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More motive to destroy WTCs on 9-11: $120B gold debt due THAT DAY; & wargame software,more

JS: Our guest today, Karl Schwarz, author of the book, "One Way Ticket to Crawford Texas. Folks, if you want information that will, as I say, curl your nose hairs, the book itself is $24.95. It is 832 pages long. That is available on the website  http://www.rbnlive.com

"And it's not actually six articles, it's nine articles now because we continue to have witnesses come forward and just putting some incredible information in our laps."

"There was apparently a 300% increase in the insurance on the World Trade Center towers in June and July of 2001. I mean they increased the total insurance payable by 300%, at least. We also have put some information in Spitzer's hands that on 9/11 there was a $120 billion debt due (with a B) and that was tied to a gold collateralization and a Brady Bond deal and evidently it didn't close. Our sources have told us that who was closing that transaction was CANTOR FITZGERALD [almost totally lost their whole financial staff there, more than 100 financiers--only finance company experiencing such "loss", others pretty much OK] and that's the firm that took the biggest hit. They basically took a 767 right in their face."

KS: One of those hard drives was 99% plus recovered. And there was a file on that hard drive, titled "911. And I'm thinking that that may be computer from Cantor Fritzgerald and it may have had information. Now they claim, well we turned it over to the appropriate investigating authorities. And I said, well if you're talking about the DOJ and FBI, they are not going to investigate themselves. We have been trying to get them to release that same information to Elliot Spitzer because I think there is a smoking gun right there."
What you will find below:

COMMENTS: The gold angle is very interesting--and rewarding--to follow out as a motive. It takes in the issues of the artificial lowering of gold prices (to keep the U.S. paper economy afloat against the global mass rush to gold), (2) it takes in the gold heist foiled on 9-11 that was going on simultaneously in the basement of the WTC's COMEX exchange, foiled because WTC2 was brought down early, and they escaped--leaving the gold in a unmanned truck that was already halfway down a security tunnel, (3) and it takes in this information about why Cantor Fitsgerald was the only one to take the serious hit--Cantor Fitzgerald owners likely assured by this 9-11 alibi that they would get to postpone for a while the required payout, to keep them afloat. 9-11 was in short a win for them, (4) it takes into federal evidence of court suits against major U.S. banks for gold price manipulation, etc.--paper evidence destroyed in the federal offices in the WTCs/WTC7, etc.

"GIVE US YOUR OIL, OR IT'S AL-QAIDA FOR YOU." "Now, if you go back to about, '92 and, '93, in that range, any of your listeners out there can do a simple research: the Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce. Go look for the name "Mega Oil" and look for the name Gary Best. And they will have a whole let better idea what al Qaeda is and where some of the terrorism is emanating from. We've been operating out of Azerbaijan for years trying to force the Caspian Basin companies into our camp..."[by hook or by crook]

PLUS: NORAD WARGAMES SOFTWARE WRITER; NEXT, SAME WRITER DECIDES TO DO A DETAILED MAP OF HUDSON VALLY, NEW YORK, IN MAY OF 2001, SAME MONTH CHENEY GIVEN F.E.M.A. Oversight in event of "terror strikes"--the NORAD software writer wants a detailed map from May 2001 of the VERY PATH OF THE future FIRST PLANE ON 9-11: "...we had a source come to us out of Canada with some very interesting information regarding a software company that developed the software for the war games that were being played that day....But grab this, in addition to developing that software, they also developed another software package that does GIS Mapping and they signed a contract with the State of New York, in May of 2001, and they started their contract that summer doing GIS mapping in the lower Hudson Valley area. To do GIS mapping accurately, you have to have a base station. And that base station, under current technology can guarantee the accuracy of what you're doing to within two centimeters. I mean that's why our cruise missiles are so devastatingly accurate, our satellite guided bombsI mean the technology available is there but what we had suspected is that somewhere somebody was conducting the type of GIS mapping that would give the accuracy and even put the base station in place to where they could pull off 9/11 with UAVs." [Unmanned aerial vehicles]CUTE THAT THE 9-11 NORAD WARGAMES SOFTWARE PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE TO MAP OUT THE DETAILS OF THE HUDSON VALLY TO THE NEAREST CENTIMER IN 2001, EH?

ODD FEMA PHOTOGRAPHED PLANE PART AT PENTAGON IDENTIFIED: A3 Sky Warrior: "Well, the part that is laying there in the FEMA pictures outside the Pentagon is definitely not a 757 component....Somebody has gone through the internet and done content blocking to where if you actually know the part number and you are actually looking for a diagram picture, you know like an auto-cad drawing or looking for a photograph of this particular item to prove that it was not a 757 that hit the Pentagon. We had to get the help of some people out of Russia and France and Germany and Japan to go around content blocks on the U.S. search engines and we finally found the photograph....It is what is called a front compressor front hub assembly.in fact, there's two types. One of them, they use it on the, what's called an A3 Sky Warrior. And the A3 Sky Warrior has had, at last count, four different types of jets [engines] on them. But some of it is older technology going all the way back to the Allison J33, and Allison J71, which all of those are burned up years ago. It doesn't even pay to try to repair them anymore. And what this is is either a Pratt and Witney 57 or a Pratt and Witney JT8D. Now that is an engine that is primarily used on earlier versions of the 737. But it is also used on an A3 in it's current model, current version. And here is what this says, this is just a little footnote, underneath this picture we gave Spitzer it said your reliable source for turbine engine fan blade repairs is now providing total overhaul capability of JT8D fan hub assembly repair. And I'm not going to say the name of the company. Spitzer's office is looking into this. This is the only approved source to overhaul both blades and hub assemblies an FAA approved shop. JS: So what was it that hit the Pentagon? Any guesses here?; KS: I think it was an A3 Sky Warrior. " [Global Hawk additionally has an Allison though...]

ON THE UPCOMING SERIES OF ARTICLES: So, what we have here, we've got an incredibly screwed-up foreign policy and we're basically being sold a pig in the poke. And now we've got Patriot Act II. I don't know if you just saw this. They have just announced that they've struck a deal on trying to get the Intelligence Reform through.

And my first article - we gave Spitzer six articles. And the first of those six articles broke Saturday morning on Online Journal, called, "Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble, Part 1- the 911 Commission. And what I'm doing is exposing first the Commission, then I'm exposing who's doing business in the Caspian Basin and who they are represented by which - huge conflicts on the 911 Commission.

And then we are moving on back in time, we are going to move all the way ack to 1989.

And it's not actually six articles, it's nine articles now because we continue to have witnesses come forward and just putting some incredible information in our laps. So take it from there.

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Interview With Karl Schwarz
From John Stadtmiller Radio Show
Dec. 7, 2004
12-8-4





Interview in progress... talking about Sibel Edmonds, who plans to give a press conference on Thursday, Dec. 9.

KS: "...and after that, she felt like she would be able to talk a lot more openly about what the nature of the appeal is and what the argument is over. Okay, and the lady has some devastating exposes,. We actually talked to her before they put the gag order down on her, trying to interview her for my book. And the only thing she could confirm for me, you know we are all under the impression that we got attacked by the Saudis, and all these translations were in Arabic. The smoking gun translation is not in Arabic, it is in the Azerbaijani language. She is fluent in Turkish and Azerbaijani because that's where her parents are from. She is very functional in Farsi, which is the Iranian language. About all she can do with Arabic is read. She was not part of the Arabic translation team.

Now, if you go back to about, '92 and, '93, in that range, any of your listeners out there can do a simple research: the Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce. Go look for the name "Mega Oil" and look for the name Gary Best. And they will have a whole let better idea what al Qaeda is and where some of the terrorism is emanating from. We've been operating out of Azerbaijan for years trying to force the Caspian Basin companies into our camp in whatever means. You know, first they use persuasion, then they use bribes, then they hit people if they have to and if that doesn't work, they use military force. I mean this is pretty much the progression. What we've seen here is a situation where military force was applied because somebody wouldn't roll over and that somebody was Bridas and the Taliban. Everybody else had fallen into their camp.

So, about two weeks, I had a former Bridas executive show up out of the blue. His daughter contacted me. We have now notified Elliot Spitzer who that person is, where he can be located and found. And John, it's even worse that Brisard wrote about or what I wrote about as far as what's really been going on over there. Even right now in the Ukraine, this hub-bub over the election, is mainly about the fact that we want a pipeline through the Ukraine to Europe. We also want a pipeline through Georgia and into the Black Sea so we don't have to ship it all the way down through Pakistan. You know, run the risk of putting all of that pipeline down through there. They are just going to run parts of it. They still want the westerly route. And when we start dissecting into the Ukraine vote crisis, you've got the International Republican Institute, what's known as the IRI. You have the NDI, which is the Democrat Institute International. And then you also have George Soros over there, all trying to make this go their way.

So, what we have here, we've got an incredibly screwed-up foreign policy and we're basically being sold a pig in the poke. And now we've got Patriot Act II. I don't know if you just saw this. They have just announced that they've struck a deal on trying to get the Intelligence Reform through. And my first article - we gave Spitzer six articles. And the first of those six articles broke Saturday morning on Online Journal, called, "Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble, Part 1- the 911 Commission. And what I'm doing is exposing first the Commission, then I'm exposing who's doing business in the Caspian Basin and who they are represented by which - huge conflicts on the 911 Commission. And then we are moving on back in time, we are going to move all the way back to 1989. And it's not actually six articles, it's nine articles now because we continue to have witnesses come forward and just putting some incredible information in our laps. So take it from there.

JS: Well I was just going to say and I have some information for the listeners. Your book, we just proofed the thing and it is going to be back with the publisher tomorrow or Wednesday morning. That little puppy is coming off the press this week.

KS: Good. It's about time. It's like I said, one time we interviewed, I said my second book is going to be what it's taken to get this book out. It's been incredible.

JS: Well now that I - see I've never published a book before, so

KS: Well neither have I.

JS: So, it's been a learning experience. Now that I know what I know, at least we've got a good printer for it.

KS: You and I have learned one thing, we know not to go into the publishing business. Right?

JS: Or if you do, don't have a day job.

KS: Right. It's amazing. But, I tell you, I can go over today what we've put in Spitzer's lap and it is some serious, hard-hitting information that he is going to have to do something about. And I spent most of the weekend going around and around with 9/11 CitizensWatch people, at least one guy there, Kyle Hence. I was hoping they would take that to the proper authorities which was the Manhattan District Attorney, that's who actually has jurisdiction over murder in Manhattan. It's not Elliot Spitzer.

JS: Right

KS: But I think Spitzer will do the right thing, now that he sees what the picture is. I can kind of walk people through this today if you want to go there. I mean each of these six articles are very hard-hitting and the three that we haven't put in his hands, they are actually in the editor's hands right now. He's going through and double-checking everything, making sure that all the facts are straight, the links are straight.

JS: Give us the body of this information and Spitzer, again, is who in New York?

KS: He is the attorney general for the State of New York. They nicknamed him the Sheriff of Wall Street. And he is the guy who has been bashing them and affecting some serious changes in corporate governance and also in how they handle their trading in Washington and also in New York. And it's across the broad. He's addressing insurance fraud, securities fraud. We put an interesting insurance fraud in his hands regarding 9/11. There is a German attorney who has found documents that's one of those things where you have to be careful of whether these documents were planted or are they legitimate. We've just have to get to the bottom of that as we go through discovery.

There was apparently a 300% increase in the insurance on the World Trade Center towers in June and July of 2001. I mean they increased the total insurance payable by 300%, at least. We also have put some information in Spitzer's hands that on 9/11 there was a $120 billion debt due (with a B) and that was tied to a gold collateralization and a Brady Bond deal and evidently it didn't close. Our sources have told us that who was closing that transaction was Cantor Fitzgerald and that's the firm that took the biggest hit. They basically took a 767 right in their face.

Now, over the weekend, and I had not heard this, you know you don't have time to read everything that going on with 9/11 in Washington D.C. but we got contacted over the weekend by a company out of Germany. Do you remember when they found computers in the WTC rubble?

JS: Yes

KS: One of those hard drives was 99% plus recovered. And there was a file on that hard drive, titled "911. And I'm thinking that that may be computer from Cantor Fritzgerald and it may have had information. Now they claim, well we turned it over to the appropriate investigating authorities. And I said, well if you,re talking about the DOJ and FBI, they are not going to investigate themselves. We have been trying to get them to release that same information to Elliot Spitzer because I think there is a smoking gun right there.

We also have disclosed to Elliot, we had a source come to us out of Canada with some very interesting information regarding a software company that developed the software for the war games that were being played that day.

JS: And some have suggested, Karl, that because these war games were being played that that's why NORAD did not take this seriously even as it was happening. They thought it was a hoax.

KS: Yeah, but we now know who developed that software. But grab this, in addition to developing that software, they also developed another software package that does GIS Mapping and they signed a contract with the State of New York, in May of 2001, and they started their contract that summer doing GIS mapping in the lower Hudson Valley area. To do GIS mapping accurately, you have to have a base station. And that base station, under current technology can guarantee the accuracy of what you,re doing to within two centimeters. I mean that's why our cruise missiles are so devastatingly accurate, our satellite guided bombsI mean the technology available is there but what we had suspected is that somewhere somebody was conducting the type of GIS mapping that would give the accuracy and even put the base station in place to where they could pull off 9/11 with UAVs. [Unmanned aerial vehicles]

JS: It has to be something like that, Karl, because these people that were, at best, novice pilots could never have pulled off the type of maneuvers that it took to slam these planes into the World Trade Center..

KS: I heard some of them couldn't hardly even drive a car.

JS: Well, that's true. We'll have to break. We'll be right back.

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JS: We've been informed our international shortwave audience is missing this, Karl. This timing of timing I really hate this on the shortwave because they changed frequencies on me and that just happened last week. And then people tune in the following week and the signal is not there. Then they're confused and I lose an international audience, so. At any rate, we'll keep pressing on here.

KS: Well, back to what we disclosed to Spitzer, once we got past the technology issues and how they could have pulled it off and did find the company that did do the software that was in play that day what they call Red Team Canada, Blue Team USA for the war game, we started looking a lot deeper into what happened at the Pentagon. We've had a lot of mixed results, mixed information about what could have possibly happened at the Pentagon. So one of the things that stuck out is there are two jet engine parts that are available in the photographs that were posted. You know people got them from different directions some of it was FEMA, some of it came from the news media. But there is two parts on there that I had seen before but I have been in a lot of shops because of what we do with composites and what we do in aerospace with nanotechnology. And I really couldn't put my finger on what it was that I was looking at because it was kind of beat up and smashed. So, we went back and started looking at just about every type of jet engine, all the way back to about 1952 or '53, as to what those could possibly be those components. And we finally found it.

Now, let me describe to you what it took to get this. Somebody has gone through the internet and done content blocking to where if you actually know the part number and you are actually looking for a diagram picture, you know like an auto-cad drawing or looking for a photograph of this particular item to prove that it was not a 757 that hit the Pentagon. We had to get the help of some people out of Russia and France and Germany and Japan to go around content blocks on the U.S. search engines and we finally found the photograph.

JS: And why is this significant?

KS: Why it is significant is that the jet engine rotor, this is called, one of the parts that is visible in the FEMA information, people have been trying to say that it's what's called an AB 211 or Honeywell APU, auxillary power unit from a 757. It is not an APU component. It is what is called a front compressor front hub assembly. And the giveaway is if you look at the edge of that disc, it has metal-like cleats on it. Those metal cleats are what the front fan is actually attached to, the fan blade. So what we are looking at here is an older jet engine technology and we've been trying to dig back in to find out what type of jets that is on. And we literally called the Pentagon one day and they claimed that all of those have been mothballed. You know they are all sitting out in [?] where they have been sold as scrap and cut up. That's not true. We now know where there is at least about a dozen of these things. We turned over the identity of that company, also where they've got them parked, and also this photograph as well. That's letter number five.

Letter number five that we gave him also does have photographs of the airplane, of the jet component, and once we finally figured out what it was, I had a guy who would actually go to a museum and take photos of that jet engine in a museum. There's the part.

JS: I may be a little slow today. It's Monday, Karl, but I'm failing to find out okay, so it's not a fan blade. I used to work on turbine engines, years ago, if it's not part of that APU, compressor unit.

KS: It's actually what they call the front compressor front hub assembly. It's actually where the shaft comes in.

JS: Right.

KS: And all around that shaft, you have this kind of a bib shaped nozzle thing and attached to that is where those fan blades are attached.

JS: Okay, but I'm still Karl, help me out here because I am still missing the point as to the significance of this.

KS: Well, the part that is laying there in the FEMA pictures outside the Pentagon is definitely not a 757 component.

JS: Gotch ya. Okay, now I understand. Now is there applications for that engine and the type of aircraft that it was on?

KS: Yes, in fact, there's two types. One of them, they use it on the, what's called an A3 Sky Warrior. And the A3 Sky Warrior has had, at last count, four different types of jets [engines] on them. But some of it is older technology going all the way back to the Allison J33, and Allison J71, which all of those are burned up years ago. It doesn't even pay to try to repair them anymore. And what this is is either a Pratt and Witney 57 or a Pratt and Witney JT8D. Now that is an engine that is primarily used on earlier versions of the 737. But it is also used on an A3 in it's current model, current version. And here is what this says, this is just a little footnote, underneath this picture we gave Spitzer it said your reliable source for turbine engine fan blade repairs is now providing total overhaul capability of JT8D fan hub assembly repair. And I'm not going to say the name of the company. Spitzer's office is looking into this. This is the only approved source to overhaul both blades and hub assemblies an FAA approved shop.

JS: So what was it that hit the Pentagon? Any guesses here?

KS: I think it was an A3 Sky Warrior.

JS: We'll take a break here and take your calls. 800-313-9443 and don't forget folks give us a call at 800-724-2719 and the book, "One Way Ticket to Crawford Texas, 832 pages, handsome cover on it, I must admit, it's ready right now. We'll be right back.

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JS: Our guest today, Karl Schwarz, author of the book, "One Way Ticket to Crawford Texas. Folks, if you want information that will, as I say, curl your nose hairs, the book itself is $24.95. It is probably about as many pages as you can have done in a paperback format without a forklift. It is 832 pages long. It's a bombastic book when you finally put it all together. That is available on the website <  http://www.rbnlive.com www.rbnlive.com. "One Way Ticket to Crawford Texas, just take a look at the top right of the page there. We have a blinking I don't know what you computer people call these things what do you call those things?

KS: Animated GIFs

JS: What is it Paul? A banner. [..] Anyway you can find it there. You can order by Paypal or you can call our office here at 800-724-2719. What other information, Karl, did Mr. Spitzer get from you?

KS: Well, he also got a photograph from inside the Pentagon showing a severely bashed-up jet engine. And I kept looking at this one part, trying to figure out what I was looking at. And it finally occurred to me that I was looking at a diffuser case. Diffuser cases are primarily an air balancing system that they use on turbo jets. And the top of the diffuser case that they use on the new type of fan jets, that go on the 777s, 767s, 757s is a different type of technology. So, we started digging into that part. We found the part. But we had to do it the same way. We had to come backdoor to get around what you would call content blocking. And content blocking on the internet is very easy. I mean they even know what the universal part numbers of these two parts are - this rotor head and also this diffuser case. I found one web site that had every component of that type of jet engine listed but there were no drawings and no photographs for these two components. They had been blocked out.

JS: The question I would have to ask, Karl, is where did they realize their screw-up? Because somebody had to have known that they put out information that doesn't jive with the original story, so they had to go in there and start cleaning up the web sites.

KS: Well, I have reason to believe that the clean-up process started even prior to 9/11 and here's why. I had another researcher working for almost a year, going to every secretary of states, office and looking in the years ,98 through current, at entities that are being filed tied to certain names. Okay? Either family names, corporate names or certain little buzz phrases like Homeland Security. Homeland Security didn't even exist, or even the need for it to speak of, until 9/11. And none of us heard the phrase, Homeland Security, until 9/11 and when they rushed out the Patriot Act, we found entities over in Delaware and in several other states that had rushed out about two weeks right before 9/11 and there's Homeland Security. And we started kind of questioning who was behind those. We can't get the incorporators or the organizers of those entities to tell who the owners are. That is going to take somebody like the Manhattan District Attorney or a grand jury or Elliot Spitzer, that has subpoena powers, to start putting the weight of the law down on these people.

JS: Karl, thinking back here, they focused mainly on the twin towers but not the airplanes themselves. Certainly, there was more lip service given to the twin towers than to the Pentagon. I'm sitting here and I'm thinking back, there aren't a whole lot of stories on those aircraft.

KS: No, there wasn't. Let me go into one other thing. We had a witness come forward about three months ago. You know the first time I was on your show, I told you that we actually met Bridas in 1999? We had two [?] out there and I've had them out there since 9/11 happened and only in the last 30 days did we figure out there was somebody at the other end of the line. One guy came forward here about a month ago who was with the architect, the project contract architect of what you call the contract administrators of the World Trade Center towers. And he went into work in 1989 and their entire office had been confiscated.

Now, the importance of that is this. They had been working for a year on a proposal to put up structural scaffolding, they were working with structural engineers, to come up with a scaffolding that could go a quarter of a mile in the sky, where they could take the world trade centers down a piece at a time, correct the asbestos but also correct a major design flaw that the world trade center had.

JS: Is this called galvanic corrosion, by any chance?

KS: Yes it is. And that's why I copied you on what I sent to Jimmy Walter because what they did and let's back up a minute. The reason that the Statue of Liberty had to be repaired they knew about galvanic corrosion way back when the Statue of Liberty was created. So, what they do, they put an asbestos pad between the copper and the iron skeleton of the Statue of Liberty. Over the years, the asbestos either rotted, fell out or it changed composition. It was actually dipped in a shellac, is what they call it. I don't know if shellac is the right phrase. But that was the separator between the copper skin and the iron skeleton. What had happened over a hundred years is the copper was touching or transmitting through to the iron and it was literally giving it the equivalent of osteoporosis. The statue was getting weak. It would collapse over time.

JS: Let me read to the folks exactly what galvanic corrosion is. It is in the information that you sent over to me. Galvanic corrosion, also called dissimilar metal corrosion, or wrongfully called electrolysis, refers to corrosion damaged induced when two dissimilar metals are coupled in a corrosive electrolyte. It occurs when two or more dissimilar metals are brought into electrical contact under water. When a galvanic couple forms, one of the metals in the couple becomes an anode and corrodes faster than it would all by itself. While the other becomes the cathode and corrodes slower that it would by itself. Either or both metals in the couple may not corrode by itself. In seawater, for example, by themselves, when contact with a dissimilar metal is made, however, the self corrosion rate will change.

Now this doesn't necessarily have to be in seawater.

KS: No, it can be in humidity and moisture of the air. I mean the Statue of Liberty proves that in a marine environment that the galvanic corrosion can happen in air. And you know the humidity level right there around WTC is not that different than it would be over around the Statue of Liberty.

JS: No, as a matter of fact, we took a cigarette-boat ride around the whole area during the Republican National Convention. And I've got to tell you Karl, going up to the Statue of Liberty and having gun boats run at you you know with 50 Cals mounted on their bow is a little unnerving. But we went all through that area. The World Trade Center, where that would have stood, the Statue of Liberty, all through those waterways. So you are correct. The environment that the Trade Tower was in was not that dissimilar than the one that the Statue of Liberty is in.

KS: Right, even though it is a little bit into downtown, you still have that, you know that humidity is humidity. What happens is when you bring aluminum, the exterior panels of the World Trade Center, in contact with the superstructure, it's the superstructure that corrodes faster. And then basically and over time, destroys the structural integrity of that building. And what I've been trying to tell people just so they can kind of get a mental picture of what was happening there. It basically was causing something akin to osteoporosis over time - the life cycle and the life span of that building was being shortened by the day. They knew about that in 1988 and ,89. And they had already come up with a price tag that exceeded $5 billion to take them down and put them back.

JS: Isn't that ironic that the insurance, I think it was just around that figure 5 to 7 billion dollars on the insurance policy for the world trade center.

KS: Yeah, and we thought that was odd. Now, another trail that we put out there, since I already knew about Bridas, and we figured this would either come out of the eastern part of the United States or out of Europe, and we did not know, we didn't have a clue one until about a year ago that we had hit pay dirt on a trail. There was a flight that left Kosovo within six to eight hours after 9/11, headed for the Caspian Basin. And what we had done is put out feelers as to who could have been on that flight. We finally found the guy. We had a representative of that family come forward and fill us in on the details. He evidently had talked to his wife, who is now a widow - he's no longer with us, his father and also a pastor. He was on a payoff flight that happened within six to eight hours after 9/11. It flew to the Caspian. Large boxes of money were loaded off of the plane and onto helicopters and it was flown into the northern part of Afghanistan. And he was real concerned for his safety. He was killed in Iraq on September 22nd of this year.

JS: So, if they had a problem, would this explain and I guess this is a two-part question. Would it explain why the World Trade Center collapsed the way that it did? And the second part of that question, would they still need explosives to make sure that thing pan-caked all the way to the ground?

KS: I would say yes to both. There was enough heat up there to commence the structural failures but had they not assured that it was taken out successfully coming down, chances are you would have hit a point and then fifty floors topple over sideways.

JS: And that's what the thing was starting to do. You remember seeing the repeated film clips of this?

KS: Yes. One part of the tower did try to go to the side. It wound up just burying the street. Yeah, it did not come straight down. But the thing that we've been looking at is that this is synthetic. This is all created to change policy. I mean I keep asking myself and I've asked a lot of people. You know, think back to September the 10th, 2001, what could George Bush have possibly said to this country to justify use of force against Afghanistan?

JS: The only thing I can think of would be the use of the poppy fields over there but gee since our invasion, Karl, they've got bumper crops.

KS: Yeah, they do, they have bumper crops. In fact, they are now at all time record producing levels from what I've been reading.

JS: There is something to that. I'm glad I have you on the air today because this just hit the papers the other day from the New York Times, they,re saying that poppy spraying baffles Afghanistan. "Farmers and tribal leaders of an Eastern Afghan village of Nimla, confirmed statements by the Afghan government that the unidentified planes have been spraying opium poppy fields with toxic chemicals. More than a month ago, a dark plane rattled windows through the night as it flew back and forth spraying a chemical on houses, orchards, fields. According to villagers, poppy seedlings will now die.

"Hajji Kamaluddin Popalzai, the village chief, said the government had told them to stop growing poppies, but they were expecting some assistance to grow alternative crops first. "Just coming and spraying, he says "that's unfair." "The spraying is a mystery, apparently even to the Afghan government. Last week, President Hamid Karzai called in the ambassadors of Britain and the United States, the two main donors to anti-narcotic efforts in Afghanistan to explain the spraying to the province. Karzai's spokesman, Jawed Ludin said the Afghan government wasn't convince that all the other measures to combat narcotics had been exhausted and was worried about the impact the chemicals might have on people and legitimate crops. Both nations deny being involved. He said, "I can say categorically that the U.S. has not done it. And the U.S. has not contracted or subcontracted anyone to do it, according to the U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, adding that they didn't know who had done it."

KS: (laughs) This is turning into a comedy.

JS: It is because we go in there and the Taliban, these evil people over there, are the ones who wanted the poppy fields shut down.

KS: Right

JS: So we go in there, fire these people up, put a puppet regime in there, temporary puppet regime, immediately after that and it didn't take long, Karl, all of sudden they were growing so many poppies that they actually started to depress their own market. So now we learn that somebody is in there spraying the stuff but who would be interested in doing something like that?

KS: Iran or Russia, maybe?

JS: Could be. Could be.

KS: What a vicious web that they weave. It's amazing. Now, one more article that we,re doing that had to do with that guy's death over there and the fact that he was on that flight. I mean he told his family that. So we told Spitzer how to track those folks down. We gave them the family name, where they lived and who this contact person was. I wasn't contacted by his widow. I was contacted by a co-worker that works with her and has been helping her through this period of time. I asked them point blank who this person worked for when he got killed over in Iraq. He works for Black Water, USA. He was moved from the UN Mission in Kosovo - UNMIK is what they call it - a Special Operations Group, down to security with Black Water, USA, and they were providing security for one of the IED companies, you know, trying to destroy the munitions. And he was hit by an RPG while going to work one day. So, there is one witness but he wasn't the only person on the plane. He told other people that there were 15 to 18 people on the plane.

JS: You know what bothers me here, we,re talking about New York, the State's Attorney General. We have John Ashcroft bailing and he can't get out of Washington, DC fast enough. But I was not necessarily puzzled, but I assumed that the new head of Homeland Security was going to be somebody like maybe Asa Hutchinson, but probably Thomas Kean, the former New Jersey governor. But, what did they do, they took Bernard Kerik, he's the senior advisor to American Presidential Envoy in Iraq. Oh, and he was also the former New York City police commissioner.

KS: Yeah. What I think is interesting if that architect, what he told me is completely on target and the galvanic corrosion was in fact there, they knew those buildings were going to have to come down long before anybody thought they would. That right there would entail a fairly significant cover-up at the Port Authority and I think Spitzer ought to look into that.

JS: Well, what if Spitzer is part of the cover-up?

KS: That would have a problem and I can only think of one possible solution for that and I'll describe it when we get back.

JS: Alright. We'll take a break here and my guest today is Karl Schwarz, author of "One Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, which is now available at 800-724-2719. You really need to get this book. We'll be right back.

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JS: Alright, ladies and gentlemen. We,re back and we'll finish out this short segment with Karl Schwarz, author of "One Way Ticket to Crawford Texas. Anything else in the last couple of minutes here, Karl?

KS: Yes, the only other thing we can possibly see if we can't get the prosecuting attorney in Arlington County, Virginia or Manhattan or Spitzer to do anything about this, is going to be utilizing some corporate finance sources I have. We have been very successful here in the last two weeks in getting our corporate finance lined up. And we requested an over-funding because of the collateral source we have which is hard gold. I mean it's just the real stuff. And they are going to over-fund at least 50 million dollars and they've given me permission, if I can get the attorneys to do it, to actually file a citizens lawsuit against the United States government. That is the only other alternative that I see if you can't get law enforcement to do anything you know, just take it straight and head for the ports.

JS: The problem with the courts is that you are walking into a federal court with this and they have suppressed so many lawsuits so far.

KS: Yeah, you can definitely wind up with the wrong judge. They are going to have a hard time making a lot of this go away and I think the American people are going to need to understand to what extent we've all been lied to. I mean I'm getting about 500 emails a day. Since Saturday when this first, on Online Journal, when "Pop Goes Bush Mythology Bubble hit, I've had close to 1500 emails in less than three days just thanking me for writing it and laying it all out so people can understand it. It's a situation with me, John, if I can't straighten this nonsense out, I want to live someplace else. You know this place is turning into a zoo run by a 4-star clown.

JS: The problem is, Karl, there is no sense in running because you are only going die tired. There is no place really on this planet unless you want to go down to Balize or Honduras where the retired spooks and kooks and the people who don't want to be seen or heard from again on planet earth are down there eating bananas under some tree somewhere. Myself, Karl, I'm in here for the fight. I'm here for the long haul because once this country winks out, it's lights out for the rest of the planet. [crosstalk]

KS: It is and like I said, the only other way I know to do it if you can't get Spitzer to do his job, if you can't get the prosecutors to do their jobs, the only other choice is to take them on straight on and just file a lawsuit on behalf of every American citizen against this government. And just take them on in what would be a very public brawl. I don't see any other way to do it.

JS: Well, and again, public brawl, but we are dealing with a controlled media. So this thing has got to be so bombastic that, in fact, it forces them to cover the issue.

KS: Well, one of the things we may do out of some of that 50 million is turn up the volume on what I call the alternative media. You know, folks like you and Maria Heller and Online Journal. I mean if we can't get C-Span and Washington Post to do their job, go ahead and turn up the volume on another one.

JS: Well, I have a simple solution on that one is we buy our own radio stations, [ ] to the network, put them in the top twenty markets around the country and you can touch millions and millions and millions of people.

KS: That sounds like a plan to me.

JS: Sounds like one to me, also. Karl, thank you. I appreciate it very much. Keep me posted on Sibel. I know she's got that press conference Thursday.

KS: I'll do it.

JS: So, keep an ear to the ground and I'll bring you both back up.

KS: Okay, listen, you have a good evening.

JS: Thank you very much. I appreciate it.


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MORE KARL SCHWARTZ

C.E.O.'s 9-11 book! & Pop goes Bush mythology bubble, Part 1: The 9-11 Omission Commission
author: researcher

1. "the first of a six-part series of articles.": Interesting views from a "conservative Republican", Karl W. B. Schwarz, CEO Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC and I-nets Security Systems, a designer of intelligence and communications UAV systems, who has come to the conclusion that he was duped about Bush and Cheney--and about 9-11. It always pays to address critique from people who think they are "rightists attacking leftists" by tossing out another "rightist" who thinks that that 9-11 was an inside job, a covert agenda, and has come to the hot conclusion that the head of his Republican Party is a traitor to the United States--and he wants to take it back.

2. It covers some overlapping information, though article has more information than I even found out about the 9-11 Commission--even though I read Ruppert's book Crossing the Rubicon! Italian Dictator Mussolini's definition of fascism as a corporate state comes immediately to mind when reading this guy's background review of, in his phrase, the "9-11 Omission Commission".

3. 9-11 BOOK, FROM A C.E.O! "In writing my book One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, I not only analyzed 9-11, Afghanistan, Iraq, defense spending, Homeland Security spending, flaws in national security, the intentional weakening of the U.S. dollar and use of terrorism to drive up the price of oil and gasoline, the absence of "rule of law" if Bush buddies or Clinton buddies were being bad actors, but I also investigated the talking heads they put before us to spin their web of lies."

4. If the U.S. had more patriotic CEOs that actually were as politically democratic as this guy (instead of transnational fascist), we might be headed in the correct direction. I wish all rightists and leftists would stop and think about this way he understands patriotism: "I am an American first and second a Conservative Republican [nice way to phrase that] that has no intentions of voting for Bush - Cheney 2004. After having given that matter a lot of thought, a lot of soul searching, I have come to the conclusion that Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and the band of Neocons that they have inserted into key positions within our government do not deserve my support, my loyalty, my respect or my vote. I believe that Americans need to be an informed electorate and what is disclosed in this book is to achieve that end."

Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble

Part 1: The 9-11 Commission

By Karl W. B. Schwarz
Online Journal Contributing Writer

FIRST OF THE SERIES POSTED HERE:
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305263.shtml

so in case demolition failed, would have exact $ to take it down 11.Dec.2004 06:19

now Silverstein just greedy, getting a windfall

...They knew about that in 1988 and ,89. And they had already come up with a price tag that exceeded $5 billion to take them down and put them back.

JS: Isn't that ironic that the insurance, I think it was just around that figure 5 to 7 billion dollars on the insurance policy for the world trade center.

KS: Yeah, and we thought that was odd.


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Silverstein admits PRE-RIGGING WTC7 to "pull it" on 9-11; & 1 BLOCK OVER, collects insurance meant as potential backup plan to take down failed demolitions, now it's just a windfall reward for a nice terror operation
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305694.shtml

Interesting 11.Dec.2004 07:04

ABBK?

Manipulate the dollar? The federal reserve and the Bernanke printing press in overtime, nah...M3(money supply) can't be going up because of deliberate devaluation of the dollar.

Great post. 11.Dec.2004 08:28

Tony Blair's dog

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