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ALERT! ALERT! Possible Stage-attack on Dec. 27th

found this at TRUTHSEEKER's website, and while I certainly hope it's hype, we
must take into consideration "who" the player's are, and then...take caution
accordingly. I'll toss this out there for your due considerations thereof!

If it's hype, so be it!

If it is based on TRUTH, then the more knowledge aforehand, will keep these
creeps from going forth with any evilness...the more know, the less likely
they'll undertake such an endeavor! Make sense?
A Staged Attack on Atlanta, Dallas or Houston on Dec 27???
From a former Bundesnachrichtendienst member-- Intel Expert


(We cannot verify or dismiss out of hand the following. However if genuine, advance publicity may actually prevent its occurrence. Ed.)

Paul Wofowitz will authorise the detonation of a nuclear payload in the Houston area on December 27, 2004. The Hidden Hand network (Mossad/al-Qaeda/SAS) of which he is the nominal controller has verified in advance every aspect of operational integrity - a failsafe job with zero chance of discovery.

Houston has been primed for months via deliberate mismanagement, incompetence, corruption and embezzlement at its FEMA-independent Emergency Center. The police and fire services have been deliberately and systematically sabotaged and thrown into administrative chaos so as to ensure maximum fatalities in the aftermath of the detonation. However, the existence of the center will provide the Bush administration with a "we did everything we could" excuse.

We believe the Hidden Hand envisages the following scenario:

1. Detonation on Dec 27 (could be delayed, but all our intercepts point to this date)

2. The State Department blames "al-Qaeda", whose leaders are allegedly hiding in Iran

3. Iran (truthfully) denies giving refuge to said leaders

4. Bush issues Iran with a cowboy-style deadline for delivery of alleged leaders

5. Iran fails to comply because it cannot

6. UN convenes in emergency session - no agreement (Watch Ariel Sharon quietly flee to his private estate in Greece)

7. Other foreign intelligence agencies dispute the State Department version

8. Happily for Wolfowitz, Osama bin Laden releases a videotape claiming responsibility, warning America not to attack his "brave warriors" in Iran

9. American fighters launch a "decapitation" attack on the Iranian government and alleged "al-Qaeda" bases

We know that the Wolfowitz network has concealed a remote-controlled nuclear payload in the Houston area. None of our intercepts give us exact coordinates. We have also heard the same code system used in regard to Atlanta and Dallas, although not with the same frequency. We believe that Mara Salvatruchas, the CIA-run Salvadora syndicate, is peripherally involved with the Wolfowitz network in protecting and running cover for a rogue ex-SAS British assassin who is perhaps the world´s leading logistics and reconnaisance expert.

Last known as either Frank Riley or Terence Lawley, we believe that he was responsible for the murder of nuclear physicist John Mullen on June 29. Mullen was approached by a Hidden Hand contact man posing as a CIA agent at the behest of Wolfowitz on February 12, 2003, and was asked to provide the "CIA" with an hypothetical schematic of a remote-controlled, trunk-sized nuclear device with a payload "several times greater than ´Fat Man´" (in the interests of nationaly security). Mullen was told that the hypothetical impact area would be "a city the size of Houston". Mullen complied with this request but grew suspicious toward the end of 2003 and abruptly ended his cooperation.

At the beginning of June, Mr Mullen decided to contact the staff of former National Security Adviser, Sandy Berger, with a view to discussing his CIA work with him. At the time Berger was too busy too see him immediately owing to his work as foreign policy adviser to John Kerry. We believe that this is what sealed the fate of Mr Mullen, as Sandy Berger does indeed have informal links to the Wolfowitz network and it is conceivable that Berger warned Hidden Hand. Incidentally, three weeks later Berger was charged by the FBI with the theft of critical documents from the National Archive relating to evidence that he had helped Wolfowitz facilitate the 9-11 attacks.

Wolfowitz is also running a Mossad agent in the Houston area called Avner Meir, whose present status is unknown, but we believe he is currently holding a visitor´s visa. His job is to facilitate the smuggling of Muslims (any Muslims will do) across the Mexican border and provide them with accomodation and distress funds under the asuspices of a fake charitable organisation. We suspect that Meir, also a master forger, will provide the unwitting Muslims with forged US passports and driving licences, plenty of Muslim literature, commendations and enough money to be "seen and remembered".

This was the basis of my discussions with American diplomatic personnel in Frankfurt yesterday, both of whom have been locked in secret discussions with the German government over, among many other things, their application for political refugee status in the event of making this known to the media.

The far side of the CIA and Mossad have been ordered to drop any plans they may have had for bombing the financial district of Frankfurt, including the European Central Bank. The Wolfowitz Network has decided that the Houston detonation must take priority over everything else.

All of our intercepts, field information and disclosures from former (and not so former!) US diplomatic personnel, tell us that the American people are being set up for another, but even more devastating, 9-11 tragedy in which a tiny group of people will gain enormously at the expense of the rest of the world.

Bushington, D.C. Crying Wolf 18.Dec.2004 18:04

twospiritwarrior

[Quote]Possible Stage-attack on Dec. 27th[Quote]

Like the people George II sacrificed in the WTC, claiming it was an
attack by "terrorists."
Look no further than the White House for the true terrorists of the world.

you know, this could be farfetched...just don't know for sure! 18.Dec.2004 18:35

but...I do know my grandson works for FEMA

in Houston and he say it's a cesspool of corruption...too much DeLay/Bush meddling! So...?

This grandson of yours... 18.Dec.2004 19:07

Just Thinking

Would it be appropriate to approach him, from a journalistic point of view, to see if he would like to speak out? Whistleblowers have been known to divert the course of history. Perhaps encourage him to contact a trusted news agency.

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH: 18.Dec.2004 19:18

I monitor this site for Russian friends

and they've said the Russian military has gone on heightened alert for next 2 weeks!

OK, the russian's have gone on alert! 18.Dec.2004 19:46

what's that got to do with this matter?

I don't get it. please explain why russian military alert is important to us

Why it's important 18.Dec.2004 20:32

Sean4489

If the Russians have gone on alert it is important to us because that could be evidence that there is indeed a real threat. If Russian intelligence became aware of information that suggested a possible nuc attack, any where in the world, they would be interested, as would any other country. If someone sets off a nuc in the USA every other nation in the world is going to be nervous because they will all be potential targets for a retalitory strike. I think a better question would be: is Russia going on hightened alert? Why?

Peace

never did like Houston... 18.Dec.2004 20:42

shaker

But apparently such a crime doesn't survey the expanse of imagination of those who would imprison us. The mobilization of our spirits is needed, not the heightened alert of the Russians.

this is getting "interesting"....hmmmm! 18.Dec.2004 20:47

NOVOSTI-Russian News & Information Agency

2004-12-16 16:07 * RUSSIA * STRATEGIC MISSILE FORCES * REGIMENT *
TOPOL-M REGIMENT PUT ON ALERT


VLASIKHA (Moscow Region), December 16 (RIA Novosti) - A fourth missile regiment, armed with new Topol-M silo-based missile systems, was put on alert, Commander of the Strategic Missile Forces Nikolai Solovtsov told reporters.

"I can tell you that another regiment armed with Topol-M silo-based missiles has been put on full alert," he said and added that each regiment had 10 missile systems. The Strategic Missile Force currently has 40 silo-based missile systems on alert.

He also said that the force would continue to use Voyevoda missiles for another 10-15 years.

"A combat missile system equipped with Voyevoda missiles [classified as Satan in the West] can be used for another 10-15 years," he said, and therefore the Strategic Missile Forces will continue to use them for this period."

He said that this was primarily possible by extending the missile's service life.

>>>>>>>>>>NOVOSTI-Russian News & Information Agency

The FEMA Website claims they will attack Portland instead. 18.Dec.2004 20:55

Werewolf-o-witz

FEMA decided that if they blew up houston, nobody would be able to tell any difference, so they thought they would retarget and take out portland. This way the rest of the country would notice, but nothing that a few mega-vitimans and oprah episodes wouldn't cure..

Pssss! 18.Dec.2004 20:55

IN YOUR LEAD HEADER

you should have typed "Staged-attack" rather than "Stage-attack" to be more gramatically correct

WOW! Imagine this, will ya...even Dr. Henry Makow has posted an article 18.Dec.2004 21:12

on this same subject...may not be bullshit after all...???

9-11 to Repeat on 12-27?

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

If you want to enjoy a peaceful and carefree Christmas, don't read this.

Information predicting an act of nuclear terrorism in Houston on November 27 is circulating on the Internet. The source purports to be a former member of German Intelligence. He claims the CIA and FBI are again ignoring precise warnings from his organization, as they did before 9-11. He says Paul Wolfowitz, the Mossad and CIA are again behind the attack.

The information was culled from an extended exchange last week between an unknown "German Guy" and members of the Forum of "Godlike Productions," which caters to "conspiracy theories and the lunatic fringe." Many members ridiculed him but he was not deterred.

 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?message=54181&topic=10

It was collected and posted on a number of forums including the Yahoo Group of Rumor Mill News (post 23891) and Dream Expedition.

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RUMORMILLNEWS/messages

 http://www.dreamexpedition.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=958&PN=1

It may be a hoax, a form of psychological terrorism. I hope and pray it is. It could even be propaganda designed to undermine US morale and create panic. I certainly don't want to be part of that.

I have posted similar predictions that have turned out to be untrue. For example, the "White House Insider" from TBRNews.org went way out on a limb saying there would be an attack on Iran before the US election. Of course this didn't happen.

Nevertheless this source sounds extremely credible. He has a sophisticated knowledge of the power structure and the players, which is worth considering by itself. He shows how the CIA and Mossad are instruments of London-based world finance. It seems like the spontaneous gesture of a man of conscience whose warnings were rebuffed once. Or he could be a clever impostor. Ultimately, you will make up your own mind.

If there is the remotest chance that he is on the level, publicity might prevent an unspeakable tragedy. I was going to write about the meaning of Christmas being Christian love. Love sometimes means sounding an alarm even when people just want to celebrate the season.

WORLD CONTEXT

We may be on the cusp of catastrophic events and even World War. The Illuminati wishes to destroy the US as a superpower and fold it into the New World Order. George Bush and the Neo Cons are traitors who have sent the US army into a meat grinder.

Before the war began, Iran and Iraq likely made an alliance. They knew the Neo Cons ultimate goal is to invade Iran and control the world's oil supply. They prepared this guerrilla war long in advance and it is well coordinated and financed.

The only way the Neo Cons can rescue the situation is to provoke a nuclear war against Iran. It is plausible that the same ruthless force behind Sept. 11 is prepared to act again.

The following are excerpts and summaries of the "German Guy's" disclosures:

"Anyone else able to pick up CIA and other US government "chatter"? I can, and I have.

December 27 is the day that's freaking out the minions at the alphabet agencies (but not the controllers at the good ol´ al-CIAda network).

It sounds as if it'll make 911 look like rather a fun day.
How do I know? ... .

I'm a former employee for the German foreign intelligence service, the Bundesnachrichtendienst.

Paul Wolfowitz will authorize the detonation of a nuclear payload in the Houston area on December 27, 2004. The Hidden Hand network (Mossad/al-Qaeda/SAS) of which he is the nominal controller has verified in advance every aspect of operational integrity - a failsafe job with zero chance of discovery.

Houston has been primed for months via deliberate mismanagement, incompetence, corruption and embezzlement at its FEMA-independent Emergency Center. The police and fire services have been deliberately and systematically sabotaged and thrown into administrative chaos so as to ensure maximum fatalities in the aftermath of the detonation. However, the existence of the centre will provide the Bush administration with a "we did everything we could" excuse.

We believe the Hidden Hand envisages the following scenario:

1. Detonation on Dec 27 (could be delayed, but all our intercepts point to this date)

2. The State Department blames "al-Qaeda", whose leaders are allegedly hiding in Iran

3. Iran (truthfully) denies giving refuge to said leaders.

4. Bush issues Iran with a cowboy-style deadline for delivery of alleged leaders.

5. Iran fails to comply because it cannot.

6. UN convenes in emergency session - no agreement (Watch Ariel Sharon quietly flee to his private estate in Greece.)

7. Other foreign intelligence agencies dispute the State Department version.

8. Happily for Wolfowitz, Osama bin Laden releases a videotape claiming responsibility, warning America not to attack his "brave warriors" in Iran.

9. American fighters launch a "decapitation" attack on the Iranian government and alleged "al-Qaeda" bases

We know that the Wolfowitz network has concealed a remote-controlled nuclear payload in the Houston area. None of our intercepts give us exact coordinates. We have also heard the same code system used in regard to Atlanta and Dallas, although not with the same frequency. "

MORE REVELATIONS

1."I can also tell you that the US military expect to lose the war against the resistance movements in Iraq... President Bush is deliberately destroying your military."

2. "I also know that the Americans are "hoping" proactively for a "terrorist" attack in Europe (especially Germany) to get European sentiment behind the Bush policy.

However, it won't work as many journalists (and the BND) are aware of the CIA and some Mossad people who were behind the bombings in Madrid.

If the CIA goes ahead with this plan, they will be found out and the rage against America will intensify. It would mean the end of diplomatic relations between my country and yours."

3. "The British invest heavily in power politics because they have an agenda that cannot be supported by their military. Instead, they use the American military to achieve these goals.

In fact, if the truth was known, many Americans would be horrified to learn that the American military serves the interests of the British and Israelis first and American interests last.

Tony Blair is not really a prime minister in the democratic sense. He is a rubber-stamped (by the people) Crown front-man who is really the prime minister of the City of London, which is the centre of the Anglo-Saxon financial and political empire."

4. "Yes, the cities that are mentioned most as sites for nuclear detonation are Houston, Dallas and Atlanta. In Europe, we have computed multiple references to Frankfurt, Paris, Munich and Berlin (Frankfurt is at the top of the CIA/Mossad "hit list").

A lot of this chatter can be accessed by intercepting the Echelon system, the raw information output of which is processed by the NSA in America and the Royal Signals in Britain (as a side point, the Echelon system is no longer reliable or efficient because it doesn't use intelligent algorithms).

What I rely on is good old-fashioned telephony interception, but on a software platform that unencrypts communications between the various US military installations and CIA stations dotted around Europe. Also, the best intelligence you have is another long-forgotten system called "human contact"! Yes, taking briefings from the intelligence community direct (on an informal off-duty basis, of course)."

5. " To 9-11. I personally (and many within the German intelligence services) believe that 9-11 was an internal operation planned and executed by an extreme pro-Israel faction within the American government and intelligence services. The technicalities evident in both planning, timing and precision flying point to the use of technologies not available to so-called terrorist groups.

We believe that the relationship between the so-called al-Qaeda group (really the Muslim Brotherhood which is financed by the British) and the Israeli intelligence services is very complicated, but there is an alliance of convenience. We ran a personality profile on some of the alleged hijackers, analysed handwriting and applied linguistic methodologies, and thus believe that Atta was a Mossad asset.

There is also an enabling aspect on the part of the Pakistani intelligence services, which is a clone of the CIA. Yesterday Musharraf told your media that he had done everything possible to destroy the Taliban enclave in the border areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is a lie. Neither the Americans nor the Pakistanis have any intention of breaking the Afghan rebel forces, as they will need them to become more extreme and regain the coüntry at a future date.

I think it would be very interesting to see Osama bin Laden and Mr Wolfowitz in a room together privately, for I am sure they would kiss each other on the cheeks as brothers under the skin with roughly the same general project, though sharply divergent goals."

6. "If there is a continuing move to a world order of concentrated power, then this would rely first on the destruction of the American people and the American system of government. This is already happening in the United States and the biggest culprits are to be found in the American government itself.

It seems that a grouping of international corporate entities and financial institutions have decided that America at this late stage is only good for projecting military force, and so it will use up American resources to advance its own agenda until there is not much left of American power and credibility.

At the geopolitical level there are only two main beneficiaries: Israel and the City of London (Israel will then be destroyed by the CoL and international corporate power groups). At the financial-imperial level, the major corporations and institutions involved in the bleeding away of American military power have little to lose, since all of them have sufficient assets outside of US territories and would survive the collapse of the United States as a global power.

So if this is what you mean by a world order, then you are correct. It will not be a global system of control connived by nation states, but rather by corporate and financial entities (who already enjoy enormous power and influence at all levels in all countries)."

7."Wolfowitz is also running a Mossad agent in the Houston area called Avner Meir, whose present status is unknown, but we believe he is currently holding a visitor´s visa. His job is to facilitate the smuggling of Muslims (any Muslims will do) across the Mexican border and provide them with accommodation and distress funds under the auspices of a fake charitable organisation. We suspect that Meir, also a master forger, will provide the unwitting Muslims with forged US passports and driving licences, plenty of Muslim literature, commendations and enough money to be "seen and remembered".

This was the basis of my discussions with American diplomatic personnel in Frankfurt yesterday, both of whom have been locked in secret discussions with the German government over, among many other things, their application for political refugee status in the event of making this known to the media.

The far side of the CIA and Mossad have been ordered to drop any plans they may have had for bombing the financial district of Frankfurt, including the European Central Bank. The Wolfowitz Network has decided that the Houston detonation must take priority over everything else.

All of our intercepts, field information and disclosures from former (and not so former!) US diplomatic personnel, tell us that the American people are being set up for another, but even more devastating, 9-11 tragedy in which a tiny group of people will gain enormously at the expense of the rest of the world."

8. "Please allow me to clarify something important. When the Bundesnachrichtendienst seeks to warn other nations about possible covert activity, it is standard procedure to transmit this information only to its opposite number. In the United States this is the CIA, which is then mandated to relay that intelligence to the government. The BND performed this function twice in 2001 prior to the 9-11 attacks, warning very explicitly with detailed information about exactly (and I mean "exactly") what the Wolfowitz network was doing. Twice, the BND was ignored.

Although we are former BND operatives and analysts (plus my technical partner), who also work internationally in conjunction with "The Library", we would still be expected to follow standard procedure. However, we no longer trust the CIA establishment as an impartial mediator of critical information. Nor do we have much faith in the Bush executive, from within which the Wolfowitz network of the Hidden Hand was spawned.

We therefore made an unprecedented decision to communicate these findings directly to the FBI. To date, we have seen no indication that any action has been taken, which is disheartening to say the least, if only because we may very well see history repeating itself."

9. "The sad truth is that almost every major state-based intelligence organisation is heavily compromised in the performance of its duties. As a Canadian operative ("John Doe") himself testified earlier in this discussion, even the BND is subject to arbitrary, politically inspired stand-down orders when it comes to breaking up Mossad subversion of sovereign nations. We know that American public service agencies (and to a lesser degree the British intelligence community) have been infiltrated top to bottom with Mossad and Hidden Hand assets and sympathisers, and that the American media deliberately fails to report this type of subversion.

Why is that? We know that newspaper and media owners themselves are already wealthy and well-disposed toward the Hidden Hand. Well, you need to ask yourselves about the vast sums of cash siphoned off from defence procurement contracts in various budgets that are not properly audited by your Congress, such that said sums of money are given the designation "slush and hush" funds, managed by unaccountable financiers in the City of London. Editors and journalists often enjoy a lifestyle far in excess of their normal salary - just for turning a blind eye."

There you have it. It doesn't make for pleasant reading. But we mustn't be caught napping just because it is the season to be jolly. In the remote chance that this is not a hoax, the Internet may be responsible for saving a lot of lives.

Merry Christmas!

-------------------
Henry Makow Ph.D. is the inventor of the board game Scruples and the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing Femanism and the New World Order are archived on his site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys receiving your comments at Henryatsavethemales.ca Some may be posted using first names only.

for whatever it's worth: my grand-daughter works at 18.Dec.2004 22:15

The PENTAGON in Washington, DC

and she's implied "something big" is going to happen right after Christmas--just what is the ?

will they believe? 18.Dec.2004 22:43

shaker

The way that you figure
it's all in my head,
like a child's dreams of demons,
restless in bed,
running to you frightened:
the devil's right behind!
I'm not easily convinced
that it's all in my mind.

For The Record... 18.Dec.2004 23:04

jlhpdx

In reference to the comment about Russian missiles being on alert:
This has more than one meaning in the Russian military. Generally when Russian forces or military equipment are prepared for imminent use, the term used is "active alert" or "heightened alert." When Russian forces or equipment are activated or placed in a routinely active status, Russians often use the term "alert" to identify their operational status, particularly when identifying the operational status of missiles and ships.

So it could mean a couple of things. It's difficult to tell from the article.

this is 18.Dec.2004 23:07

SPOOKY

as hell! You don't really believe "they" would do this now with out over the internet do you?

They wouldn't realy do this... 18.Dec.2004 23:24

Sean4489

No. Of course they wouldn't. Just like they wouldn't steal the election or fly airplanes into the world trade center. There are hundreds of websites accusing the Bush admin. of organizing both of these and no one in the mainstream media=general public has said peep. Do you think they would stop this just because some "anarchists" and "conspiracy theorists" were talking about it a couple of days before it happened. Hell we are probably terrorists in on it. In fact, they could probably round-up everybody who posted on the net to determine if they know anything. If this is planned it is going to happen.

Peace

I think you're right there "Sean4489" 19.Dec.2004 00:35

whatever will bee will bee

as the simpleton sheepeople just dont care one way or the other...it's all the same to them!

pull yourselves together people 19.Dec.2004 01:01

and stop this madness

We are missing:

1. Facts
2. Facts
3. Facts

This is all hearsay and unsubstantiated allegation. It's not even worth a comment except for the fact that out of 15 comments, a cool head is not to be found.

Shovel this load into the compost bin.

Whenever there is bad news 19.Dec.2004 01:16

slave

Ever notice that when there is bad news...something comes down the pike that quiets the storm.

Stolen Election=iran(we didn't buy it)=another tape(didn't buy it)=anthrax(anohter loser)=hmmmm, what do people seem to believe the most? (that's allot thrown at us in a week or two-it's usually used sparingly)

A catastrophic event like a new pearl harbor.

No matter what, it will be bush's fault, just like the first time. If it happens again, it will be to enact martial law...not, "hey, let's rally together now, we're in this together"....most won't believe, but it will be too late, you'll say, "hey, I thought this was America"....welcome to gitmo.

Then we'll really know how the Germans, "let it happen right in front of their eyes".

We were setup from the beginning. A long time ago.

US PsyOps not even trying? 19.Dec.2004 03:47

Guess they want to go home for the holidays, too.

An above poster asked how they could do this when this information is on the internet. So I looked for it, and found the below article.

MosNews from April 6, 2004
Security Agency Warned of Terror Attack Ahead of Water Park Disaster


The Federal Security Service (FSB) warned the director of Moscow's Transvaal water park of a possible terrorist act two months before the roof collapsed killing 28 people.

The head of the contractor company that took part in the construction of the water park's roof, Sergei Kiselev, was quoted by the Gazeta newspaper on Tuesday as saying that the FSB had given the director >>a document outlining a possible terrorist act on December 27, 2003<<. After that, additional security measures were taken, with additional guards employed at the park. However, the extra precautions were stopped in mid-January. The roof of the Transvaal water park collapsed on February 14.

Meanwhile, the Moscow prosecutor's office has already excluded the possibility of a terrorist attack as a reason for the disaster. An official announcement by the investigators has still to be made, but a design fault remains the only explanation of the incident. Kiselev has declined to sign a preliminary protocol, declaring that it contained contradictions and that the experts had been denied access to some information. He added that the warning in December and some other facts could cause the expert commission to analyze the information more attentively.

FWIW, I THINK I SMELL DISINFO THERE 19.Dec.2004 06:25

Repost

Most of the stuff posted where this came from is disgusting bullshit, but the person who wrote this is consistantly one of the few posters there who is not disgustingly insane. He/she doesn't claim to know anything about this, but he/she does offer some interesting observations.

FWIW, I THINK I SMELL DISINFO THERE
 http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=61528
Posted By: hobie
Date: Saturday, 18 December 2004, 11:15 p.m.

In Response To: Another Warning from German Intelligence? (HMakow)

Hi, Henry -

Yours is the second posting of this information. I certainly understand why you'd feel it necessary to post it. I probably would, too - and I thank you for doing it.

That said, I'm sniffing disinfo here, I believe. Like you, I can't quite imagine what would be served by it - but there are inconsistencies in the information that are hard to explain in any other way, or so it seems to me.

My thoughts are like so:

: It sounds as if it'll make 911 look like rather a fun day.
: How do I know? ....

: I'm a former employee for the German foreign intelligence
: service, the Bundesnachrichtendienst.

: Paul Wolfowitz will authorize the detonation of a nuclear
: payload in the Houston area on December 27, 2004. The
: Hidden Hand network (Mossad/al-Qaeda/SAS) of which he is
: the nominal controller has verified in advance every aspect
: of operational integrity - a failsafe job with zero chance
: of discovery.

The above three paragraphs sound very much like the many "virus hoax" e-mails that make their way around Internet.

The second paragraph establishes the bona fides; the third paragraph establishes how "certain" it all is. It's equivalent to saying, "This announcement came today from IBM and AOL; they say no current anti-virus software is of any use against this new virus."

: We know that the Wolfowitz network has concealed a
: remote-controlled nuclear payload in the Houston area. None
: of our intercepts give us exact coordinates. We have also
: heard the same code system used in regard to Atlanta and
: Dallas, although not with the same frequency. "

That's an assertion without support of its own, used to support the other assertions. Possible? Plausible? Sure - but it can also be used to put us into a trance of believing whatever the writer is saying.

: 1."I can also tell you that the US military expect to
: lose the war against the resistance movements in
: Iraq...President Bush is deliberately destroying your
: military."

Personally, I find that concept unlikely to be true. As an element of disinformation, however, it has a certain "shock value" that, again, entrances us to accept the validity of other things this writer is saying.

: 2. "I also know that the Americans are "hoping"
: proactively for a "terrorist" attack in Europe
: (especially Germany) to get European sentiment behind the
: Bush policy.

This statement is too non-specific to convey any real meaning. Who exactly are the pointed-to "Americans" who are hoping for this?

: If the CIA goes ahead with this plan, they will be found out
: and the rage against America will intensify. It would mean
: the end of diplomatic relations between my country and
: yours."

Also doubtful. CIA has just been "house cleaned", some of us think, with the arrival of Porter Goss. If _we_ are thinking that, surely so are other intelligence agencies around the world. The absence of any mention whatsoever of "the new CIA head" seems an odd omission in a communique of this sort, at this time.

: A lot of this chatter can be accessed by intercepting the
: Echelon system, the raw information output of which is
: processed by the NSA in America and the Royal Signals in
: Britain (as a side point, the Echelon system is no longer
: reliable or efficient because it doesn't use intelligent
: algorithms).

(Another "Hi, I know a lot, so what I'm saying must be true" statement.)

: What I rely on is good old-fashioned telephony interception,
: but on a software platform that unencrypts communications
: between the various US military installations and CIA
: stations dotted around Europe.

(Might be true - or might be "buzzword hash".)

: 5. " To 9-11. I personally (and many within the German
: intelligence services) believe that 9-11 was an internal
: operation planned and executed by an extreme pro-Israel
: faction within the American government and intelligence
: services. The technicalities evident in both planning,
: timing and precision flying point to the use of
: technologies not available to so-called terrorist groups.

Gee, ya think...? :)

: We believe that the relationship between the so-called
: al-Qaeda group (really the Muslim Brotherhood which is
: financed by the British) and the Israeli intelligence
: services is very complicated, but there is an alliance of
: convenience. We ran a personality profile on some of the
: alleged hijackers, analysed handwriting and applied
: linguistic methodologies, and thus believe that Atta was a
: Mossad asset.

(hehe) I'm glad they "applied methodologies" - but I'm not hearing "substance" in that paragraph.

: Neither the Americans nor the Pakistanis have any intention
: of breaking the Afghan rebel forces, as they will need them
: to become more extreme and regain the cou"ntry at a future
: date.

(I find that statement doubtful.)

: It seems that a grouping of international corporate entities
: and financial institutions have decided that America at
: this late stage is only good for projecting military force,
: and so it will use up American resources to advance its own
: agenda until there is not much left of American power and
: credibility.

I think that if the writer were "real", that paragraph would be worded very differently. He's made it into a "maybe", a "suggestion" of something, as though he didn't previously know anything about the idea, and as though his agency or other agencies haven't a clue about "who" the entities and institutions are.

: We therefore made an unprecedented decision to communicate
: these findings directly to the FBI. To date, we have seen
: no indication that any action has been taken, which is
: disheartening to say the least, if only because we may very
: well see history repeating itself."

Hmm; how can I put this...I don't "feel reality" in that paragraph.

: Why is that? We know that newspaper and media owners
: themselves are already wealthy and well-disposed toward the
: Hidden Hand. Well, you need to ask yourselves about the
: vast sums of cash siphoned off from defence procurement
: contracts in various budgets that are not properly audited
: by your Congress, such that said sums of money are given
: the designation "slush and hush" funds, managed
: by unaccountable financiers in the City of London. Editors
: and journalists often enjoy a lifestyle far in excess of
: their normal salary - just for turning a blind eye."

The writer thinks he's gently breaking the news to us that our Media have not reported the true facts - and that it's solely for reasons of "personal comfort"; that "the love of money" would be sufficient to allow editors and journalists to let millions of folks meet an untimely end, without hint or warning.

All in all, Henry, I'm getting a sense that the writer is not who he claims to be, but is creating and embellishing his cyber-persona out of thin air.

I vote for me to be right. :) Let's hope I can say that at least once more, after December 27th.

: There you have it. It doesn't make for pleasant reading. But
: we mustn't be caught napping just because it is the season
: to be jolly. In the remote chance that this is not a hoax,
: the Internet may be responsible for saving a lot of lives.

: Merry Christmas!

Thanks, Henry; Merry Christmas to you, too. :)

--hobie

hmmmmm. 19.Dec.2004 07:30

shayne

I gotta say it man. The stuff about 'british financiers' smacks of Larouchite dribble. And this german guy is not using language of the sort you'd expect an intelligence operative to use.

Sorry, I call bullshit. And thats a GOOD thing.

However if shit goes nuts on the 27th...... I'll probably be running in circles yelling "Ah fuck! Gubernment did this! fuck fuck fuck!". But chances are I'll be just recovering from Xmass hangovers instead. :)

add to all this...the latest installment of 19.Dec.2004 09:47

THE VOICE OF THE WHITE HOUSE

The Voice of the White House December 17, 2004

TBR News.org - December 17, 2004

December 15, 2004: " A number of interesting items here. We have a legion of so-called "intelligence agencies" reporting to White House staff on all subjects of interest to them and national security, in that order. Most of them go off all over the place like a Special Olympics track meet but recently, we have seen a certain amount of agreement on the issue of Muslim terrorism aimed at the US. All agree that really terrible acts are unquestionably being planned, ranging from the use of so-called "suitcase bombs" to bioterrorism.

And is there a solution, besides nuking all of the Arab states? Yes, our agencies all report that in their considered opinions, threatened terrorism could stop in one day... on one condition. The condition is that the United States step back from its unconditional, and often blind, support of the far right Likudists now in power in Israel, step back and become strictly neutral. By that, we do not sell, or in the case of Israel, give, weapons or support to either side.

Washington said this at the beginning of the Republic and the advice is as good today as it was then. I have read paper after paper stating that the sole reason we are now under attack is our unconditional support of Israel, a state that has no scruples about spying on us and when it suits them, attacking us militarily ( the USS Liberty is a prime example). They can do nothing for us but a great deal against us and we are now seen as hand puppets for the Likud. All of the top neocons are Likudists and many are actually Israeli citizens who always put that country's interests ahead of anything else.

The result of this buckling under to political and economic pressure is that we will for a certainty be attacked domestically and probably with terrible results. The other caveat is that we get the Hell out of Iraq and leave the Middle East strictly alone.

Another suggestion from three agencies is that we stop needling Putin and trying to rip off Russian oil. We will not get away with it and we need Russia far more than it needs us. It is obvious that major US oil interests, with the eager help of the Bush people, are not going to grab control of the oil and gas of that country. Better, everyone says, to make peace than fight a permanent war against this country, a war that can only increase.

Of course Our Beloved Leader is so narrow minded and so much under the control of the weirdos from the neocon movement that such an idea would never reach his hairy ears and if it did, he would have trouble making any sense out of it. Still, there it is and if you think about it, remember the Bible verse about taking a dog by the ears.:"
www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1258.htm

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" author: could be Atlanta, Dallas or Houston" 19.Dec.2004 09:51

Bundlestiff

Why is this info not found on the IMC sites for Atlanta or Houston?
It seems they might be a little interested in this.

I have grandkids in Atlanta Houston and Dallas (actually Ft. Worth)

I think THE VOICE OF THE WHITE HOUSE 19.Dec.2004 10:12

is on to something here

Powell 'Pushed Out' By Bush
For Seeking To Rein In Israel
By Charles Laurence in New York and Philip Sherwell
The Telegraph - UK
12-19-4

Colin Powell, the outgoing US secretary of state, was given his marching orders after telling President George W Bush that he wanted greater power to confront Israel over the stalled Middle East peace process.

Although Mr Powell's departure was announced on November 15, his letter of resignation was dated November 11, the day he had a meeting with Mr Bush.

According to White House officials, at the meeting Mr Powell was not asked to stay on and gave no hints that he would do so. Briefing reporters later, he referred to "fulsome discussions" - diplomatic code for disagreements.

"The clincher came over the Mid-East peace process," said a recently-retired state department official.

"Powell thought he could use the credit he had banked as the president's 'good cop' in foreign policy to rein in Ariel Sharon [Israel's prime minister] and get the peace process going. He was wrong."

Bob Woodward, the veteran Washington reporter who was granted unprecedented access to the first Bush administration for his books Bush At War and Plan Of Attack, said last week that Mr Powell had been "dreaming" if he thought that he could stay on.

Vice-president Dick Cheney and his fellow hardliner, John Bolton, an under-secretary of state to Mr Powell, are both understood to have lobbied Mr Bush to replace him.

They wanted to make Iran's alleged nuclear bomb aspirations and support for Islamic terror groups the foreign policy priority for the new administration and believed that Mr Powell would back away from a confrontational approach.

The two are frustrated that Britain, France and Germany are still seeking a diplomatic deal with Teheran rather than backing an immediate UN Security Council resolution condemning Iran and threatening sanctions.

Mr Powell's final pitch to remain in office for at least another year was made during Tony Blair's visit to Washington nine days ago, The Telegraph has learned. Earlier indications had been that he intended to step down after enduring four years of clashes with the office of Mr Cheney and the Pentagon under Donald Rumsfeld.

Friends of Mr Powell later briefed journalists that he had changed his mind because he saw the chance of progress on the peace process and wanted to see through the Iraqi elections.

Mr Powell is to be replaced by Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser and close confidante of Mr Bush.

Mr Bolton's predicted promotion as her deputy is a further signal that the president wants to conduct foreign policy without the "moderating" influence and popular public face of Mr Powell.

Prominent neo-conservatives in Washington make no secret of their desire for regime change in Teheran, although few believe that a full-scale military operation is a viable strategy.

Instead, the emphasis is on establishing economic sanctions as a means to squeeze the ruling mullahs. There is also the option that the US may tacitly back Israeli air strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities.

The overhaul of the CIA under its new director, Porter Goss, a recent Bush appointee, is also intended to remove critics of America's foreign policy.

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Paul Wolfowitz tries to call 19.Dec.2004 10:30

Houston, Texas

[white noise]
Houston come in,over!
Houston we have a problem over!
HOUSTON!!
HOUSTON are you there,over?
HOUSTON?
[white noise]

fear fear fear fear fear fear fear... 19.Dec.2004 11:03

this thing here

in a perfectly formed culture of fear, which this country has been since the morning of 9-11-01, citizens' minds are nothing but mounds of wet clay in the hands of any and all clever manipulators. massage the mounds of clay just right with the tool of fear, and watch us squirm and writhe into any contorted, illogical, conflicted, insane, or harmful position they could want...

missing from this twisted culture of fear is the defining question: what is there to really be afraid of? and what is total bullshit? (anyone have "the" answer? i sure as hell don't...). but without that kind of effort at discernment, regardless if it actually comes up a with a specific answer every single time, we are mentally insane puppets...

what other virgin territories are left in all of human existence for our "leaders" to trample, defile, destroy and make into battlefields? the bottom of the ocean, outer space, and the space inside people's heads. the mind is the ultimate battlefield...

perhaps these words from 19.Dec.2004 11:22

Sender, Berl & Sons, Inc.

have some revelance in all this??????????????????????????????????????????????
rec'd this in this morning's e-mails...maybe it has some bearing on all this?
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Dear Friend,

Sender, Berl & Sons Inc.'s public service mission has been to help shed light on an evil design that has undermined much good that arose since the end of World War II. The irony of dealing with matters of light and truth is that the communities we address would have to admit to their own complicity in their defeat. The American people would have to admit that their government has been hijacked. Far better to close one's eyes and focus on directing one's attention to hedonistic goals and values. The people of the Land of Israel rather not confront the issues attendant to the biblical obligations of their nation and therefore find it more preferable to stick their heads in the sand as their nation sinks than face the realities of the hijacking of their own government and sovereignty as a nation. We have done our darn best to shed light on the truth and explain why what is -- including the dire dangers we face -- has come to pass for us. However, very few want to listen until the blessings are lost and then and only then when in misery do men want to reflect on what caused their plight. Only then are they willing to acknowledge truth, to escape the darkness that surrounds them. The good news is that you are not among these men and women. In that regard, we trust that you will be blessed and carry protections not shared by those who do not give a thought to their own complicity as to what may stand before us tomorrow, denying our children a better future, a sacrifice that all previous generations have afforded their own children. This generation having much of it all is the one that stands lame and indifferent to denying the next and the one after that what has been offered them. And to be clear, we are not talking about an inheritance of wealth. We are talking about a country worth living in with our neighbors and fellow citizens: one representing a worthy ethic: a nation united under G-d, one genuinely committed to equal opportunity, fairness and justice for all -- one not creating a noble class committed to the contrary to preserving their own wealth and power in perpetuity and having the tax burden put on the backs of those less fortunate than themselves to bear it.

Let me note here that the future is now dependent on how the NWO decides to proceed with China. I have noted that global financial markets are showing high stress reflective of the deep fear and uncertainty as to where we are headed. The USA is now but a tool for the NWO. The best course of course would be for them to put back on their patriotic hats to neutralize China's own unfettered course for world domination and control. It must be a bitter irony for the NWO leadership to see China as we interpreted not only plug the NWO agenda for China but quickly turn the tables on the Bush/NWO/oil cabal. Thus if it is a really bitter pill to swallow there is nuclear war ahead and SenderBerl has concluded that it has a high probability of launching not via Iran or Syria but a preemptive strike against North Korea knowing that China will intervene (the reason for Chinese troops amassed all along the Korean border).

The good news here is that there should be enough smart people at the table to stop those wishing direct military conflict: the most powerful succinct argument is that if Bush could not succeed in Iraq and Venezuela, how can any intelligent person think he will succeed in starting a nuclear war. It's not a video game we are talking about. Moreover, SenderBerl long said China has a mole deep within the US government. How do you think Saddam knew when to throw in the towel; how China knew to advise Saddam to dislodge Iraq from WMD not to say refrain from using them against US troops?

Look, the NWO is playing against an Opponent far greater than China. We the American people should boot them out of the country but absent our ability to do anything for years against what is in front of our noses, G-d, we thought, as is proven the case to date, will not allow the NWO to grasp any victory and for that reason you should have little question that if there is war that the consequences to us will be dark and dire. So let's hope that they will show a little sanity if not recognize that they have everything any sane man would want and to let go their obsessive need to confront G-d and to enslave us and the rest of the world. However, these men collectively are like Pharaoh. It takes numerous signs and ultimately the deaths of their own for them to bend to G-d's course and admit to the fact that G-d not themselves determine the fate and future of man.

The closing public service page has been completed. If it is worthy of your recommendation, direct others to it.

Warmest wishes for the holidays and New Year.

Joseph Ehrlich
Sender, Berl & Sons Inc.

PS. This holiday season consider renting a 1954 movie: Forbidden Planet. High technology without requisite moral elevation and discipline can lead to extinction of an entire species.

a regular contributor to www.surfingtheapocalypse.com has this to say about 19.Dec.2004 13:39

December 27, 2004

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Posted By: midnight_falls <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 19 December 2004, 12:33 p.m.

I too often have hunches about things... Very specific things. It is the kind of intuitive perception that works like being in the woods in the dark on a cloudy night and trying to find your way to camp by following the smell of the camp fire. Hopefully the wind isn't too strong or changing direction too often. Hopefully it is a light breeze and you can identify what it is that is cooking on the camp fire. You follow the smell until you can see a flicker of light in the distance. As you get closer you try to identify people and other items at the site to make sure it is your camp site and not someone else's.

I've been following a particular hunch for months. Of course a picture is worth a thousand words, but who easily has the thousand exact words needed to describe the things we see. Sometimes the details are so big I can't put words around them. You would have to record the visions like you were filming a movie in order to get all the details and watch it over and over again to get an understanding of what you've seen. Even so, there are very specific details that aren't like words at all but more like a sense of smell kind of thing, like identifying a fragrance in the air. It is also like identifying some ones problem when they are acting out of the ordinary.

I felt something very out of the ordinary when I woke up this morning. It is in the direction of the hunch I've been following for these past few months. There was a drastic change in the proximity of the coming events. It was like traveling to a destination and knowing the night before exactly how many miles you had to go to reach the destination when you continue the journey in the morning, but when you wake up in the morning you discover you are a thousand miles closer than you know you should be.

When I sense changes like this I never take them lightly. The big question is: What demonstrative, drastic change has taken place, overnight, that has altered my perception.

I ask this with all the goodness of my heart, please, everyone, be on your toes and be ready a hole the size of the grand canyon to open up in front of you in your life's travels. I don't think this is going to be just a bump in the road for most of us.

And remember, I had this feeling before I ever looked at my computer this morning. When I read the post about Dec. 27 it really, really bothered me (and few things I read ever do) and it only added to what I was already feeling.

Remember this unfounded panic from last year? 20.Dec.2004 05:06

fuck this.

About 14 months ago, everybody was reporting in on this website that planes were on the move. Everywhere, Germany, Portland, NY, SC, Everywhere! SOMETHING BIG is happening. My brother lives near and USAF Base and he said that all the planes just left, My Aunt's Uncles, Cousins, Gay lover, told his best friend that He lives in Halifax and there is a steady stream of Airplane's headed somewhere. My girlfriend's friend's friend is in the Army in Germany and he said the sun is blotted out of the sky because of all of the aircraft flying east..

It was insane listening to all of it for over a week..


What was it?

Bush had instructed Rumsfeld to make long term plans for troop rotation and leave in Iraq. They had 200,000 troops that needed to be given 30 days leave (vacation) for the holidays and they needed to rotate in more troops.

Moving 200,000 troops back and forth over a 4 month period to the US, and or Germany takes many aircraft.

However nobody wanted to consider the simplest answer on this website. Everybody was sooooooooo fucking sure some new war was going to start they would have bet their life savings, if they had a life savings to bet.

There life savings 20.Dec.2004 18:23

Sean4489

And the fact that they have no life savings is just more proof of how stupid they all are. I mean only people who live there life to accumulate wealth are worthy of anything. Fucking poor people and their stupid ideas.

Peace

this is an unbelievable pile of 20.Dec.2004 22:03

bullshit

why isn't is composed? I know Paul Wolfowitz and he is not this kind of man!

well now! 20.Dec.2004 22:24

Paul Wolfowitz

is "a caring guy" just like his boss, Rumsfeld and since Bush told you that, it's gotta be true!

blah blah 26.Dec.2004 22:42

deadfairy

screw all of you..how can ya talk as though people are not going to die if this does occur..and for one i dont believe it..is a bunch of bull..so screw the perosn who started this mess

spin or truth? 21.Mar.2006 23:10

an extremely disappinted american

this could be spin. but in view of what has happened till this date, both in the us and elsewhere in the world, the suspicious nature of those unhappy coincidents, it seems highly possible that a small bunch of powerful people are using their power and wealth to pursus their personal agendas at the expense of their countrymen as well as the whole world.