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Moveon has MOVED ON from Withdrawal from Iraq

MoveOn.org Executive Director Eli Pariser told liberal-leaning media critic Norman Solomon recently that the group "is seeing a broad difference of opinion among our members on how quickly the U.S. should get out of Iraq. As a grassroots-directed organization, we won't be taking any opinion which a large portion of our members disagree with."
Pretty sad when a US Rep can, but Moveon cannot call for withdrawal from Iraq. Moveon is worse than CONGRESSPEOPLE! If they Dems are just Yugos, then Moveon must be a Land Rover . . .

Get this part:
"They fear if they sign on (to her resolution) that they'll be branded as being against the troops."

That's because over 1 million members is just NOT ENOUGH for Moveon! The important thing is to get the *most* members, not what the actual message is (controlled by US media . . .), or how many are dead in the end. If the majority of Moveon members called for more executions in the US, would the leaders of the org intervene? Apparently not. That would jeopardize their funding.


Suburbs a world away from war
Clayton minister says violence in Iraq fails to stir passions
Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, March 18, 2005

excerpt:
It's clear there isn't a lot of support in Washington for the peace movement's major goal, a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. A resolution demanding an end to the occupation introduced in January by Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Petaluma, still has only 28 co-sponsors -- none of them Republicans.

Even MoveOn.org, the Berkeley-birthed online hub that fueled anti-Bush sentiment before the invasion and now boasts 3 million members, has moved on. Critics on the left complain that it is spending too much energy on such issues as Social Security reform and Bush's judicial appointments, and not enough on opposing the occupation.

MoveOn.org Executive Director Eli Pariser told liberal-leaning media critic Norman Solomon recently that the group "is seeing a broad difference of opinion among our members on how quickly the U.S. should get out of Iraq. As a grassroots-directed organization, we won't be taking any opinion which a large portion of our members disagree with."

Solomon wrote that "when a large progressive organization takes the easy way and makes peace with war, the abdication of responsibility creates a vacuum."

Woolsey said, "It would be great if MoveOn.org would start that discussion (about ending the occupation)," because its support could influence her congressional colleagues. "They fear if they sign on (to her resolution) that they'll be branded as being against the troops.
 http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/18/MNGSSBRF7N1.DTL

 http://www.moveon.org/front/


Here's how moveon 'Supports the Troops' :

 http://www.heromiles.org/

Existing law in 2003 required soldiers to pay for their own flights home from these three airports. The Hero Miles program was started to provide free round trip tickets donated by the American public to the almost 500 soldiers arriving each day from Iraq on R & R Leave last fall. This public response helped persuade Congress to change the law and beginning January 1, 2004, the Pentagon now pays for these domestic flights for the soldiers.


Note:
Operation Hero Miles was signed into law by President Bush on October 28, 2004 as part of the 2005 Defense Appropriations Bill.



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Well, that's good, I was looking for a solid reason to send the wimps to hell 18.Mar.2005 19:35

arm

For far too long I have not even opened their emails. It just smells too much like the regular democratic sewer and I feel violated for not having sent them to hell before now. Chalk one more up to slimy wimpy valueless spineless american children wtih no identity thats not authorized by tv.

why are we fighting each other instead of the common enemy? 18.Mar.2005 21:32

moveon volunteer

>>Critics on the left complain that it is spending too much energy on such issues as Social Security reform and Bush's judicial appointments

These are two of the most critical issues facing working people concerned about their economic survival, and minorities and environmentalists concerned about their civil rights and land use laws.

as you know, moveOn put everything they had into trying to stop the war before it started. I and many other moveOn volunteers will be at the march tomorrow. However, moveOn has to focus its energies on a couple key issues if it expects to have any impact.

You can argue about the choices they made (that were based on survey of their membership), but the right wing corporate slave lunatics Bush wants to appoint to the courts for life and the phase out of Social Security are central to the hopes of minorities, environmentalists and workers. I wonder where someone's head is at that wants to send a moveOn to hell for deciding to focus on these critical fights.

*** We're fighting against the crazed greedy bastards that are running American on so many fronts, why do we have to also fight amongst ourselves? ***

moveOn is co-opted apologists 19.Mar.2005 10:57

moving on from move on

I have been demanding to be removed from their liberal pap email list ever since they laid down and died after the "election" in November. With a MILLION fucking members, with the ear of so many people, they so let me down I can't even tell you. Their first communique, like that of Michael Moore, was a hand-wringing "oh well" speech about how sad it was that so many red staters ended up winning. They supported the war candidate Kerry, and then failed to call the fraud what it was. As far as I'm concerned, this is strike 3. They're still sending their shit, but I do not open it. In the end, they are worse than useless -- they co-opt all the legitimate rage felt by the American people over the worst, most corrupt and treasonous take-over this nation has ever known, and they channel it into "oh well, we tried, but the voters have spoken." No, they have NOT spoken. They never got the fucking chance. The election was STOLEN. The nation was STOLEN. And MOVEON LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT without so much as a WHIMPER. SHAME on moveon. People are dying all over the world because they failed to help ignite the spark.

Those of you who are still moveon volunteers, this is not directed at you. It is only directed at a failed organization awash in it's own poop. It's noble that you want to do something. Now recognize that moveon is not it, and move on. Do something really meaningful. Take that spirit, that strength and energy, and USE IT.

MoveOn.org: Making Peace With the War in Iraq 20.Mar.2005 08:50

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 http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0310-35.htm
MoveOn.org: Making Peace With the War in Iraq
by Norman Solomon

Sadly, it has come to this. Two years after the invasion of Iraq, the online powerhouse MoveOn.org -- which built most of its member base with a strong antiwar message -- is not pushing for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

With a network of more than 3 million "online activists," the MoveOn leadership has decided against opposing the American occupation of Iraq. During the recent bloody months, none of MoveOn's action alerts have addressed what Americans can do to help get the U.S. military out of that country. Likewise, the MoveOn.org website has continued to bypass the issue -- even after Rep. Lynn Woolsey and two dozen cosponsors in the House of Representatives introduced a resolution in late January calling for swift removal of all U.S. troops from Iraq