14:40

I Still Don't Know????????

This raises More Questions than it answers. Who was able to profit from the short sale of the stocks and why would the U.S. Gov. stop this investigation? To answer who would indicate prior knowledge.

Facts no one will discuss. 12.Apr.2005 15:55

The Lone Nut

"None Dare Call It A Conspiracy!" Two facts that escape the mainstream discussion are that the FOX "X-Files" spin-off show, "The Lone Gunman" pilot episode had a plot about an passenger airline on remote control, without the knowledge of its pilots, on it way to hit the W.T.C., which aired in March, 2001; and the fact that Colin Powell personally delivered $43.5 million to the Taliban in May, 2001; show that Osama watches FOX and how he got the money! That's if don't beleive the rotten buildings were imploded so its Jewish owner could double the money on his investment of three months.

Now back to the 853,000 illegals Mexicans who made it across the border in a three month period as seen by Americas best high-tech drone....

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ingnorance is Strenght, 2+2=5....

Reality "Bites"! 14.Apr.2005 06:43

Former Jarhead.

As a former operator who served in central america in the early too mid eighties "we" as a nation have too really wake up quicker than you'd like too know. I served my masters well and paid one helluva price for it, and have been warned about speaking out but I can't stand too see what's happening too "our" nation everyday. I have too agree with several of the comment writers in this article, stop pointing fingers at the puppets and start nailing down the big fish, they hold on too power by a spiders web, it can be broken! There are things coming sooner than later that are going too be devastating, but time for these guys is also running out that's why the thing has really sped up in the last five years. Also watch for the in fighting it will tell alot of who's on who's side and just like a bank job they all agree on they will fight over the take. Saddly most Americans are wrapped up in the day too day b.s. of their lives and half don't even read a paper or watch the "news". 1984 Orwell style is still out of reach for these guys and "we" can keep it there by using there own laws etc against them and re-starting what this country is supposed too be about.

911 was carried out by the Mossad with US high level prozionist help 14.Apr.2005 18:57

researcher

In today's WorldNetDaily Aaron Klein reports that EU is calling Hamas, freedom fighters. Mr Sharon is reacting to this negative attention, and American presure by trying to create a Palestinian state in Gaza, so that the Zionist war on terrorism," war on Israelis neighbors, will continue, not withdraw, as there are so many rumors The US wants to pull out troops from Iraq. He's trying to buy time to get a US draft going, so the US will effectively help fight Iran. Israel's had no reservations in sacrificing its own citizens in the past, the Israelies who dressed as Arabs not only killed British rulers, but also Israeli citizens. Israel also killed American allies in their attack on the U.S. Liberty, and drew America into attacking Libyia in the Lavon affair. Sharon thinks he can buy off the settlers with compensation, just as Israel bought off the survivors of the Liberty massacre. Congress never fully investigated the murders. Given the fact that "terrorist" was coined by the British press to refer to the Israelies who dressed up as Arabs and bombed the King David hotel, and given the long history of Mossad and Zionists even turning against their own allies (US Liberty) for the sake of the Israeli State I can understand Hamas saying they're freedom fighters, and that Israeli carried out 911. After researching the evidence I agree with them. Two books http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/Pastore_Investigation_of_%209-11/chapter_2--dancing_Israelis.htm pieces the puzzle together, by showing how there were active Mossad agents in this country then and many false flag operations. Other indicators: Attas' passport was stolen and found blocks away from the Towers, the extremely impossible behavior of the "doubles in Florida, and Las Vegas, the demolition of building 7 by its owner Silverstein, the warnings to Odgio and only three deaths of Israelis in the disaster, one of which David Levin , a member of Israel's top commando team, as a cover to throw suspicion away from Israel, shot with a gun brought through Logan airport owned by Israeli buisnessmen. The Pentagon was hit (probably a missle, see for yourself, the photographs in this book and on other 911 sites, to cover Pentagon involvement, by no stand down action, the fact FEMA was in NY the night before, the put options showing somebody knew in Israel. This other site, http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/AntichristConspiracyHTML.htm explains how infiltrated the government is with pro Zionist leaders. These 200 Israeli Mossad agents( some found in the Mexican Parliament with explosives, some found with videos of the Sears Tower, some found with plans of nuclear reactors, some found casing out Defense buildings posing as art students, were all deported with the help of Michael Chertoff, an American with dual citzenship, born to Israeli parents. 7 of the so called highjackers from Saudi Arabia are alive. Someone else was doing this, someone who knew about remote control and these planes were guided to their targets. Then the trade center was demolished with controlled demolitions and the evidence carted off pdq to do away with the evidence, by another Israeli company. Other cases lead support, the imprisonment of Lt. Veerland, the Navy Lt. who wrote down most of the attack sites three weeks before it happened, stating he didn't think Bin Laden was responsible, but "our brothers in faith." He noted, the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Sears Tower?, Malaysia, Haidar, Brown recluse, Ottwa Parliament among others. Given the sex scandal of child abuse in Wahington, many Congressmen and many higher ups in the administration, might have traded their votes and loyalties out of fear of blackmail. This even included the former President Bush. And how do you explain their perversion to visit Bohemian Grove and go through rituals like "The cremation of care" where dressed in robes these jet setters burn a body? What about Trance Formation in America? All fiction? All this was very convenient for Plans already under way to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. By duping Americans into fighting Moslems the Washington heads now have a green light to achieve Full Spectrum Dominance = World Control. Zionists and Jesuits have entered into a plan to make Jerusalem the city of the earthly ruler, and Zionists may yet even double cross American interests by creating another financial depression (playing with the Federal Reserve, private bankers pay for printing money and then loan it back to the Federal government at interest, increasing the national debt, and other governments. They could demand the Lands promised as collateral that Nixon signed) or by carry out more attacks to get American Jews to move back to Israel, and Presidental declaration of martial law. They've placed the expansion of the State of Israel higher that the religion they profess. History shows the Mossad will kill innocent people, even their own. The recent Tsunami may have prematurely started with a nuclear device, thereby getting rid of millions of their enemies, even Veerland's note mentions Malaysia. He's now locked up in solitary confinement for child prostitution charges in Colorado and his interview notes says, he knows some people who knew George Bush personally. Knowing Ariel Sharon blocked the escape of thousands in a massacre for Israel's interest, it's not impossible he'd ok the Mossad to act by deception to draw America in to fight Israel's greatest enemies( as it did in WW1. and WW2) We're now being told by him something has to be done about Iran. Latest I've read, a business man, Sarfraz Haidar was killed for selling 6 Russian KH-55 cruise missiles to Iran. These missles are said to have a nuclear 200 megaton warhead and can travel 3000 miles.

Logical Reasoning for 9-11 19.Apr.2005 08:04

Not so cynical

I have for quite a while been resistant to theories about 9 - 11 to have been the equivalent of the Reigstag fire, Tonkin Gulf, Pearl Harbor and the sinking of the Lusitania to give the cabal a reason to start a war. But one has to consider the facts. One fact is that Israel is a country of a few million in a land of hundreds of millions of hostile Muslims (hostile to them). The reason that Israel has survived is due to its unequaled intelligence capabilities which surpass even the US in the middle east. HTey know virtually everything about everyone. The Mossad has a major advantage which is native Arabic dialectic speaking Sephatic jews, originating from the surrounding Arab countries, including Iraq, many who are placed undercover amongst the militant groups. They even have hundreds, if not thousands of agents working in the US, like the gay Israeli who blackmailed Governor McAuliff of New Jersey into making him the state Homeland Security Director. Via billions in US subsidy and coersion they are able to pay their many Arab informants as well. My point being that it is virtually an impossibility that the Mossad did not know that 9-11 was going to happen, and very likely they may have assisted, most likely with help within the US government. For those who doubt the insidious capabilities of Israel, you should google the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair and some of the shenanigans they tried to pull off in Mexico and South America.