HAARP playing with the sun, or what? Unusual Solar X-Class Flare Activity

If somebody can control something that large, and that far away, they are GOD. Tell me where to go to worship him/her.

When I saw the headline, at first I thought it was a joke making fun of the HAARP conspiracy theorists. Oh, well.

I agree with the above poster; if you really believe that this HAARP outfit is so powerful, you might as well just give up and submit to them right now. It would save you a lot of worrying and hand-wringing.

on the middle image, "[2] noaa_xrays_1_16_05", it looks like a regular 3 hour pulse for two days (at least, who can say what is before this graphs cut off on the left), while the background radiation catches up. Though about 1.5 days into this 3-hr pulsing, the background sort of "rights itself" back down refusing the stimulation, and (as a consequence?) then you get this super big pulse (perhaps testing the next level of effects?...), and then it is allowed to totally collapse to watch watch a big burst unleashes.

All I know is if I could do that to the sun, and that would be the hypothesis, I would say I would want to "tune" what I could do before I really created some useful controlled terror/havoc.

Of course, just typing this here in 2005, if I can think it, someone with the billions would have thunk it long before me.

The sun is billions of years old. How the hell can you even make predictions based on 12 years of observation?

OK, let's make predictions based on the Pentagon's "Owning the Weather in 2025" and their desire to influence (as they state) "space weather."

You said :

"The sun is billions of years old. How the hell can you even make predictions based on 12 years of observation? "

Well, the earth is billions of years old and there are plenty of people on the global warming theory.

How can the global warming crowd make predictions based on only a hundred years of reliable tempeture readings?

a thousand years ago, a mini ice age happened which drove the vikings from greenland.

we humans basically don't know shit about anything...

"we humans basically don't know shit about anything..."

---whenever I hear that I hear a lot of personal projection. The type of ignorance to fear is only hubris, because "basic" ignorance is always correctible.

What people have to worry about is hubris from the people who do have the political power, by hook or crook mostly, to actually accomplish their goals. So they would like to believe. Like Bush just decising to "remake" a whole Middle East in his own image, without much knowledge at all of what was going to happen. That is criminal. He's spent 150 BILLION dollars on his delusions.
Probably more has been spent by the madmen at HAARP facilities. Billions spent by GMO scientists, etc. They all have this tiny obsessions that by themselves are dangerous when money gets thrown at them. They have little bits of specialized knowledges. Though it seems that we live in a world at present where it is the grossly ignorant administrators who hire the pea-brained scientific specialists to set up their ignorant political agenda. If the ignorant, like Bush, have cobbled the show together in the first place, all the knowledge expended in the world for those ignorant goals will make zero difference.




"How can the global warming crowd make predictions based on only a hundred years of reliable tempeture readings?"

---They have ice cores, etc., if you learned more you will find how hard it is to really know nothing, or make such totalizing statements about it. peace ;-)

I said reliable tempeture readings frozen bubbles with CO2 in them.

Once again, we humans don't know shit...

" based on only a hundred years of reliable tempeture readings?"

ha ha got me. though you can get teperature readings from various other things by proxy: for instance there are Japanese temperature records of ice melt dates at certain lakes for well over 600 years. you can guage temperature/warming by other factors, pollen in ice, etc. As you said Co2.

Wait a minute! I'm sure you can ask the aliens. They would have more detailed records than us humans too busy talking shit to one another to bother to do any research. ;-)


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Besides, I have seen on some occassions that some have "reframed" their statement toward "global weather instability" instead of simply "warming." So, will it be fire or will it be ice? And will it be made to order, keeping HAARP and weather control in mind?

Little do we know that "the planet of the crossing" comes every 36,000 years according to the Sumerian tablets that Bush ran in to grab at the same time that he was grabbing the oil. Planet X's gravitation and EMF are so strong that they can affect the sun's solar activity.

We know that some unknown large gravitational field caused the perturbations in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune and caused pioneers X and pioneer X1 to slow down and caused the sharp drop off in the Kuiper belt. Is some big object out there is causing havoc in the solar system?

Discovered in the 1980's (the X's planet -remember?)and suddenly HUSH HUSH...

Every 3,600 years!

As for the idea of "something" outside of human intervention causing the solar flares, consider this: at the same time the Earth is experiencing warming it looks like Mars is too. Hence the recent finding of water on Mars.

Makes one wonder what the PTB are not telling us other than the usual rape and pillage of our planet.

"Having so many big flares from one particular region of the Sun is quite something," says Bernhard Fleck, project scientist for the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory satellite. The X-rays produced by the flares did not rise to the level of the notorious solar storms of October and November 2003, but in terms of high-energy protons, this is the largest radiation storm since October 1989.

- NOAA also received reports of communication blackouts.

- Two major US airlines rerouted planes away from the polar areas to avoid additional radiation,...

- Instruments on two of NOAA's satellites, SOHO and the Advanced Composition Explorer, were blinded by radiation contamination for several hours, and there are unconfirmed reports of problems on other satellites.

- The eruptions also required evasive action aboard the International Space Station.



Sunspot Cluster Ejects Huge Radiation Storm
By Kelly Young
NewScientist.com
1-22-2005


The Sun spewed forth a massive amount of radiation this week, causing brilliant auroras and a radio blackout.

Since 14 January alone, it has unleashed at least 17 medium and five large solar flares from a single sunspot cluster. Forecasters at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) expect medium to high solar activity to continue until 23 January.

"Having so many big flares from one particular region of the Sun is quite something," says Bernhard Fleck, project scientist for the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory satellite.

The X-rays produced by the flares did not rise to the level of the notorious solar storms of October and November 2003, but in terms of high-energy protons, this is the largest radiation storm since October 1989.

Magnetic fields

Solar flares occur when energy stored in magnetic fields above sunspots is suddenly released. In this case, the offending sunspot grew into a cluster eight times the diameter of Jupiter in about five days.

Solar activity typically follows an 11-year cycle. Scientists estimate that the Sun experienced its last peak in 2000. "Often the biggest events are in the falling part of the solar cycle," Fleck told New Scientist. "So this is actually not that surprising."

Effects of the solar storms were seen on Earth. Auroras produced by the increased solar activity were spotted over northern parts of Europe and North America and above New Zealand on 18 and 19 January. NOAA also received reports of communication blackouts.

Evasive action

Two major US airlines rerouted planes away from the polar areas to avoid additional radiation, said Bill Murtagh, a space weather forecaster for NOAA. Instruments on two of NOAA's satellites, SOHO and the Advanced Composition Explorer, were blinded by radiation contamination for several hours, and there are unconfirmed reports of problems on other satellites.

The eruptions also required evasive action aboard the International Space Station. The two-man crew, Leroy Chiao and Salizhan Sharipov, ducked for cover inside the bulkier Russian side of the station when their orbit took them through the worst of the storm. High doses of radiation can cause health problems: astronauts are more prone to cataracts later in life, for example.

The astronauts plan to conduct a 5.5-hour spacewalk outside the station's protective walls on 26 January. They will install a new work platform, a small robotic experiment and other science equipment.

NOAA officials say that the sunspot region that caused the solar storms should rotate to the far side of the Sun by 22 January, so the astronauts should not be in danger of increased radiation exposure during their excursion.

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About 1980 or so I was intrigued by reports of wx control efforts by major powers. Of course N. Teslas's name was referenced. Additional subject discussions such as: Powerful electro magnet built in U.S., shipped to Riga, Latvia; Later reports of strange electromagnetic phenononen in same area, odd lightning-like visuals reported. Later theories of standing waves created in atmosphere, but began moving uncontrollably, and whose collisions resulted in unexplainable "black-outs" (Power failures) in some major cities.
Although very interested in the theories and reports, publicity of subject seemed to tail off, and I lost a little interest.
Obviously I lost my interest too soon too easily, as I recently (last few months) observed very unusual cloud patterns over Colorado that I had not seen in 30 years of flying for the USAF.
With this background of suspicion of governmental agencies, and recent reported events,
my current interest has been magnified, so I will again begin absorbing all I can about the subject. K D Brooks