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Pacific Green Party Registration Statistics

Here are the numbers from a recent party update
As of Sept. 30, 2004 (the last date of published totals), the PGP stood at 13,977 registrants. By comparison, the Libertarian Party has 16,236 registrants. Back in January we almost caught and passed the Libertarian Party. Now we are 2,260 registrants short of being the 3rd largest party in Oregon.

Much of the drop can be attributed to Greens registering Democrat so they could vote for Kucinich. I'm sure the CounterPunch / Nader Campaign attacks also led to some members leaving the party and going independent.

For some historical perspective, here are some of our registration totals for a few months in 2004:
January = 14,575
April= 13,683 (a loss of 892)
July= 13,557 (a loss from January of 1018 and a loss from April of 126)
August= 13,750 (a loss from January of 825 and a gain from July of 193)
September= 13,977 (a loss from January of 598 and a gain from August of 227)

If you beleive in the Green Party then please support the Green Party by registering Pacific Green. You might also consider a donation. The Green Party is not supported by corporations. We only get our support from our members.

Vote Green. Be Green. Register Green. Give Green.

homepage: homepage: http://www.pacificgreens.org
phone: phone: 503-235-0300

coalition 02.Dec.2004 16:36

dude

coalitin with other 3rd party would be a good use of power. compromise has some value as a tactic.

poor strategy 02.Dec.2004 16:48

independent

Attacking those who have left by implying that they are being misled will not attract people. Or are you suggesting that the "CounterPunch / Nader Campaign attacks" were accurate and those intelligent people that have left should consider returning? A lot of people left because they disagreed with the Green Party strategy. Those are intelligent people and you should consider not alienating them if you really want to get more members. Personally, I have never registered with a political party and never will. This election I favored both Badnarik and Nader over Cobb. The best thing I've seen from the Green Party is the partnering of the LP and GP and the work done by their candidates since the election. I agree with dude that a coalition might be a better path. Competing with libertarians seems like a hollow pursuit to me. It would be better to build a coalition platform that greens, libertarians, independents, and others could support. Give it some thought.

she's green... 02.Dec.2004 17:38

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I'm Still Waiting... 03.Dec.2004 08:38

alsis38 alsis35@yahoo.com

...for some explanation of the 2000 "strategy" of Cobb that makes sense to me. I'm still waiting for some sign that the Green Party brass intends to rethink this strategy. What I've seen so far from you and other GP stalwarts, Brian, is at best evasions and at worst, implications that I and other skeptics just aren't smart/involved enough to understand The Truth[tm] like you IMPORTANT folk do. Oh, and let's not forget the pointless babbling about Counterpunch obviously being a front for the CIA. [rolleyes]

Well, that may make you all feel terrific and proud of yourselves, but it probably won't do shit to build your party. It seems to me that the official stated goal of the Green Party is to help all in need, not just to enrich and to provide a social club for those who have the time and resources to eat, breathe and sleep activist politics.

If you want the attention of the unwashed, unhip rabble like me, or if you don't want it but need it anyway, perhaps you'd like to cut out the propagandizing and speak TO us, not down to us, for a change.

a38 got some issues to work through! 04.Dec.2004 08:30

sheesh

Ignore a...38 or whatever. I see nothing except self-hate there.

always remember: Greens face disinfo/fraud by CIA dirty tricks party 04.Dec.2004 10:04

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CIA Exports Election Fraud To Belgium in 2003, ousts Green Party 02.Dec.2004 01:55
more link

US Government Exports Election Fraud To Belgium
By Thomas Deflo, Online Journal, 12-1-2004


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On May 18, 2003, the Belgian, Flemish Green Party by the name of Agalev (now Groen!) got crushed in the Belgian elections. ... It is only now that I dare to write down my testimony, because I was harassed and intimidated for over a year.

In Belgium, the whole voting chain, by royal law, is controlled by the Ministry of Interior. Under the veil of 'security,' the counting of the votes is totally opaque to external, parliamentary oversight. I witnessed this personally as an official delegate for the Green Party during election day in the municipality of Schaerbeek. Party delegates were not allowed to witness the tally: it was strictly forbidden to enter the rooms where the counting process occurred. Party members simply had to wait for a sheet of paper with the supposed results to be handed over to them. Present administrators, not the least the sitting election judge, were as far from neutral as possible, chanting victory as they 'read' the results for their preferred party. I was dumbfounded to see how what were clearly party stooges were in charge of counting the votes. Fortunately, there is one last hope for a party witness to have some impact on the voting system: he can write down his remarks in an official document, which can then be used by the party, if wanted, to file a protest and demand a recount. This official document is the so-called 'Proces Verbal'. At the end of the day, however - and here, the suspicion was obvious - the sitting judge refused to prepare the document. This was in clear violation with the proper election procedure.

All polls had indicated a share of around 8% of votes for the Green Party. In Belgium, a party is not allowed to stay in Parliament if it drops under 5%. A week later elections were held and miraculously Agalev got exactly 4.9%. The Green Party had to leave the Parliament and the government.

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On May 18, 2003, the Belgian, Flemish Green Party by the name of Agalev (now Groen!) got crushed in the Belgian elections. The ecological party supposedly lost two thirds of its electorate and all its seats in the federal Parliament. In reality, the election was a fraud, performed on foreign soil by the CIA with the help of the complicit Belgian State Security. A very successful coup.

It is only now that I dare to write down my testimony, because I was harassed and intimidated for over a year.

The reason for the coup's success lay in its long preparation. During the preceding years, Green Party members were criticized and ridiculed in the majority of media outlets, some falsely accused of judicial wrongdoings. This propaganda was orchestrated, as the CIA has done in so many other coups around the world. The source of this propaganda evidently came from the Belgian CIA-linked State Security, under the direction of Koen Dassen, and was produced by the US embassy.

This relentless attempt to skew the public mind set, also known as psy-ops, slowly started paying off. The rather gullible Belgian people absorbed the negative portraying of the ecological party, with no clue as to the propaganda's real origin nor to its eventual purpose: to make a total defeat at the election credible. Many media corporations lost all sense of objectivity and cooperated in order to effectively destroy the Green Party's public image.

The election fraud was next prepared by a fraudulent poll in an allied newspaper, exactly one week before voting day. All polls had indicated a share of around 8% of votes for the Green Party. The fraudulent poll indicated less than 5%. In Belgium, a party is not allowed to stay in Parliament if it drops under 5%. A week later elections were held and miraculously Agalev got exactly 4.9%. The Green Party had to leave the Parliament and the government. This signified the end of a progressive, left-wing party in Flemish politics.

Fundamental to a soft coup d'etat, of course, is the vote fraud itself.

Just like in the U.S., Belgians vote mainly by way of touch screen machines.

The system is transparently prone to fraud. The voters receive magnetic cards which are inserted in the voting machine slot. The cards then register the votes, and must be retracted from the machine to be brought back to the local booth computer, swallowing all cards and supposedly adding up their results on a floppy disk. Upon closure of the voting bureau, all floppy disks from all voting stations are then centralized in the local city hall and processed behind closed curtains.

In Belgium, the whole voting chain, by royal law, is controlled by the Ministry of Interior. Under the veil of 'security,' the counting of the votes is totally opaque to external, parliamentary oversight. I witnessed this personally as an official delegate for the Green Party during election day in the municipality of Schaerbeek. Party delegates were not allowed to witness the tally: it was strictly forbidden to enter the rooms where the counting process occurred. Party members simply had to wait for a sheet of paper with the supposed results to be handed over to them. Present administrators, not the least the sitting election judge, were as far from neutral as possible, chanting victory as they 'read' the results for their preferred party. I was dumbfounded to see how what were clearly party stooges were in charge of counting the votes.

Fortunately, there is one last hope for a party witness to have some impact on the voting system: he can write down his remarks in an official document, which can then be used by the party, if wanted, to file a protest and demand a recount. This official document is the so-called 'Proces Verbal'. At the end of the day, however - and here, the suspicion was obvious - the sitting judge refused to prepare the document. This was in clear violation with the proper election procedure.

 http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/120104Deflo/120104deflo.html

Greens and Libertarians are the last bastions of actual democracy in the United States, particularly with the fake Democrats finally attempting to slough off any pretense of leftism (in their recent attacks on Michael Moore), as the Democrats want to turn themselves into RepublicanLite.

related:

Ukraine: US Orwellian "well planned drama" of IMF/CIA/NED coup as "grassroots democracy"
author: comparativist
Ukraine, perfection of Orwellian "well planned drama" media perception around IMF/CIA/NED coup as a "grass roots democratic reform"; how it's done --- "Among the numerous Western foundations, the [Orwellian named] National Endowment for Democracy (NED), although not officially part of the CIA, performs an important intelligence function in shaping party politics in
the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe and around the World. [NED additionally involved in funding of Venezuelan coup against Chavez.] NED was created in 1983, when the CIA was being accused of covertly
bribing politicians and setting up phony civil society front organizations. According to Allen Weinstein, who was responsible for establishing the NED during the Reagan Administration: "A lot of what we [NED] do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA." (Washington Post, Sept. 21, 1991). --- "Pora's posters plastered all over Ukraine DEPICT A JACKBOOT crushing a beetle, an allegory of what Pora wants to do to its opponents. It was like this during Nazi-occupied Ukraine,...Nobody in the West has said anything against these posters. Pora continues to be presented [by CNN] as an innocent band of students having fun. But it is an organization created and financed by Washington, as were sister organizations in Serbia and Georgia, Otpor and Kmara." --- "It is claimed that officially the US government spent US$41 million to fund the year-long operation to get rid of Milosevich from October 1999. In Ukraine, the figure is said to be about $14 million so far."
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/304981.shtml

Well, There You Are 04.Dec.2004 11:51

alsis38 alsis35@yahoo.com

"sheesh" has spoken. Too bad none of the Green hacks found out about my "self-hatred" (ie-- My daring to have my own mind) before they cashed my contribution checks. I'm sure if they had but known, they would never have wanted to dirty their righteous paws with my filthy ill-gotten dollars. Would you, "sheesh" ? :p Ah, well. I guess it's official. Why wait for the New Year ? I'm in the market for a new political affiliation. Interested parties (pun intended) know where to find me.