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M19 *Intense* Peace PHOTOGRAPHY

The following pictures are by Matthew Graybeal from the 3/19/05 Two Year Iraq Occupation Demonstration in Portland, Oregon. To see the entirity of the pictures please visit my website as listed below. May we all experience peace within this lifetime...
 http://homepage.mac.com/manicthunder/Event/Menu152.html

homepage: homepage: http://www.ManicThunder.com


*Demonstration* for *Peace* 20.Mar.2005 03:09

Matthew Graybeal

First, my title for this article should have read "M19 *Intense* Demonstration PHOTOGRAPHY." I was looking at the picture of the toddler with the peace sign right before I posted. Many of these pictures are obviously not peaceful by any means but they show, in their own methodology, that we are all fighting for a greater, [hopefully] peaceful cause.

I encourage everyone who is disturbed by any of our fellow Portlander's actions for the anti-war demonstration to voice their concerns. Discourse leads to action. If you are upset by flag burning then proclaim it! If you are upset by the injustice done to our soldiers proclaim it! If you are angry at our government or even supportive of their actions proclaim it! For every hundred peaceful demonstrators there are a few "fringe" people who express themselves in their own way and for that I support them [even if I happen to disagree with some of their methods]. We need to find an answer to peace... where do we start? Instead of attacking those who actively participate or don't participate in demonstrations how can we make everything positive and show the *world* that America *is* a decent place? Let's start by asking ourselves, "Is America a decent place?" I know that in many countries, if a symbolic flag would have been burned in public, the perpetrators would be shot on spot. Here, we shoot with our cameras. We must work together to find an answer that allows for world peace (an enormous task I know). What can be done? We must focus our energy, anger, and compassion on what can be done in the name of peace!

burning flag in public 20.Mar.2005 07:55

back it up

burning a flag is not a violent action
you claim that in many countries burning a symbolic flag would end it shooting
the u.s. flag is burned the world over
i have never heard of someone being shot for this
and if u were referring to their own nation's flag -
do tell NAME THE COUNTRIES

Shot on Spot 20.Mar.2005 10:35

Matthew Graybeal

A few examples of countries that may have you executed, tortured, or mysteriously removed from the public's eye for burning a national flag or demonstrating against your country are China, North Korea, Iran, Syria, possibly Nepal at this moment in time, and many other countries. In fact, I am sure in a few states in this USA, if you were caught burning a flag, it might not be the police who kill you but some fanatical American crusader...

So again, I ask the question, "What can we do to establish lasting peace beginning in Portland that spreads throughout our difficult, yet beautiful world?"

THIS IS OUR MISSION!

question 20.Mar.2005 11:59

tt01

Matthew,
Is it more patriotic to hold up a flag and burn the Constitution,
or hold up the Constitution and burn the flag?

A national symbol is just a symbol. Burning it is not a violent action. In fact, it is a non-violent action. Shooting the person is indeed a violent action however.

And how very interesting that the countries you name have the most repressive govenrments on the planet. So, we dont live in those places because people were not shot for burning the flag. This is your point, no? and for this freedom I am enternally thankful. I do not support the burning of american flags. But I will gladly support someone's right to do it in public. And believe me, there are plenty of folk like you mention that attack people, violently, for burning a flag. And THEY are the disgrace to this country because they do not understand the pricciples that make it strong, even if they have gone and killed people for it.

The action of burning an American flag is a justified response to the repressive, dictatorial and colonial aspirations of the Bush regime. Deal with it.

And keep taking pictures.

i hope 20.Mar.2005 12:30

...

I hope y'all are gardening and shit in your free time!

Anarchy isn't just waving the red and black- that is certainly part of it, but not the whole deal by any means.

responses :) 20.Mar.2005 13:53

Matthew Graybeal

The following are responses to a few questions posed by tt01:

"Is it more patriotic to hold up a flag and burn the Constitution,
or hold up the Constitution and burn the flag?"

A very intriguing question indeed. I believe holding the Constitution and burning a US flag would be more patriotic. Patriotic, of course, in my liberal sense of what it means to be a patriot (versus the whole God Bless America patriotism that pervades most of our culture).

"A national symbol is just a symbol. Burning it is not a violent action. In fact, it is a non-violent action. Shooting the person is indeed a violent action however."

Non-violent actions that lead to peaceful solutions are exactly the responses needed to evoke regime change in America.

"The action of burning an American flag is a justified response to the repressive, dictatorial and colonial aspirations of the Bush regime. Deal with it."

I never explicitly stated that I was against any events that occurred yesterday. What I wanted was discourse from all political sides to express their reactions to flag burnings, dancing in the blocks, police presence at a peaceful protest, mock coffins, children holding peace signs, anarchists taking over a protest put on by the Peaceful Response Coalition, etc...

What I am trying to "deal with" is making America a more humane place on all levels. We need compassion to ignite our fires and build our strength so that we may have a peaceful revolution that shows the world America is an ally and a friend to its *own* citizens. I want to know how to do this and that is why I want the discourse amongst all of us!

Thank you for taking your time to ask questions. I encourage more questions, responses, and actions as swiftly as possible! Take care!

Taking over the march 20.Mar.2005 16:30

Rambly joe

I have mixed feelings on what has been stated in these past few comments. You say that "the anarchists took over the march;" well... we were leading the march, but I don't feel that any wrong was done, the pprc bullhorn even chanted more radical chants a few times. I felt a bit more unity in the march then I felt (as an anarchist) from the pprc in a long time; I felt that the angry line of liberals that is usualy rude to us did not exist, because of that there was a nice sence of (for once) unforced unity.

As far as "proclaiming" that you are upset with our flag burning is concerned, I would encourage that you come and talk to us about it;peaceful social discourse is not the disease some people make it out to be. And as far as encouraging people to leave the protest if they are upset with the flag burning is concerned; I know people that left your march because they were deeply offended by your blatent calls for people to put money in your KFC buckets, as if you could get more people to come to your march based entirely on how much money you could raise.

If you need money to get "activists" in the street what good are they anyway?

But I digress, My main point was that I am sad and dissapointed with the obvious lack of unity... I feel that the anarchist/revolutionary movement is the only true peace movement in the united states so everyone claiming to be peaceful should be nicer to us....

I am done now

I really don't want to shit list you

really

I thank you all... 20.Mar.2005 18:27

Melee melee@resist.ca

...for your support at the demonstration and your continued support here. And I even thank those of you who may disagree for having the tact and recognition to realise that others share views different from your own- that do not necessarily make them bad people.

Many have voiced thier disapproval in much less distinguished ways i.e., here:

 http://www.livejournal.com/community/damnportlanders/4491446.html

It saddens me that there are still peopel who, though we're not in grammar school anymore, still feel the need to become childish and make fun of those with different opinions- or perhaps, different ways of expressing the same opinion. Hmmm...

GOD FORBID somemone make a statement someone disagrees with at a protest.

Hey, wait a minute...

Isn't that what these things are all about?

re: Taking over the march 20.Mar.2005 18:28

Matthew Graybeal

The following are responses to three questions posed by Rambly joe:

1. "You say that 'the anarchists took over the march;' well... we were leading the march, but I don't feel that any wrong was done."

I whole heartedly agree with you. I realize you did not take over the march but instead took to the front lines. My statement was made for others to chime in on how they felt, if they were angered that the PPRC did not lead the demonstration. While I was photographing the event I heard much chatter and there seemed to be anger coming from the PPRC that they were no longer controlling the event. I want all activists to comment so that future demonstrations can be even *more* successful. Unity is key when profound change must occur immediately and collectively.

My protesting is through the eye of my camera. I want all to see the power of protest! Power was shown yesterday! Just imagine if all activists against war, unfair politics, corporate dominance, greed, hate, etc... banded together in a massive protest to unite against what America is NOT. This is what we must do as a united group, therefore I encourage feedback from all participants and observers.

2. "As far as 'proclaiming' that you are upset with our flag burning is concerned, I would encourage that you come and talk to us about it;peaceful social discourse is not the disease some people make it out to be."

I never proclaimed that I was upset with flag burning. I invited people to express their opinions on how the flag burning made them feel and if it was an effective means of demonstrating. Just as you said I will now reaffirm, "peaceful social discourse is not the disease some people make it out to be." So true! I want nothing more than discourse here. That is all I have been trying to stimulate!

3. "I know people that left your march because they were deeply offended by your blatant calls for people to put money in your KFC buckets, as if you could get more people to come to your march based entirely on how much money you could raise."

I am unsure how I should respond to this question. You say "my march" and all I had to do with the demonstration was photograph it for Indy Media. I think you are referring to PPRC's asking for monetary donations to help support the peace process. I have no affiliation with the PPRC and thus had no connection to the KFC buckets. I did put $1 in a bucket though as I thought it might somehow help peace in the long run... 8-)

No Prob 20.Mar.2005 19:21

Den Mark, Vancouver

I myself had no problem with the flag-burning, but what the hell was the stuff used to ignite it! I took a few breaths of the smoke & was sickened for hours afterward.

Isn't there any natural organic flag-burning product around? ("Try new lemon-fresh Flag-B-Gone!")

Sheesh! If it's not cops gassin' me, it's BlackBloc.

But, ..... i liked your being in front. I liked it, a lot!

Flag Burning doesn't bother me so much anymore 20.Mar.2005 23:58

Alex

Well, it was probably a cotton/poly blend. Polyester's gonna stink when you burn it.

The flag burning bit used to really bother me. I love my country. But I strangly wasn't too upset on Saturday.

After what's happened with the country, .. the election in November, after Bush and crowd
has had 4 years to remove all doubt on just how bad they are.. well.. I just don't have
a whole lot of pride left in our country. I am proud that we've got freedom of speech and assembly. Let's keep using it, so we don't lose it.

The burning synthetic flag stank. But the flag's been pretty stinky on its own for awhile.


This Terry Schiavo thing is just beyond the pale. Good to know Bush is dedicated enough to
(gasp) fly back from VACATION. to sign in this completely unconstitutional crap. Talk about a distraction. If the Republicans were truly pro-life, they wouldn't start pointless wars.


Peace

Alex

I used to collect 911 flags 21.Mar.2005 02:12

Hi

and burn them. You know the flags that SUV morons were sporting after 911.

I burn the flag because, I hate my country. I think it sucks holy shit and I have a dream that one day I'll live outside it's borders (but still right where I am).

One More Response... 8-) 21.Mar.2005 17:10

Matthew Graybeal

I was emailed this statement and felt a strong need to reply publicly...

"Someday Portlanders will find a real reason to protest.. until then I will wait."


YOU have already waited *too* long! There are a million things one might protest against. What angers you? What compels you to make change for the better in this world? Every day we make an act of protest or support with our hard earned dollar. What did you buy last? Have you eaten recently? Did your money go towards the support of a company that destroys the environment or did you buy from a local, organic farmer? Every day we protest with our pocketbooks. Please take a careful look at every action you make and a spontaneous realization may occur: WE are ALWAYS protesting!

Flag Burning Tips 21.Mar.2005 18:29

Burning US flags for fun

US flags are actually fire resistant. It's hard to light them on fire and they tend to give off nasty fumes they start smoldering. They can be soaked in gas or butane for faster starts.

So many ways to protest 21.Mar.2005 19:22

i

"Please take a careful look at every action you make and a spontaneous realization may occur: WE are ALWAYS protesting!"

YES! even if you're not taking it to the streets you can still protest a thousand times a day. How you spend (or don't spend) you money, what businesses you support, what clothing you wear, what vehicle you ride/drive, what you consume and put into your body, the way you wear your hair, what you tell people when you talk to them, how you tell people when you talk to them... These are all ways of protesting.

Educating other people is a big and important way to protest. Not only are you stickin' it to the system by putting that information out there, you are also sparking the interest of someone else to start protesting in every way they can.

Educating yourself is also important. Read a book, read news (indy news of course, but even looking at corporate news is a good way to teach yourself to think critically and not swallow the shit they give us), talk and discuss with people of all ages, ask questions about people's experience's, observe things and beings around you, LISTEN, pay attention to body language, think things over in your head, reflect. Everyone is an educator and a student. Value the knowledge of others and be open to new ideas.

Also, eat from a garden and ride a bike.

A demonstration is only one way of millions to protest.

Dont let them keep you down 21.Mar.2005 19:27

fight back

You may hate this country, but why leave it? That is exactly what the ruling class wants.
I am a foreigner and like many came to this country for one reason or another not because it's some kind of bastion of freedom. I've often heard it said, 'America, love it or leave it.' I say 'LOVE IT OR CHANGE IT.
It is up to the people in this country to fight within the belly of the beast. We have to fight imperialism, racism, homophobia and all the other things that keep the working class down.
You may end up disappointed in another country if you think there is not the same kind of oppressions as here. Changing the world starts here my fellow citizen.
Don't let them keep you down. They stay in power by dividing us and telling us we cannot run society for the sake of humanity.
Prove them wrong! The struggle is long, but without struggle there is no progress.

Burn The Flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK KFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22.Mar.2005 10:51

Mrs. Robinson

I am all for burning the flag, especially now!!!!! I was so happy to see the Anarchists leading the march this time. If PPRC or whatever organizations that organized the rally on M19 or the other anti-war rally's in the past, wants to pay the city to have police "WATCH" us and use their chemical weapons on us at their march then that is their choice. I also understand that we might not have a march in the streets without a permit because we do not have enough people who are willing to take the streets without a permit. BUT TO TRY AND COLLECT MONEY FROM PEOPLE IN KFC BUCKETS IS ABSURD!!!! and I was HORRIFIED to see people wearing animal fur at the protest. Why can't people who want the war and suffering to end on humyns think outside the box and realize how fucked up it is to bring down one cause for another. FUCK KFC FOR KILLING NOT ONLY HUMYNS WITH OBESITY BUT FOR KILLING AND TORTURING MILLIONS OF ANIMALS. and THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS ASSHOLES FOR WEARING THE FUR OF AN ANIMAL THAT HAS BEEN ANAL ELECTROCUTED!!!!!!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a few keepers 04.Apr.2005 07:20

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tepid pictures from a tepid march. at least the image of the guy flipping off the corporate media camera may be useful.

peaceffft.
FUCK THE CORPORATE MEDIA
FUCK THE CORPORATE MEDIA
Papergrrl
Papergrrl
Phew! We're safe from the terror of dropped orange peels. PPD busts litterbug.
Phew! We're safe from the terror of dropped orange peels. PPD busts litterbug.