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Democratic Senators Side with Credit Card Companies and Republicans to Screw Us

18 Democratic Senators voted to pass the bankruptcy bill. If you needed evidence that the Democratic Party has abandoned its liberal base, this should do it.
People who opposed the war supported Kerry for President. Well-meaning activists all over the country believe that an important way to change the direction of this country (or at least its government) is by working to change the Democratic Party, and/or support its candidates for elected office.

True, Democrats are occasionally less fascist than their Republican counterparts, but the party as a whole is no place for progressives to put their energy.

Here is more proof (and there's plenty more, this is just the latest):

Last week the US Senate passed a bill making it much harder for people to declare bankruptcy. It doesn't matter if you were the victim of identity theft, are incapacitated by illness, or even if you made the mistake of signing up for the National Guard, and are stuck in Iraq--while your family goes into financial ruin back home (I wonder how many of these Senators have those idiotic "support the Troops" magnets on their SUV's).

This is a very bad bill. It passed 74 to 25, with 18 Democrats sucking up to their corporate donors and voting Yes.

This should help people understand that the Democratic Party is really not unlike the Republicans. Activists should stop wasting their time with them, and work on building a movement that is capable of forcing elected officials from any party to do what's right.

Here's the list of Democrats who voted for this thing (it's too bad Wyden's not on it, this is the kind of thing he might vote for--like the Medicaid bill, and free trade deals)

Max Baucus, Montana.
Evan Bayh, Indiana.
Joe Biden, Delaware.
Jeff Bingaman, New Mexico.
Robert Byrd, West Virginia.
Thomas Carper, Delaware.
Kent Conrad, North Dakota.
Daniel Inouye, Hawaii.
Tim Johnson, South Dakota.
Herb Kohl, Wisconsin.
Mary Landrieu, Louisiana.
Blanche Lincoln, Arkansas
Bill Nelson, Florida.
Ben Nelson, Nebraska.
Mark Pryor, Arkansas.
Harry Reid, Nevada, Senate Minority Leader!
Ken Salazar, Colorado.
Debbie Stabenow, Michigan.
Your right! 14.Mar.2005 18:27


Forget the Democrats. They know that elections are controlled now, and they will do nothing except make it look like they are putting up a fight. FORGET THEM!

We had all better start supporting people who are calling for election overhaul and nothing less than COMPLETE overhaul, or there will be no changing anything that has been going on in government.......EVER!

There aren't many of them, but they are there.

DJ Shadow is so SPE-SHUL ! ! 14.Mar.2005 21:05

Progressive Democrat

What the hell does "it's too bad Wyden's not on it" mean? It TROUBLES you that Wyden is NOT on the list of Democrats who voted to further impoverish the American working class! I can only read the Shadow's remark one way -- "screw the American people." That's what Shadow is saying, isn't it? "If that's what it takes for working people to attain the enlightenment that I (one of the revolutionary elite vanguard!) already have -- well, so be it, screw the the American people."

Why do you NOT mention the plain and simple fact that ALL 25 votes against were by Democrats? What, that didn't fit into your tight-ass ideological world? Oh, it might have confused the ignorant ordinary citizen, it might have been misunderstood by the working people, who cannot think for themselves, without the Shadow's guidance?

Senators who voted against the bill and FOR the working class --


Akaka (D-HI)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)

"Messenger" tells the truth -- but not the whole truth 14.Mar.2005 21:23

Progressive Democrat

Messenger is right in that the 2004 election was stolen by a Republican/corporate voting machine conspiracy.

And Messenger is right in saying -- "We had all better start supporting people who are calling for election overhaul and nothing less than COMPLETE overhaul, or there will be no changing anything that has been going on in government.......EVER!"

It's just that Messenger fails to tell the whole truth, even though that it could have been said by minor changes in just one or two sentences. He says, "Forget the Democrats" even though he knows that Dennis Kucinich is a Democrat and co-chair of the Progressive House Caucus, of which John Conyers and Jesse Jackson, Jr., are members. And Messenger also knows that every one of the thirty or so members of that caucus qualify as "people who are calling for election overhaul and nothing less than COMPLETE overhaul." If Kucinich and Conyers and Jackson aren't such people, then who is?

So, Messenger is saying "Forget Kucinich and Conyers and Jackson!"

Who appointed Messenger to the thought police, telling me and everybody else what to forget, what to remember? I am sick and tired of that kind of arrogant posting and commenting at PDX Indymedia!

Whassup, Messenger, sucking up to the Shadow? We can think for ourselves, Messenger!

Yeah - SCREW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE 15.Mar.2005 01:14

kawak siah

Fuck the Bostons, Cascadia should bail on them and never look back (except to see if they're going to stab us there). We don't need to be part of a country so fat and full of pride. We don't need to be "the best", as they say. There's plenty of countries doing just fine that are much smaller than ours. America doesn't need us and we don't need them. So lets do it. Lets teach our children that thats the way to go.

Forget the party 15.Mar.2005 08:21

George Bender

So Democrat senators voted against this bill 25-18. What does that tell us about the Democratic party? That their leaders can't keep the troops in line. That the party has no coherent ideology. That there is no Democratic party, it's just a collection of convenience of people who don't agree on much of anything. So it makes no sense to support the party as such. If you want to support a particular Democratic politician because you agree with how they vote fine, but forget the party, because it's meaningless. Thinking in party terms just makes you weak.

There has been a proposal at the Oregon state level to abolish parties. Candidates would be listed on the ballot with no party designation. I think that's a good idea. As it stands now, the party labels mislead voters.

Why are people soooo defensive?? 15.Mar.2005 13:21

DJ Shadow

Gee wiz, Progressive Democrat, how about we stick to the issues and not lash out at each other?

Please tell me how the party as a whole (not Pete Defazio or some other Democrat) is so progressive? Why didn't one of the 25 Senators on your honor roll launch a filibuster to stop this assault on working people? And I think that ordinary citizens can think for themselves--and I want them to know that almost half of the Democrats in the Senate voted for this thing. Lots of people keep telling us that the Democrats are the defenders of the working class, or at least that they are better than the alternative, so we better keep voting for them. I am challenging those arguments. I am challenging the thinking of our "leaders", not the intelligence of the working class.

By the way, my point about Wyden was not that I wanted him to vote for this thing so it would pass, I wanted him to vote for it so that we could see once and for all that he is not so progressive. Many of your "progressive" comrades in the party have long realized that Wyden cannot be trusted on lots of issues. There has been very open talk about running someone against him in the primary. This is why I lamented his absence from the list of traitors. I want someone better to run for his seat.

In another post you talked about Kucinich and Jackson--do you seriously think that the party that thrust forward John Kerry, and sent people to sabotage Ralph Nader's attempt to get on the ballot will embrace someone like Kucinich as a national candidate?

The Beast 15.Mar.2005 13:49


As usual, corporate america creates the beast, and when it
gets out of hand, they have to kill it.

i.e. Easy to get credit cards, car deals, etc. Each time you
charge something, they raise your credit limit...

Naturally you spend, spend, spend, until you're over your head.

Then they take your house, garnish your wages, make it nearly
impossible to recover finacially.

Life is sweet in America.

Letter to be sent to all Senators 23.May.2005 10:17

Evie eviewalk@yahoo.com

(This is a letter that I am sending e-mail to all of our US Senators.
I am very caught up with this issue and has to do something about it.)

A Plea to the U.S.SENATE:

The Office of the Comptroller of Currency received over 80,000 complaints
last year about the evil doings of the credit card industry and the unjustified acts of lending, which includes, late fees, universal default of 29%, opt-out, and the list goes on and on.

With the recent passing of the "Bankruptcy Bill" signed by President George W. Bush and the influence of a republican senate, there will be an increase in poverty and indebtedness of families due to high interest rates and predatory lending by these institutions. Families are already living paycheck to paycheck, those making low wages, job loss, ill, divorced or even a victim of identity theft (computer security hacking of data banks), will be hurt even more.

The future continues to look grim for individuals, who cannot pay off these predators quickly and close these accounts. There is clearly a need for "regulation" within the industry. The OCC clearly has not done anything about this, it seems as though their hands are tied.

A bill should be introduced to halt these tricks and traps set by this industry. If you are in favor of bankruptcy reform, then you should also be in favor of credit card industry reform, they both go hand in hand.
This monster should be killed. The banking industry is a big giant,and I am sure there are plenty of consumer interest groups and victims who are complaining.How can you turn a deaf ear to this?

With the bankruptcy law in the favor of banks, what is going to happen to us consumers when these banks can do as they please, knowing that a person becoming a victim cannot manage debts as easily? This monster will become a Frankenstein.
I have personally had my rates increased to 29% for no apparent reason by
Bank One (the worse bank in the nation), I paid on-time and have good credit.
I am a good customer by every standard, why do I deserve this, it is a living nightmare?

This congress must be blamed for a nation of people with increasing debt loads, increasing poverty rates, no investments, no retirements and a host of credit issues, due to satisfying the greed or big business. The gap is indeed widening.
With interest saving rates for banking as low as 4%, why are these predatory lenders charging rates of 29%? and more. It is unacceptable and must be halted now.

Please use your conscience, put yourself in our shoes, you may become one of this industry's victims sooner than you think. The "Bankruptcy law" that you supported (if you supported), may return to haunt you or one of your own family members one day.
Think about it carefully.