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Off-duty Portland Police Officer Rapes Prostitutes

I work at a cafe on lower east Burnside and was told by one of the Prostitutes that comes by every now and then told me that she was picked up by a Portland Police Officer and raped then tossed two dollars and given tips on how to tell weather or not the "john" is a cop or not, and left her out on GermanTown Rd. She and at least two other Prostitutes that have been picked up by said officer are now pressing charges
Approx. two weeks ago I was told by one of the Prostitutes that comes by every now and then told me that she was picked up by a Portland Police Officer and raped then tossed two dollars and given tips on how to tell weather or not the "john" is a cop or not, and left her out on GermanTown Rd. She and at least two other Prostitutes that have been picked up by said officer are now pressing charges, they have DNA evidence. I was told that the city tried to settle out of court for $15,000.00, but the women attacked are going through with a court case and want to see the attacking officer to jail. I was told that these attacks took place in the Saint John's area. I will be posting more as I find out the details.

Zeelog1 out

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Wrong 09.Feb.2005 21:04

slacker

It is irresponsible of you to post an article like this and not fill in any information about the identity of the police officer. If you have enough guts to post this article, then have enough guts to add all the facts and not this crap about.."I 'll provide more information later on." This is tacky and it hurts the integrity of the article. This article and ,you, now lack any credibility because you failed to provide any information of substance, just rumor and speculation. You would have been better suited if you would have waited till you had more accurate information.

looks bad 4 popo 09.Feb.2005 21:15

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better ask port. pb if this is so.

not irresponsible 09.Feb.2005 21:38

regular reader

i disagree with "slacker", above.

the poster of this article makes it clear that what was told to them was second-hand. they are simply passing along what they've heard. they were quite responsible in that they were explicit about stating their source and how the information came to them. it's up to you to decide if it's useful information or not, but that's a separate question than what's "responsible" or not.

I agree with regular reader 09.Feb.2005 22:00

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hmmm 09.Feb.2005 22:18

Charley

I'm kind of ambivalent to the credibility, one hand I would want to condemn it for lack of solid evidence, but it is a second hand story, and wouldn't totally except its validity until the it is confirmed.

It might also be important to point out that disinformation is core to much authoritarian practice, we all recently saw the FBI/PPD/media attempts to pump propaganda about terrorist ready to strike in Oregon... this area. None of that was confirmed.

We'll see how this story pans out, I guess.

Yeah, bad call 09.Feb.2005 23:23

Teddy Ruxpin (The Lousy Typist)

Everybody wants to be first with the scoop, I totally understand that. And in cases like this, the sooner the public is aware of a threat the sooner they can prepare for it, but. . .

If you have enough info to know the specifics you mentioned, then you should be able to provide some info on the case to back it up. If this didn't happen (not saying that is the case), you are doing a disservice to all. If it did happen, you have enough contacts to at least provide a date range, or say when the charges were filed, or which cop it was, or some other such info to "libel test" your story. If you waited two weeks to post this, you could have waited until morning to call the DA's office and get a quote from them (even a "no comment").

This lady that told you she was raped had to tell you something about the cop she is accusing. Is he in the deck of rogues? Is he actually a portland cop, rather than a multnomah deupty or a wannabe security guard? Was he in uniform? Marked car? Tall? Fat? Old? How about the women? Without identifying them, what "kind" of prostitute are they? (in other words, is this cop raping any and all women he thinks are hookers, or does he mostly go after the ones that look addicted? Young? Easily intimidated?). Don't give us so many details that this lady's identity is revealed (at least until charges are verified, then it is known by the cop anyway), but if you are posting this so early to warn people, then warn the women he is targeting by describing the type he is likely to attack.

Please don't take this as total criticism, but if you are going to go far enough to post this, go the extra few inches and get better details. Good job on getting the story though, now you just have to polish it a bit.

Image 09.Feb.2005 23:37

reader

That image should be taken down, I do not believe that is a Portland cop car, nor does that look like Portland in the background. Portland cops drive Ford Crown Victorias, and have yellow "publicly owned" license plates. This car has white license plates with just a car number and I think it is a chevy.

The cops in this photo are unfairly being called rapists.

You could replace the graphic with the portland police badge until you get a photo of the actual cop. Or you could use the back of a Portland rogue card.

See what steroid abuse does to you 10.Feb.2005 08:12

Steroid Dealer

Does anyone remember a few years ago, it was kind of played over, but some women who happened to be prostitutues turned up murdered up in Forest park ? Me and a freind straight away thought that a cop must have been involved.
Now onto the steroid abuse, yet another piece to the puzzle of police brutality. Their all pumped up on steroids and now their freaking out. next the soldiers will come back from Iraq, high on some new speed/upper to replace giving them meth. They'll be the ones getting jobs in the police.
What a wonderful world this is..

Remove Image! 10.Feb.2005 12:38

Rumor

That's an NYPD car, not a PPB car.

perhaps this image would be better? 10.Feb.2005 12:54

reader

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never lie 10.Feb.2005 12:56

tutty & muldoon

Of course a hooker would never spread rumors about a vice cop she has a grudge against. Oh no. never ever. So much for a FAIR TRIAL around here.

thanks reader 10.Feb.2005 13:21

indydrone

I'll switch the image to that one.

never dismiss word of rape 10.Feb.2005 16:30

disgusted

why is the idea of a police officer raping someone working as a sex worker so unbelievable for people? police rape, priests rape, teachers rape, everyone rapes. and you generally aren't going to hear about it through detailed and open accounts. survivors are in a very uncomfortable and risky place to be speaking up, particularly if they are already in a marginalized position because of their job (i.e. sex worker). word of rape spreads through rumor so take it seriously and pay attention.

memories... 10.Feb.2005 17:03

ave

"Does anyone remember a few years ago, it was kind of played over, but some women who happened to be prostitutues turned up murdered up in Forest park ?"

Yeah I remember, but wtf on the "happened to be prostitutes" crap? They were murdered BECAUSE they were prostitutes. In places where prostitution is legal men murder sex workers for the sadistic fucking fun of it and because laws can't make people care about sex working women.

TROLLS 10.Feb.2005 17:21

mb

The drive to divert attention away from police rape, reminds me of the response to the feature about Alton Mcdonald's expierence with washington police that was up last week. "Oh no, a police officer would never profile somone." "They must be lying." -Seemed to follow after every intelligible post. It seems like the same thing's going on here. What can we do about this?

the community should know 10.Feb.2005 17:41

lady of the night hiddenvagenda@yahoo.com

i urged the original poster to put this story up here, because you just know it's going to be hushed up by the police bureau. all the facts may not be available yet, but maybe someone reading this has additional information. to tutty&muldoon - oh, she hooks - so she must be a liar too, right? right?.... no.
though some of us on here may be inclined to not be so sceptical of ppb bad behaivour - 100% accurate or not, this is something that goes on & teh community has a right to know. cos the hookers are part of our community, buddy.

I will be adding more info as it comes along 10.Feb.2005 18:04

zeelog1

I will be adding more info as it comes along

Ugly Mugs 10.Feb.2005 19:06

sex-worker in australia

I think putting up this article is a good idea. Even if he is let off it is better to warn people so they are wary about potentially violent clients. I was also wondering if you have an "ugly mugs" list or equivalent there?

"In places where prostitution is legal men murder sex workers for the sadistic fucking fun of it and because laws can't make people care about sex working women."
- Sex-work is legal in Australia and because of this the industry is much safer.

breach of contract 10.Feb.2005 20:16

AG

The situation discribed by the original poster appears to be a breach of contract and the employment of the defendant in this case would be immaterial. The sex worker negotiated an oral contract and accompanied the client, however after the service was delivered the client made only a partial payment of $2. The claimant must file a small claims action for the amount not tendered, plus interest covering the time the claim is not paid. If the amount exceeds $5000, which would be doubtful for a car date, the claim must be made in superior court. In addition, the claimant would most likely be the sex worker's pimp, who is the receipiant of the funds generated by the sex worker.

not civil court 10.Feb.2005 21:36

runasimi

i don't think that an economic analysis of the situation is especially helpful here... rape is not simply a "breach of contract" whether or not there was a contract for sex to begin with.

i feel like we should not be so quick to jump on the original post-er here, but use the post as a heads-up. that way, if you know more, or once they know more, it can get added here.

hearsay shersay 11.Feb.2005 08:27

minolizard minolizard@msn.com

I see someone already pulled the "why don't we believe her card" as opposed to really addressing why the author of this article has posted something she has no support for even the claim of rape right now. And even if there is validity to the story (ie the women raped are pressing charges) then did the author have permission to make that public? are these women safe on the street knowing INDymedia has put their stuff out there? oh and they were offered $15,000? to hide a rape case?
i can help but wonder if this post isnt a hoax- and if not what sad reporting- might as well tag this read "fair and balanced"

prostitutes & kids raped, abused more in Australia after legalization 11.Feb.2005 09:29

Sam

Sex-work may be legal in Australia, but that hasn't lessened men's sexual violence in Australia. Stripping is legal in Portland but many men feel entitled to sexually abuse, harass, stalk, verbally attack and mistreat strippers regardless.

Like ave said, you can't make cops care about prostitutes by passing a law. Rape is already illegal and that doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent to American men because 1/3 to 1/4 of all American women get raped. What impact will adding, "that means no raping sex workers either" have in stopping cops and other johns from raping?

www.prostitutionresearch.com

Legalisation has not improved the conditions in which prostituted women are sexually exploited, according to Jocelyn Snow of the Prostitutes' Collective of Victoria (The Age, 28 Feb, 1999).

"Legal reforms [in Australia] have not reduced the violence experienced by prostitutes in paid sex work, nor have they reduced the other hazards of the prostitution profession." (Suzanne Hatty, "Violence Against Prostitute Women: Social and Legal Dilemmas", Australian Journal of Social Issues 24, November 1989: 235-48.)

Denise Ritchie, ECPAT NZ (End Child Pornography, Prostitution and Trafficking), reports a disturbing lack of responsiveness to the prostitution cases she reports to the police.

In New South Wales, brothels were decriminalized in 1995. In 1999, the numbers of brothels in Sydney had increased exponentially to 400-500. The vast majority have no license to operate. To end endemic police corruption, control of illegal prostitution was taken out of the hands of the police and placed in the hands of local councils and planning regulators. The council has neither the money nor the personnel to put investigators into brothels to flush out and prosecute illegal operators.

Child prostitution has dramatically risen in Victoria compared to other Australian states where prostitution has not been legalized. Of all the states and territories in Australia, the highest number of reported incidences of child prostitution came from Victoria.

A 1999 United Nations Save the Children report found that the States of Victoria (legalised mid 1980s) and New South Wales (decriminalised 1995) are the two worst States for child prostitution.

"The proliferation of Asian brothels [in Australia] has resulted in a huge supply of imported illegal labour which has resulted in undercutting of prices and unsafe sex practices." ("Brothel boom: the Asian connection", Sydney Morning Herald, 31 August 1999, p1)

Jan Wade, the State Attorney-General of Victoria said in 1999, "Worst of all, the hope that the existence of safe legal brothels would overcome the lure of street prostitution has not been fulfilled."

the tragedy 11.Feb.2005 10:00

sue

When $ex is for sale, isn't rape less tragic? Isn't it more akin to shoplifting from a store than burglary of a house? I understand that the bent of this article was to shame a cop, but this is nothing like the violent rapes of teenage girls. When your body is for sale, sex is theft of a buyable good. Sex no longer is related to love with prostitution, its been reduced to a product. It's common in the lower and middle classes to distrust and dislike cops, I just happen to not be such a big fan of prostitutes either.

Were the prostitutes 'asking for it'? I'm sure they weren't. I just find it degrading to the rape victims whos sexual identities were destroyed by rape. A fate served to prostitutes much earlier in their lives that will continue at this higher rate if prostitution remains illegal.

CALL AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF 11.Feb.2005 10:31

duh

Ok, enough guessing. Office hours are open. Contact the DA. If charges have been filed, they have to tell you, because at that point they are court records.

503-988-3162

www.co.multnomah.or.us/da/index.php

 DA@mcda.us

 DA@co.multnomah.or.us

through who's eyes? 11.Feb.2005 12:53

Sam

"When $ex is for sale, isn't rape less tragic? Isn't it more akin to shoplifting from a store than burglary of a house?

When your body is for sale, sex is theft of a buyable good. Sex no longer is related to love with prostitution, its been reduced to a product."

I think this is what men who exploit and/or rape prostitutes tell themselves. It's not what prostituted women themselves say of their experiences being prostituted or of their experiences of being raped in prostitution.

Recently I read this fabulous essay on sexual consent and rape, and while it doesn't mention prostitution, the idea that women often 'consent' to sex they don't want to avoid having to experience the unwanted sex as a more violent rape comes across well. It also comes across that hoping coerced consent to sex could help women avoid the feeling of violation they fear from a "real rape" isn't a very successful strategy.

Navigating To No!
 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1264/is_12_30/ai_61185321

navigate to no 11.Feb.2005 15:10

sue

"Stand on solid ground and protect your interests; he will do the same."

nice article.

"I think this is what men who exploit and/or rape prostitutes tell themselves. It's not what prostituted women themselves say of their experiences being prostituted or of their experiences of being raped in prostitution. "

Im not rationalizing the rape of prostitutes, merely voicing my opinion about prostitution.

All the women I know who have considered prostitution or even the one active prostitute I knew were never prostituted, they were prostitutes; as in that was their choice, the $$$ earned was theirs. Watching that documentary about pimps tells a different story, but personally ive never seen anyone being 'prostituted'.

Who knows how the cop rationalized the rapes, all I know is that he is a piece of sh*t.

Sam 11.Feb.2005 17:15

Australian Sex-Worker

I think that where your confusion comes from is that when sex-work is illegal less rapes and abuse are reported. If a prostitute goes to the police she or he is not likely to be taken seriously and if sex-work is illegal they are also likely to be charged themselves. So when sex-work is legalised the amount of reported rapes goes up... This does not mean that the amount of rapes goes up. It actually reflects an improvement in the situation - people beginning to feel that clients do not have the right to abuse them and that action can be taken.

Regarding whether it is really rape... Yes. Nobody has the right to do anything to any person that they have not consented to. If you pick up in a bar and the person drives you out to the middle of nowhere and assaults and rapes you - this crime is not lessened by the fact that you might have gone home with them consensually. It is the same for prostitutes. Also, a prostitute provides a specific service to the client. The client does not "rent" or "buy" the prostitutes body (despite what some people may believe or TRY to do) to do what ever they want with any more than a client does with a masseur.

Rather than reading the thoughts of a few individuals (mostly with no exsperience in the industry) regarding the matter you should take a look at the groups that actually represent and work with prostitutes in Australia...

 http://www.swop.org.au/
 http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

I know that legislation will not stop any kind of violence against women but it is an important part of the struggle.

friends 11.Feb.2005 17:24

Mik

I think I'll faint the first time I hear someone say, "I have a few friends who pay for fucks and none of them ever raped, burned, slashed, slapped or choked a ho. Maybe in documentaries and in Thailand but not according to the johns I hang with."

Proposed Changes to the Australian Federal Criminal Code - Trafficking Laws 11.Feb.2005 17:28

posted by Australian Sex worker

Scarlet Alliance Submission to Proposed Changes to the Australian Federal Criminal Code - Trafficking Laws

ABRIDGED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

one The Criminal Code Amendments (Sexual Servitude) 2000, a punitive approach, has not changed the number of people entering Australia to work as migrant labour here, but has created negative impacts on women working under contract, those deceptively recruited, migrant sex workers, Australian sex workers and the general sex industry, resulting in what can only be described as a total failure of the policy to date. Including:

Excessive levels of Immigration (DIMIA) and Police raids; Singling out and targeting of NESB and CALD sex workers; Death in custody; Incorrect detention; Targeting of sex industry businesses that legitimately employ migrant sex workers; Increased criminalisation of the sex industry.

There has been no noticeable decrease in the amount of sex workers who wish to engage in contracts in Australia (Scarlet Alliance estimates the number to have stayed around 400), and we conclude that the punitive regime is not working.

two Scarlet Alliance believes that Amendments outlined in Exposure Draft Criminal Code Amendment (Trafficking in Persons Offences) Bill 2004 will negatively impact on women who are trafficked into Australia on contract and those NESB workers who work legitimately in the Australian sex industry. These amendments will not prevent the practice occurring, but rather will further complicate the conditions of the contracts, placing women at greater risk. Scarlet Alliance does not support these amendments.

three The "Debt Bondage" amendments will affectively make working under contract illegal. This alone will severely affect a person working under contract from accessing assistance or services or disclosing their debt or contract relationship to anyone for fear of detection.

four The definition of exploitation is unclear within this bill, and the dictionary doesn't address this either. The Bill and definition assume consent is irrelevant, and also that sex work as an occupation per se constitutes exploitation. The issue of excessive profiteering goes unmentioned as a basis for the Bill, as does the issue of non-negotiable terms of contract. Scarlet Alliance does not agree with these definitions, and the implied meaning of the word exploitation. The use of the term exploitation must NOT be made synonymous with the occupation of sex work (prostitution) in law.

five Health outcomes are highly compromised by the impact of the implementation of this type of legislation. Extensive and repetitive raids push the workplaces underground, cutting off access for health service providers. Sex Workers are made more vulnerable to HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmissible infections as health educators lose access to the workplaces, reducing the possibility of them receiving information, safe sex equipment and support. When health service delivery is curtailed by workplaces closing or going underground, ALL of the women in those workplaces lose contact with information about options and their rights.

six Rather than adopting a rights based approach to this global issue these amendments constitute a toughening up of the UNSUCESSFUL criminal approach introduced into Australian legislation by the Criminal Code Amendments (Sexual Servitude) 2000.

seven As suggested in our submission addressing both the Criminal Code proposals in 1999 and the Joint Committee on the Australian Crime Commission 2003, we support visa's for migrant workers to enter Australia. If there were legal means to enter the Australian workforce then the requirement for a contract would be greatly reduced.

eight Scarlet Alliance, in accordance with our aim of eradicating injustice and inequality experienced by sex workers, sees this practise of denying sex worker visas as discriminatory and ultimately very dangerous. This policy is directly responsible for the illegal status of hundreds of sex workers in Australia each year, and as a result those workers are denied protection within the decriminalised and legal sex industry. By denying sex workers visas to enter Australia, the Federal Government has created de-facto sex industry law. Even though sex industry law is currently determined by the states and territories, the status of migrant sex workers is in the hands of the Federal Government, and will be further criminalised under the proposed amendments.

nine The Australian Government's discussion paper "Offences Against Humanity, Slavery, Model Criminal Code Officers Committee" 1998, recommendations of which were subsequently made law, indicate clearly that the Government perceived the need for laws covering sexual slavery, "were related to the problem of illegal migrants in the prostitution industry"1. This statement clearly articulates an interest in clearing out illegal migrants NOT in stopping trafficking or reducing the capacity for harm to migrant sex workers, deceptively recruited women or Australian sex workers. Essentially the Australian Government and its agencies have utilized the issue of trafficking to enable excessive targeting of sex industry premises by DIMIA in a unprecedented level of immigration raids. Scarlet Alliance believes this legislation to be a toughening up of laws which focus on enforcement and criminalization without addressing intrinsic issues.

ten The Australian Government rather than seeking to lead the way in a human rights approach to such a complex issue has instead pieced together legislation which simply replicates the failure of other countries who have introduced similar styles of legislation.

eleven The current federal laws aimed at curbing the movement of migrant sex workers into the Australian sex industry are being applied unfairly. There is excessive criminalisation and targeting of individuals from non-English speaking backgrounds within the sex industry. This is discriminatory against sex industry workers and is racist against people from non-English speaking backgrounds.

twelve Scarlet Alliance supports the rights of migrant sex workers to employment in Australia.

thirteen Scarlet Alliance wishes to acknowledge that although we raise many concerns about the lack of a comprehensive vision for migrant workers rights, we understand that the overall intent of the proposed amendment is to prevent all trafficking into forced labour, slavery and servitude. However, we are adamant that this clear purpose is obscured by the inclusion of "sexual servitude" in the definitions of trafficking.

 http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/issues/migrant-workers/traff-laws05/exec-summ04/document_view

Do you have a bad clients list? 11.Feb.2005 17:37

australian sex worker

I agree with Sue about the use of ridiculous terms like "prostituted". There is sexual-slavery out there but it is not the same thing as sex-work. I choose to do sex work as do the majority of prostitutes here. It is nothing like rape at all and to compare the two DOES make rape of prostitutes sound less bad.

Also, I asked before about "Ugly Mugs" lists. They are lists of bad or dangerous clients that are circulated to brothels, agencies and workers. They are compiled by workers sending them in, with a photo or description and an account of what happened or what they are known for. These lists do not need to be proven in any way but are there to warn workers about potentially dangerous clients.

I would think that you probably have something similar there - but if you don't then one should be set up, or if there is one then maybe it needs more publicising and distribution...

dismissed 11.Feb.2005 17:52

judge hatchetjob

This case is dismissed. All the "evidence" presented so far is heresay. Don't you people ever watch NYPD Blue or Law & Order? This is starting to resemble a witch-hunt. Rumors and third-hand accounts do not clinch a prosecution. Seems a lot of locals have the herd instinct when it fits their fear scenario.Just because it's a supposed "oppressed minority", a prostitute, it must be true. Since when are streetwalkers paragons of ethical conduct? If it's the truth she needs to spill the beans to the authorities, not lodge unsupported charges via anonymous internet posting.

sue 11.Feb.2005 17:57

sex worker

"When $ex is for sale, isn't rape less tragic? Isn't it more akin to shoplifting from a store than burglary of a house? I understand that the bent of this article was to shame a cop, but this is nothing like the violent rapes of teenage girls. When your body is for sale, sex is theft of a buyable good. Sex no longer is related to love with prostitution, its been reduced to a product. It's common in the lower and middle classes to distrust and dislike cops, I just happen to not be such a big fan of prostitutes either.

Were the prostitutes 'asking for it'? I'm sure they weren't. I just find it degrading to the rape victims whos sexual identities were destroyed by rape. A fate served to prostitutes much earlier in their lives that will continue at this higher rate if prostitution remains illegal."

This really is utterly offensive crap.

As I said above any non-consensual sex is rape. Your arguments are the equivalent of saying that a woman who has one night stands then being raped is less bad.

Also, I sure as HELL have not lost my sexual identity! I have relationships outside of work. How can you judge that when you know NOTHING about it and have not done it?!
I think I probably have a stronger sexual identity than you because I am not weighed down by MORALISTIC SHIT and therefore am free to love people openly and without hangups.

When I am at work I have a very different kind of relationship which is not the same as having sex with someone I love or am attracted to. The relationship is that of a professional providing a serivice to a client. I care about the client in the same way a councellor or masseur does.

At work I am generally the person in controll. I provide a service. The client is not allowed to do anything to me that I have not allowed them to (and I don't allow anything that is not payed for IN ADVANCE either - this is the case with most prostitutes here).

If a client attacks, abuses or rapes me that is no different than a client attacking, abusing or raping me in any of the other jobs I have had.

"I just find it degrading to the rape victims whos sexual identities were destroyed by rape."

I find your comments extremely degrading (and kind of stuck up too!) to all the prostitutes who have been victims of rape (in their work or outside of it)!

If you don't like prostitutes, lower-middle and working-class people then fucking keep it too yourself!


PS... Forgot to say before but solidarity to all sex-workers over there - especially the victims of police rape. I hope the bastards get what they deserve!

sex worker 11.Feb.2005 19:36

sue

"I think I probably have a stronger sexual identity than you because I am not weighed down by MORALISTIC SHIT and therefore am free to love people openly and without hangups. "

as long as its been "payed for IN ADVANCE" as you say.

Yes, I have morals when I discourage forms of business that have harmful effects. Hence I would like to discourage prostitution. The STD's could be controlled better if prostitution was legal, i'm not saying you shouldn't have a right to sell your body for money, im just questioning how that would effect your self-esteem, world outlook, physical health, etc. Why not seek a form of employment that betters you in some way?

Sue 11.Feb.2005 21:09

ASW

Sorry Sue, I got a bit worked up... I should not have made judgements about your sexuality any more than you should have about other people.

I have relationships outside of work which are probably similar to yours... But AS I SAID BEFORE:

When I am at work I have a very different kind of relationship which is not the same as having sex with someone I love or am attracted to. The relationship is that of a professional providing a serivice to a client. I care about the client in the same way a councellor or masseur does.


"Yes, I have morals when I discourage forms of business that have harmful effects."
On who? Certainly not me, the clients or society.

"The STD's could be controlled better if prostitution was legal"
Prostitutes are experts on safe sex. I get tested regularly and have no STDs what-so-ever.

"im just questioning how that would effect your self-esteem, world outlook, physical health, etc."
My self-esteem is fine. Infact sex-work can actually have a benefitial effect on self-esteem because you realise that your worth is NOT based on what others think of you or (though it may *sound* contradictory to those who have never been involved in sex-work) your appearance. It really depends on the individual and their motivations for doing it. People who are forced into it usually suffer psychological damage, people who CHOOSE to do it often find the situation neutral or an improvement.

"Why not seek a form of employment that betters you in some way?"
I am actually training to be an engineer - not because I don't like sex-work but because I LOVE science. As far as bettering myself... I think that I have learned so much about people and about myself through this work. I have also gained a lot of confidence. I don't think I would have had the nerve to further study before doing this work (I only had a year 10 education when I started).

Hearsay? 13.Feb.2005 10:39

Jebus

I've found it quite disturbing to see so many people in this forum equating the truth or otherwise of these allegations with whether or not charges have been laid and a conviction secured.

Only a minute proportion of rapes and sexual assaults are reported and only a small proportion of those that are lead to convictions. This is for many reasons: the fear and shame often felt by the victims of such abuse, the knowledge that the victim themself would efectively be put on trial and relieve their abuse should they choose to press charges and in many cases the inability and/or unwillingness on the part of authorities to properly investigate the case.

A most compelling for this case not being successfully prosecuted would be the fact that the crime would have to be reported to members of the very same organisation to which the rapist belongs.

Someone above wrote:
"Don't you people ever watch NYPD Blue or Law & Order? This is starting to resemble a witch-hunt. Rumors and third-hand accounts do not clinch a prosecution."

Yes, I have watched those shows and, essentially, considered them propaganda. Who is convicted and who goes free are often not determined by the objective facts, but the vested interests of those involved in prosecuting the case.

Admittedly, rumours and third-hand accounts are not a perfect means of acquiring information but in a world where the "official story" is so often written by those who perpetrate the crimes, they are often all we have.

Well done to zeelogg for posting this story
& solidarity to those women in sex work fighting to make their lives and professions safer.

Jebus

facts exist and are real 14.Feb.2005 10:27

Sam

Australian sex worker, you didn't read what I wrote otherwise you wouldn't have responded as you did.

Child prostitution and rape have gone up dramatically where prostitution has been legalized in Australia. Trafficking has increased and the number of illegal brothels operating has exploded. Debbie Neilson, president of the Queensland Adult Business Association representing the state's licensed brothel operators, put the ratio of illegal operators to licensed premises at 100 to 1. The gonorrhea rate has shot up in Australia since legalization because condoms don't adequately stop gonorrhea's spread.

These are the facts you avoid when suggesting legalized prostitution has benefitted society, and it flies in the face of what very credible people like the following have found:

The United Nations committees on violence against women, trafficking, and children's rights
Prostitute's Collective of Victoria
EPCAT New Zealand
Australian government officials who used to support legalization
international researchers on violence against women

Don't you think many, many studies on the effectiveness of prostitution legalization have been done? If any of the research done were finding less violence instead of more, less child rape instead of more, less gang activity instead of more, less STDs instead of more, less trafficking instead of more...don't you think the results would be spread around the world and heralded as The Solution for the severe violence, psychological and medical danger sex workers currently face? Why wouldn't the wealthy sex business owners and governments seeking tax money announce the happy news and send the studies out on the AP newswire?

They can't boast of prostitution legalization's harm reduction criteria being met because the legalization experiment is failing to protect the people it was supposed to protect. legalization is making matters worse. In the Nevada counties that have legalized brothels, child sexual assault rates and rape rates are the highest in the state.

"They are lists of bad or dangerous clients that are circulated to brothels, agencies and workers.

Why are there lists like this? I have never worked a job that had to circulate a list of potential customers who may assault and/or rape me just because of what I do. Why are there "panic buttons" in some legal Australian brothels but not in almost all other businesses? I've gotten massages and acupuncture before and I have never seen a "panic button" or the need for large, armed guard the door.

"If a client attacks, abuses or rapes me that is no different than a client attacking, abusing or raping me in any of the other jobs I have had."

You poor thing. The tough girl talk you play won't stop me from lamenting your defeated acceptance of rape, attacks and and abuse as just what you and all other women have to put up to pay the rent. Like most people, I have never been raped or physically attacked at a job by a customer. Like most people, I would never accept such violations of my person as par for the capitalist course. Like most people, I didn't drop out of school and learn through prostituting my body that if only I could accept occassional attacks, abuses and rapes as normal I'll be able to better remain mentally intact when they happen to me over and over and over again.

"I only had a year 10 education when I started"

I sincerely hope you get the assistance you need to get out.

"'Yes, I have morals when I discourage forms of business that have harmful effects.'"
On who? Certainly not me, the clients or society"

Please do not ignore the obvious damages and devastations of prostitution to salve your own spirit. People are seriously hurt in systems of prostitution and the evidence collected from around the world only ever reinforces this truth you're banging your head against in a futile attempt to wish it away. The "normal" level of physical violation you've come to accept is not normal at all but the result of sexual capitalists redefining prostitution's inherent, repeated abuse as 'normal'. I invite you to review some of the evidence.

 http://www.stoptheabuse.org.nz/why_print.html

10 reasons why the Prostitution Reform Act won?'t work

Prostitution law reform has been tested marketed in Australia. The closest example to what is proposed in New Zealand is New South Wales (NSW) where prostitution was decriminalised in 1995. The experience in NSW, plus evidence from New Zealand and other countries is compelling. Decriminalisation of prostitution not only fails to deliver, it contributes to worsening the problems inherent in the sex industry.

1. The size of the industry will increase.

Australia has experienced a vast increase in both legal and illegal brothels. The number of brothels in NSW has more than tripled to more than 500 ? half of which don?t have planning approval. There are now an estimated 10,000 prostitutes in NSW. An Auckland Massage Parlour operator told the select committee, ?It can confidently be predicted that decriminalisation will at double or treble those choosing to operate [as private operators] because the fear of prosecution is removed.?

2. Decriminalisation will not reduce the number of under-age children working the streets.

While it will be illegal for a brothel to employ a girl under the age of 18, it will not be illegal under the new law for an under age girl to solicit sex. A 1999 Save the Children report found 3,700 children working as prostitutes in Australia ? the worst states were Victoria where prostitution was legalised and NSW where it was decriminalised. A Christchurch School of Medicine study found two-thirds of Christchurch street prostitutes starting working under the age of 18. Girls as young as 12 years old are being picked up in Auckland and Christchurch.

3. Violence against prostitutes will increase.

An 11 year study by Oslo criminologists found that all prostitutes suffer deep psychological damage as a result of their occupation. US researchers Susan Hunter and KC Reed report: ?About 80% of women in prostitution have been the victim of rape?Prostitutes are raped, on the average, eight to ten times a year.? A 1985 Canadian report concluded that girls and women in prostitution have a mortality rate 40 times the national average. Melbourne University Associate Professor of Politics, Shelia Jefferies says, "?Legalisation and decriminalisation are actually institutionalising, promoting and teaching the abuse of women and creating an ever expanding industry which normalises that abuse."?

4. The rate of sexually transmitted disease will increase.

The NSW Health Department says the rate for gonorrhoea has soared in Australia since 1995, when brothels were effectively legalised. Condoms are not 100% effective and premiums are paid for sex without condoms. They provide no protection against scabies, lice, genital warts or herpes and are only 85% effective against AIDS. There are no requirements in the bill for health inspections and brothels would be prohibited from advertising workers are disease free.

5. The number of illegal brothels will not decrease.

In September 2001, then NSW Opposition leader, Mr Brogden, stated in parliament, ?Since 1995, when the Carr Government decriminalised brothels in NSW, there has been an explosion in the number of illegal brothels operating in Sydney and in regional and rural NSW.? All licensing and zoning of brothels in NSW is the responsibility of municipal councils. Sydney councils became so upset over the problems the legislation created they have appealed for help to the Attorney-General. The number of unlicensed brothels in Melbourne trebled and despite legalisation in Victoria the number of illegal brothels still outnumbers those that are licensed.

6. It will not remove prostitutes from the streets.

Since legalisation in Victoria street prostitution became so bad that the Attorney-General formed a committee of inquiry in 2001 to find solutions. Resulting recommendations have proven to be unworkable. In NSW under decriminalisation street prostitution has been so offensive that residents have marched in protest. Under the bill there are no restrictions on soliciting which will be legal anywhere including outside; schools, places of worship, residential houses and in shopping malls.

7. Drug use will saturate the industry.

Bob Harkness, chairperson of Drug-Arm in Christchurch says that drugs and prostitution are inextricably linked. Bob is regularly working with street prostitutes in Christchurch and estimates that 75-80% are using drugs. Australian estimates put the figure at 85%. Prostitution researchers and social workers all agree that drugs and alcohol are used to take away both physical and emotional pain so prostitutes can detach themselves from what they do.

8. There will be an increase in control by gangs and organised crime.

The bill contains no restrictions on who can own or manage a brothel. Neither are there any controls on pimping. In NSW Police reported 40 shootings in three months as part of a struggle between rival groups for control of prostitution. The Herald-Sun (April 2002) reported that, ?Victoria?s booming sex industry is operating almost free from regulation?the lack of policing means brothel bosses can flout the law by employing drug addicts and under-age workers.? NZ Police already note in the select committee report that, ?Organised crime groups are reportedly involved in many aspects of the sex industry in New Zealand.?

9. There will be an increase in illegal immigrants and ?slavery?.

A US State Department report on human rights in 2000 condemned Australia?s lax laws because of the increase in trafficking of East Asian women into Australia?s sex industry. A former Federal Australian police officer stated on national radio that hundreds of illegally imported Asian women are being exploited in NSW brothels every day. Auckland police estimate that there are already around 500 Thai women in the Auckland sex industry. At least two cases have been recently reported of Asian women being forced into prostitution illegally in Auckland.

10. Advertising and recruitment will become more blatant.

There are no provisions for any restrictions on advertising in the bill; these matters will be left entirely up to local councils. ?Market forces make for high profile advertising in this industry if there are no restraints,? Auckland Commercial Massage Operators told the select committee in February 2001. Australian and New Zealand promoters of the bill envisage high profile chains and franchising of brothels. Girls are already been approached by pimps outside Tauranga?s Bethlehem College. Recruiting and pimping will be unrestricted under the bill.

No, your the one not listening. 14.Feb.2005 19:44

PROUD AUSTRALIAN SEX WORKER!!!

"Child prostitution and rape have gone up dramatically where prostitution has been legalized in Australia. Trafficking has increased and the number of illegal brothels operating has exploded."

CRAP, crap and more crap. I dunno what country you are reffering to but it sure aint the one I'm living in. You provide no sources for your idiotic figures either.


"Debbie Neilson, president of the Queensland Adult Business Association representing the state's licensed brothel operators, put the ratio of illegal operators to licensed premises at 100 to 1."

For starters Debbie Neilson has a very obvious vested interest in this. Seccond, so what? I've worked in "illegal" (ie. running themselves as "hotels" businesses and they are pretty much the same as the "legal" (ie tax and bribe paying) businesses.


"The gonorrhea rate has shot up in Australia since legalization because condoms don't adequately stop gonorrhea's spread."

No evidence provided as usual.


"These are the facts you avoid when suggesting legalized prostitution has benefitted society, and it flies in the face of what very credible people like the following have found: The United Nations committees on violence against women, trafficking, and children's rights
Prostitute's Collective of Victoria
EPCAT New Zealand
Australian government officials who used to support legalization
international researchers on violence against women "

Only one of these groups actually represents prostitutes. Your single quote from one *individual* in that group was not sourced and from looking at their website it is obvious that the group dissagrees with you.

As for "Australian government officials who used to support legalization
international researchers on violence against women"... There are none! Australia has an ultra-right government that is rolling back all reforms that support women's right at all.


"Don't you think many, many studies on the effectiveness of prostitution legalization have been done?"

Yes and 90% of them agree with me that legalisation improves conditions. You haven't provided a single credible source or argument to dispute that and you clearly haven't bothered to read any of my links.


"Why are there lists like this? I have never worked a job that had to circulate a list of potential customers who may assault and/or rape me just because of what I do. Why are there "panic buttons" in some legal Australian brothels but not in almost all other businesses? I've gotten massages and acupuncture before and I have never seen a "panic button" or the need for large, armed guard the door."

Actually you find such lists in many businesses from banks to nightclubs to shoplifters at your local supermarket. The reason we find them more necessary than other industries is that there are still many clients out there who have similar beliefs to "Sue" - that raping a prostitute is not really rape. I should point out however that these lists are more important for street workers than brothel workers simply because people who want to commit acts of violence against women often target street prostitutes because they know police will be less interested in the case and it is easier for them to get a prostitute alone in their home than say, a random employee at a bank. Taxidrivers also have similar lists for the same reasons.


"You poor thing. The tough girl talk you play won't stop me from lamenting your defeated acceptance of rape, attacks and and abuse as just what you and all other women have to put up to pay the rent."

Firsly, I did not say that I had been attacked in any work place (actually that is none of your business). I was making the point that if I was I would feel exactly the same way about it as if someone attacked me at other jobs I have had. Seccondly I think that your comments show a profoundly sexist and self-rightseous attitude. Why do you feel such a need to prove yourself superior to me?


"I sincerely hope you get the assistance you need to get out."

More patronising rubbish.


"Please do not ignore the obvious damages and devastations of prostitution to salve your own spirit. People are seriously hurt in systems of prostitution and the evidence collected from around the world only ever reinforces this truth you're banging your head against in a futile attempt to wish it away. The "normal" level of physical violation you've come to accept is not normal at all but the result of sexual capitalists redefining prostitution's inherent, repeated abuse as 'normal'. I invite you to review some of the evidence."

Again, why do you feel such a need to prove that I am somehow degraded? You sound like some kind of fundamentalist Christian preacher trying to save people from themselves. Seriously, sex-workers don't need or want people like you meddling in our lives or with our profession.



"Prostitution law reform has been tested marketed in Australia."

Now I see why you are so desperate to prove that I am wrong. It appears that the very existence of a happy Australian sex-worker who knows the truth about the industry in this country totally undermines your whole campaign! :P

CLearly I'll have to write a longer response to all this garbage you people have been putting out!

Ultra-right 14.Feb.2005 19:57

PROUD AUSTRALIAN SEX-WORKER!

 http://www.stoptheabuse.org.nz is a run by ultra-right and church based "United Future" party in NZ ( http://www.unitedfuture.org.nz/).

I sure as hell don't want these people deciding what I can do with my body!

citations checkable 15.Feb.2005 08:17

Sam

I've named lots of names and given plenty of sources you can further investigate, but I don't think you will (maybe someone else reading this might.)

I recommend highly the United Nations 1999 Save the Children report and the best internet source for global research on prostitution, http;//www.prostitutionresearch.com

Another great place for international research on commerical sex exploitation is the Coalition Against Trafficking in Women,  http://www.catwinternational.org/

I found the following essay recently and I think it brilliantly shows that the Swedish model of decriminalization offers the best option for dealing with prostitution, trafficking and child sexual exploitation. It also summarizes outcome effects of legalization from trials around the world cause those nitpicky Swedes took years to collect and analyze data up before concluding prostitution is inherently harmful.

 http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_sweden.html

Sweden's Prostitution Solution: Why Hasn't Anyone Tried This Before?

In a centuries deep sea of clichÚs despairing that 'prostitution will always be with us', one country's success stands out as a solitary beacon lighting the way. In just five years Sweden has dramatically reduced the number of its women in prostitution. In the capital city of Stockholm the number of women in street prostitution has been reduced by two thirds, and the number of johns has been reduced by 80%. There are other major Swedish cities where street prostitution has all but disappeared. Gone too, for the most part, are the renowned Swedish brothels and massage parlors which proliferated during the last three decades of the twentieth century when prostitution in Sweden was legal.

In addition, the number of foreign women now being trafficked into Sweden for sex is nil. The Swedish government estimates that in the last few years only 200 to 400 women and girls have been annually sex trafficked into Sweden, a figure that's negligible compared to the 15,000 to 17,000 females yearly sex trafficked into neighboring Finland. No other country, nor any other social experiment, has come anywhere near Sweden's promising results.

By what complex formula has Sweden managed this feat? Amazingly, Sweden's strategy isn't complex at all. It's tenets, in fact, seem so simple and so firmly anchored in common sense as to immediately spark the question, "Why hasn't anyone tried this before?"

? 15.Feb.2005 12:48

unsatisfied viewer

Hey Australian Sex Worker, I clicked on the two links you posted and neither of them have any research on them, much less research showing a majority of sex workers want to keep turning tricks. Do you know of any specific research supporting your position?

Learn to fucking read then! 15.Feb.2005 14:22

ASW

Both link contain a lot of research. If you can't be bothered navigating your way through a simple website then you clearly aren't all that interested in the debate. Especially considering that I posted a summary of some interesting research about illegal workers above.

Also Sam, I'm not really interested in the UN's opinion, the opinion of a host of ultra-right faith based politicians, the opinions of bourgois femminists or your opinion's regarding what I do with my body and what career choices I make.

Stick with topics you actually know about and have some involvement or interest in. Your stuff about Peak Oil, WTC etc is interesting, but in this particular issue you really don't know fuck all.

not convincing me 15.Feb.2005 15:06

still unsatisfied

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that there is evidence to counter what Sam has posted, but I clicked the links and didn't see anything. The first link has no research whatsoever, and when you click on where it says research it says Not Found. The second link has a section for research but there is nothing in it.  http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/research/

"I posted a summary of some interesting research about illegal workers above."

No you didn't. I've read through this thread thoroughly looking for any research-based information you give about illegal workers and it's not here. Do you have mental/learning difficulties or something because a lot of you are saying is obviously not true and remains completely unsupported. Anyone can read this thread and come to the same conclusions so don't get all caps lock on me for pointing things out.

Maybe you're right and I'm too stoopid to navigate a website to find research, or maybe you're full of self-delusional shit and have nothing but baseless whines to offer, but I am serious when I say I want to see any research supporting your claims about Australian prostitution legalization and if an Australian sex worker like yourself can't provide it then I'll have to conclude Sam is right and you're one very damaged woman (actually I think that regardless of whether Sam is right or not).

WOW! 15.Feb.2005 21:52

(horrified) Australian Sex Worker

Your prejudice and hatred is incredible (and here I was thinking this was one of the better IMCs!). I am a dual American/Australian citizen but after reading the mysoginist shit that passes for "progressive" here I am really glad that I live in Australia. You people have NO respect for personal liberty at all.

This "debate" really surprised me because it is simply a non-issue in Australia. There are very few people here who would actually support the criminalisation of sex-work or drugs here. Most believe that our laws regarding these issues need to be liberalised if anything.

As for SA's research page... it was up a couple of days ago but seems to be under renovation or something. The documents are still up however and can be accessed through other parts of the site. But since you seem incapable of scrolling, Ill post it again:

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Proposed Changes to the Australian Federal Criminal Code - Trafficking Laws 11.Feb.2005 17:28

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posted by Australian Sex worker link


Scarlet Alliance Submission to Proposed Changes to the Australian Federal Criminal Code - Trafficking Laws

ABRIDGED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

one The Criminal Code Amendments (Sexual Servitude) 2000, a punitive approach, has not changed the number of people entering Australia to work as migrant labour here, but has created negative impacts on women working under contract, those deceptively recruited, migrant sex workers, Australian sex workers and the general sex industry, resulting in what can only be described as a total failure of the policy to date. Including:

Excessive levels of Immigration (DIMIA) and Police raids; Singling out and targeting of NESB and CALD sex workers; Death in custody; Incorrect detention; Targeting of sex industry businesses that legitimately employ migrant sex workers; Increased criminalisation of the sex industry.

There has been no noticeable decrease in the amount of sex workers who wish to engage in contracts in Australia (Scarlet Alliance estimates the number to have stayed around 400), and we conclude that the punitive regime is not working.

two Scarlet Alliance believes that Amendments outlined in Exposure Draft Criminal Code Amendment (Trafficking in Persons Offences) Bill 2004 will negatively impact on women who are trafficked into Australia on contract and those NESB workers who work legitimately in the Australian sex industry. These amendments will not prevent the practice occurring, but rather will further complicate the conditions of the contracts, placing women at greater risk. Scarlet Alliance does not support these amendments.

three The "Debt Bondage" amendments will affectively make working under contract illegal. This alone will severely affect a person working under contract from accessing assistance or services or disclosing their debt or contract relationship to anyone for fear of detection.

four The definition of exploitation is unclear within this bill, and the dictionary doesn't address this either. The Bill and definition assume consent is irrelevant, and also that sex work as an occupation per se constitutes exploitation. The issue of excessive profiteering goes unmentioned as a basis for the Bill, as does the issue of non-negotiable terms of contract. Scarlet Alliance does not agree with these definitions, and the implied meaning of the word exploitation. The use of the term exploitation must NOT be made synonymous with the occupation of sex work (prostitution) in law.

five Health outcomes are highly compromised by the impact of the implementation of this type of legislation. Extensive and repetitive raids push the workplaces underground, cutting off access for health service providers. Sex Workers are made more vulnerable to HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmissible infections as health educators lose access to the workplaces, reducing the possibility of them receiving information, safe sex equipment and support. When health service delivery is curtailed by workplaces closing or going underground, ALL of the women in those workplaces lose contact with information about options and their rights.

six Rather than adopting a rights based approach to this global issue these amendments constitute a toughening up of the UNSUCESSFUL criminal approach introduced into Australian legislation by the Criminal Code Amendments (Sexual Servitude) 2000.

seven As suggested in our submission addressing both the Criminal Code proposals in 1999 and the Joint Committee on the Australian Crime Commission 2003, we support visa's for migrant workers to enter Australia. If there were legal means to enter the Australian workforce then the requirement for a contract would be greatly reduced.

eight Scarlet Alliance, in accordance with our aim of eradicating injustice and inequality experienced by sex workers, sees this practise of denying sex worker visas as discriminatory and ultimately very dangerous. This policy is directly responsible for the illegal status of hundreds of sex workers in Australia each year, and as a result those workers are denied protection within the decriminalised and legal sex industry. By denying sex workers visas to enter Australia, the Federal Government has created de-facto sex industry law. Even though sex industry law is currently determined by the states and territories, the status of migrant sex workers is in the hands of the Federal Government, and will be further criminalised under the proposed amendments.

nine The Australian Government's discussion paper "Offences Against Humanity, Slavery, Model Criminal Code Officers Committee" 1998, recommendations of which were subsequently made law, indicate clearly that the Government perceived the need for laws covering sexual slavery, "were related to the problem of illegal migrants in the prostitution industry"1. This statement clearly articulates an interest in clearing out illegal migrants NOT in stopping trafficking or reducing the capacity for harm to migrant sex workers, deceptively recruited women or Australian sex workers. Essentially the Australian Government and its agencies have utilized the issue of trafficking to enable excessive targeting of sex industry premises by DIMIA in a unprecedented level of immigration raids. Scarlet Alliance believes this legislation to be a toughening up of laws which focus on enforcement and criminalization without addressing intrinsic issues.

ten The Australian Government rather than seeking to lead the way in a human rights approach to such a complex issue has instead pieced together legislation which simply replicates the failure of other countries who have introduced similar styles of legislation.

eleven The current federal laws aimed at curbing the movement of migrant sex workers into the Australian sex industry are being applied unfairly. There is excessive criminalisation and targeting of individuals from non-English speaking backgrounds within the sex industry. This is discriminatory against sex industry workers and is racist against people from non-English speaking backgrounds.

twelve Scarlet Alliance supports the rights of migrant sex workers to employment in Australia.

thirteen Scarlet Alliance wishes to acknowledge that although we raise many concerns about the lack of a comprehensive vision for migrant workers rights, we understand that the overall intent of the proposed amendment is to prevent all trafficking into forced labour, slavery and servitude. However, we are adamant that this clear purpose is obscured by the inclusion of "sexual servitude" in the definitions of trafficking.

 http://www.scarletalliance.org.au/issues/migrant-workers/traff-laws05/exec-summ04/document_view

research 16.Feb.2005 09:52

Sam

That's not research, it's a policy statement by a lobbying group.

Reseach looks like, "We asked x number of people questions a,b, and c and their answers were 60% this, 20% that, 10% the other and 10% another, and here's a representative quote from each position"

For example, from the Prostitution Reseach site  http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/fempsy1.html :

We interviewed 475 people (including women, men and the transgendered) currently and recently prostituted in five countries (South Africa, Thailand, Turkey, USA, Zambia). In response to questionnaires which inquired about current and lifetime history of physical and sexual violence, what was needed in order to leave prostitution and current symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) we found that violence marked the lives of these prostituted people. Across countries, 73 percent reported physical assault in prostitution, 62 percent reported having been raped since entering prostitution, 67 percent met criteria for a diagnosis of PTSD. On average, 92 percent stated that they wanted to leave prostitution.

Of these 475 respondents, 41ápercent reported that they had been upset by attempts to coerce them into imitating pornography and 46ápercent had pornography made of them while in prostitution.

We asked respondents what they needed (see Table 7). On average, 92ápercent stated that they wanted to leave prostitution; 73ápercent needed a physical place of asylum; 70ápercent needed job training; 59ápercent needed health care; 55ápercent wanted individual counseling; and 49ápercent wanted peer support; 47ápercent needed child care; 45ápercent wanted self-defense training; 38ápercent needed drug or alcohol addiction treatment; 24ápercent thought that prostitution should be legalized.

Representational quote: "It's a process. The first year was like a big party, but eventually progressed downward to the emptiest void of hopelessness. I ended up desensitized, completely deadened, not able to have good feelings because I was on 'void' all the time."

"mentally retarded" "delusional" "sick" "degraded" "whiny" "stoopid" etc. 16.Feb.2005 13:29

ASW

SA isn't a "lobby group" but our UNION. There is plenty of research in that paper and on the site to back it up. Don't you know what an "executive summary" is? It is clear from your comments that you are not interested in the perspective of actual workers in the industry because you think we are "fallen women" etc. I'm not going to reprint the whole thing here nor am I going to continue this offensive and childish round about conversation any more.

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