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Victoria IMC Replaced by Macho Cartoon

The continuing saga of Vic-IMC: The archived website
( http://victoria.indymedia.org) is not currently available. It was replaced with an obnoxious cartoon yesterday.
Visitors to victoria.indymedia.org find this instead
Visitors to victoria.indymedia.org find this instead
Victoria, BC, Canada - The Indymedia collective here has no explanation for the bizarre graphic replacing its website since last night. The changes were apparently carried out by Victoria's hosts in Vancouver, BC. Once again, the hosts did not notify the collective about the changes. After almost 24 hours, the website, admin, and lists used by the Victoria collective are still not accessible, and the group has no information from the hosts about the reason for the change, or how long Victoria's editors will be locked out of the site.

A Victoria editor had this to say: "shit. uggggg."

The site does not appear to have been hacked by external forces.

The relationship between Victoria and its host, Vancouver Indymedia, has been strained in recent months by the Vancouver administrators' failure to contact the collective when the site is suddenly pulled offline. Today's redirect is the third time since November that the site was removed with little or no explanation.

Victoria IMC is currently weighing its options on continuing its hosting arrangement with Vancouver, versus moving to a more reliable, open and democratic host.

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Vic-IMC Fighting to Stay Online: Recent Articles 31.Jan.2005 19:04

Jane Doe

Victoria Indymedia is fighting the good fight -- providing an open forum for radical and progressive activists for social justice. For that reason, the group has come into conflict with its host, Vancouver Indymedia, and the dark forces that attempt to destabilize activist publishing. Here is some of the recent history:

Troll Attack Cripples Victoria IMC
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/307776.shtml

Victoria Indymedia Facing Shutdown
 http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/1706507.php

The Decline and Fall of Vancouver Indymedia
 http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/09/1703295.php

The Site is Back - Sort Of 31.Jan.2005 21:13

Jane Doe

Victoria IMC's website is back online, but remains in archive mode as publishing was suspended by the hosts over three weeks ago. A tech volunteer apologized and said the site substitution was a mistake. Admin functions and the group's listserve are still not accessible at this time.

apparent source of troll 31.Jan.2005 21:38

anon

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kobehq.com

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ATTN: KOBEHQ.COM
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P.O. Box 447
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Phone: 570-708-8780

Domain Name: KOBEHQ.COM

Administrative Contact :
Brannigan, Geoff
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Phone: 570-708-8780

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Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

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ATTN: INDY-MEDIA.ORG
c/o Network Solutions
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Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

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Show underlying registry data for this record


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Data as of: 08-Jun-2004

nice little white girl 31.Jan.2005 21:44

Ytzhak

...as some of us know that on certain less priviledged peoples, a war was declared at birth. b.u.t. now on a larger scale the masses who wish to become of support the resistence/warriors must learn that these are times of war -- in war dirty tricks and "take no prisioners" is the rule of engagement -- b.u.t. we must know or teach the first rule... just as the mainstream media has been attacked, journalist killed or replaced, news outlets merged, passified and overpowered by IMPROPERgandist for neocon/noelib, zionist and corperate global agendas, so have independant medias -- either they are raided, influtraTRAITORed, compromised or collapsed ....... a few still stand there ground. such is the case with the fall of victoria indie media and the doe that went into destroying it.


"War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society those irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the Government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense. The machinery of government sets and enforces the drastic penalties; the minorities are either intimidated into silence, or brought slowly around by a subtle process of persuasion which may seem really to be converting them. [From Zinn & Arnove, Voices of a People's History ..., p. 299.]"


 http://www.iacenter.org/maj_warsfor%20whitenation.htm

I would agree with "previous Vancouver Indymedia editor" comments that you are biased doe, or as others have called you a disinfortmationist rude "drama queen" meant to "emotionalize, goad and antogonize" true so called "activists" or warriors by distracting and misdirecting the peoples with 1984 fear tactricks of created/constructed enemies.


other people have commented on your behavior DOE and your coopting and collapsing of victoria indie media. that you are invoking "new speak", using of a.d.l. covert steez tacttricks and creating these horrible mysterious right wing antiactivist? "others" (activist being a term you throw around alot and have never defined b.u.t. p.u.s.h. the term like bush pimps "daemoncracy"). it seems by "activist" is a meant is clique of white middle-class dilletants colonialists who bow to the whims and flaccid agendas which touch on misdirecting the people away from the local victoria issues of class, education, police abuse of natives, posts defending muslims and the poor, exposing the murders of natives (peace to anthany james dawson), the white supremacist movement within victoria and on the island, gentrification of our hoods, and the articles and peoples who question and fight the infultration of zionazis onto indie media sites, as well as, posts and posters who criticize israel's butchery -- who when asked by most imcs and vans' indie imc --- pose the biggest threat to bandwidth and safety of what some call the left and the rest of us call the struggle (social, economic, cultural and otherwise). however, i notice in these alarmist updates it is never brought up the issue of zionazis . in fact, the terror alerts seem to misdirect the people, not on our island, into believing you have some sort of power, are respected and looking out and fighting for the interests of our culture and independant voices -- which you are not.

within the three months of your timed appearence and convient joining of vic imc, you have spent it badgering posters, disrupting activity and situating yourself as DICKtator; having positioned yourself as the ultimate voice and representitive. you have attracted the most violent of trolls, abused your power by running a free for all arbitary deletation policy -- not of trolls -- b.u.t. of anyone or any post which you don't agree with or questions your fascist behavior as you run a bushite "your either with u.s. or against u.s" or more "BRING IT ON" mentality of terror.

it is felt by many that you have been successful in the destruction of an important voice on the kkkkanadian side of the pacnw and one of our last voices. you have been successful in collapsing an important indie media sight. you have, as i have read, not been successful in dividing the radicals/warriors and those who challenge the centres of power from each one by using the vehicle of fear -- "the other" and sighting "kobe" ops and feds like bush sees terrorist.

i would feel that van imc would wish to distance themselves, and would be smart in doing so, from you and your chums further infultrations and destructions of voices, knowledge and oppostion to the oppressive forces of the system. also that your presence will jeapodize the safety of these so called 'activists"/warriors, radicals and revolutionaries not mention civil conversation, debate and discussion.


as a min p scott reminds us;

"As Bro. Malcolm told the nice little white girl who wanted to know what she
could do to help his cause. Nuthin'! "



cheers and ta



"has there ever been a social movement that tried to transform the statis quo that was not undermind by the, use or one might even say, misuse of snitches?" ...dedicated to the doe used to usher in the fall of Victoria Independant Media

 http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/244050.shtml

from new palestine

About the hackers 01.Feb.2005 04:43

Insider

The hackers are working for private contractors paid for by Rumsfeld's Defense Intelligence Agency. One contractor is Cycorp of Austin, Texas:

 http://www.cyc.com

They recruit sociopaths such as various employes at Sigma Data Systems, a Tucson corportation that develops software for police departments.

Other members include Josiah Hagen, former Cycorp employee and current employee of Hagen Software, Phil Hagen of the DC Registry, Hagen Software and Hagen Hosting.

Look, I understand your resistance to being hacked and all... 01.Feb.2005 14:21

Some X-Men Nerd

...but what's wrong with Omega Red? That guy kicked ass.

To "troll" 01.Feb.2005 20:30

Ytzhak montfu65@hotamil.com

ted also reported on the vic imc list that anthany james dawson was not murdered by the victoria police dept but was killed when a fat man sat on him. btw. ted was not censored for his remarks.

"To "troll" in the world of the internet is to lurk on a discussion board and make deliberately false and inflammatory comments, to which all the other posters feel they must reply, so that it roils the list. There is also a connotation of dishonesty about the troll's real identity." -- juan cole -- "Manipulation of the Blogging World on Iraq?"


 http://www.juancole.com/2004/12/manipulation-of-blogging-world-on-iraq.html




 http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/766_0_15_0_C/


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