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Where is the protest against fluoride in our drinking water????

we need an immediate response against this insanity?
when and where?
protests are not the universal answer 23.Mar.2005 14:10

citizen

Call the state senators and the governor and let them know you object. That's what I did.

Instead of calling senators... 23.Mar.2005 14:18

some kid

you might want to go to their office, speak with them, use their bathroom, and tag or wheatpaste info about flouridization. Just an idea.

it is not the only answer, but 23.Mar.2005 14:21

sldf

it let's people outside of the senators' office know that people are upset.

a start...more later 23.Mar.2005 14:26

bull of the woods

i just emailed every darn one of them....a good start.

Don't become a pod person 23.Mar.2005 14:28

jen

If you wait much longer it will be too late.

It is .... 23.Mar.2005 14:39

ranger

...forced medication and the source may contain hazardous by products.

Community Television Program On the Fluoride Issue 23.Mar.2005 15:25

Jim Lockhart eagleye@PhilosopherSeed.org

The Portland Public Access program, "A Growing Concern," for Friday, March 25, 2005, will feature an interview with Lynn Campbell, executive director of Oregon Citizens for Safe Drinking Water This program is live from 7-8, on channel 11.

Lynn will be speaking about the recent move in the Oregon legislature to mandate the addition of fluoride to the drinking water of all cities with a population of over 10,000 people. As has already been reported to Indymedia, this bill has just passed the House and is beginning to move on to the Senate.
For information about the fluoride issue:
Fluoridation Debate Gathering Momentum In Oregon

Fluoride Action Network

Lynn will also discuss the many problems with adding fluoride to the water, and we will be taking phone calls at about 20 minutes to 8:00.

This program repeats Sunday evening at 10:00 on channel 23, and again on Thursday evening at 10:00 0n channel 22.


Im for Fluoridation 23.Mar.2005 16:36

Bubb

Fluyoride in water actually does greatly reduce dental cavities. Thats how it was discovered. Some small midwest town had alsmost zero cavities so they found out their water had fluoride in it. Due to a vey bad modern diet that man is not adapted to of alot of refined grains especially, we have way too many cavities and not enough health care. Decaying teeth cause alot of pain and suffering. Decaying teeth cause alot of other hrealth problems such as artheriosclerosis even.

once again 23.Mar.2005 17:01

researcher

There is no conclusive evidence linking fluoridation of water with the decline in tooth decay. There has been a decline in tooth decay observed over the past several decades among all western countries, regardless of whether that country chose to fluoridate its water. Among countries that have mixed areas, such as the United States or New Zealand, it has often been found that tooth decay is less prevalent is non-fluoridated areas once other factors (such as socio-economic status and access to dental care) were taken into account. Government propaganda that suggests that the research is conclusive should be summarily dismissed. Now the truth may be that fluoride in extremely controlled amounts (which one is not likely to get out of one's faucet) may help prevent tooth decay, or it may not, there is certainly some research supporting both cases. But I think, as others have noted, there is a huge question as to whether this is truly a public health issue, to be decided by the state, or a personal health issue, to be decided by the individual. If it is to be decided by the state, than one might want the evidence to be fairly conclusive. Given that many western European nations have rejected fluoridation due to the lack of evidence in support of it's alleged benefits the United States citizens may wish to examine what research they feel leads them to be more convinced of the short-term and long-term safety of altering their water supply.

World Health Organization - Tooth Decay Trends
World Health Organization - Tooth Decay Trends

F is for Fluoride 23.Mar.2005 19:51

Dude

F is for Fluoride





1. Most of the time when I drink water I swallow: Thus the amount of fluoride that hits those teeth is minimal.


2. Fluoridated tooth paste is about 1000ppm in fluoride, so if you brush-that fluoride will be at those choppers with a much better contact time.


3. Do that math. a couple of moments at low ppm concentration or a few minutes at a thousand times that. Clearly water fluoridation is a way to get rid of waste fluoride from industry down the city sewers and brushing is best for teeth.


4. Just get the kids some god damn dental coverage and tooth past.

ps dont forget the floss

how much is this going to cost? 23.Mar.2005 21:35

local

it makes me think: could we use the money that this is going to cost and use it for dental hygene programs.

How the Fluoridation Mess REALLY started 25.Mar.2005 04:13

NYSCOF

At the turn of the last century, many residents of the Southwest US had unusually ugly teeth. They called it "Colorado Brown Stain." Dental researchers sought to discover the source of this disfiguring tooth malformation. The culprit was high levels of fluoride in the water. We've been told for years that these ugly teeth resisted decay but a recently discovered book (April 2004) via the internet gives conflicting details.

Only 28.5% of 12- to 14-year-olds were cavity-free in Colorado Springs, Colorado, with 2.6 ppm naturally fluoridated water, 75% had fluorosis, according to a 1948 study ("Fluorine in Drinking Water Its Effect on Dental Caries," by Francis A. Arnold).

Also, Hereford, Texas, was touted as the "town without a toothache" because high levels of natural water fluoride discolored the townfolk's teeth but, we were told, they didn't have any or few cavities. However, 12 to 14-year-olds living in Hereford, Texas, where the water was naturally fluoridated at 3.1 ppm, 100% had dental fluorosis; but only 38% were caries free.

The towns listed with fluoride levels advocated into today's water supplies had even more dismal cavity rates.

These statistics are not impressive as your've been told.

But maybe they were better than other cities without fluoride, calcium, dentists, rich people and/or sound nutrition.

That didn't stop well-meaning but misguided dentists (who probably didn't investigate the studies as they still don't do today)to assume the fluoride also caused the discolored teeth allegedly to resist decay. However, what they overlooked is significant. The water supply was also very high in calcium and magnesium, essential nutrients we now know makes teeth strong.

Also the population studied in Colorado Springs was healthy and wealthy, which drew dentists from the East striving to make their own fortune. At the same time, poor residents of Appalachia in the East were losing teeth to decay without any dentist around to treat them.

In another highly unbelievable move, the dentists convinced public health people to experiment with this new fluoride "discovery." They hypothesized that, if natural fluoride (calcium fluoride) in drinking water makes teeth resist decay, let's totally ingnore calcium (and the gereral health of people with great teeth), and see if adding artificial fluoride to a town's water makes any difference.

So they used all the people in a few cities like Grand Rapids, Michigan, and Newburgh, New York, as their guinea pigs. In Newburgh, they added sodium fluoride into the water supply in 1945 and left Kingston unfluoridated to act as the control.

Of course researchers declared fluoridation a success after only five years, even though the teeth of the children born into the experiment had not even erupted yet. They said fluoride was safe because they examined school children who weren't sick two weeks before the examination date - virtually eliminating the very children who may have been made ill by the fluoride. Adults were never examined for ill effects.

Ten years later, the State University of New York found that children in fluoridated Newburgh had more cortical bone defects and higher rates of hemoglob anemia. Kingston never fluoridated. Recent studies show tooth decay and dental fluorosis is higher in fluoridated Newburgh.

And what's even more perverse is that the chemical used to fluoridate your drinking water is an industrial waste product that, along with fluoride, carries lead, arsenic, and other contaminants to a faucet near you.

The silicofluorides have never been safety tested in animals or humans. With the American children as guinea pigs, researchers find that silicofluorides increase children's lead absorption and higher blood lead levels are linked to more tooth decay. And the U.S. National Toxicology Program is just beginning to study silicofluorides for human ingestion some 50 plus years after it's been dumped into most Americans drinking water.


Fluoridation has provided a lucrative sector for researchers to apply for federal grants to study the after effects of the crazy decision to put fluoride into humans' water supply and then see what happens. New studies link fluoride to bone fractures, lowered IQ, thyroid disfunction and more.

US children are overdosed with fluoride whether rich or poor, healthy or malnourished from various sources. You would think dentists would heed the advice reported in their dental journals - to cut back on fluoride use. But instead dentists are lobbying legislators all over the US to fluoridate more water supplies - even when the people have voted against it. But educated individuals are fighting back. In the past two elections, fluoridation failed miserably in the polls.

Meanwhile, the American Dental Association reported to the press on June 16, 2000 that they have a new cavity fighting tool - calcium.

Oh yeah, despite being heavily artificially fluoridated, the elderly in Appalachia lead the U.S. in tooth loss in 2002 while Colorado still enjoys one of the lowest rates.


water fluoridation is bunk, a testament to a society gone bad 12.Apr.2005 19:56

Andy abernahi@yahoo.com

Fluoridation is forced medication and contrary to everything Americans hold dear. What right does a community have to force people to ingest a chemical for their health. Whether it works for some is another issue, the bottom line is a persons right to decide whether he or she, or his children, want to ingest a chemical which has no relation to water safety. Courts have skirted this issue by ruling that people have the choice to drink or not drink the water. What crap. Even foods and sodas are prepared with fluoridated water. There is no escape. Skin aborption is another source, though unstudied.

I've been working on this issue for ten years now, writing letters, emails, etc. The fluoridation industry is winning this war. The source of fluoride is industrial waste from the fertilizer industry. A waste which would be very expensive to dispose of is turned into a product which is sold to us and added to the water. The government can feel like they are doing something for the poor who have little or no access to dental care. The whole thing stinks.

Writing letters is futile. The only way to stop this is a massive drive to put a proposition on the ballot to stop the insanity of fluoridation. Many communities have been successful, including Santa Cruz, CA, Vancouver, BC, and a few others.

WArning: If you are feeding your infant formula, do not use tap water to prepare it. Avoid fluoridated toothpaste for small children who may eat it. When you go to the dentist, do not, do not allow them to give you or your children the fluoride rinse. Children have died from swallow this stuff. Most filters do not remove fluoride. Only Reverse Osmosis or distillation will remove the fluoride. Many health food stores have reverse osmosis units and sell water for around 40 cents a gallon.